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Keeps rebooting with SD in

OK here is the deal.
I have a Note with rooted stock ROM KKA and many apps (300+ probably).
This has probably led to some random reboots, sometimes it rebooted 5 times in a row, sometimes I get 10 days without a reboot.
This led me to start toying with new ROMs etc. ...but I didn't even begin.
I use Mobile Odin Pro for most of these things, so I used it to flash franco #8 kernel to have a "better" kernel for my needs (plus CWM that I didn't have up to that point - just root).
Now, maybe it is some app updates, maybe it is that I extensively move apps to SD (always using Note's own app manager), maybe that I used that kernel, but "somewhere at that point" Note reboots REALLY REALLY got worse to the point that I cannot use it.
I did change the kernel to CF-Root (which is actually like stock + CWM) for KKA, but didn't improve things.
Note boots, I get to the normal Android screen but seems that it refreshes 2-3 times until it freezes and then Note either completely reboots (I get white text "Galaxy Note" etc.) or does some kind of "soft reboot" where I get a black screen and Android normal screen with my clock etc. comes back up. Then after a while the same, even if I am doing something else (moved away from the main screen). Also not all the times I get a request for my SIM PIN (just some times), leading to believe that either radio stays "on" during that "reboot" or doesn't get initialized properly.
I've noticed that it is DIRECTLY related to my SD being in the device or not. When I remove it (with device off - of course), Note boots ok and keeps working (although lacks a tone of my apps).
I have fully surface tested the SD. It is a Samsung (I got Samsung on purpose) 32GB C10. Doesn't seem to be "hardware" related.
Since I have CWM (and root of course) is there any debugging info I could read somewhere, most probably a boot log or something that COULD lead me to the problem? It could be a misbihaving app running during boot and being on SD (although I did try not to move such apps in SD). It could be related to the kernels I tried.
I didn't plan to wipe my device before official ICS.
Unfortunately I don't have proper backup either. (misbihaving Kies - I did make a CWM backup but it was already with the problem)
Any help appreciated.

...right... all those experts, yet not even a hint...

While I can't really help with the issue ... I'd just try a different SD to make 110% sure there's no issue with the current one, although it appears to be ok.
If you think it's an app all you can do is install or remove them one by one to find the one (or more) misbehaving, you can't really expect anyone to pinpoint THE ONE with just the info "I have 300+ apps" at hand, can you ?

No, of course.
But it would help if someone could give me a way to read a log or something. It is Linux under the sheets ain't it?

Try logcat App from market or logcollector. you can also collect logs from Android commander.
Adb command to get logs
Enable USB debugging
Connect Data cable
Open command prompt and get into adb command folder
and type this command
adb shell logcat log.txt
it ll create a text file in the same folder.

Thanks for the info.
In the meantime I found out but putting all SD apps in a subfolder and putting them back in (with new reboot each time) few by few, that indeed some (few) apps create the problem. I haven't EXACTLY pinpointed yet and I am not sure if a certain... mix is to blame, but it's better to loose maybe 10 apps than have this mess.
I plan to wipe and do some more selective app instalation after ICS is officially out for Note.

