Hello to the great people at xda..
Sorry for being a noob about it but i have certain questions about my c6902. First off my Z1 is rooted with the build number .157 with the stock os and the stock recovery. As of now i have been getting all OTAs without a problem. However, i would like to know what would happen if i install a custom recovery. Will it stop the OTAs? If yes, then which OTAs will it stop? Will it stop just the system OTAs or the application OTAs as well like walkman album etc.? Or will i just be able to see the available updates but would never be able to install them? And how can i revert back to the stock recovery? Would it make everything just as the way it was before with no strings attached? Sorry again for such a basic though as i couldn't find an answer anywhere else. Thanks a ton!
ronnie141 said:
Hello to the great people at xda..
Sorry for being a noob about it but i have certain questions about my c6902. First off my Z1 is rooted with the build number .157 with the stock os and the stock recovery. As of now i have been getting all OTAs without a problem. However, i would like to know what would happen if i install a custom recovery. Will it stop the OTAs? If yes, then which OTAs will it stop? Will it stop just the system OTAs or the application OTAs as well like walkman album etc.? Or will i just be able to see the available updates but would never be able to install them? And how can i revert back to the stock recovery? Would it make everything just as the way it was before with no strings attached? Sorry again for such a basic though as i couldn't find an answer anywhere else. Thanks a ton!
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if your bootloader stays locked, you CAN recieve OTA updates, but if you rooted with towelroot (i expect that because your an .157, like me ) you wont be able to apply system OTA updates cause they can not be verified. but OTA updates for Walkman or other apps will work.
Only the system updates are broken with the towelroot method. but of course you can install a custom recovery to revert to stock recovery, just flash the ftf with flashtool again and you have your stock recovery back (but make shure to untick the wipe boxes in flashtool
mo120697 said:
if your bootloader stays locked, you CAN recieve OTA updates, but if you rooted with towelroot (i expect that because your an .157, like me ) you wont be able to apply system OTA updates cause they can not be verified. but OTA updates for Walkman or other apps will work.
Only the system updates are broken with the towelroot method. but of course you can install a custom recovery to revert to stock recovery, just flash the ftf with flashtool again and you have your stock recovery back (but make shure to untick the wipe boxes in flashtool
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Thanks a lot for the info . So I get what you're saying and 'tis true that I'm rooted with towel root. So that means that I won't be able to install system OTAs and that's ok. Also you already have been very helpful but would you be kind enough to please send me a link for the stock recovery's ftf? Have you successfully tried doing the same on 157?
ronnie141 said:
Thanks a lot for the info . So I get what you're saying and 'tis true that I'm rooted with towel root. So that means that I won't be able to install system OTAs and that's ok. Also you already have been very helpful but would you be kind enough to please send me a link for the stock recovery's ftf? Have you successfully tried doing the same on 157?
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There isnt a "recovery ftf", you have to flash the whole ftf all over it again and than you have stock recovery back
and yes i did the same on .157, i flashed this Baltic version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_d8uWGbkaetRjFOYkZib0Z1Y1k/view?usp=sharing the baltic version works fine for me too, im from germany but i guess it should work (at least for european users) if you are not from europe, just flash .108 or .133 and update and root
mo120697 said:
There isnt a "recovery ftf", you have to flash the whole ftf all over it again and than you have stock recovery back
and yes i did the same on .157, i flashed this Baltic version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_d8uWGbkaetRjFOYkZib0Z1Y1k/view?usp=sharing the baltic version works fine for me too, im from germany but i guess it should work (at least for european users) if you are not from europe, just flash .108 or .133 and update and root
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Ok.. But what if I do a full system repair using the pc companion? Would it do the same thing? Also, would pc companion have any problems detecting or repairing the phone with the custom recovery installed?
ronnie141 said:
Ok.. But what if I do a full system repair using the pc companion? Would it do the same thing? Also, would pc companion have any problems detecting or repairing the phone with the custom recovery installed?
