Building (hacking) a female iPhone 30pin connector into MHL micro usb. - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm the only one in the house with an android, everyone else just got iPhone 6 (lighting connector). So that leave tons of 30 docks, adapters, chargers, car radio integration is pretty much exclusive for iPhone.
So, I have a bunch of 30pin iPhone cables (old style), is there anyway to modify a Apple 30pin into. A MHL micro usb? So. I could use the docks, probably connect to my car radio with using the headphone jack.
I've seen some adapters on eBay but there the other way around, make a male Micro USB Male [emoji144] to plug in a become a. [emoji142] female 30pin. I would want it to do the exact opposite.

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lighter adapter -- will the Motorola work?

I was looking at cla's for my tilt and was wondering if the connector on the Moto (I think it was the razor) will work with our phones.
Thanks,
Bobby
Will work, but only half the rated amp of Kaiser OEM charger. Also, I believe, it has fewer pins in USB connection.
Good for emergency use, but threads here and other forums indicate that you are better off with a dedicated Kaiser charger.
Car lighter adapter
I have the usb cable and home adapter, but since I spend a lot of time in the car I was looking for a unit for it. I do not have a need for a cradle (at least at this time) so I was just checking on the adapter.
In a car, the amperage is based upon the devices draw and protected by the size of fuse in the adapter, so that part should not be a problem. The connector is where my real concern comes in. They are both mini usb and fit the phone, but I do not know if the pins are the same or the wiring on the pins.
I did a search in the forum and no results came back. Can you link to a discussion on it or point me to a thread that this has been discussed?
Thanks,
Bobby
Actually, I believe there's a DC-DC voltage conversion going on can change the amperage available to the mini-usb connector. Make sure your adapter can deliver 1amp.
I've got one and it works fine. It might take a bit longer than one with a higher amperage, but what's the big rush?

charging MT3G abroad

im traveling to europe where they have 220V power outlets, can i use the mt3g's charger to charge the phone (provided i have the adapter for a plug) without frying the phone?
does it come with a built-in power transformer like laptops do?
check your charger. If it reads "Input 120-240V" you can safely use it anywhere in the world as long as you have plug adapter for the wall outlet. Also simple USB cable would work with any computer as well
USB Chargers are nice
I travel to India and Singapore a lot. I first purchased an Amzer USB charger that comes with all the plugs you need for international traveling. It charges all of my stuff like ipod, phone, even my PSP. But there is even one better. Amazon has a 4 port one that will take 4 usb devices at the same time. You just have to remember to take the usb cables. If you think 4 is way overkill, consider what people tend to travel with these days. I'm going for the 4 port one by Kensington next. Check it out at http://tinyurl.com/yjfbq4o .

Streak adapter for iFail Accessories...

