VR Bottleneck - File Size - Samsung Gear VR

Ok, by now a lot of you have spent some time with the Gear VR. Its fair to say that the quality of the vr experience has a lot to do with the visual quality. And when it comes to videos, this will also include the frame rates. But that's where I see the problem. I looked at the file sizes of the VR Intro and the Circus videos. They are about a gigabyte at 2 minutes. Now having used Milk VR, I'd say that is a lot bigger than the video files downloaded on Milk VR. So, as of now, due to storage limitations and wifi / network speeds, I don't think many videos, much less the ones we stream will be able to give us the best possible quality on the Gear VR.
Good thing is, I know the quality is possible as long as there is enough storage space. This is why I feel like some images / videos I feel that we only need 4K displays to remove the screen door effect while others I feel like we'd need 8K displays.

I believe 4k should be sufficient. It would give around 2k per eye. There are plenty movies being played in 2k digital cinemas. 8k could be better but maybe 10 years from now they be able to produce 6" 8k display. At that time direct projection onto retina of the eye going to be perfected and no need for headset like gear vr. Regular sunglasses with tiny projectors could do the job.
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darekz said:
I believe 4k should be sufficient. It would give around 2k per eye. There are plenty movies being played in 2k digital cinemas. 8k could be better but maybe 10 years from now they be able to produce 6" 8k display. At that time direct projection onto retina of the eye going to be perfected and no need for headset like gear vr. Regular sunglasses with tiny projectors could do the job.
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I thought strapping a phone to the head was sorta concerning healthwise but direct eye projection lol.

boodies said:
I thought strapping a phone to the head was sorta concerning healthwise but direct eye projection lol.
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_retinal_display
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Never heard before about them.
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I remember my first 128mb mp3 player (and also minidisc but that died out) at about 3mb per song, thats about 42 songs. I have a 128gb microsd card now for half the price of that mp3 player. It's about the same feeling for early stage tech. By the time it's mainstream this will probably not even be an issue.
For example they already have 1tb/2tb microsd cards, the delay, from memory, is because they have to build entire new facilities to fabricate them

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I remember my first 128mb mp3 player (and also minidisc but that died out) at about 3mb per song, thats about 42 songs. I have a 128gb microsd card now for half the price of that mp3 player. It's about the same feeling for early stage tech. By the time it's mainstream this will probably not even be an issue.
For example they already have 1tb/2tb microsd cards, the delay, from memory, is because they have to build entire new facilities to fabricate them
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Yeah, I remember those days. I think my first mp3 player had like 16 or 32 megabytes of memory lol. This was like back in 99 I think. Hope the time comes soon when everyone can easily download or stream 4K (or higher) videos at high quality. Wonder how much data throughput one would need. I personally download about 10 to 13 megabytes (MB) a second. It sucks watching low res (even 4k ones seem bad sometime depending on who makes them) VR videos when watching a 1080p movie with oculus cinema gives me a heck of a lot better quality of video. I think if the video quality is at least the visual quality of the matterport canyon demo it would be a good start.

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I really don't see the storage issue.. And I don't even need cloud..

I really don't understand why people need more than 16g, of course the option to have more and carry a larger collection is always good, but it's definitely enough. I think people are more worried about the feeling of "being limited". I have never used the cloud, and still don't plan to, unless it's urgent documents I need to transfer. I do plan on using it as a media consumption device- movies, ebook, shows, browsing etc.
Here's why
1) Put your music on the phone. This tab doesn't have cellular reception anyways, you will have your phone. Put all 10g's or however much music on your phone. It's easier to take out your phone, put in your pocket, and use as a mp3 player then to use a tablet anyways, much more convenient.
2) Apps will not take over 1g. So for 16g version, let's say you start from 14g. Minus apps you have 13g.
3) Ebooks, epubs, takes up basically NO space. You could put the entire collection of Game of Thrones, harry potter, hunger games, 30 books and it won't take up any space because they're all text files.
4) If you read comics, because they are big pictures, they might take maybe 2-3 g's. You can also put a small size of your favorite picture collection in it. So now we have 10 g's left.
5) Movies. A good quality movie takes 1G? You can have 5 movies on it. Why would you need more? Even on a long distance trip, will you finish all 5 movies? I don't understand the need to have your entire collection on the tablet, there's no need to put 20 movies on it, when you won't watch them all yet. We have 5g's left.
6) Television shows. Most television shows are 40 minutes long. They take up less space than movies. I watch a lot of shows- big bang theory, game of thrones, modern family. Just get the 300mb version, instead of the super HD 1g versions. It'll be enough for your 7 inch screen. With 5g, you can put 2 entire seasons of a show on your tablet. Or do like what I do, put the latest 5 episodes of different shows on it to have more variety.
That's it: now, what can you do with your 16g Nexus 7?
You have tons of books you can never finish, comics to read, 8 hours+ of movies to watch, 24+ episodes of shows to watch, and web browsing is always available.
