I tried searching it, but I kept finding it for other phones and then answers that did not fit what I have. The most common answer is, if it has a sim card, it is GSM. Sprint is CDMA though, so is it CDMA and GSM? When I took the SIM card out, it said that I would not be able to use 4G LTE without the SIM, but I still had full bars, so does it use GSM for 4G, but CDMA for 2G (calls and sms). I was told that the Google PE RUU did not work on my phone because it only works on GSM, but then when I ran MSL finder, it told me it had no MSL (ie not a CDMA phone) and I have en IMEI, not an ESN.
This should be in q&a
If you're on Sprint or Verizon, you're using a CDMA carrier. Since CDMA is too old to support LTE, they used the SIM card to access access GSM technology (LTE) To keep up to date with the new carriers that are running insane download/uploading speeds using LTE.
djpabz23 said:
If you're on Sprint or Verizon, you're using a CDMA carrier. Since CDMA is too old to support LTE, they used the SIM card to access access GSM technology (LTE) To keep up to date with the new carriers that are running insane download/uploading speeds using LTE.
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Got it...I was looking at the some hidden menus and I found the section to choose GSM/WCDMA.CDMA/LTE and some other few options. Thanks for the clarification.
jobzombi said:
Got it...I was looking at the some hidden menus and I found the section to choose GSM/WCDMA.CDMA/LTE and some other few options. Thanks for the clarification.
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Yup, if you choose GSM/UMTS, you won't be able to receive data at all since Sprint isn't a GSM carrier.
djpabz23 said:
Yup, if you choose GSM/UMTS, you won't be able to receive data at all since Sprint isn't a GSM carrier.
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On that note, it has several options, including CDMA only, GSM only, and then gsm/cdma/wcdma/lte (ie all of them). Is it prudent to just leave it on all, or since I am going to use it on Verizon and/or sprint/ting, just leave it cdma/wcdma/lte? If I choose the catch all one that includes gsm, will it affect the phone negatively, as in extra battery usage, overheating, no signal, etc?
jobzombi said:
On that note, it has several options, including CDMA only, GSM only, and then gsm/cdma/wcdma/lte (ie all of them). Is it prudent to just leave it on all, or since I am going to use it on Verizon and/or sprint/ting, just leave it cdma/wcdma/lte? If I choose the catch all one that includes gsm, will it affect the phone negatively, as in extra battery usage, overheating, no signal, etc?
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If you switch to CDMA Only, you're gonna get a much longer battery life than if you were using CDMA/LTE since your LTE service will be disabled. This means that you will only get 3G but your battery life will last longer since LTE requires more power than 3G
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I am a n00b in the subject of unlocking phones to use on other networks etc.
Is there a possibility when the SPL is unlocked that we could use this on any GSM network since it is a 'world' capable phone with the GSM radio and a SIM card?
I have used a lot of WINMO phone son VZW and I flash and unlock quite often. Just had no idea how this process worked. sorry if this is a duplicate of any kind
thank you
You can call Verizon and ask them for the unlock code to your phone. The number is 1-800-711-8300, option 2 I believe. Either way you'll end up talking to a human who can do that for you. Then you'll enter the code (code A) in All Settings > Personal > Security. According to others, this unlock on the SIM will remain, even after flashing with a custom ROM.
no software to unlock the sim card, i don't want to call vz
I can buy unlock code for Imagio.
Why dont you want to call verizon? They are perfectly happy to unlock the sim for you as long as you dont have any problems with your account like delinquent payments. I called and had both of my phones unlocked in minutes and tested my ATT sim card, worked great on the aTT network
GSM 3G on america?
devlspawn said:
Tested my ATT sim card, worked great on the aTT network
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Did you see if you had E or 3G or H?
I've looked at the specs but haven't found the GSM 3G bands that it has.
Just this:
Digital Dual (CDMA,PCS) /1X, EVDO /Rev.A <---- perfectly clear
GSM Quad Band (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) <---- perfectly clear
WCDMA / HSDPA / HSUPA <---- not clear if it has 850mhz here
I guess it doesn't have 3G in 850mhz but I still have hopes.
Regards!
I only get "E" - my SIM is 3G capable, but the corporate plan is text-only. In other words, I can't say for certain if it will get 3G speeds. HSDPA is available here in the US, so it should be possible for an Imagio to have 3G in the States.
I called yesterday, told them I would be going overseas, they gave me the unlock code. Simple as pie. I can use my neighbor's AT&T sim card without any issues minus stuff that is Verizon specific.