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Pc companion works too, but the system repair from pc -c will wipe your data! So all your data is lost.
With flashtool youcan decide if you want to keep your data or to do to a wipe
mo120697 said:
Pc companion works too, but the system repair from pc -c will wipe your data! So all your data is lost.
With flashtool youcan decide if you want to keep your data or to do to a wipe
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Oh thank-you so so much. You have been a great help
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Hello community,
this is my first post here so i hope, i do it right
Please excuse my english, it is not perfect.
I have a xperia z with Android 4.2.2 (10.3.A.0.423) . The bootloader is unlocked, cwm/twrp dualboot is installed, also the doomlord customkernel v19 is in use, root-access is available.
Is it possible to update to official stock firmware 4.3 (10.4.1.B.0.101) using the PC-Companion without bricking my phone? Root-Access and cwm and so on would be lost as i assume. This would be ok for me.
I really would like to do it that way. I think, as an alternative, i could flash the 4.3 stock rom using cwm? Going this way, will my data and all settings be lost?
Updating via OTA is not a good idea i think.
Thanks for advise
Greetings
ShellingFord
Well, you cannot update via PC companion, Sony Update Service or OTA, as your bootloader is unlocked.
So, that leaves updating via Flashtool or flashing a prerooted rom from the development section.
The cleanest way would be via Flashtool, then simply flash a custom kernel again and root.
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And if im going to flash the stock-kernel which belongs my current firmware and then relock the bootloader?
If the bootloader is relocked, i can't flash a kernel or something else anymore right?
EDIT: If I decide to flash a rom will my data be lost or is it like im doing an normal update?
Is it possible to go back to stock with everything?
So much questions Sorry, I don't know that much, please help
Can anyone help?
Yes, if you relock the bootloader, you should be able to update via the normal methods (at least via PC companion, unsure about OTA). A locked bootloader means you cannot use custom kernels.
If you flash with Flashtool, you can choose not to wipe your data.
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kingvortex said:
Yes, if you relock the bootloader, you should be able to update via the normal methods (at least via PC companion, unsure about OTA). A locked bootloader means you cannot use custom kernels.
If you flash with Flashtool, you can choose not to wipe your data.
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I assume, it would be the best to flash the original kernel before i lock the bootloader?
After relocking the bootloader and installing the update via PC-Companion, will the kernel be the "original" kernel and will cwm/twrp be still there or not?
Yes, flash a stock kernel before locking the bootloader. If you don't, you will soft brick your phone.
After updating, you will have a stock kernel and your custom recovery will be gone as well as root.
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Thanks for the help so far. :good: I will try it and keep you informed.
ShellingFord91 said:
Thanks for the help so far. :good: I will try it and keep you informed.
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So everything worked fine. I relocked the bootloader via flashtool and installed the firmware using PC-Companion. My Xperia Z is now totally "stocked"
Thank you very much for your help
You're welcome. Glad to help.
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I have Xperia Z1 UB with CWM installed kitkat .681
I got OTA update to .757 and I want it so much because of the known sound issue
It's just about 10 MB and it's perfect for me due to my slow connection.. I can't download any FTF or flashed zip (about 950 MB)
what I have to do to install the OTA update successfully ??
delete the CWM and relock my phone ?? any solution ??
thank u
I dont know how many times i have to say this, or if you did not read the warning on the sony website when you unlocked
but do not excuse the caps lock, i am doing it on purpose
DO NOT ACCEPT OTA UPDATES WITH AN UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER
gregbradley said:
I dont know how many times i have to say this, or if you did not read the warning on the sony website when you unlocked
but do not excuse the caps lock, i am doing it on purpose
DO NOT ACCEPT OTA UPDATES WITH AN UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER
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absolutely man I'm not going to update my xperia with UB.. so I want to relock it and a way to uninstall CWM then I will update as stock kernel
why not just install one of the pre rooted stock roms from the development section.