Is this not enough? When you finish watching the movies or shows, delete them. Pretty sure the tablet will not be your only device, so refill after you finish! I think people are just greedy and want to put their entire collection of movies on it.. but I don't see why if you aren't going to watch them anytime soon. Not telling people how to use their tablets, and I understand it takes more effort to shuffle things into your tablet every once in a while. But I'm just saying, it's possible to have a 16g device and enjoy all the media consumption even without using clouds.
my bluray rips are 6GB. i'd love for you to tell me how to get 720p quality video down to 1GB.
Do you really need to watch bluray quality on a 7 inch tablet though?
Even if it was 6 g, ok, then one movie at a time then.
But really, you can put three 2g movies on the tablet and they'll be of the highest quality already. I dont think it makes that much of a difference on the 7 inch screen if you go up further.
No, i don't, but thats what i have my rips as. I'm not going to re-rip all my movies for one device. and the display is 1280x800, so 720 is the perfect resolution.
hence why OTG, or god forbid, a USB port is great. I can plug my 1TB hard drive into my Asus Transformer and i have all my media. On the Galaxy Nexus i can plug in a 32GB flash drive that can store 3-4 movies and up to 16 shows.
N7, right now. just the 16GB internal. which if the Gnex says anything, will actually only be 13GB.
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2) Apps will not take over 1g. So for 16g version, let's say you start from 14g. Minus apps you have 13g.
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You're kidding right? I have 6 gb of games and apps on my One X. I have a ton more purchased that I haven't installed just because I am trying to keep open space on my phone in case I want to load a few Slayer or Gojira albums on it. You can bet that my 16 gb N7 is going to be completely tapped for space within minutes of me getting it. I might keep 2-3 gb open for a movie or two but every other byte will be used up by games and apps.
I'm used to listening to my 20GB music collection. I don't want to split it up and download parts of it every day, I like a big playlist.
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You're kidding right? I have 6 gb of games and apps on my One X. I have a ton more purchased that I haven't installed just because I am trying to keep open space on my phone in case I want to load a few Slayer or Gojira albums on it. You can bet that my 16 gb N7 is going to be completely tapped for space within minutes of me getting it. I might keep 2-3 gb open for a movie or two but every other byte will be used up by games and apps.
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Ahh games, I forgot about that one. My biggest game is 200mb though, I guess I'm not really a games person, or haven't gotten into it yet.
But without games, how do apps take up space? Most phone apps are less than 20mb, and those are the big ones. Normal ones take like 1-4 mb.
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Ahh games, I forgot about that one. My biggest game is 200mb though, I guess I'm not really a games person, or haven't gotten into it yet.
But without games, how do apps take up space? Most phone apps are less than 20mb, and those are the big ones. Normal ones take like 1-4 mb.
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Literally the only reason why I bought this thing is for gaming. I can't wait to play the Tegra 3 version of Shadowgun on it.
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5) Movies. A good quality movie takes 1G? You can have 5 movies on it. Why would you need more? Even on a long distance trip, will you finish all 5 movies? I don't understand the need to have your entire collection on the tablet, there's no need to put 20 movies on it, when you won't watch them all yet. We have 5g's left.
6) Television shows. Most television shows are 40 minutes long. They take up less space than movies. I watch a lot of shows- big bang theory, game of thrones, modern family. Just get the 300mb version, instead of the super HD 1g versions. It'll be enough for your 7 inch screen. With 5g, you can put 2 entire seasons of a show on your tablet. Or do like what I do, put the latest 5 episodes of different shows on it to have more variety.
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I am guessing you are from the USA and forget not everyone in the world lives there?
I fly multiple times a year from Perth to Washington DC which is 3 flights of
5 hours, 14 hours and 5 hours
Does your statement still hold? 5 movies haha - more like 10-15.
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I am guessing you are from the USA and forget not everyone in the world lives there?
I fly multiple times a year from Perth to Washington DC which is 3 flights of
5 hours, 14 hours and 5 hours
Does your statement still hold? 5 movies haha - more like 10-15.
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Before you worry about running out of movies to watch, you need to worry about running out of battery. Your tablet won't last you for the entire 14 hours flight btw. Running out of movies should be the least of your concern.
Since your trip goes beyond reasonable usage of a tablet already (24 hours), it is reasonable that you will have to do more to sustain having entertainment on the tablet. You will have to stop somewhere to charge along the way. I hope the in between transfer time is long enough, otherwise your tablet will never have enough battery. I guess it is only fair that you need to bring an extra USB-OTG then.
I agree, an SD card would be very valuable for you in this instance. But I don't think a lot of people take 24 hour trips. I think for most people, 9 hours worth of movies (if you fill the 10g with all movies) should be more than enough until they can transfer files into it again.
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Before you worry about running out of movies to watch, you need to worry about running out of battery. Your tablet won't last you for the entire 14 hours flight btw. Running out of movies should be the least of your concern.
Since your trip goes beyond reasonable usage of a tablet already (24 hours), it is reasonable that you will have to do more to sustain having entertainment on the tablet. You will have to stop somewhere to charge along the way. I hope the in between transfer time is long enough, otherwise your tablet will never have enough battery. I guess it is only fair that you need to bring an extra USB-OTG then.
I agree, an SD card would be very valuable for you in this instance. But I don't think a lot of people take 24 hour trips. I think for most people, 9 hours worth of movies (if you fill the 10g with all movies) should be more than enough until they can transfer files into it again.