The SIM unlock was easy and successful. Just call Verizon at the above number and its a done deal in 30 seconds. Will try my wife's SIM in it later.....woohoo....
because i dont have vz wireless phone number, but i need to use the t-moible or at&t, i call them, but they need me vz wireless phone number... i dont have, they not unlock for me
as i was told u are able to get it unlocked verizon will do it if ur account is 3months old and in good standing... also as far as using it on gsm not sure as of yet but will say tmobile basic signal i E in an area where out of ur basic ntwork jumpin off of another tower it will put u on H or even G but there is no 3G
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as i was told u are able to get it unlocked verizon will do it if ur account is 3months old and in good standing... also as far as using it on gsm not sure as of yet but will say tmobile basic signal i E in an area where out of ur basic ntwork jumpin off of another tower it will put u on H or even G but there is no 3G
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H is HSDPA, which is 3.5G (faster than 3G... 7.2mbps compared to 1.5 mbps or something like that)
Edge is like 0.3 mbps and GPRS like 0.1
not really sure, but you get the idea.
Here in Mexico we have HSDPA but never get above 2mbps, at nights we do peak at 3mbps but avarage is still at much 2mbps.
Did I do something wrong?
I told them I was going over seas, I gave them my sim number and they said I was all set to go over there. Does this mean my phone is unlocked, I didn't have to put in any numbers. I will hate myself if I said the wrong thing. And if I did it right then how do I switch between sim cards and cdma?
For you phone to be unlocked they would have to give you a number to enter.
To switch between sim and cdma, go to settings -> phone -> network and change it from global mode to GSM
Razorfold said:
For you phone to be unlocked they would have to give you a number to enter.
To switch between sim and cdma, go to settings -> phone -> network and change it from global mode to GSM
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Not true, works fine with t mobile and at&t, didn't enter any numbers did it all from their, weird, but whatever.
I think a few things from the last three posts need clarification:
1. When you call VZW Global Support, they should have given a security code to unlock the SIM. It is a string of numbers. It is not a phone number.
2. Once the SIM is unlocked, if a SIM is present in the phone, there is no guarantee that switching back from GSM/UMTS to Global will switch the phone back to CDMA. There have been times where I've done that, and the phone has stayed on AT&T (my employer uses AT&T). I think a better method is to use either CDMA or GSM/UMTS, and to avoid the Global setting completely.
Kebero said:
I think a few things from the last three posts need clarification:
1. When you call VZW Global Support, they should have given a security code to unlock the SIM. It is a string of numbers. It is not a phone number.
2. Once the SIM is unlocked, if a SIM is present in the phone, there is no guarantee that switching back from GSM/UMTS to Global will switch the phone back to CDMA. There have been times where I've done that, and the phone has stayed on AT&T (my employer uses AT&T). I think a better method is to use either CDMA or GSM/UMTS, and to avoid the Global setting completely.
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On item number 1 I would agree with you ignore my experience because even my friend who unlocks all kinds of phones for metro says it is a weird case. I have never received any unlcock cod yet it says "sim security unlocked" probably will be screwed up if I ever want to flash or reset it but whatever.
On number 2 I can't agree with you because I bought an at&t go card just for sh**ts and giggles and I have no problems, infact I can switch between the two while the phone is on, done many tests. But if anyone else experiences this issue I would like to know.
I have never heard an unlock like that. But could be... like an 'on air update'... Most times is a code or the frown upon methods (connect it to a PC or a box).
If any one wants to know, no it does not have GSM 3G for 850mhz band, not 3G with ATT and others in the world that uses that band. Tested it myself.
medellinrob said:
I have never heard an unlock like that. But could be... like an 'on air update'... Most times is a code or the frown upon methods (connect it to a PC or a box).
If any one wants to know, no it does not have GSM 3G for 850mhz band, not 3G with ATT and others in the world that uses that band. Tested it myself.
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Even if you run at&t 3g it is much slower than verizon's. Either that or safari renders slower than s**t on brother's Icrap 3g. T mobile's is faster if you can find their 3g coverage, good luck.
PS I am still looking for internet connection settings for tmobile as I sold an unlocked imagio to my buddy and he can't get the data connection working.
does anyone ever solve de 3G problem with the 850 MHZ band... I live in Venezuela use movistar i ve the imagio sim unlocked canĀ“t get 3G due to band restriction
Hi,
Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.
If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none
much appreciated.