Since the cable idea didn't work out, I decided to work on a couple of other items for the Streak.
I have spec'd out an adapter for us, so that we could use the immensely huge iFail (iphone/ipod/ipad) accessory market. Things like Speaker/radio docks, et al.
We would plug our usb end into the adapter, and the other end of the adapter is fitted with a 30 pin apple female connector. I am also adding micro/mini usb..so that the adapter can be used with more devices Please tell me what you think about the cord length.
PLEASE NOTE: In this picture, the iphone end is "male"..it would be FEMALE for us!!
How about no cable but a jack type affair on the adapter so you could plug a cable into the adapter? or a short tail with plug for cable?
Bohemian said:
How about no cable but a jack type affair on the adapter so you could plug a cable into the adapter? or a short tail with plug for cable?
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That is what I really wanted..... but it is very difficult for the factory to do, and would not be cost effective....like 5x the price (without even knowing the price yet...lol)
Muscleshop said:
That is what I really wanted..... but it is very difficult for the factory to do, and would not be cost effective....like 5x the price (without even knowing the price yet...lol)
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Great work, but I would be happy to pay the 5x the price for just a streak to iPhone adapter, aslong as it was under 25 gnome
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How many pins do you plan on passing though?
USB/Power/Line out?
I'd be interested in an adapter too.
Best would be a small Female Dock <-> Male PDMI block (but as you said it might be unreasonably expensive)
How about a Female Dock <- short cable -> Male PDMI cable? Is that the plan?
Have you inquired about a simple Male PDMI <-> micro (or mini, i forget which is which) block? Along the lines of this but with PDMI/USB. Or also as a short cable of it's not reasonable price?
If you can only do a short cord + 2 connectors like the picture, can you do just like the picture of about ~1 inch?
I'm definitely interested in seeing how this plays out
TheManii said:
How many pins do you plan on passing though?
USB/Power/Line out?
I'd be interested in an adapter too.
Best would be a small Female Dock <-> Male PDMI block (but as you said it might be unreasonably expensive)
How about a Female Dock <- short cable -> Male PDMI cable? Is that the plan?
Have you inquired about a simple Male PDMI <-> micro (or mini, i forget which is which) block? Along the lines of this but with PDMI/USB. Or also as a short cable of it's not reasonable price?
If you can only do a short cord + 2 connectors like the picture, can you do just like the picture of about ~1 inch?
I'm definitely interested in seeing how this plays out
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This current plan (still working on actual dock too, separately) is:
Female iFail 30 pin <--cable --> Female Standard USB + Female Mini USB + Female Micro USB (so it appeals to more devices)
Planning on Charging/Sync/Audio
Does that answer it?
Sounds good to me. Count me in.
May I suggest a Male PDMI -> Female USB Block/Cable for connecting USB accessories to the Streak? USB Keyboards work by default, the block would just need a short wire to connect pins 2 and 4 of the PDMI together (I believe) to activate USB Host mode.
I think it already exists. Isn't this what you are looking for: cablejive.com/products/Universal-Dock-Converter.html
still would be better for an adapter that plugged into the streak and had female micro/mini.
Something low profile that could potentially be left plugged in and left in place.
Start with a naked streak and if popular make ones for a otterbox defender/commuter, etc
TooMuchFace said:
I think it already exists. Isn't this what you are looking for: http://cablejive.com/products/Universal-Dock-Converter.html
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This is why the internet is so important...lol Thanks for finding this "unicorn"
I searched and searched and searched but could not find it, so I decided to possibly have it made. This is very similar to what I was thinking. Differrences would be the addition of mini & micro usb female connectors with my idea. Also hoping to make it sleeker with just one cord...and for a much better price.
In addition to that, this particular site says:
cablejive said:
The Universal Dock Converter is CableJive's most "hobbyist" product, and as a result we are fairly open about returns, provided you are open about how it has or hasn't worked with your setup.
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Which leads me to believe it was not very well thought out.
Muscleshop said:
This is why the internet is so important...lol Also hoping to make it sleeker with just one cord...and for a much better price.
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I'm in!
(that is all I wanted to say but I can't submit posts with less than 10 characters. See... you didn't have to read this.)
I bought the converter from cablejive. It allows the music to output but doesn't charge on the usb
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Fazziebear said:
I bought the converter from cablejive. It allows the music to output but doesn't charge on the usb
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I think this would be better if the male end is PDMI
http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockStubz.html
Muscleshop said:
Since the cable idea didn't work out, I decided to work on a couple of other items for the Streak.
I have spec'd out an adapter for us, so that we could use the immensely huge iFail (iphone/ipod/ipad) accessory market. Things like Speaker/radio docks, et al.
We would plug our usb end into the adapter, and the other end of the adapter is fitted with a 30 pin apple female connector.
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I don't see how that can work.
You need the 30-pin PDMI connector on one end, and the Apple connector on the other. Here's the Streak's pinout http://linuxslate.com/#Dell_Streak_PDMI_Pinout and here's the Apple pinout http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Apple_iPod,_iPad_and_iPhone_dock
If it's simply going to connect USB to the Apple connector, then it will only be able to pass USB's 4 pins of data and power - there'll be no video or audio output. What's more, there are already adaptors on the market for USB to Apple, like the one already mentioned http://www.cablejive.com/products/Universal-Dock-Converter.html
Both PDMI and apple dock connectors support line out for audio, only thing it wouldnt take advantage of is video out and USB-OTG
At least what i was interested in was a PDMI <-> Dock directly
This is an intriguing project. I have a question about accessory compatibility.
I've been desperately trying to work out an external, powered mic set up for the Streak. I've established that the headphone jack, like iProducts, doesn't supply phantom power. iProducts got around this by using their dataport to power attached microphones. So in theory, this solution could connect to an iMic and supply the same power.
Here's the q: Is just having a powered mic attached via dataport (through the adapter cable) enough? Or work a supporting app have to be written to tell the device that there's a mic there and also handle the supporting software to make it work?
PDMI only supplies line out from what we know, nor does it have power out.
Even if it could do both, wouldnt it drain the battery pretty quickly?
All I care for is a line out and the charging. Who gives a damn for the video and other stuff. I care more for the pure acoustic bliss.
I would like it to just lie and say its apple so my car play music from it.. using then ipod interface..

