HTC haters - Sprint HTC One (M8)

you know, I just had to vent about this today. On Android blogs HTC seems to get way more flack and criticism that other OEMs do not receive. I believe HTC is far more transparent and listens to customer criticism. Let me provide some examples I can think of:
1. A frequent complaint of many Android users is that the speakers didn't sound as good as the iPhone's speakers. HTC provided us with wonderful speakers, yet fanbois (mainly Samsung ones) waived their hands dismissively because ultra small bezels are worth sacrificing great sound quality. People ALWAYS complained saying they had to cup their hand in the back of their phone speaker to hear anything in a loud environment. HTC delivered and people blew them off.
2. People constantly complained that Sense UI was a laggy beast. HTC finally fixed this problem with the original M7 and nobody cared. Previously I switched from an Evo 3D to a Galaxy S2 which is arguably one of my favorite Samsung phones because it had literally zero lag at the time on Gingerbread and that's how I preferred it. Once they went to Ice Cream Sandwich I haven't enjoyed a Samsung phone since due to lag and RAM constraints, as well as storage constraints. Of course since Samsung can do no wrong the lag is a hallucination of the user and their phone is defective, or it just "doesn't matter." Yet when it was HTC it was such a big issue. Why the double standard?
3. Fanbois constantly whined that the M7 didn't have an SD card. In the M8 they put one in, yet people still find ways to dismiss the phone and hate on it.
4. People complained the iPhone took superior night photo's, so HTC provided us with the ultra pixel camera which in my opinion took the best low light photos (you could actually see what you took a picture of, unlike most phones which you could barely make anything out.) It wasn't the best quality but it really did shine for someone like me who enjoys taking photos and videos in the club/bar scene where other phones simply couldn't compete. Daylight photos are another thing. I'll give the competition that one.
5. People complained about ultra pixels not being good enough for them, so it appears that HTC has went back to megapixels for their back camera ( at least in the E8) and has even improved the front facing camera far beyond the competition! The rumored HTC Hima camera specs seem amazing, yet I'm sure the fanboys will find a way to dismiss a great phone again.
6. People also complained about how ugly and unoriginal Android phones are. HTC provides a great phone that looks sleek and sexy and often gets compliments from friends. Other OEM fanboys state that aluminum is a gimmick and that phones should be plastic. The biggest complaint though is that there isnt a removable back for a spare battery. I'd be willing to bet my life there even if this were implemented people would still complain and dismiss this phone.
I really don't get it. HTC listens to the complaints that people present, yet when they fix the issues they award the company by buying Samsung or other OEM phones. What the hell?

Why do I get the feeling someone is looking for big drama??? Sure smells like it in this thread... BTW that's not to say I don't agree with what you've said... But honestly who gives a flying fart

I'm gonna shut this down before it turns into a poop storm
I do agree with most of what you said...but it most likely will turn ugly very quickly.
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Well, Apple...