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Most long haul flights have power sockets in the seats especially on international flights (as long as you avoid US carriers ..shudder..) power has never been a problem.
When someone starts a thread generalizing ever users "use" of their products you have to expect this sort of response.
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Most long haul flights have power sockets in the seats especially on international flights (as long as you avoid US carriers ..shudder..) power has never been a problem.
When someone starts a thread generalizing ever users "use" of their products you have to expect this sort of response.
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not only that but a New Trent 12000 would really come in handy for those flights.
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Yeap, and that's perfectly fine.
I guess we can say if your usage is more out of the norm - e.g. you need more than 9 hours of movies in one go- then Nexus 7 isn't that good of an option for you. Or you could still always bring USB-OTG for extra storage.
But generally, for most people, 9 hours straight of movies/books/games should be able to sustain their needs. And again, we're not talking about the end-all super tablet here. This is $250, meant to be a cheap pick-up. Just saying people can still do ok with 16g, thats all.
Nandroid and Titanium backups can take a lot of space. Also, I like to be able to download new ROMs and flash from anywhere (wifi willing). Uploading/downloading from the cloud takes too long and is too inconvenient with large files. Most free cloud services have file size limitations or not much storage space. Using cloud services can be done, but it requires juggling multiple services and a lot of time wasted uploading and (re)downloading files.
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Nandroid and Titanium backups can take a lot of space. Also, I like to be able to download new ROMs and flash from anywhere (wifi willing). Uploading/downloading from the cloud takes too long and is too inconvenient with large files. Most free cloud services have file size limitations or not much storage space. Using cloud services can be done, but it requires juggling multiple services and a lot of time wasted uploading and (re)downloading files.
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lmao couldn't resist
I'd have to say, one of the reasons I really like technology in general is there are so many differing ways to use it depending on a users wants or needs.
A large portion of the music I listen to on my phone/laptop/tablet is ripped in FLAC. I'll admit, some devices definitely sound better than others, but even on my phone with my HD380 or HD595 headphones (or streaming over bluetooth via APTX, or using one of my USB DACs that I travel with on my laptop) the difference is apparent. Even my car speakers (11-speaker Harman Kardon setup) showcase the difference in audio quality.
One of the reasons I've preordered the Nexus 7 (16GB) is for car usage. Offline maps/navigation is nice for those longer trips, but it's moreso for playing my music over speakers, as well as bluetooth OBD-II connectivity and Torque. I also tend to keep a couple 720p reencoded blu-ray rips (my entire blu-ray collection is ripped without compression on my server at home) for when necessary.
Either way, I feel I'll be able to deal with only have 16GB worth of space (I'm using about 20GB for music on my phone), but I'd prefer more OR expandable storage.
One thing I've noticed with every device I've ever owned. I've filled up all available storage (current phone is 8 + 32GB, less than 10% available. Current laptop is 128GB + 128GB SSD storage, less than 10% available. Current server is 30+ TB (24x 2TB drives in Raid-Z2 in VDEVs of 8 drives each) and has 28% free because I JUST added 8 more drives to it since we had less than 1% free).
I love storage. I love data. I love technology. And I love that there are so many devices out there than can meet peoples needs.
On my Xperia play, i have a 32gb sdcard and i have almost filled that with games alone. Games like fifa need 2gb data alone...
neok44 said:
my bluray rips are 6GB. i'd love for you to tell me how to get 720p quality video down to 1GB.
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ffmpeg
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chief1978 said:
I fly multiple times a year from Perth to Washington DC which is 3 flights of
5 hours, 14 hours and 5 hours
Does your statement still hold? 5 movies haha - more like 10-15.
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Look no further than this:
http://ffmpeg.org/
You can still hit the movie bucket size quoted by OP and manage to fit more than 15 movies with decent quality - no 720p of course, but x264 can do magic
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One thing I've noticed with every device I've ever owned. I've filled up all available storage (current phone is 8 + 32GB, less than 10% available. Current laptop is 128GB + 128GB SSD storage, less than 10% available. Current server is 30+ TB (24x 2TB drives in Raid-Z2 in VDEVs of 8 drives each) and has 28% free because I JUST added 8 more drives to it since we had less than 1% free).
I love storage. I love data. I love technology. And I love that there are so many devices out there than can meet peoples needs.
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Do you have all this TB worth of data cataloged? I had love to see a high level view / snapshot. Waiting.
thunder9111 said:
Here's why
1) Put your music on the phone. This tab doesn't have cellular reception anyways, you will have your phone. Put all 10g's or however much music on your phone. It's easier to take out your phone, put in your pocket, and use as a mp3 player then to use a tablet anyways, much more convenient.
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I thought about this as a possibility.
Thing is, this is battery-inefficient for when you want to both use the tablet (say to read) and listen to music at the same time. Effectively, you're wakelocking two devices at once.
To conserve battery, I'd much rather use the tablet for doing both (even if doing so cuts down on the size of my collection). The tablet has a lot more battery to kill as well. Hence, the storage space is an issue.
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I thought about this as a possibility.
Thing is, this is battery-inefficient for when you want to both use the tablet (say to read) and listen to music at the same time. Effectively, you're wakelocking two devices at once.