USB C to USB A cable

Don't forget about these things, unless you happen to have a USB C connector on your computer already. The 5X does not come with this cable; it only comes with a USB C to USB C cable. The 6P does, however.
$13 at Google Store
Various prices on Amazon
theplasmastorm said:
Don't forget about these things, unless you happen to have a USB C connector on your computer already. The 5X does not come with this cable; it only comes with a USB C to USB C cable. The 6P does, however.
$13 at Google Store
Various prices on Amazon
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Amazon is the better choice. I am definitely buying the Apple adapter
I'm going to need to buy quite a few of these.
I found this good deal http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...1Y50UY0J6Y59M&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
0.0 said:
I found this good deal http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...1Y50UY0J6Y59M&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
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Excellent. Thanks :good:
Hi 0.0, I was looking at that same 4 pack earlier as well. Does anyone know if USB-C to USB-A cables (these specifically, or in general I guess) will allow for data transfer when connected to a PC or can they only be used for charging?
Edit: Nevermind, it says in the product description. Thanks, ordered a set.
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I found this good deal
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Ordered, thanks for the tip!
I ordered one from Google am I the only one paranoid about pushing images through an aftermarket cable.
Panzerapple said:
I ordered one from Google am I the only one paranoid about pushing images through an aftermarket cable.
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yes.
in other news, i ordered these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W98IQ5M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
mainly because i have a ton of regular cables, and also because soon the other ends are going to be type C. At that time, i will replace all my cables, but until then, these will do.
jadeddjay said:
yes.
in other news, i ordered these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W98IQ5M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
mainly because i have a ton of regular cables, and also because soon the other ends are going to be type C. At that time, i will replace all my cables, but until then, these will do.
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Not sure why, but it states in the description of those adapters that they are for Data Sync only, doesn't say anything about them working for charging. I hope that isn't the case, but just a heads up.
Panzerapple said:
I ordered one from Google am I the only one paranoid about pushing images through an aftermarket cable.
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Jexx11 said:
Not sure why, but it states in the description of those adapters that they are for Data Sync only, doesn't say anything about them working for charging. I hope that isn't the case, but just a heads up.
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thats all i need to root it haha
probably not rated for the current for quick charging
how about a type C male to type C female? does that exist??
For what it's worth, OnePlus finally have their cables up for sale after forever promising them lol. Android Police gave it stellar reviews stating it was of the better cables available when they did their review on them. They only range from $5 to $7 but you do have to pay shipping, still probably much better quality than the generic ones selling on Amazon.
I did order 3 of them, hopefully they are good. Wish they had some that were 6 ft. though.
https://oneplus.net/type-c-cable
jadeddjay said:
in other news, i ordered these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W98IQ5M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
mainly because i have a ton of regular cables, and also because soon the other ends are going to be type C.
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Question for the community.
I rely on OTG a lot. I have a couple of Micro USB Male to USB A Female adaptors. Is there any reason that I couldn't plug a Type C Male to USB 2.0 Micro B Female adapter (like jadeddjay's item above) into the 5X, plug an existing Micro USB Male to USB A Female OTG cable into that, and then plug my standard cable into that? So:
5X <-- Type C Male to USB 2.0 Micro B Female adapter <-- Micro USB Male to USB A Female OTG <-- standard cable .
I guess it would it be safer to just get a new OTG cable with a Type C Male and USB A Female, like this one. But I'd rather get an adapter that can serve multiple functions as opposed to a new OTG cable that I will only use with one device.
Probably a dumb question, but...
I'm a little out of the tech game, and my knowledge isn't where it should be. That will probably make this a dumb question...
I am going to get a 5x, but have loads and loads of micro-usb peripherals; does anyone know if a micro-usb to type-c convertor exists? I've looked, but it's a pain to search for, as my search results always flip what i want around to type-c to micro-usb / similar.
Long story short; i'd rather not buy loads of new type-c cables, and instead would like a converter that I can plug into my existing kit, for me to then use with the type-c port on the 5x.
Does such a thing exist?
Cheers!
I'm been looking at cables since the phone was announced and I realize I've been spoiled by the cheap cables on monoprice. Hopefully they come down in price by the end of the year.
Is there a reason most A to c type are only one meter? .Best I've been able to find is 2 meter.
Would a USB extension cable work with a USB a to c?
I have a lot of charging equipment that is type a, trying to keep using it.
Why are you trying to charge your phone from more than 6 feet away?
clninja said:
Why are you trying to charge your phone from more than 6 feet away?
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Well not everyone has an outlet within 3 feet of where they are sitting. For example, when I'm sitting in my living room, my closest outlet is behind my recliner, and I like to be able to use my phone while it charges, so a 6 ft cable is very handy.
Jexx11 said:
Well not everyone has an outlet within 3 feet of where they are sitting. For example, when I'm sitting in my living room, my closest outlet is behind my recliner, and I like to be able to use my phone while it charges, so a 6 ft cable is very handy.
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I said "more"
6ft for sure is handy cause you don't want to sit against the wall.
Sounded in your original post though that you were trying to find some even longer than 6ft
Wait, why aren't people buying a micro-usb female to usb c male adapter to use existing micro usb cables and chargers?