Just flash it..
absolutely no need to relock, flash a stock kernel or anything...
all you will have to do is flash back your choice of custom kernel afterwards.
gregbradley said:
why not just install one of the pre rooted stock roms from the development section.
Just flash it..
absolutely no need to relock, flash a stock kernel or anything...
all you will have to do is flash back your choice of custom kernel afterwards.
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I would like to download pre rooted rom but I don't have high speed internet connection to download about 1 GB file
Hi guys,
I've rooted my Z1, installed CWM and unlocked my bootloader (TA-backup present). Everything seems fine.
Exept for the fact that I cannot find a custom rom with the features i specifically want (as close to stock as possible, without bloatware, but with all the Sony Camera features) and therefore I would like to go back to the original 757 firmware that I had before I rooted my phone,
I do want to keep my CWM recovery, and need root acces (ie SuperSU)
I'm lookin for the Original Sony 4.4.2 757 rom which i can flash through CWM
Can anyone please help me?
Regards,
Tiemen
Edit: I see that theres a new 4.4.4 firmware. If possible I would like the stock rom for this one.
Tiemen86 said:
Hi guys,
I've rooted my Z1, installed CWM and unlocked my bootloader (TA-backup present). Everything seems fine.
Exept for the fact that I cannot find a custom rom with the features i specifically want (as close to stock as possible, without bloatware, but with all the Sony Camera features) and therefore I would like to go back to the original 757 firmware that I had before I rooted my phone,
I do want to keep my CWM recovery, and need root acces (ie SuperSU)
I'm lookin for the Original Sony 4.4.2 757 rom which i can flash through CWM
Can anyone please help me?
Regards,
Tiemen
Edit: I see that theres a new 4.4.4 firmware. If possible I would like the stock rom for this one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469191&page=145#1450
Here's 14.4.A.0.108 Global LTE
SaeedFazlollahzadeh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469191&page=145#1450
Here's 14.4.A.0.108 Global LTE
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Thanks for your reply!
I'm not familiar with FTF files. I believe I need the flashtool for that, but I have no experience with it.
Will I lose CWM and Root functionality?
Tiemen86 said:
Thanks for your reply!
I'm not familiar with FTF files. I believe I need the flashtool for that, but I have no experience with it.
Will I lose CWM and Root functionality?
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Certainly you will lose both root access and CWM when you flash
Search 'how to flash by Flash Tools' in your own language
Be warned that you will also all stuffs which are in Internal Memory, like files, messages, photos, movies, etc
Take a backup
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Download the 4.4.4 stock firmware (FTF file) and flash via Flashtool. Ensure that you untick the Wipe data option in Flashtool, before you flash. This way, your user data will be intact after the flashing. And yes, you'll need to reroot (can use this tool) and install recovery again.
Thanks for your info!
I will start reading about the flashtool and will try asap.
Lets hope I won't get an expensive paper weight :silly:
If I want to go to full stock again (ie Relock Bootloader and no root), Do I need to flash FTF, then restore TA-partitions and I'm all done? Or do I need to root it before I can restore TA?
Regards,
Tiemen
Tiemen86 said:
Thanks for your info!
I will start reading about the flashtool and will try asap.
Lets hope I won't get an expensive paper weight :silly:
If I want to go to full stock again (ie Relock Bootloader and no root), Do I need to flash FTF, then restore TA-partitions and I'm all done? Or do I need to root it before I can restore TA?
Regards,
Tiemen
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You'll need root before you can use the Backup-TA tool to restore. Do read the FAQ of the thread for the tool.
Hi guys,
I managed to install the original 108 fw through FlashTool.
Also using the root tool suggested I got my root access back!
Thank you guys for your support!
Now It's exactly to my liking!
Regards,
Tiemen
I tried to install OTA update for my Xperia ZR.
The update is downloaded when i try to intall..the install starts but will not proceed.