To conserve battery, I'd much rather use the tablet for doing both (even if that cuts down on the size of my collection). The tablet has a lot more battery to kill as well. Hence, the storage space is an issue.
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I am an avid music listener and I don't really see that point. Listening to music on the phone hardly takes out any battery at all.. I've listened for maybe 3 hours, and it takes 10-15%? The reason is because the screen isn't on.. the screen/movies/games are the biggest battery killers. Music playback while the screen is off doesn't hurt that much. If you have your tablet for most of your gaming/browsing/movies, I think your phone would last many days and battery would not be a huge concern.
However, I'd understand why you'd want to only use 1 device at one time for convenience though.

Best movie resolution for Note 4 screen

Hi,
Just wondering if you notice any difference watching 1080p or 720p movies on your phone?
Of course screen is even bigger than fullhd.
But stil interesting does it worth copying 8GB files to my phone or not? Processing bigger files battery will suffer as well.
What resolution movies or TV series do you watch with Note 4?
Interesting question. I think in terms of CPU usage and storage, bitrate is more important than resolution.
I think for CPU I would think it's marginal, but would love to see some tests on this.
I'll probably stick with above average 720 just for storage considerations. I don't watch that many movies on phone, but that could change with my first phablet.
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bat0nas said:
Hi,
Just wondering if you notice any difference watching 1080p or 720p movies on your phone?
Of course screen is even bigger than fullhd.
But stil interesting does it worth copying 8GB files to my phone or not? Processing bigger files battery will suffer as well.
What resolution movies or TV series do you watch with Note 4?
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Loads of HD720P vids and movies on mine, and they look great, got some HD1080P which looks more detailed and 2 4K vids, those look extremely realistic.
It would make sense that the higher the resolution the better the picture, even with a ~5" screen. I mean, have you looked at the way your photos look on your screen? Beautiful.
Trinatek said:
It would make sense that the higher the resolution the better the picture, even with a ~5" screen. I mean, have you looked at the way your photos look on your screen? Beautiful.
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Of course it makes sense.
But maybe 8gb fullhd movie doesnt look so much better than 720p 2GB file of the same movie.
So I want to know have any of you really tested that.
It also impactsco the SD card size to choose.
bat0nas said:
Hi,
Just wondering if you notice any difference watching 1080p or 720p movies on your phone?
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Well I was addressing this question. And the answer I was trying to give you is: of course there are noticeable differences between 1080p, 720p and 4K quality, on the Note 4.
bat0nas said:
Of course it makes sense.
But maybe 8gb fullhd movie doesnt look so much better than 720p 2GB file of the same movie.
So I want to know have any of you really tested that.
It also impactsco the SD card size to choose.
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I'm sure you could have guessed this, an 8GB full HD movie file is not going to look "so much better" than a 720p 1.5GB movie file. But going back to my first point, of course there is a noticeable difference -- a noticeable difference. But I mean, it really comes down to your preference then doesn't it?
Summary:
4k video on your phone is gonna look better than 1080p.
1080p video on your phone is gonna look better than 720p.
The higher the resolution, the bigger the file.
Whether you feel the better quality vs file size is worth it on a 6" screen is up to you, so on and so forth.
You need to form your own opinion and/or choice.
Me personally? I go with the 1080p. I'll sacrifice some of my 64GB SD card storage on movie files since I delete the movies after I watch them anyway. The screen's too nice for me not to. Again, that's just me.
Pick up an OTG cable ..save ur movies on a hard disk and use that to watch ur movies without worrying about ur phone storage
How otg cable is related to how good movies look on Note4 screen?
Teardrop45 said:
Pick up an OTG cable ..save ur movies on a hard disk and use that to watch ur movies without worrying about ur phone storage
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I sort of wonder how that would affect battery life. The earliest portable hard drives used to require separate AC adapters. More modern ones have been able to eliminate the need for the AC adapter, but it sort of seems like they still draw a good amount of power to spin the disk inside.
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How otg cable is related to how good movies look on Note4 screen?
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Summary:
The higher the resolution, the better the picture.
The higher the resolution, the larger the video file.
The larger the video file, the less storage you have on your phone for other things.
So, what Teardrop suggested is to buy an on the go adapter and with that, carry a portable hard drive with you.
With the high capacity of storage in a portable hard drive, you can have as large of video files as you want.
(I'm not a fan of this suggestion).
yes it does affect the battery ...i have a Tab S hooked up in car and i use it to watch movies and i noticed on the Tab S the battery consumption is almost double planning to buy this LAVA SimulCharge USB 1-port Adapter for Samsung Galaxy Tab 4/S/PRO/Note - Model TL-002 (Micro USB OTG Host & Charge) hopefully then i dont have to worry about battery life
You can buy an otg y cable, and just hook a small battery bank to it, just to save your phone.
Or why not just go mad on micro sd cards, you can buy otg card readers that work well.
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Or why not just go mad on micro sd cards, you can buy otg card readers that work well.
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I'm definitely more of a fan of this idea. Buy a larger SD card or if you need, even two). Put your video files on that if you're gonna go somewhere where you'll want to kill some time with some movies/videos. Who honestly is going to want to keep their movie files on their phone after they've already watched it? That just seems silly to me *shrug*
Dude... You can watch 4k video on this phone? I'm so excited right now. Gonna download some random 4k video to try this out lolol
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It has 4k screen.. but will it play thats a different question
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It has 4k screen.. but will it play thats a different question
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Not quite, it's a 2560×1440 putting it Inbetween 4k and 1080p.