Dear Apple,
I was talking to a friend and she solely bought Apple products because they were branded "Apple" despite the ridiculous price and low specs. Call me a hater/whatever but I still don't like Apple for this sole reason.
I saw this in the funnies today from the newspaper and I had to wake up early to post this before school..
And it continues..
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lol!
I agree with you, but there are many more reasons to add
Just wait a bit that off topic addicts see your thread!
I have heard that apple products are getting a new kind of wireless charging system that runs off the smug and hot air coming from the owners mouths!
Awww, the little dog is wearing glasses. Funny strip.
good day.
That's what my whole family does.
Me: I got a new phone.
Aunt: What kind Apple?
Me: No. Samsung Vibrant
Aunt: What is that? I never heard of it. It must not be good since it's not an iPhone.
Me: No. It's better than the iPhone. It's android.
Aunt: Well, it's not apple so it's not GOOD at all.
Blah blah I asked her why the iPhone was so great, she said it's APPLE. blah blah blah.
I hate people that just buys thing because it's the latest trend.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=7680638
Apple customers just like being abused.
I hate apple because the metal on teh side of my ipad is chipped and i cut my thumb on it
The word sue comes to mind
The only reason why apple is so successful is its (blame me for being a hypocrite if you feel like it):
1) propaganda (oh apple is cool and all that crap)
2) amount of dev's coding apps for it
3) low specs (haha), but great software utilization...[one part that htc fails at])
4) (redundant) but it's immense amount of apps.. again..
LOL. Reminds me of the argument I had with my co-worker when I got my Incredible. He was telling me that the iPhone was the best phone out there. When I asked him why, he says because of the nice icons.
I didn't know how to respond but to laugh.
This video is an accurate portrayal of him and a lot of iPhone guys I know. lol
If all the apps ever made for iphone were ported to android , this will create the most humongous market for android any phone company has ever seen ..
Android is the new green guy on the block, give it a year more, the app world will blow iphone away .
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I had to buy a MacBook pro recently, not because its better (although the build and quality is top notch and just about unmatched) but because I needed it for iOS development. I hated how expensive it was for so little spec wise. $400 for the 8GB upgrade WTF! If it wasn't for me requiring OSX, I'd probably never would own a Mac computer.
That said, their phone's are great no matter how you look at it. Antenna **** up aside, most of the drop call blame should squarely be attributed to AT&T. It's a AT&T/US issue.
Now dont get me wrong, I don't blame anyone for hating the US iPhone due to its crappy service because IT IS a legitimate issue. I also don't blame anyone for hating the Apple brand because of it's positioning (style over utility). But when it comes to the iPhone, they got it right.
I was a Palm OS and WinMo user long before all of this, and many of you probably were too. But the original iPhone was such a huge leap forward in terms of what a smart phone user experience should be like. It wasnt as versatile as WinMo but what it made up for in day to day experience was well worth sacrificing some of the utility.
Today iOS 4 has progressed to a state where you pretty much can't complain. The user experience is still top notch and only matched (and maybe even succeeded) by WebOS, and the utility that used to be missing is now there. The phone itself is quality (of course with its issues like almost any other phone). The specs are aggressive, competitive and well priced unlike their other products.
What made the iPhone good is now being matched or exceeded by others (Android/Web OS). But like I said, it has progressed and still is one of the best mobile OSs out there. Hell even the jail breaking community is not much different than what goes on here.
I own both the EVO and a iPhone 4, and if there's one thing that the iPhone still does better, it's giving a amazing experience straight out of the box. I have to spend hours and hours to get the EVO running competively, and I'm still waiting on some things to come through via the amazing developers here, and while I could (and probably should) jail break my iPhone 4, I haven't yet. It runs great as is. And that's a large part of what's keeping the iPhone slightly ahead with non techies.
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Ohhh my Godddd ! :-0
Lol perfect portrayal of the ppl who want iphone. Haha! And don't know why ...
rice247 said:
LOL. Reminds me of the argument I had with my co-worker when I got my Incredible. He was telling me that the iPhone was the best phone out there. When I asked him why, he says because of the nice icons.
I didn't know how to respond but to laugh.
This video is an accurate portrayal of him and a lot of iPhone guys I know. lol
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convince me not to get an S4