{Review} Great USB C to Micro USB adapters!

Wanted to do a shoutout to TechMatte Inc for giving me a free sample unit of these micro usb to usb C adapters. I got them in exchange for my unbiased review. So:
First: This is a two pack for a pretty reasonable price. Right now, it's $5 a piece. Not bad.
Second: Quality: These are plastic, but very functional. I have a multitude of micro USB cables from previous phones, and it's nice to be able to have backups laying around, instead of having to buy a bunch of USB C cables now. I leave the adapter plugged into the micro usb cable, and plug the adapter into the phone. Pretty handy at making the old cables still work.
Caveats: Size. This is a plus and a minus-- they would be very easy to lose. Also, the plastic feel. These work very well, but I can also see them starting to fall apart with heavy daily use. Not sure, but it looks like they wouldn't survive abuse.
Thanks, Techmatte, for the sample, and I would recommend these adapters!
Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.
compulov said:
Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.
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I bought this four pack a while ago, and just use them around the house/ office. It reports Charging when plugged in.
Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?
aiwapro said:
Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?
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Yes.
Hey I just got these today! They are small and go charge at a decently fast pace even though it only says "charging". I like that it comes in packs of 2 so I can have one in my car and one at home.
It's only been a day, but so far I approve of these.
got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China
rickyray9 said:
got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China
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Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?
buru898 said:
Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?
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I just tested using 3 configurations:
Stock LG charger and Cable 5V3A:
"Charging Rapidly" at +2621mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to C cable:
"Charging Rapidly" at +1285mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to Micro USB cable with USB C adapter:
"Charging" at +1225mA/h
Any thoughts on what the software engineer from Google has to say about the adapter and what potential impact it may have on our devices?
I'm a Software Engineer on the Chrome OS team at Google on the Chromebook Pixel and Pixel C teams.
I bought these two USB-C to Micro USB adapters from TechMatte and found they do not work properly with the Chromebook Pixel.
Upon closer inspection by our engineering team here, we have determined that this adapter is not correctly following the USB Type C specification.
The specification can be found here :
http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_31_102015.zip
Specifically, these adapters do not charge the Chromebook Pixel 2015 because the adapters leave the C-C lines floating, where the specification requires a Rp pullup to Vbus to identify the cable as a legacy adapter or cable.
Please see the document named "USB Type-C Specification Release 1.1.pdf"
section 4.5.3.2.4 for a description of why the Rp pullup is necessary.
Please also see Section 4.11 and the following note :
1. For Rp when implemented in the USB Type-C plug on a USB Type-C to USB 3.1 Standard-A Cable
Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Standard-A Cable Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Micro-B
Receptacle Adapter Assembly or a USB Type-C captive cable connected to a USB host, a value of 56 k'
± 5% shall be used, in order to provide tolerance to IR drop on V BUS and GND in the cable assembly.
In other words, since you are creating a USB Type-C plug to a USB 2.0 Micro-B receptacle assembly, you must use a resistor of value 56k' as a pullup to Vbus. This cable does not do this.
Please let me know if there is any more information I can provide about why these adapters are problematic.
If you are a consumer looking for a cable that is compatible with Pixel, do not use this one.
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