It should be called a wqhd more than anything.
My mistake. Screen is indeed not 4K.

Best Camera in any smart phone?

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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2479968,00.asp
Wow, a nice, real review. No iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone crap. I can say myself that this is the best camera on a smartphone that I have ever owned. The detail is incredible for what it is (a phone).
I really really want to buy one now for the camera, but a) trying to save right now b) my G3 is still great
Yes it's really good.
I have a lot of (real) cameras to compare it to. And no matter how good smartphone cameras get, they will never compare to a medium format with real glass obviously. Just as a bookshelf speaker cannot produce SPL and frequency response of a full sized floorstanding loudspeaker. Currently bound by the immutable laws of physics for now.
But I like what I'm seeing so far. They've come a long way.
The pro mode in the camera software is very nice. I still like FV5 and wish there was 50 ISO support.
Focusing has come a long ways too.
Have not tried recording video at a loud live music event to see how the internal mic and AGC deals with high SPLs and hard hitting bass drums. Most fail here, some really bad. The SNR and lossy compression used for audio sound decent so far with the video I've taken in normal environments. I believe they have got this sorted out since the Note 4. That was my biggest peeve with the S4 and Note 3. Awful popping in the audio. That was absent starting with the S5. The Note 4's camera was miles above the S5 and the S6 just refines that.
I have always liked Samsung Camera since the S3. I think that it has the best low light taken pictures compared to other competitors. Closest would be that of the apple and at some photos, iPhone might actually have better color balance but generally S6 is better. IMO
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Yes it's really good.
I have a lot of (real) cameras to compare it to. And no matter how good smartphone cameras get, they will never compare to a medium format with real glass obviously. Just as a bookshelf speaker cannot produce SPL and frequency response of a full sized floorstanding loudspeaker. Currently bound by the immutable laws of physics for now.
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That's like comparing a bb gun to a howitzer.
s6 so detailed its scary absolutely the best to date .
If the M9 had a chance I would have gotten that phone .
If I trade ever it would be for m9
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Some questions I have before I buy a OnePlus 3T

So I am planning on getting a 128 GB OnePlus 3T, but I have some questions.
How is a phone without a SD Card? All devices I have had so far have SD Card slots, now I store my images on there but on the OnePlus, there is no SD Card slot, so I will have to store my images on the phone, which makes me scared.
What if the phone would just die on me and I would have to reflash OxygenOS then the Data section containing my images would also be wiped? I backup my images using Google Photos but I prefer to also have the original image file, should I just make a backup on the images like every week?
And last question, I have heard that the included warranty is really bad and that it can be a little pricey when sending it to Germany for repairs, is that true?
I was in the same boat as you before I got my Oneplus 3T. All my previous phones had SD cards. I came from a 16GB S5 with a 32GB memory card running CM13. For that reason I opted to get the 128GB 3T. I have yet to try installing any custom Roms on my device but I love having all the extra storage space at my disposal.
I've used phones without an SD card slot for a while now. I honestly haven't missed it. Using google photos has been great, and then if you have to wipe the data partition of your device ever, if you use TWRP to do it, it doesn't wipe your photos or videos.
As for the warranty, I have no idea for your location, but I'm in the US and had to my warranty on my OnePlus 2. Things seemed to go about as smooth as most other companies. A couple of minor frustrations, but overall went pretty smoothly.
I purchased and received a 128GB OnePlus 3T (I'm writing this response on it actually!) and am absolutely loving it so far! I would say that this is one of my favorite devices I've ever owned, next to my OnePlus One!
How's the display in terms of quality vs QHD? And how's sound from the device?
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So I am planning on getting a 128 GB OnePlus 3T, but I have some questions.
How is a phone without a SD Card? All devices I have had so far have SD Card slots, now I store my images on there but on the OnePlus, there is no SD Card slot, so I will have to store my images on the phone, which makes me scared.
What if the phone would just die on me and I would have to reflash OxygenOS then the Data section containing my images would also be wiped? I backup my images using Google Photos but I prefer to also have the original image file, should I just make a backup on the images like every week?
And last question, I have heard that the included warranty is really bad and that it can be a little pricey when sending it to Germany for repairs, is that true?
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I moved all my files from my old phone that was backed up to my PC a day before I got this and used send anywhere to send all my music and important photos etc to my new op3T I also purchased a USB C to USB A 64 GB just to make backups for that "just in case" but Google photos and drive are great for primary backups.
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How's the display in terms of quality vs QHD? And how's sound from the device?