hey guys,
i have been hyped about the HTC one since announcement, but yesterday a friend of mine told me 2 reasons to get the s4 instead that had me thinking:
1. SD card expansion, claims 32GB will not be enough and 64GB is not available in my region
2. Mainstream, in my region S4 will have more accessories, easier support than HTC
I love the HTC one but i am not sure if i must go with a brave choice that i love or a safe choice that i don't hate
ideas ?
many dev's complained about Samsungs new way of not supporting mods or custom roms. In contrary, HTC (and especially the Snapdragon 600) offer great support for the modding scene.
Apart from that, i personally dislike the whole 5"-hype. 4,7" is my personal maximum, otherwise i'd feel like i'd talk to a brick in my hands. I won't talk about the obvious things like the awesome screen, boomsound and the build quality for now, because there are more than enough reviews about that everywhere.
When it comes to storage, i personally don't care about having the option of using any SD-card. I had a 16 GB SD in my Galaxy S2 before and never used it's full capacity, so i don't think i'll fill up the internal storage of my One ever.
If you got a Samsung your just be getting the same old thing i had a note 2 good phone but not a scratch on the one its a pretty awesome phone
There are many possible remedies if you suffer from lack of storage: cloud storage & USB OTG (OTG cable or microsd card reader).
I've seen a ton of accessories for the One already. Of course, Samsung is more well-known than HTC, so there are probably more accessories made for it, but how many accessories do you need for one phone? (As this is my first HTC phone, I'm not well versed in their support department, so I'll let someone else answer that.)
Ultimately, it comes down to what you want in a phone. There are pros and cons to every phone. You won't find "the perfect phone" because it doesn't exist. Your personal likes and usage pattern should determine which phone you get.
Really there is no way to convince anyone. My recommendation is to go into a shop and try them both and see which one you like. Each device has it's pros and cons depends on personal preference. Good luck.
kaz5209 said:
hey guys,
i have been hyped about the HTC one since announcement, but yesterday a friend of mine told me 2 reasons to get the s4 instead that had me thinking:
1. SD card expansion, claims 32GB will not be enough and 64GB is not available in my region
2. Mainstream, in my region S4 will have more accessories, easier support than HTC
I love the HTC one but i am not sure if i must go with a brave choice that i love or a safe choice that i don't hate
ideas ?
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Hah! I won't try to talk you out of anything , it's YOUR MONEY!!
instead , you should ask yourself how you plan to use it.
1.Only when you stockpile lots and lots of musics or videos in your phone, and NEVER delete them, then you will need an extra SD card.
32GB is definitely enough for most people. OTG and cloud are good options , but lets not get too much into them, assuming you don't plan to use them. I can even live with my 16G nexus 7...
2.True. but I always keep my phone naked so it's nothing to me really. I am sure you could find a nice accessory anyway, just not as much choices as S4.
not choosing ONE also means you have to give up the good feeling in your hand, eye-candy looks, incredibly good stereo...(no, I don't mean BEAT). It's not a life-risking choice you know? 90% users could be happy with both.
I can understand that someone direly need SD / removable battery. it just not matters that much to me.
htc one has the best unique design.
Buy an S4 and the kitten gets it!
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S4 will be no better than the One. The screen will be poop, the camera will be ok, the UI will be poop, the audio from the speaker will be poop, the design will be poop, the software will be bloated with rubbish you don't need that you'll constantly have to turn off, you'll have to buy a case to hide it, you'll feel like you bought an S3 and no one will know you've upgraded.
HTC One is just smooooth and very cool.

Riskier than S4?

Hi, I live in South America, I have a brother who lives in the US and I'll be travelling soon so I was planning on upgrading my S3 and after some research I was very excited about asking him to buy me the One Developer edition.
Today I started reading here about all the quality problems that plague HTC's incredible release (gaps, scratches/dents, dead/stuck pixels, speaker problems) and I'm a bit worried because if the phone is defective or breaks afterwards I won't be able to replace it, so now I'm thinking of buying the S4, which now I think is a safer bet, but sadly it was also a safer bet from Samsung's part and I really liked the more ambicious approach that HTC made.
What do you guys think? Would you buy the One knowing that you wouldn't be able to replace it in case it is defective or breaks shortly after buying it?
Thanks.
pLiDeX said:
Hi, I live in South America, I have a brother who lives in the US and I'll be travelling soon so I was planning on upgrading my S3 and after some research I was very excited about asking him to buy me the One Developer edition.
Today I started reading here about all the quality problems that plague HTC's incredible release (gaps, scratches/dents, dead/stuck pixels, speaker problems) and I'm a bit worried because if the phone is defective or breaks afterwards I won't be able to replace it, so now I'm thinking of buying the S4, which now I think is a safer bet, but sadly it was also a safer bet from Samsung's part and I really liked the more ambicious approach that HTC made.
What do you guys think? Would you buy the One knowing that you wouldn't be able to replace it in case it is defective or breaks shortly after buying it?
Thanks.
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LMAO? If there is quality issues like deadpixels or speaker isnt working iam like 101% sure you can get replacement. What the heck seriously? :good:
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LMAO? If there is quality issues like deadpixels or speaker isnt working iam like 101% sure you can get replacement. What the heck seriously? :good:
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It's cos he's in a completely different continent that he can't send it back.... Did you even read the first sentence??
I have never heard of any of those issues. One dude did post about their speaker not working, but that's the 1st case I've seen of it. I read a lot of tech blogs and I haven't see them post about arising issues.
So I feel you'll be safe. But then again, I've only read about the carrier versions and not the Dev. Editions. Why do you feel the S4 is a safer bet? Have you not read about any issues with it? What about the 16GB version only have barely 8GB of actual usable storage? LoL!!
All the problems I mentioned are from threads here im xda, and it seems that there are lots of people that have them, especially the stuck pixels problem.
They are not problems of the Dev edition, they are of the One in general.
I have read about people complaining about S4 cracked screens, but there aren't many cases considering the amount of S4s sold and it also can't be said that they are caused because of manufacturing or design problems, I also have the (maybe wrong) impression that Samsung being so much bigger and wealthier has more capacity to overengineer and exhaustively test their phones, every review talks about the HTC having a better build quality, but that only refers to the case material and not the real build quality which can't be tested just by touching it.
The storage is one of the S4 main disadvantages, but now I have a 16GB S3 with a 64GB microSD and it's not so bad, only problem is not being able to have many 1gb+ games
You'll be fine. This website is only a very tiny fraction of the total user base, and then only a few people from this website even had major problems.
those people talking about stuck or dead pixels are being to anal. most of the time you will never even know they are there unless you use an app that tests them. 468ppi on this phone. ive seen the stuck pixels thread and if you really want to complain about 1 or 2 pixels then you have never owned an lcd tv there is an allowance in the warranty for dead pixels and 1 or 2 will not get you a new tv
Show me a phone a month after its release with absolutely -0- *****es about anything being wrong with it. Its impossible. Everything has some percent of problems.
Well.. ok, I think you convinced me, it also helped that 20 minutes ago my 2 months old S3 fell from my desk to the floor and this is how it looks now:
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The plastic housing and all glass front is too fragile, I don't tend to drop my phone that's why it doesn't have a case, but with these phones you drop it once and you are done
It heard you talking about buying an HTC as your next phone. So it hurled itself off the desk as a half hearted attempt at sympathy. Ive seen it a million times. Dont fall for it.
You probably decreased the odds of having one of these problems just by opening a thread on XDA wondering about these problems! XDA is a small community and remember HTC said they sold 5 million of these devices. Just don't actively look for a problem. If you do, you'll find one
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GS4 owner just got a Nexus 5, and its great