If it's a developer edition then "I believe" you could use it on sprint. T-Mobile is a GSM carrier and since the only option on the CDMA phones is for global GSM for international travel that you will likely not get it to work. They don't have the radios in it to work on T-mobile. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
themogul said:
Hi,
Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.
If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none
much appreciated.
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This has been covered before yes it will. Verizon moto x is ( might be wrong) the only phone that is Sim unlocked besides T-Mobile and gsm developer edition. Tmobile Sim should work just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442735
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mawells787 said:
This has been covered before yes it will. Verizon moto x is ( might be wrong) the only phone that is Sim unlocked besides T-Mobile and gsm developer edition. Tmobile Sim should work just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442735
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I put a prepaid T-Mobile sim into my Dev Verizon Moto X, and I get good LTE speeds.
folsom68 said:
I put a prepaid T-Mobile sim into my Dev Verizon Moto X, and I get good LTE speeds.
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Just seconding that I put a T-Mobile SIM in to my VZW dev edition Moto X (4.4), and it was SIM unlocked as expected, but also had good LTE signal, indicating that Band 4 is definitely enabled on these phones, contrary to published specs. Good news!
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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scottjb said:
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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Yes. I haven't done it with the Moto X yet, but I did it without issue previously with both the Verizon S4 and LG G2. It's part of an FCC agreement when Verizon got LTE. It's basically GSM unlocked. Data, text, and calls work.
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scottjb said:
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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Most Verizon LTE phones have a GSM radio and work on AT&T and Tmobile
I made a call to verify it works, and I received text messages from T-Mobile.
I also didn't have to add APNs, it seemed to figure them out.
Sprint won't work. Cause most of the CDMA bands and LTE bands are different.
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But I'm pretty sure T-Mobile will cause it is Sim unlocked
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If it's a developer edition then "I believe" you could use it on sprint. T-Mobile is a GSM carrier and since the only option on the CDMA phones is for global GSM for international travel that you will likely not get it to work. They don't have the radios in it to work on T-mobile. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes, you are wrong. It does work with either a "retail" Verizon phone, or developer edition.
The big misconception is that since Verizon uses CDMA for voice and sms, that their phones only work on CDMA. This is NOT True.
Because Verizon's 4G LTE phones are "global" they support the same GSM/GPRS/Edge bands as ATT and T-Mobile for voice and data so they can be used globally on GSM carrier networks. Another little plus is that due to the FCC rules around their 700Mhz spectrum, they are SIM unlocked, so they happen to work with ATT and T-Mobile sim inserted. Since ATT uses the same bands for HSPA and HSPA+ as they do for EDGE, you can get HSPA speeds. In areas where T-Mobile's "network modernization" has refarmed their 1900Mhz edge to HSPA, you'll get HSPA speeds. In Tmobile areas that HSPA is still over AWS, you'll fall back to Edge when trying Verizon branded devices.
Using both developer and "retail" variants of the Verizon Moto X, I have inserted my T-Mobile SIM and had it work after setting the phones to "global". I've done the same with my iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, Blackberry Z10, Q10, Nokia Lumia 928, and Samsung Galaxy S4 and Note 3. Some of the phones, like the Z10 and 928 only gave me EDGE speeds the last time I tried them. The X and S4 have given me HSPA. T-Mobile recently rolled out LTE here, as putting the T-Mo Sim in my VZW iPhne 5S last week gave me T-Mo LTE for the first time. When i get time I'll have to go back and test my other devices again to see what they do.
With recent firmware updates on my X, note 3 and Galaxy S4, I have had to manually enter T-Mobile APN settings to get them to work.
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Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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Yes it does work as long as the APN settings come down automatically to your phone, or you manually enter the correct APN settings.
On a side note... some have asked if you can do the same with a Sprint phone (since they are cdma based too). The answer is..I don't know for sure, but it really depends. I haven't looked into the sprint phones to know their "global roaming" capabilities, and what radios and frequencies their devices support. I guess as long as their phones support the quad band GSM frequencies and are (or can be) SIM Unlocked, then you can do the same with Sprint phones to get at least Edge speeds. HSPA and LTE would again depend on the frequencies the sprint phones support, and the target carrier network uses.
Thank you everybody!!!
This is excellent info and more importantly very good details. I am very grateful...
Time to the Moto X with orange accents now
themogul said:
Hi,
Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.
If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none
much appreciated.
