Ir sensor test app - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've got a feeling one of the sensors on the front of this phone isn't working. I can usually position the phone at an angle to see the faint red lights from the ir sensors on only 3 of them, but the top left corner I see nothing.
The phones responsiveness seemed better when I first got it a couple months ago but doesn't seem to wake up as easily as before.
Rooted moto x 2014 running stock and xposed, unlocked bootloader
Anyone know of an app that will test ir sensors?

eqjunkie829 said:
I've got a feeling one of the sensors on the front of this phone isn't working. I can usually position the phone at an angle to see the faint red lights from the ir sensors on only 3 of them, but the top left corner I see nothing.
The phones responsiveness seemed better when I first got it a couple months ago but doesn't seem to wake up as easily as before.
Rooted moto x 2014 running stock and xposed, unlocked bootloader
Anyone know of an app that will test ir sensors?
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Turn off your lights, or use a camera from about 10 inches away and look very closely at your phone and you can actually see the emitters working with your own eyes. They turn on when Display is off, and the moment Display turns on, the emitters turn off. There are 3 emitters total- two at the bottom and one just to the right of the earpiece. Their purpose is to essentially bathe your hand in IR light, which the sensor (to the left of the earpiece) then detects. That's how the system works. When documentation states that there are 4 low power sensors, it's really just for the layman who wouldn't necessarily understand the actual way it works without it being explained. Yes there are 4 devices on the face of the phone to make it work, but only one of them is an actual sensor, the other 3 are emitters. Hence, the 3 bright and less frequency blinking lights. If you use a camera, you can see the fainter 4th light, which is the actual sensor. When the sensor detects a slight fluctuation in it's readings, it causes the 3 emitters to stay on constantly instead of blinking for a couple of seconds thereby increasing the chances of detecting the hand. If you're still enough you can see the 3 emitters going back to blinking to save battery.
Approaching the phone from a very less height, will not cause the IR to be deflected to the sensor to the top of the phone. When you reach for the phone, your hand needs to be high enough from it when you come in from the bottom that it is within the sensor's field of view. Otherwise it won't work. It seems that 3-4 inches is the lower limit. Anything closer than that and it won't pick up your hand until it's closer to the top of the phone.

That's great news that it isn't malfunctioning. I was worried that xposed was causing a problem. Only reason I'm not upgrading to 5.0 is because of xposed.