The Nexus 5 looks big in pictures but is actually smaller than my galaxy s4 with a very thin case on the G4. And the Nexus doesn't need a case because the back is is rubbery and grippy, beautiful! Also, it feels absolutely premium in terms of build quality and materials.
The screen is brilliant, bar none the best I've ever seen. And better than my iPhone 5.
The camera shutter sound is very subtle, in fact I'll keep it on
The navigation keys are a lot closer so it's a lot easier to use one handed.
Speaker phone is awesome: loud and clear.
Needless to say the phone overall is as fast as all hell.
Nexus 5 screen is vastly easier to read in direct sunlight
Where does the Galaxy s4 beat the Nexus? So far all I've found is the speaker volume, which seems to be a little low when playing videos. That and the replaceable battery and memory card slot.
Its my first day with the Nexus 5, and so far, so good.
Just thought I'd give a little feedback for those of you who are on the fence about switching. I have both at the moment, but my S4 may soon be on Craigslist.
Hows the camera
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I've only taken a hand full of photos, but so far the camera looks very good. Plenty of detail and great white balance.
I've been considering switching as well - but there's a few things that keep me on the fence. The S4 has AMOLED (which I prefer to IPS, but subjective) and removable battery/microsd. And the battery is larger on the S4.
But as the other user asked, how is the camera? Apparently it's not as good due to flawed software, but there IS image stabilization. Hmm...
When you put the Nexus 5 next to the galaxy s4 with both at full brightness , the Galaxy looks muted, fuzzy, dim. Take your phone to a Best Buy or Sprint store and have a look for yourself.
And here is one of my first few snapshots.
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Was thinking about switching myself, but I've heard mixed things about the camera. I'd have to test it myself in person before I could make a decision
I used to get all anal about about the cameras too until I realize that all I ever use the snaps for is Facebook. I have real cameras for when I get serious.
Good to know.
I recieve mine tomorrow. It's been real S4 gang. Great community here and I'm hoping the Nexus 5 community is as wonderful!
There's already a thread for other devices discussion.
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Perhaps you got a lucky phone or your just so happy to get a new phone you look past the defects but according to this thread and what ive been reading over in the nexus forums i dont think theres ever been a phone thats had this many problems out the box. If i was LG i would seriously be concerned bc i think there gona be seeing thousands of units returned
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509455
I just glanced at that thread and looks for the most part like people being super anal about non issues. But hey, if you get a bad one, send it back. Right?
meh...I was really into the phone at first and was considering selling my S4, but after reading a bunch of reviews and people's opinions on it...it seems meh and I'll just stick with the S4 for now. Went to the Nexus forums and nothing but fanboys in there jumping on anybody that says anything bad about the phone and trying to defend their purchase.
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Went to the Nexus forums and nothing but fanboys in there jumping on anybody that says anything bad about the phone and trying to defend their purchase.
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Ha ha, that's the way it goes, right?
Anyway, here are a few more shots from the camera, and then I am off this topic. Good luck everyone.
And here are the few more snaps I shot with the Nexus.
The saturation is a bit over the top at default settings, but otherwise they look good to me.
I was thinking of selling my S4 for the nexus..until I seen a smaller battery. Specs mean nothing if it doesn't turn on.
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Time will tell about the battery life. Some have said it's so so, and others have said it last for days between charges.
I might get the nexus. But with the wobbly buttons. Non removable battery and no Sim slot. Plus dead pixels and light leakage among other problems that's kind of scary for a phone that's just been release
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There is a sticky thread for other device discussions