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"
I have the same issues as SOMFW. Disabling LTE resolves all these problems, so it seems like it's an issue with the LTE-to-2G/3G fallback for phone calls.
When I force it into HSPA+, I have both simultaneous voice and data and no dialing issues.
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I have the same issues as SOMFW. Disabling LTE resolves all these problems, so it seems like it's an issue with the LTE-to-2G/3G fallback for phone calls.
When I force it into HSPA+, I have both simultaneous voice and data and no dialing issues.
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How did you disable 4G? or Force it into HSPA+? Is there a setting I am missing?
Somebody else mentioned Manually adding T-Mobile APN is this something you did?
On My Moto,x when using the Vz SIM there is an APN labeled Verizon that appears on its own, On the TM SIM it was blank
Also, while on the TM SIM under About Phone / Status My phone number doesn't show, On the Vz SIM it is there and the Dialer works fine. But I still get the Dialer Bug, which is, When I click the Keypad icon the bottom area goes blank and I have to hit the back button and repeat it. This only happens if I swipe the dialer out of running apps list, Force close it or haven't used it for several hours.
Any Ideas?
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How did you disable 4G? or Force it into HSPA+? Is there a setting I am missing?
Somebody else mentioned Manually adding T-Mobile APN is this something you did?
On My Moto,x when using the Vz SIM there is an APN labeled Verizon that appears on its own, On the TM SIM it was blank
Also, while on the TM SIM under About Phone / Status My phone number doesn't show, On the Vz SIM it is there and the Dialer works fine. But I still get the Dialer Bug, which is, When I click the Keypad icon the bottom area goes blank and I have to hit the back button and repeat it. This only happens if I swipe the dialer out of running apps list, Force close it or haven't used it for several hours.
Any Ideas?
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These are the steps I used to turn off LTE and enable HSPA:
1) Download/install the app LTE OnOff
2) Change Mobile Network type in Settings to LTE / GSM / UMTS
3) On LTE OnOff, hit the Three-Dot menu in the top right, and select "Select radio band"
4) Select USA Band
5) Hit the Turn Off Radio button
6) Select GSM auto (PRL) under Preferred Network Type
7) Turn On Radio
The phone should show no data for a second, then 3G, then eventually an H for HSPA will be displayed.
You can also try GSM only or WCDMA preferred if GSM auto doesn't work.
Still trying to figure out how to get LTE to play nice with it.
There is a known LTE bug that causes this issue in 4.4. Check aracanexvi's thread in the Droid Ultra section. Basically we will need to leave LTE off of you want to make calls reliably.
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Would be easier if I just shared the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591954
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Which one are people having better luck with, at or T-Mobile?
can you put a T-Mobile ROM for it to work as well?
Using Verizon Moto X (locked Verizon retail) on ATT should be as good as using it on Tmobile, assuming I don't need LTE ?
Thanks.
My phone is sim unlocked, using viper one rom, i'm always stuck on gsm even though my carrier "ooredoo algeria" supports 3G, i have checked and the cdma network frequencies are well supported on the device, how do make i the phone use 3G.
Abdou.rk said:
My phone is sim unlocked, using viper one rom, i'm always stuck on gsm even though my carrier "ooredoo algeria" supports 3G, i have checked and the cdma network frequencies are well supported on the device, how do make i the phone use 3G.
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Have you tried going into *#*#4636#*#* and scrolling to the bottom, and changing the frequency to WCDMA only? Also, if you have a SIM card, your phone is GSM. CDMA phones are always without SIM cards, unless they support 4G (since 4G needs a SIM card to work)
ooredoo dz network mode switch must be Automatic
Abdou.rk said:
My phone is sim unlocked, using viper one rom, i'm always stuck on gsm even though my carrier "ooredoo algeria" supports 3G, i have checked and the cdma network frequencies are well supported on the device, how do make i the phone use 3G.
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Hey Abdou, you have to put your network mode on "automatic" and ooredoo's network will choose the right netmode for you
Problem solved
VoynichJimmy said:
Hey Abdou, you have to put your network mode on "automatic" and ooredoo's network will choose the right netmode for you
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Thank you for the reply, but i already fixed the issue, i was a noob when i asked it and i didn't understand what cdma and gsm meant i thought cdma meant 3G, but now i know that UMTS means 3G haha, and that i am on a gsm network, i figured it out.