The phone will restart.I tried it several times but no progress.
I had my phone rooted with towelroot without any recovery.
I used supersu,greenify,disable service,Xposed,Titanium Backup to remove bloatwares.
Now i dont know what yo do.
I used Universal Unroot to unroot before the installation.
Need urgent help.
Any solution in appreciated.
use flashtool to flash stock 4.4.2.
Dont root or remove anything
Then try to update to 4.4.4
20B
sourabhp said:
use flashtool to flash stock 4.4.2.
Dont root or remove anything
Then try to update to 4.4.4
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will i need to wipe all my data??
vaisakhcr7 said:
will i need to wipe all my data??
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yes while flashing everything will be wiped. so I hope u have backup of contacts messages etc
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Can i flash 4.4.4 stock ftf??
vaisakhcr7 said:
Can i flash 4.4.4 stock ftf??
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if u have then go ahead. also tell me where did u get it? is it for c5502 customized indian version?
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Can i repair with Sony PC Companion to fix the issue??
Or can i update with PCC??
vaisakhcr7 said:
I tried to install OTA update for my Xperia ZR.
The update is downloaded when i try to intall..the install starts but will not proceed.
I used supersu,greenify,disable service,Xposed,Titanium Backup to remove bloatwares.
Now i dont know what yo do.
I used Universal Unroot to unroot before the installation.
Need urgent help.
Any solution in appreciated.
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removing the bloatware from the system is the reason why it doesn't work! The updater recognizes the missing files and aborts the update, so the only way to get the Ota update is to bring the removed apps and files back!
Confused my phone just updated to 14.4.A.0.157????
Where is lollipop?
Phone is rooted
maids said:
Confused my phone just updated to 14.4.A.0.157????
Where is lollipop?
Phone is rooted
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What was it on prior to the update?
maids said:
Confused my phone just updated to 14.4.A.0.157????
Where is lollipop?
Phone is rooted
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the update depends on region. try to download FTF and flash it via flashtool > http://www.flashtool.net/downloads.php
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the update depends on region. try to download FTF and flash it via flashtool > http://www.flashtool.net/downloads.php
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I think the version was the same.
Now my phone is not rooted and I need help to re root.
I tried towelroot but it says the phone isnt currently supported
Can someone send me some instructions please
maids said:
Confused my phone just updated to 14.4.A.0.157????
Where is lollipop?
Phone is rooted
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my phone was rooted and had cwm recovery. The OTA failed twice . Then I unrooted the phone and did a wipe. After that, I was able to install lollipop
sruba209 said:
my phone was rooted and had cwm recovery. The OTA failed twice . Then I unrooted the phone and did a wipe. After that, I was able to install lollipop
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OTA will always fail when you're rooted, as signature checks will fail. You need to flash a pre-rooted 157 after wiping system and caches (not data).
maids said:
I think the version was the same.
Now my phone is not rooted and I need help to re root.
I tried towelroot but it says the phone isnt currently supported
Can someone send me some instructions please
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Install a non-rooted, fresh copy of 157. Close Sony Updater tool(s).
Flash the 108 kernel using Flashtool. Close Flashtool.
Root using XperiaRoot. Close XperiaRoot.
Flash the 157 kernel using Flashtool. Close Flashtool.
Install XZDR Dual Recovery, and use TWRP from now on. CWM is old and should be killed with fire.
Send me $50 and a large pepperoni pizza.
Files are available here.
maids said:
I think the version was the same.
Now my phone is not rooted and I need help to re root.
I tried towelroot but it says the phone isnt currently supported
Can someone send me some instructions please
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are you already in the Lollipop? or rather, have you installed lollipop and you want to root it?
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are you already in the Lollipop? or rather, have you installed lollipop and you want to root it?
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re done root now phone is ok back to 14.4.A.0.157 with unlocked bootloader.
Hopefully that will stop over the air update.
Now looking for rooted lollipop that I can flash