NLS said:
OK here is the deal.
I have a Note with rooted stock ROM KKA and many apps (300+ probably).
This has probably led to some random reboots, sometimes it rebooted 5 times in a row, sometimes I get 10 days without a reboot.
This led me to start toying with new ROMs etc. ...but I didn't even begin.
I use Mobile Odin Pro for most of these things, so I used it to flash franco #8 kernel to have a "better" kernel for my needs (plus CWM that I didn't have up to that point - just root).
Now, maybe it is some app updates, maybe it is that I extensively move apps to SD (always using Note's own app manager), maybe that I used that kernel, but "somewhere at that point" Note reboots REALLY REALLY got worse to the point that I cannot use it.
I did change the kernel to CF-Root (which is actually like stock + CWM) for KKA, but didn't improve things.
Note boots, I get to the normal Android screen but seems that it refreshes 2-3 times until it freezes and then Note either completely reboots (I get white text "Galaxy Note" etc.) or does some kind of "soft reboot" where I get a black screen and Android normal screen with my clock etc. comes back up. Then after a while the same, even if I am doing something else (moved away from the main screen). Also not all the times I get a request for my SIM PIN (just some times), leading to believe that either radio stays "on" during that "reboot" or doesn't get initialized properly.
I've noticed that it is DIRECTLY related to my SD being in the device or not. When I remove it (with device off - of course), Note boots ok and keeps working (although lacks a tone of my apps).
I have fully surface tested the SD. It is a Samsung (I got Samsung on purpose) 32GB C10. Doesn't seem to be "hardware" related.
Since I have CWM (and root of course) is there any debugging info I could read somewhere, most probably a boot log or something that COULD lead me to the problem? It could be a misbihaving app running during boot and being on SD (although I did try not to move such apps in SD). It could be related to the kernels I tried.
I didn't plan to wipe my device before official ICS.
Unfortunately I don't have proper backup either. (misbihaving Kies - I did make a CWM backup but it was already with the problem)
Any help appreciated.
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Hi
Try doing the following if you have CWM recovery installed. Reboot into recovery -go to advanced, clean cache and fix permissions. That should resolve your issue.
B
Ash

Sorry to be late on this, but I can confirm from my own experience that after a certain number of apps transferred on SD, I got soft bootloop too.
To stop that madness, I had to boot my Note without its external microsd card, and uninstall some of the transferred apps. Thereafter I could boot even with card. But eventually I chose to keep almost all apps in internal memory, and externalize only those 2-3 which are really huge (including the Ebook update from Samsung which takes some 30 megabytes itself).
Ernesto de Bernardis
[from my Galaxy Note]

hi there, same issue here, but mine occurs even when installed on the internal sd.I had my own thread but couldn’t fined it.attached is my catlog :

ashT1971 said:
Hi
Try doing the following if you have CWM recovery installed. Reboot into recovery -go to advanced, clean cache and fix permissions. That should resolve your issue.
B
Ash
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didn't help,but thx anyways.

as it seems that no body is wiling to help,I'm gonna share my investigations results :
-results are the same in ICS roms.
-it seems that this happens when the number of installed goes over 100 (or something close to it) no matter in the int-sd or ext-sd.
-stock rom and kernel and clean install doesn't make any difference.
-during the media initialization phone goes extra hot and battery drains very fast.
so in conclusion I think it's either hardware related think or OS restriction...
any further help or comment is highly appreciated.