For some reason my sprint HTC ONE m7 can make call and recieve gsm data but no 3g or 4g. I have to set phone prefrences to gsm only, anything else and it wont even recieve gsm data.
stanley1131 said:
For some reason my sprint HTC ONE m7 can make call and recieve gsm data but no 3g or 4g. I have to set phone prefrences to gsm only, anything else and it wont even recieve gsm data.
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Could it be that you have a CDMA phone running on a GSM network? You phone does not have the correct bands to get the higher data speeds on a GSM network!
stanley1131 said:
For some reason my sprint HTC ONE m7 can make call and recieve gsm data but no 3g or 4g. I have to set phone prefrences to gsm only, anything else and it wont even recieve gsm data.
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I think you already have started enough threads for that issue :laugh: post in the existing threads and stop creating new ones twice a day please!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/help-apn-wont-save-htc-one-sprint-t2878558
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/unlocked-sprint-htc-one-ultra-mobile-t2879304
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-htc-one/general/apn-settings-wont-save-t2878489
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/using-sprint-htc-one-metropcs-running-t2877597
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81 read 5) and 16)
Agreed. All other threads have been deleted.
Now you really should do your research before getting a device. You have a CDMA device and the best data you will get on a GSM network is Edge as the sim slot is only for data roaming.
zelendel said:
Agreed. All other threads have been deleted.
Now you really should do your research before getting a device. You have a CDMA device and the best data you will get on a GSM network is Edge as the sim slot is only for data roaming.
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well i guess i have to sell this phone then,if i want to use ultramobile would there be a difference between the att and tmobile version of htc one?
which one to use at any particular time?
Just voice on Verizon - no SIM.
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which one to use at any particular time?
Just voice on Verizon - no SIM.
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Looks like there are 100 other people who are just like me - don't know.
It looks like this would be possible with just a switch of APN's and checking a choice under "networks" or possibly it would auto choose the APN based on networks choice. But in practical application would it work?
I know i have switched b/w AT&T, T-Mobile, and VZW and it would recognize the network. Only network that wouldn't work for me was Sprint.
Verizon LTE phones require a Verizon SIM to work with both its CDMA network and its LTE network. If a Verizon SIM is not present in one of these devices, it won't work with either Verizon's CDMA network or its LTE network.
dualityim said:
Verizon LTE phones require a Verizon SIM to work with both its CDMA network and its LTE network. If a Verizon SIM is not present in one of these devices, it won't work with either Verizon's CDMA network or its LTE network.
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Yes, my question though is, for voice only on Verizon - without SIM just CDMA activation - Can a person have both and switch easily between them by activating the 3g data - voice via phone identification no SIM required with Verizon (pageplus) and a SIM for at&t (straighttalk or redpocket).
lightfire said:
Yes, my question though is, for voice only on Verizon - without SIM just CDMA activation - Can a person have both and switch easily between them by activating the 3g data - voice via phone identification no SIM required with Verizon (pageplus) and a SIM for at&t (straighttalk or redpocket).
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Ah, interesting. I hadn't thought about using a CDMA MVNO on Verizon. I know that if you are just using Verizon, CDMA activation without SIM won't work because Verizon is using the SIM to authenticate to its CDMA network on LTE-enabled phones. But for Page Plus, you may be able to manually program the CDMA activation without using a SIM? Have you manually programmed CDMA phones to work on Page Plus in the past, and if so, how does it work?
dualityim said:
Ah, interesting. I hadn't thought about using a CDMA MVNO on Verizon. I know that if you are just using Verizon, CDMA activation without SIM won't work because Verizon is using the SIM to authenticate to its CDMA network on LTE-enabled phones. But for Page Plus, you may be able to manually program the CDMA activation without using a SIM? Have you manually programmed CDMA phones to work on Page Plus in the past, and if so, how does it work?
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Yes, I have a Moto-G activated on pageplus. I called them up, gave the ph ID then called a Verizon activation number. Worked well.
My problem is I am on the edge where Verizon works a bit better (have to walk outside and find a reception area) at my home with AT&T not picking up except occasionally. If I had the cheap pageplus plan for Verizon (not LTE) and Redpocket or straighttalk activated on AT&T it would give me a bit of flexibility if I could do it on one phone.
I just don't know if it will work. Perhaps the Nexus 6 being a LTE device won't activate on pageplus as a 3g device.
I may just activate an AT&T MVNO SIM on data and just use hangouts and hangouts dialer. Use wi-fi at home and data SIM when about. Redpocket has a T-mobile 1 GB plan for $10/month; haven't yet tried Tmobile reception. I live in a cellular black hole.