iOS user having 3T doubts

Been using my 3T for two days now. Haven't sold my 6S, though the plan was to use the funds I would've got from that to cover the cost of the 3T.
The reason being is I'm having a few doubts. I'm no stranger to Android, as the majority of my smartphone's have been Android, and the first iPhone I bought was in January 2015.
I don't particularly miss any of the iOS features such as iMessage and Facetime, as WhatsApp pretty much covers those, 3D Touch was quite handy but this has gestures instead.
My issues are, I guess, the camera; OIS, mic quality, security, Android Pay.
Camera wise, on paper the 3T is better than my 6S without OIS, but so far it struggles to take pictures without some form of motion blur. Recording, the mic isn't as good either. Also read reports of the camera hump falling off, at least on the 3.
I'm also a little concerned with security, I've had way more pop ups / apps being forced on me in the past two days, than I would have using the iPhone for the same amount of time. Though I heard Nougat is as secure as iOS now?
Oh and I can't get Android Pay to work. Well I managed it by accident, held the phone on the same way as I normally works with the 6S, and nothing. Ended up waving the phone around whilst unlocked until it registered.
Not sure if am looking for faults because Apple have sold their products and OS on me, or if the 6S just is a better device...
... though it can't compete with the 3T's screen, Dash charge, fast fingerprint scanner and battery life.
Miss my Autodesk Graphic app though
Need convincing I've made the right choice, thanks guys
I got my OP3T a couple days ago and I love it.
First off, there is no such thing as a perfect phone, but this one comes pretty close.
Camera - From my testing with the camer on my phone, I think that the main camera is VERY sensitive to motion. YOu need a steady hand to take good pics. However the front facing camera is really good and pics don't come out distorted at all. I think reall all you need is to find a camera app with good stabilization and you will be good.
Microphone - don't really use this, but I don't think it's a problem. I know phone quality is really good and clear for me. There are apps and mods that can probably help out with tweaking the mic
Security - just like anything, with time anything can be hacked. Keep in mind that oneplus 3T is a dev friendly phone. Most other phone manufacturers cringe on letting users modify their phone. Certainly Apple is very much opposed to that as well. Now your popup issue might be something else. There are a lot of popup blockers you can use. I use and recommend Ad Guard pro. It blocks ads and popups in browsers and in apps.
Here is what it comes down to... Do you use your phone more for pictures and video or pretty much anything else? If it's the later, than honestly you can go wrong with the OP3T. If you use it for photos and videos more, then maybe you can research some apps to see if there is anything out there that is worth using to make better pics.
It's funny because I bought a 64gb iPhone 6S plus today to resell and honestly it feels ancient compared to my 3t .
I have natural steady hands..
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Not the best photo obviously lol but it can take great pictures. Any good photographer can take a picture with anything and make it look amazing, camera is sensitive to motion but software update can fix this. No problems with video it looks and sounds very clear not o mention videos are very steady.
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It looks way better on my device
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zingxao said:
Oh and I can't get Android Pay to work. Well I managed it by accident, held the phone on the same way as I normally works with the 6S, and nothing. Ended up waving the phone around whilst unlocked until it registered.
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The NFC sensor is behind the camera. I used it for a purchase 2 hours ago and it was fine. You just have to hold the camera up to the sensor for a few seconds and it should work. You don't even need to open the app. Just need to unlock your phone and have NFC on.
Hope you keep the device

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