Suggestion. Move all apps first to phone. Format the card. Retain all system related apps like ROM manager, backup, memory cleaner, browser, camera etc. on phone itself. Move other apps which are likely to remain live all the time to internal sd card. Move the balance to external sd card. Thus helped with a similar problem on windows phone 7.
If the above doesn't help, try freezing batches of apps using an app like bloat freezer to zero down on the problem.
Sometimes, an erroneous movement of system cache to external card also causes this problem.
Ash
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solution to your apps 2 sd move problem
See some of my previous posts by doing a search where i have referred to this problem and also the solution.
Basically the note is sh1t at moving apps to sd card. Especially after the apps count goes above hundred or so. Many times the phone software tells that the app is moved to sd card but it has been moved in a faulty manner and subsequently the phone starts reboot loops which is only solved by pulling out the sd card and deleting the affected apps which are always apps that have been moved to sd card.
Presently have 352 apps on my phone and it is working fine but this has been after many many many frustrating moments at trial and error and realising the samsung galaxy note is sh1t at moving apps to sd card and finding work arounds which are slow but work.
Your solution to the problem,
remove the auto update feature for any app on the android market or elsewhere if that app has been moved to sd card.
uninstall sd card or pull it out battery and then remove card reboot loops prevent uninstalling card. my phone sometimes went into reboot loops for 8hours at a stertch with the phone being unusable through out.
go to the application manager (from samsung and not the android one) and select from drop down list to sort apps by size and delete all apps that are shown as having a size of 4kb / 8kb / 12kb (when actual size is many times bigger)
reinstall sd card and restart phone and phone will work fine if you have deleted all apps of the sizes mentioned above.
then to prevent the problem from recurring again always manually update any apps that have been moved to sd card ONE AT A TIME other wise problem recurs without fail as this phone is **** at moving apps to sd after a hundred or so app are on phone
you can auto update any apps that have not been moved to sd
keep apps on phone if they are to do with file managers / browsers / camera apps etc
the above has been deduced by me by trial and error and months of frustration with the sh1t apps 2 sd move capabilities of this phone
DONT BATCH MOVE apps to sd using apps like app2sdmove etc as the problem will recur and move any app manually one by one if you have loads of apps
Following the above method my phone works fine now with about 352 apps but occassionally when i accidentally autoupdate a few apps together that have been moved to sd card then the problem recurs and i have to delete apps as mentioned above and reinstal then works fine. But it is a f*cking pain reinstalling many apps manually one by one but no option due to the crap capabilities of this phone for the purposes of apps2sd move.
I dont face this problem with two of my lower specced android phones
Also this phone gets internal memory errors when about 200mb is free and freezes over when about 190mb left. Where as my old htc desire with poorer hardware used to work fine even when 4-5mb free on 2.1 firmware and needed 15mb free with 2.2 firmware but the note with much better hardware struggles when 200mb is free.
Presently using my above tried and tested advice i have about 1.65gb of apps on internal memory (352 apps) and with 72 apps moved to card with rest on phone even though a further 75 can be moved to card i have opted not to move them due to the disability of this phone to move them properly without getting reboot loops and phone is working fine but lags for home button presses. Cant wait for ICS and hoping that this situation hopefully gets resolved or will have to upgrade sooner than intended originally as fed up with the apps2sd move 'disability' of this phone. I would be surprised if any other android phone had a ****tier apps 2 sd move capability like this phone has. I am pleased about the rest of the phone but the limitation is irritating as have had to repeatedly uninstall and reinstall apps. But now that i know the limitation it is a bit easier to work around as mentioned above.

Has your problem been resolved following the advice I gave yesterday?

Well the problem stopped when I moves some of the apps to a folder in SD card (so they couldn't be "seen" by the OS) until... yesterday when it started again (possibly after some app updates).
I will probably do the same (move them off to a folder and back to install position few by few) until ICS comes and I wipe my phone (and reinstall fewer apps).
BTW, wiping caches and rebuilding permisions did not help.

NLS said:
Well the problem stopped when I moves some of the apps to a folder in SD card (so they couldn't be "seen" by the OS) until... yesterday when it started again (possibly after some app updates).
I will probably do the same (move them off to a folder and back to install position few by few) until ICS comes and I wipe my phone (and reinstall fewer apps).
BTW, wiping caches and rebuilding permisions did not help.
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Try to move to SD only apps which do not start at boot and do not run in background. Works for me.

bubblesmoney said:
Has your problem been resolved following the advice I gave yesterday?
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definitely thx a lot.

NLS said:
Well the problem stopped when I moves some of the apps to a folder in SD card (so they couldn't be "seen" by the OS) until... yesterday when it started again (possibly after app updates).
I will probably do the same (move them off to a folder and back to install position few by few) until ICS comes and I wipe my phone (and reinstall fewer apps).
BTW, wiping caches and rebuilding permisions did not help.
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Don't bother creating folders and making apps useless etc. just follow my advice mentioned in previous posts in this and other threads and your device will work fine with more than Three hundred apps. It just works around the crap sd move capabilities of this phone. Just hope some people from Samsung see this thread as this problem is easily reproducible and predictable.

debernardis said:
Try to move to SD only apps which do not start at boot and do not run in background. Works for me.
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I think I do. Maybe I missed some.
If there was some easy logging on this phone I would know...

bubblesmoney said:
Don't bother creating folders and making apps useless etc. just follow my advice mentioned in previous posts in this and other threads and your device will work fine with more than Three hundred apps. It just works around the crap sd move capabilities of this phone. Just hope some people from Samsung see this thread as this problem is easily reproducible and predictable.
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Will do. Needs time and I don't have it.