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On a 5.5 device or below 1080p is sufficient for normal usage of modern mobile. Maybe not VR but I'm not interested in that yet, first generation of a new bit a of tech is a waste of money to me. But coming from a Z3+ and looking at my girlfriend's Note 4 I say the display is great, a lot better than my Sony in terms of contrast but equal in colour. I think Sony make some amazing IPS displays, it I has a more balanced colour than the Samsung even without turning on sRGB. Where sound goes being 100% stock headphones are louder than my old phone and the note. The quality of the audio is actually better than it too also a lot better than the note, have to use my Fiio to get "comfortable" listening experience on my Sony. There isn't any advanced audio settings like clear audio, ds xx etc but still clear , crisp and loud enough on 32 Ohm headphones. And the bottom firing speaker took me by surprise, it gets loud for notifications and ringtones. It has got some depth if watching some YouTube at higher volumes it get very high in treble depending on what's going on. Rounded up great screen for normal non VR use, great audio from both 3.5 and speaker (surprised myself) will also be trying USB audio soon in the future. For the price it is a steal tbh it is my first OP came from iPhone 4, Xperia Z3 and Z3+ while also using Samsung s4, note 4 and LG g5 for some periods. And this is my top most enjoyable experience's yet of any phone I have had the pleasure of using.
I will add this in as my opinion but this device slides into that "Nexus" void.
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On a 5.5 device or below 1080p is sufficient for normal usage of modern mobile. Maybe not VR but I'm not interested in that yet, first generation of a new bit a of tech is a waste of money to me. But coming from a Z3+ and looking at my girlfriend's Note 4 I say the display is great, a lot better than my Sony in terms of contrast but equal in colour. I think Sony make some amazing IPS displays, it I has a more balanced colour than the Samsung even without turning on sRGB. Where sound goes being 100% stock headphones are louder than my old phone and the note. The quality of the audio is actually better than it too also a lot better than the note, have to use my Fiio to get "comfortable" listening experience on my Sony. There isn't any advanced audio settings like clear audio, ds xx etc but still clear , crisp and loud enough on 32 Ohm headphones. And the bottom firing speaker took me by surprise, it gets loud for notifications and ringtones. It has got some depth if watching some YouTube at higher volumes it get very high in treble depending on what's going on. Rounded up great screen for normal non VR use, great audio from both 3.5 and speaker (surprised myself) will also be trying USB audio soon in the future. For the price it is a steal tbh it is my first OP came from iPhone 4, Xperia Z3 and Z3+ while also using Samsung s4, note 4 and LG g5 for some periods. And this is my top most enjoyable experience's yet of any phone I have had the pleasure of using.
I will add this in as my opinion but this device slides into that "Nexus" void.
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Thank you soo much for your help. You answered my question very professional
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I moved all my files from my old phone that was backed up to my PC a day before I got this and used send anywhere to send all my music and important photos etc to my new op3T I also purchased a USB C to USB A 64 GB just to make backups for that "just in case" but Google photos and drive are great for primary backups.
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Question, is the 3T worth it according to you and should I get 128 GB or 64 GB?
Question, is the 3T worth it according to you and should I get 128 GB or 64 GB?
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It's personal choice but I went for 128GB as I have a lot of Flac music files and take a lot of pictures and videos, now I can mess with RAW too. 128 GB just gives you that headroom for the future and never worrying about storage space.
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It's personal choice but I went for 128GB as I have a lot of Flac music files and take a lot of pictures and videos, now I can mess with RAW too. 128 GB just gives you that headroom for the future and never worrying about storage space.
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What about the battery life? On my current phone I get around 1 - 2 hours SOT while just watching YouTube, Checking if my friends have sent me something on Snapchat... And using XDA.
What about the battery life? On my current phone I get around 1 - 2 hours SOT while just watching YouTube, Checking if my friends have sent me something on Snapchat... And using XDA.
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This was the other day non stop use. Just now sitting at 70% 2h 43m SOT so average around 10% an hour when using it as a phone, YouTube,music streaming Tidal. Huge improvement over my Z3+ that I had to tailer use for as it got 3-4h SOT but heat was mental and didn't game much on it because of that and this 3T I can use in whatever way I want.
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This was the other day non stop use. Just now sitting at 70% 2h 43m SOT so average around 10% an hour when using it as a phone, YouTube,music streaming Tidal. Huge improvement over my Z3+ that I had to tailer use for as it got 3-4h SOT but heat was mental and didn't game much on it because of that and this 3T I can use in whatever way I want.
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So it costs 521$ for me to get the 128 GB version, in your opinion is it worth it? And also what about the size (Coming from a S4 Mini with 4.3" screen)
If you have the money and are happy I would say go for it. My Z3+ was 5.15 but is the same surface are as the 3T so it wasn't as big as I thought you just get more screen than head and chin. It's thin and feels quality my first metal phone. Feels 10x better than the lg g5 as it has a plastic primer coat and easy to get about the screen. It is slippery though so I would advise a quality case, my go to make is spigen. And like I said quality it great I would recommend watching the jerryrig video on YouTube. It's actual sapphire on the camera
I had a 32gb note 5 that never even got half full in over 12 months. Obviously I saved a little cash and went with the 64. Mainly because when I selected 128 at checkout it looked like a longer wait. In reality I have no need for the extra 55GB of storage.
I have yet to kill the battery on my device in a day. I'm extremely expressed with the battery life so far.
One question
How much storage do you get in 128 GB version?
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One question
How much storage do you get in 128 GB version?
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113.2GB's
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113.2GB's
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S2 experience for watching videos and movies?