manrock said:
Turn off your lights, or use a camera from about 10 inches away and look very closely at your phone and you can actually see the emitters working with your own eyes. They turn on when Display is off, and the moment Display turns on, the emitters turn off. There are 3 emitters total- two at the bottom and one just to the right of the earpiece. Their purpose is to essentially bathe your hand in IR light, which the sensor (to the left of the earpiece) then detects. That's how the system works. When documentation states that there are 4 low power sensors, it's really just for the layman who wouldn't necessarily understand the actual way it works without it being explained. Yes there are 4 devices on the face of the phone to make it work, but only one of them is an actual sensor, the other 3 are emitters. Hence, the 3 bright and less frequency blinking lights. If you use a camera, you can see the fainter 4th light, which is the actual sensor. When the sensor detects a slight fluctuation in it's readings, it causes the 3 emitters to stay on constantly instead of blinking for a couple of seconds thereby increasing the chances of detecting the hand. If you're still enough you can see the 3 emitters going back to blinking to save battery.
Approaching the phone from a very less height, will not cause the IR to be deflected to the sensor to the top of the phone. When you reach for the phone, your hand needs to be high enough from it when you come in from the bottom that it is within the sensor's field of view. Otherwise it won't work. It seems that 3-4 inches is the lower limit. Anything closer than that and it won't pick up your hand until it's closer to the top of the phone.
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Wow, way to blatantly plagiarize my post without quoting me and giving me credit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/ir-sensors-t2963401
_MetalHead_ said:
I'm telling you, it's the case. Turn off your lights and look very closely at your phone and you can actually see the emitters working with your own eyes. They turn on when Moto Display is off, and the moment Moto Display turns on, the emitters turn off. There are 3 emitters total- two at the bottom and one just to the right of the earpiece. Their purpose is to essentially bathe your hand in IR light, which the sensor then detects. That's how the system works. When documentation states that there are 4 low power sensors, it's really just for the layman who wouldn't necessarily understand the actual way it works without it being explained. Yes there are 4 devices on the face of the phone to make it work, but only one of them is an actual sensor. Like I said, the other 3 are emitters.
All that said, when you reach for the phone, your hand needs to be high enough from it when you come in from the bottom that it is within the sensor's field of view. Otherwise it won't work. It seems that 3-4 inches is the lower limit. Anything closer than that and it won't pick up your hand until it's closer to the top of the phone.
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manrock said:
Turn off your lights, or use a camera from about 10 inches away and look very closely at your phone and you can actually see the emitters working with your own eyes. They turn on when Display is off, and the moment Display turns on, the emitters turn off. There are 3 emitters total- two at the bottom and one just to the right of the earpiece. Their purpose is to essentially bathe your hand in IR light, which the sensor (to the left of the earpiece) then detects. That's how the system works. When documentation states that there are 4 low power sensors, it's really just for the layman who wouldn't necessarily understand the actual way it works without it being explained. Yes there are 4 devices on the face of the phone to make it work, but only one of them is an actual sensor, the other 3 are emitters. Hence, the 3 bright and less frequency blinking lights. If you use a camera, you can see the fainter 4th light, which is the actual sensor. When the sensor detects a slight fluctuation in it's readings, it causes the 3 emitters to stay on constantly instead of blinking for a couple of seconds thereby increasing the chances of detecting the hand. If you're still enough you can see the 3 emitters going back to blinking to save battery.
Approaching the phone from a very less height, will not cause the IR to be deflected to the sensor to the top of the phone. When you reach for the phone, your hand needs to be high enough from it when you come in from the bottom that it is within the sensor's field of view. Otherwise it won't work. It seems that 3-4 inches is the lower limit. Anything closer than that and it won't pick up your hand until it's closer to the top of the phone.
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Hey that's Bs bro to take someone else post and try to make it look like it was your. Very unprofessional I may say so myself

ewalk4866 said:
Hey that's Bs bro to take someone else post and try to make it look like it was your. Very unprofessional I may say so myself
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Yeah man, it's rude as hell. Appreciate the support.
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eqjunkie829 said:
That's great news that it isn't malfunctioning. I was worried that xposed was causing a problem. Only reason I'm not upgrading to 5.0 is because of xposed.
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Yeah, you're fine. A few people were confused about how the IR system works, so you aren't alone. And agreed about Xposed. Both my Moto X and Nexus 5 are still on 4.4.4 because I think KK+ Xposed blows Lollipop out of the water. The only way I'll switch to Lollipop is when I buy a new phone that ships with it.

I am bumping this thread so people can see what not to do on XDA. Taking someone else's post and trying to pass it off as your own is not cool, and is very rude and disrespectful. What @manrock has done here is a smack in my face. He clearly tried to pass my post off as his own by adding his own words to it, and didn't cite/quote me as the original source of the information. Ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know the answer to a question, either don't post at all, or make it clear that the answer you are giving is not your own, and give credit where credit is due.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I am bumping this thread so people can see what not to do on XDA. Taking someone else's post and trying to pass it off as your own is not cool, and is very rude and disrespectful. What @manrock has done here is a smack in my face. He clearly tried to pass my post off as his own by adding his own words to it, and didn't cite/quote me as the original source of the information. Ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know the answer to a question, either don't post at all, or make it clear that the answer you are giving is not your own, and give credit where credit is due.
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Ok, first off, my apologies for not mentioning you being the source of information. I was too lazy to jump into the other thread to get your name again.
Now that we've got that out of the way, I don't understand why are you being so sentimental about this. You bumped the thread yesterday, bumped it today, you even sent me a frickin PM. To prove what????
I understand what I did was a mistake, and i apologise again, but you seem so tied up with me "STEALING" your reply, you're forgetting the reason why I did it. It was to help someone, not to show myself off. It seems what pissed you off is the fact that I didn't give you credit. And as I understand, that is of paramount importance to you. But is it even more important than the purpose for which the forum was built, to help others. Is it so important that you have to rant about it, spamming the forum.
If it is, then I apologise. again.. I'm now gonna go thank one of your posts, cause from your rants you've insinuated, i was trying to steal one from you. I don't wanna owe you anything and risk another rant . Have a good day