Storage space running out

For the past week, I have received an error message at my storage space is running out and some system functions may not work properly. I am also receiving repeated force close error messages, which I assume to be related to the storage space issue. The problem is, I have plenty of internal storage space and external storage space available. Below, I've attached screenshots of my current storage.
The error message first came up while using the AOSP 4.2 ROM compiled by pawitp. Before getting the message, I have been using this rom for a couple months with no problem. I reflashed the ROM several times to remedy the issue , but each time I would end up with force close issues after a day or two. Before flashing, I would perform a full wipe, wife cache/dalvik, and format system. Just to be sure, I have tried flashing 4.2 that was recently released by Collective, and the latest slim4.2. I am having these issues no matter what rom I am on.
Edit: cannot upload images from the xda app. Will upload as son as I'm at the computer.
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Suggestion;
Go get SD maid, by darken, on Google play store. it does much more than clean the SD.
Try the free version, then buy the pro if you want to support the dev.

laughingT said:
Suggestion;
Go get SD maid, by darken, on Google play store. it does much more than clean the SD.
Try the free version, then buy the pro if you want to support the dev.
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Unfortunately, I cannot download anything from the play store due to the storage issue...

Would uninstalling some apps allow you to install others. ? You can always reinstall them later.
Alternatively. Go into settings, apps, and start deleting app data. for example, gallery, which can take up much more space than it needs. Leave the app, jus clear the data. Maps, browser, etc.
Chances are that your data data partition is full of junk, near its 422mb limit. If you open terminal emulator, type su, then df, you will see which partition is causing the problem.

+1 for what laughingT said
Taking a look at the partitions is the best way to start on this as it is the most common cause, usually /data (/data/data) or /cache is full.
Due to the way android lumps the different partitions toegether in the system view, it might look like there is enough free space when in reality there are sub partitions that are full.
But:
"The insufficient storage" will also be (missleadingly) displayed if an app can not be installed because it's .odex file already exists (for whatever reason) from a previous install.

Thanks for input, Dark3n.
Correct me if I am wrong, but your SD Maid app can clean up stray odex, yes?
I have used SD Maid Pro to keep my phone 'clean'. I had 400 mb in datadata on cm10.0 at one point, and SD Maid helped me trim that down to 150 mb.

Dark3n said:
+1 for what laughingT said
Taking a look at the partitions is the best way to start on this as it is the most common cause, usually /data (/data/data) or /cache is full.
Due to the way android lumps the different partitions toegether in the system view, it might look like there is enough free space when in reality there are sub partitions that are full.
But:
"The insufficient storage" will also be (missleadingly) displayed if an app can not be installed because it's .odex file already exists (for whatever reason) from a previous install.
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Thank you to everyone for the help so far. I wiped and reflashed the ROM so that I could have enough time to get into Titanium Backup before the launcher FCed on me. I restored SD Maid and see that my datadata partition is full (420 of 422). Can I move the system apps to the SD card with SD Maid? I thought that I had this option at one time, but I do not seem to get an option to move my system apps. I tried to convert them to user apps using link2sd (was able to get this installed from a flashable zip that I created before having this issue), but I am unable to do so.

What is odd is that my data data is basically full with only the standard system apps installed on slim and/or AOCP. I didn't even flash gapps.
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Moving apps to SD, especially system apps, probably won't help you. Your data partition isn't full, right?
I'd use the app cleaner tab and system cleaner tabs in SD maid to selectively clear app and system data. Clean browsers, maps, galleries and photo apps, at least. this won't uninstall the apps which is good, but it should clear a lot of garbage out.
If that won't do for you, then go into manage apps under the settings menu and clear at the browser data and cache, the maps data and cache, and the gallery data and cache. I'll take a guess that that alone will free up 150 mb.

laughingT said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but your SD Maid app can clean up stray odex, yes?
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jsingle3 said:
Can I move the system apps to the SD card with SD Maid?
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Not yet, but both on the TODO list in that order. No time for coding SD Maid atm . Soon...