Hi,
I'm considering buying a tablet for media consumption (reading, browsing, emails, videos and movies) at home mostly but also for occasional travel.
I have ruled out the S3 as it's too expensive, too heavy, I don't need stylus support, and I really don't like glossy or glass finishes. I love the soft touch plastic finish of the S2 and it's incredible low weight especially the 8.0" version. The AMOLED display is stunning as well. I'm also considering the Huawei MediaPad M3, some Asus models, and maybe the iPad Mini 4 (but I have never used iOS before). I'm struggling to decide on two things:
1. 4:3 or 16:10 display?
2. 8" or larger?
Although 4:3 is great for reading it's worse for videos, and I watch a lot of video. I used to own the Galaxy Tab 7.7 (16:10) and I loved it. Great battery, lovely display and a nice size. Would watching standard widescreen (16:9) on the S2 8.0" give me at least the same video size as watching on the 7.7" (assuming no cropping and native aspect ratio)? Are there any links on the internet that show it with video playing? I have read a lot of reviews but none seem to show it playing movie clips. I just want gauge how large the letterboxing will be.
The second point is probably related too the first. I would go larger if I choose a 4:3 tablet.
Are there any tablets with 3:2 display or similar? I only know of the MS Surface tablets and the Pixel C.
Thanks
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Hi,
I'm considering buying a tablet for media consumption (reading, browsing, emails, videos and movies) at home mostly but also for occasional travel.
I have ruled out the S3 as it's too expensive, too heavy, I don't need stylus support, and I really don't like glossy or glass finishes. I love the soft touch plastic finish of the S2 and it's incredible low weight especially the 8.0" version. The AMOLED display is stunning as well. I'm also considering the Huawei MediaPad M3, some Asus models, and maybe the iPad Mini 4 (but I have never used iOS before). I'm struggling to decide on two things:
1. 4:3 or 16:10 display?
2. 8" or larger?
Although 4:3 is great for reading it's worse for videos, and I watch a lot of video. I used to own the Galaxy Tab 7.7 (16:10) and I loved it. Great battery, lovely display and a nice size. Would watching standard widescreen (16:9) on the S2 8.0" give me at least the same video size as watching on the 7.7" (assuming no cropping and native aspect ratio)? Are there any links on the internet that show it with video playing? I have read a lot of reviews but none seem to show it playing movie clips. I just want gauge how large the letterboxing will be.
The second point is probably related too the first. I would go larger if I choose a 4:3 tablet.
Are there any tablets with 3:2 display or similar? I only know of the MS Surface tablets and the Pixel C.
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Hi, my experience is that watching videos without headphones is dreadful due to the dire sound quality of the device. Hope this helps!
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Hi, my experience is that watching videos without headphones is dreadful due to the dire sound quality of the device. Hope this helps!
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Yeah, I got that impression from all the reviews that I have read. They really didn't even try with the speakers. What's the audio quality like with headphones? I'm worried that there maybe a difference between the Exynos and Snapdragon versions. There seem to be a lot of different models around.
I found a really good comparison between the Tab S 8.4 and Tab S2 8.0 on YouTube. The letterboxing isn't as bad as I thought it would be. I think I can live with that. Trying to find a good deal on the S2 8.0 Wifi version now. Seems as though only the LTE version is available in Asia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ZaifGOV2U
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I found a really good comparison between the Tab S 8.4 and Tab S2 8.0 on YouTube. The letterboxing isn't as bad as I thought it would be. I think I can live with that. Trying to find a good deal on the S2 8.0 Wifi version now. Seems as though only the LTE version is available in Asia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ZaifGOV2U
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Why not consider the Tab S? Still has the best display for video.
I wouldn't be looking at the 8.4 for media consumption the larger screen of the 10.5 makes all the difference.
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Why not consider the Tab S? Still has the best display for video.
I wouldn't be looking at the 8.4 for media consumption the larger screen of the 10.5 makes all the difference.
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That was an option but it's quite old now and not for sale anywhere where I live. I don't like to buy second hand electronics, at least not without testing it first in person. As for size, I'm not sure yet. I have a 5.1" smartphone and 12" laptop so anything between 8-10" should fit nicely. I need to spend more time playing around with display units.
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Th As for size, I'm not sure yet. I have a 5.1" smartphone and 12" laptop so anything between 8-10" should fit nicely. I)
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why you need something in between?
My Tab S2 does a fine job with video, and it really doesn't look bad at all when it letterboxes (which is practically all video these days). I will concur that external speakers or headphones are practically required, though. The built-in speaker is good for little more than notifications and background music.
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why you need something in between?
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Don't need, just want
I like to use a "smaller" smartphone in my daily life but it's not great for watching movies or extended browsing/reading. The odd YouTube clip is fine. The Windows laptop I use for work, both at home and when travelling. It's non-touchscreen. I love it and I currently use it for watching movies and browsing/reading at home, but it's not that convenient for media consumption on a casual basis.
A lightweight portable tablet (10" or less) for use around the home and on long trips would be nice. It's definitely not essential which is why I'm looking for a cheapish tablet but I don't mind spending a little more for a quality display. That's why I'm looking for a discounted S2.