laughingT said:
Thanks for input, Dark3n.
Correct me if I am wrong, but your SD Maid app can clean up stray odex, yes?
I have used SD Maid Pro to keep my phone 'clean'. I had 400 mb in datadata on cm10.0 at one point, and SD Maid helped me trim that down to 150 mb.
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I'm trying everything I can but I can't seem to find out what is taking up all my data data storage space. I've cleaned the cache and data for every app and it is still showing me around 400. Like I said before, I've got nothing installed other than what came on the slim 4.2 ROM (plus es file explorer and SD maid).
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okay. try this
start terminal emulator and enter
su
du datadata > sdcard/du.txt
exit
exit
. . .
okay, now go open the text file named du.txt that is in your sdcard.
it should list every file in datadata along with the size of each one.
because the size is at the beginning of each line, you can also sort the info by file size, either on your phone with an app like quickoffice, or on your pc.
there is also a way to do that sorting in the shell in terminal emulator, or with a script, but I'm too rusty on linux commands to give you that long command line.
edit: du is going to show the file space used by each subdirectory. that should point you to the offending files and orphan directories.

Did not find any issues after running the datadata log. I did, however, notice several simlink errors after getting es file explorer installed. Flashed the zip referenced in the following link to see if it would fix my errors (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541942). So far, so good. No storage notifications, I am able to install from play store, and can restore from T/B. I will report back in a day or two to confirm if this fixed my issue.

I'm not sure that fix script is useful for the jelly bean partition layout, which is different from ics , I think.
They are referencing CM9 and a 170mb datadata partition. As you know, we've got a 422mb datadata partition, and I beleive jb uses a different strategy to make use of the fast flash rom in captivate.

Sorry, wrong link. I meant to link the datafix app from the play store. By the way, still seems to be working well.
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Okay, I figured it out. I looked in my cwm log and noticed that I had a TON of bad blocks in my datadata partition. This effectively shrunk my partition down to about 50MB. No wonder I had storage warning issues as soon as I would flash any ROM (and why I needed datafix app to free up some space). Before using the phone as a paperweight, I decided I would reflash to stock kg3 to see if repartitioning and flashing back to cm 10.1 could fix it. After going back to stock and then getting back to 10.1, the bad datadata sectors appear to be fixed. I'll report back in a few days.

Any idea what caused the badblocks?

Dark3n said:
Any idea what caused the badblocks?
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I'll hazard a guess..
if his card was actually using a vfat or non jounaling fs, like ext2 for datadata, then
nonjournaling file systems on SD cards under linux are known to become corrupted when power is lost or interrupted. killing apps through a task manager or power manager could do the same, if it didn't allow the write buffer to finish. also a weak sd card might misbehave, particularly if bus is overclocked as it can be in semaphore kernel.
if it isn't a journaling fs, then the blocks show up as either bad or used when they are actually empty and good. periodically running fsck might be a good strategy for him.
edit; fsck isn't included in android build or busybox, I guess. Dark3n, could you build the fsck module into your SD maid app?

Storage issue

I was tinkering round this morning and looked into my devices storage and saw that 27gb of 32gb were being used.
Did some math on my own:
Apps: 2.82gb
Music: 3.23gb
Photos: 1.12gb
Other: 19.85gb:
-Nandroids: 9gb
-Titanium Back up 1gb
2 roms: 1.5gb
Somewhere in the "Other" category something is eating up 9gb of space. I used my file explorer and couldn't pin anything that big down. I am going to offload my nandroids but I shouldn't have to.
Anyone else run into this or know what this 9gb "other" hog could be
Is there an app or system setting I am missing to ID this?
Sprint HTC One
Running: D3rpONE

Found My Screenie...

tdubbs27 said:
Found My Screenie...
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Your 'other' is really suspicious. Mine is ~7GB. I'd do a factory reset, easiest way IMO.

If you're flashing roms or doing backups with any other apps (CWM or something). I'm guessing they would go there. Check your download folder as well if you do a lot of downloading.
You may also try installing airdroid and using the desktop filemanager to whittle down your list as well.

Download Disk Usage. It shows you visually whats taking up space. It's amazing.

Thanks for advice using disk usage. I don't know why I didn't reinstall that sooner.
I did some digging and searching around the interwebs and found out this is a known issue. Other people have noticed it in droves. From my early intel: when you delete files you lose data blocks and they are marked as bad. If you ran dsk chk they would come up as corrupt. People are losing more storage space than I did.
2 solutions came up:
1. Reformat your SD: Copy everything to PC>reformat>copy everything back....time consuming but worked from what I could tell
2. There is an update that has been released overseas(asia, india, etc) that seems to fix this issue. It's a known HTC ONE issue so maybe someday I will see an update that will fix it.
If you are experiencing the same thing you can do some light reading:
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
or
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632999
Thanks for your help...

tdubbs27 said:
Thanks for advice using disk usage. I don't know why I didn't reinstall that sooner.
I did some digging and searching around the interwebs and found out this is a known issue. Other people have noticed it in droves. From my early intel: when you delete files you lose data blocks and they are marked as bad. If you ran dsk chk they would come up as corrupt. People are losing more storage space than I did.
2 solutions came up:
1. Reformat your SD: Copy everything to PC>reformat>copy everything back....time consuming but worked from what I could tell
2. There is an update that has been released overseas(asia, india, etc) that seems to fix this issue. It's a known HTC ONE issue so maybe someday I will see an update that will fix it.
If you are experiencing the same thing you can do some light reading:
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
or
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632999
Thanks for your help...
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I'm definitely going to check on this
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Also check if you are using Google play music and have a lot of playlists pinned. I believe that and movies actually show there in other.
Sent from my HTC One

I couldn't just let this rest. I like to flash roms and knew I would need strorage space for some nandroids in the future. Here are somethings I tried and had issues with.
Formatting the SD card: I could not for the life of me get this done.
-Nothing in TWRP
-Couldn't do it in windows
-Couldn't mount the sd in TWRP or regularly and get it to show up in windows file explorer as a drive to format
Eventual solution:
I formated the data in TWRP using the format data option. I copied everything over before I did it. When I came back I flashed a new rom and was still missing 7 gb. No apps, no music, nothing. SD card was empty still only showed 25 gb available.
Conclusion: I think I have some bad sectors in their somewhere. I read that I could go back completely to stock and try to star this whole process over.
One question: Can I unlock using HTCdev as many times as I want or is it a one time thing?
Anyone else in the same boat?
help...

tdubbs27 said:
I couldn't just let this rest. I like to flash roms and knew I would need strorage space for some nandroids in the future. Here are somethings I tried and had issues with.
Formatting the SD card: I could not for the life of me get this done.
-Nothing in TWRP
-Couldn't do it in windows
-Couldn't mount the sd in TWRP or regularly and get it to show up in windows file explorer as a drive to format
Eventual solution:
I formated the data in TWRP using the format data option. I copied everything over before I did it. When I came back I flashed a new rom and was still missing 7 gb. No apps, no music, nothing. SD card was empty still only showed 25 gb available.
Conclusion: I think I have some bad sectors in their somewhere. I read that I could go back completely to stock and try to star this whole process over.
One question: Can I unlock using HTCdev as many times as I want or is it a one time thing?
Anyone else in the same boat?
help...
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If you go back completely to stock, your bootloader will probably still be unlocked (unless you relock and use an RUU). The code you got to disable your bootloader the first time around will work however many times you want. To be honest though, I wouldn't be surprised if that 7GB were used by the system ROM/frameworks and I'd be even less surprised if you still found files on your SD card in a .Trashes folder or something from earlier. Formatting data tends to leave weird remnants all over the place.
Also, +1 to the Google Music thing. Definitely shows up in other for me.

Rirere said:
If you go back completely to stock, your bootloader will probably still be unlocked (unless you relock and use an RUU). The code you got to disable your bootloader the first time around will work however many times you want. To be honest though, I wouldn't be surprised if that 7GB were used by the system ROM/frameworks and I'd be even less surprised if you still found files on your SD card in a .Trashes folder or something from earlier. Formatting data tends to leave weird remnants all over the place.
Also, +1 to the Google Music thing. Definitely shows up in other for me.
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Thank you. It gives me more options and more to think about.
-Can't find anything substantial in a .trashes folder
-Dont use any Google Music services
Really wish I could truly reformat/check for bad sectors to find out if it's corrupt or just buggy...

tdubbs27 said:
Thank you. It gives me more options and more to think about.
-Can't find anything substantial in a .trashes folder
-Dont use any Google Music services
Really wish I could truly reformat/check for bad sectors to find out if it's corrupt or just buggy...
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, try running Fix permissions. It'll tell you for one if it hits any errors (because it finds files it can't change perms for), and may help with the issue (or use the Fix permissions tool in ROM Manager if you'd rather not use recovery).