Samsung S2 will make a charm
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Don't need, just want
I like to use a "smaller" smartphone in my daily life but it's not great for watching movies or extended browsing/reading. The odd YouTube clip is fine. The Windows laptop I use for work, both at home and when travelling. It's non-touchscreen. I love it and I currently use it for watching movies and browsing/reading at home, but it's not that convenient for media consumption on a casual basis.
A lightweight portable tablet (10" or less) for use around the home and on long trips would be nice. It's definitely not essential which is why I'm looking for a cheapish tablet but I don't mind spending a little more for a quality display. That's why I'm looking for a discounted S2.
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I would go with Samsung S2. Works well for me. Plus, if you want to hook up a hard drive or speakers to your tablet, you can use accessory called SimulCharge USB (aka TL-002). It provides a simultaneous access to USB devices and charging for the tablet and peripherals in the same time. Now, you can watch all night movies
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Don't need, just want
I like to use a "smaller" smartphone in my daily life but it's not great for watching movies or extended browsing/reading. The odd YouTube clip is fine. The Windows laptop I use for work, both at home and when travelling. It's non-touchscreen. I love it and I currently use it for watching movies and browsing/reading at home, but it's not that convenient for media consumption on a casual basis.
A lightweight portable tablet (10" or less) for use around the home and on long trips would be nice. It's definitely not essential which is why I'm looking for a cheapish tablet but I don't mind spending a little more for a quality display. That's why I'm looking for a discounted S2.
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I see.
I am in a (little) better position.
I have a 5,7 inch smartphone and a Surface Pro 3, 12 inch. The last is good for watching movies, although not optimal as laptop (but ok).
I was wondering if going a different route:
- (keep) the 5,7 inch snartphone
- (buy) a tablet in the 10 inch range
- (buy) a laptop in the 13-14 inch range.
Or just stay as I am ...
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I see.
I am in a (little) better position.
I have a 5,7 inch smartphone and a Surface Pro 3, 12 inch. The last is good for watching movies, although not optimal as laptop (but ok).
I was wondering if going a different route:
- (keep) the 5,7 inch snartphone
- (buy) a tablet in the 10 inch range
- (buy) a laptop in the 13-14 inch range.
Or just stay as I am ...
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Yeah, I understand. I thought about getting an SP4 before I bought my laptop. Would have negated the desire for a separate tablet. But in the end I decided to get a traditional laptop for usability as I would be using it the most and I found 2-in-1s to be a little awkward to use as a laptop and too heavy for extended tablet usage.
Maybe wait until the SP5 or updated Huawai Matebook are announced to see what they offer. Also, if you are ok with Android and Samsung, wait for the Note 8 that will likely feature a 6.4"+ display.
No perfect solution, there's always going to be a compromise. I drive myself insane sometimes trying to think about what combination of devices would be best for me and end up buying nothing. :silly: In the end I decided based on convenience and usability of the most important aspects, working and connectivity.
Really want a tablet now though
AMOLED vs IPS.. very simple answer: get the s2 Tab!
It's cheap and the display is stunning. Audio is grand with headphones.
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AMOLED vs IPS.. very simple answer: get the s2 Tab!
It's cheap and the display is stunning. Audio is grand with headphones.
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That's good to know, thanks. Don't really care about the speakers but the audio quality via the headphones needs to be high.
Once you go OLED screen for videos you never go back.
IPS backlight glow is a bad joke.
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The ostracised frustrating thing for me is that the device has stereo speakers, but there are pointing in the same direction, a really terrible waste.
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the device has stereo speakers, but there are pointing in the same direction, a really terrible waste.
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The speakers are chiefly for the LTE version of the s2 Tab. Namely phonecalls.
Seriously, who watches videos/movies on speaker while en route?
It's just wonderful in every sense. I take it with me in my back pack everywhere and I truly love it. I have a wonderful galaxy s5 too which is also great but when I have time to read and surf the web I take the tab and it's so great and light and fast that I doubt there's anything better in the market. I am writing this from the park in the grass. I use the 8" for the lightweight and comfort of holding it with one hand. I also have a very light 1kg laptop that I only use when I need to type long stuff. For bed and street always the tab s2.
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...I use the 8" for the lightweight and comfort of holding it with one hand...
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That's exactly why I'm inclined towards getting the 8" version of the S2. It's incredibly light at 265g. You can literally hold it for extended periods with the fingertips of your thumb and index finger alone. The soft touch plastic back is a refreshing change to metal and/or glass. Much easier to hold and looks better in my opinion.
It's also a really comfortable size. I was a little worried about videos being too small due to the display ratio and subsequent letterboxing but it's actually ok. The AMOLED display is gorgeous as well.
An S-Pen would make this perfect! Not important for me though.
I have pretty much decided to get this now. Just waiting a while because I sense a price drop coming when the S3 becomes available here. Although I get the impression Samsung may keep the Tab S2 series going at the same price due to the S3 not really being a direct replacement.
Thank you to everyone for your comments and input
I was a little worried about videos being too small due to the display ratio..
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It is definitely a sub 8" experience with movies that have only x800 something vertical pixel (e.g. 1920x816) so I prefer x1080 videos. But still, the display is the very best on the market; for its price.
I would not wait for a price drop.. it may very likely rise or worse be sold out soon, once people recognize its value.

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