Rirere said:
Do you have a custom recovery? If so, try running Fix permissions. It'll tell you for one if it hits any errors (because it finds files it can't change perms for), and may help with the issue (or use the Fix permissions tool in ROM Manager if you'd rather not use recovery).
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-Ran fix permissions in recovery: no errors everything went as it should
-Ran fix persmissions in viper rom: terminal settings: no errors everything ran as it should
Is there a way to reformat the SD card/partition? I don't think the TWRP method really reformatted it. Just erased everything.
Clockwork gives you the ability to set a swap partition but not a true reformat

tdubbs27 said:
-Ran fix permissions in recovery: no errors everything went as it should
-Ran fix persmissions in viper rom: terminal settings: no errors everything ran as it should
Is there a way to reformat the SD card/partition? I don't think the TWRP method really reformatted it. Just erased everything.
Clockwork gives you the ability to set a swap partition but not a true reformat
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Have you tried TWRP's advanced wipe? If you haven't, it's worth a shot, but I cannot stress enough that you should be careful. This is exactly the kind of problem that you can bork your phone trying to fix for no good reason.

Rirere said:
Have you tried TWRP's advanced wipe? If you haven't, it's worth a shot, but I cannot stress enough that you should be careful. This is exactly the kind of problem that you can bork your phone trying to fix for no good reason.
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Your exactly correct on the last point. I am going to keep listening and looking. I think/hope/pray the update the internationals got can be applied some way in the future and may help out a bit. Just going to have to utilize some cloud storage a little better.
it's not totally/technically broke and I am not going to do more harm.
Thanks for all your help and suggestions

I've been having the same problem, but notice something interesting. My phone said I had almost 20GB in the other category, and I didn't know why.
I downloaded disk usage to get a detail view of what's going on in my storage and I was able to clear 12GB with just deleting old downloads, TWRP backups, Titanium Backups. Still cleaning house.
Also after doing some research, the data that's stored by your apps (ext. PS3 Trophies is a 8mb download, buts it's total size is 31mb on the phone) is counted in the Other section and not part of the app data. So the more apps u have like this installed, the more likely the Other section will balloon in size.
Remember, when u remove and app, it's stored data is still in the phone storage.
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I've been having the same problem, but notice something interesting. My phone said I had almost 20GB in the other category, and I didn't know why.
I downloaded disk usage to get a detail view of what's going on in my storage and I was able to clear 12GB with just deleting old downloads, TWRP backups, Titanium Backups. Still cleaning house.
Also after doing some research, the data that's stored by your apps (ext. PS3 Trophies is a 8mb download, buts it's total size is 31mb on the phone) is counted in the Other section and not part of the app data. So the more apps u have like this installed, the more likely the Other section will balloon in size.
Remember, when u remove and app, it's stored data is still in the phone storage.
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I use disk useage but it doesn't even show my max storage space as 32gb. It shows 26gb. See Screenshot: So I have 6gb that aren't even registering as available storage. I was trying to clean out some old app storage but the space they use is so small. Would they be worth it? I think the fact I am missing 6 gb is more troubling.

I could be wrong, but doesn't the phone only have 27GB of formatted space?
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any device with internal memory will lose some. this is the exact reason i havent gotten one yet bc im praying that sprint will get the 64gb version. i will say that if they are going to advertise a device at xyz gb then they should build in the extra needed for system so we actually get what we pay for. cloud storage and otg are there but still a slight pain in the butt.
guess ill be holding on to my evo lte for another yr or so.

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cloud storage and otg are there but still a slight pain in the butt.
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Is OTG standard in Android? Does the One need to be rooted?

[Q] ExistenZ Ultra 3.1.5

Did a search but could not find this issue and cannot post on dev thread for ROM so i posting here if wrong place i sorry.
OK the issue, after updating to 3.0 of ultra i cant update any apps as it keeps spitting out "Insufficient Storage Available" which is a crock of ..........as i have 1.57GB out of a total of 5.37GB available on internal plus external sd card with 12GB available but not relevant as apps on internal with 1.57GB available. Have updated to 3.1.5 but still the same and also unable to install any apps, yet i have less apps on it now than prior the 3.0 as i was generally running under a GB space before. Memory running at about 300MB out of 840MB
Any help or pointers or criticism for not searching far and wide enough to find a answer gracefully accepted
Churchnilled

Clear playstore datas in settings/apps/all
Also reboot a few times, wipe dalvik cache and cache.

No Joy
Thank you kind Sir for your superb roms and your help.
I did as you said but am still having the same problem.
Anything else i can try?

Have you made full wipe before installing eXistenZ??
Have you made backups via CWM Recovery before??
For example I have made a backup with CWM recovery which wasn't seen by other recoveries or system himself.
I had to install CWM recovery once again and only this one seen two backups which take me about more than 2GB internal storage.
After fresh install (with full wipes, also internal storage) fresh eXistenZ + 22 apps which I have installed after I have 4.05GB free space on internal storage and no problems with install anything.

Narrowing it down a bit
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Have you made full wipe before installing eXistenZ??
Have you made backups via CWM Recovery before??
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Hi thank you for the reply,
I have not used CWM to create backup's i have only ever used Titanium but the issue is slightly different as the amount of free space is correct.
I think i have narrowed it down somewhat as i am able to install apps from Play store that have never been on the phone before the issue appears to be apps that are already on the phone can not be updated, i have uninstalled ones needing updating except for Chrome and NDR Utils as it wont allow me to uninstall them so i have frozen them for time being, i then rebooted and tried to reinstall them but even with them uninstalled it is still spitting out the "insufficient Storage" error
so my thinking is something is being left from uninstalling that is causing the issue as like i said above i can install anything else from Play store that has not been on phone before, for example i installed links2sd after it spat out the insufficient storage error for a previously installed app i tried installing again i have plenty of internal storage available for apps and it letting me install stuff that not been on phone before but wont let me update or reinstall stuff on or has been on phone before.
After doing some searching i found others having similar issues with different phones and roms etc but thus far all the solutions to those have not worked for me.
I know i could just easily wipe and start a fresh but to me thats defeating the object and takes so long even with all the backups etc, it just a real PITA to start afresh so i sooner search,read,beg,ask etc etc and exhaust every other avenue before admitting defeat and wiping.

Too much space being taken up in internal memory by 'System & other' category?

Hi All,
I am in possession of an M7 and have been surprised by how much of the internal memory is taken up just by Android and Apps; 23.67 of 32.00 Gigs have already been used, and I have not taken a single photo with my phone, uploaded music to it, etc.!
When I look in Settings > Storage I notice that most storage is being used by the 'System & other' category, which is currently consuming 19.39 Gigs!!
I have performed a little research on this before posting, and have turned of the 'Recycle Bin' in ES Explorer, removed same, and deleted the .estrongs folder using TWRP.
I can't see how my Apps could possibly take up so much space.
Can anybody assist with increasing my storage space?
Kind Regards,
Davo

That it's not normal, make a factory reset or reflash your rom.

Not normal. There are some storage analyzer apps that help you determine what precisely is using space, I use this one: com.google.android.diskusage
And if you cannot manually clean out the stuff, factory reset or flashing a ROM should fix things.. If the partitions are fked up, I have no idea how to fix that.

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If the partitions are fked up, I have no idea how to fix that.
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RUU will sort out partition problem

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RUU will sort out partition problem
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Yes, you're right. RUU is ultimate fix, but it would be nice if we could easily resize partitions.
Like, I have a debloated ROM, thrown out 2 GB of crap. So, now I have a lot of free unused space in /system partition, but no easy way to utlize it. I could of courze install more apps as system-apps, but..
Anyway, yes, RUU = Fix.