manrock said:
Ok, first off, my apologies for not mentioning you being the source of information. I was too lazy to jump into the other thread to get your name again.
Now that we've got that out of the way, I don't understand why are you being so sentimental about this. You bumped the thread yesterday, bumped it today, you even sent me a frickin PM. To prove what????
I understand what I did was a mistake, and i apologise again, but you seem so tied up with me "STEALING" your reply, you're forgetting the reason why I did it. It was to help someone, not to show myself off. It seems what pissed you off is the fact that I didn't give you credit. And as I understand, that is of paramount importance to you. But is it even more important than the purpose for which the forum was built, to help others. Is it so important that you have to rant about it, spamming the forum.
If it is, then I apologise. again.. I'm now gonna go thank one of your posts, cause from your rants you've insinuated, i was trying to steal one from you. I don't wanna owe you anything and risk another rant . Have a good day
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It's because you CLEARLY tried to pass off my reply as your own. You weren't too lazy to search for an answer, copy mine, and add to it, but you were too lazy to cite me as your source? Right. You could have just copy/pasted the link to the thread that my answer was in, that's what most people would have done. But instead, you wanted to post it as your own response. However you want to look at it, it's a load of crap. And don't worry about thanking one of my posts, I get enough thanks without copying other people and having to ask for them in my signature.

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I get enough thanks without copying other people and having to ask for them in my signature.
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Considering the fact that that's all you care about, I'd say you've got a great thing going.

manrock said:
Considering the fact that that's all you care about, I'd say you've got a great thing going.
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Right, says the guy who asks for them in his signature. What I do care about is when I take the time out of my day to type up a thorough response to someone's question, and someone else comes along, copies it verbatim, and passes it off as their own. Go ahead and keep deflecting, it doesn't change the fact that you're dishonest and like to take credit for other people's work.
I'm done now, feel free to get the last word in.

eqjunkie829 said:
That's great news that it isn't malfunctioning. I was worried that xposed was causing a problem. Only reason I'm not upgrading to 5.0 is because of xposed.
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OMGoodness..seems as thow a thread cleaning is @ hand..

_MetalHead_ said:
Wow, way to blatantly plagiarize my post without quoting me and giving me credit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/ir-sensors-t2963401
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Dude, we all share info and re-share it. That's what's so great about this community. I know what I know from learning from others, and I try to help others with that info by re-sharing it. I don't feel obliged to credit those who have made "discoveries" and neither should others. UNLESS, it's code where the author has specifically requested permission to recycle it. I mean, when would your "patent" expire in the future, where you wouldn't feel offended that others recycled what you contributed - 1 month, 1 year, 10 years?

floepie said:
Dude, we all share info and re-share it. That's what's so great about this community. I know what I know from learning from others, and I try to help others with that info by re-sharing it. I don't feel obliged to credit those who have made "discoveries" and neither should others. UNLESS, it's code where the author has specifically requested permission to recycle it. I mean, when would your "patent" expire in the future, where you wouldn't feel offended that others recycled what you contributed - 1 month, 1 year, 10 years?
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Re-sharing info is one thing, but that's not what was done here. I'm actually surprised that you don't see how it can be taken as disrespectful. Whatever though, it's done and over with and I have no interest in getting into another conversation over it.

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[WISH] Xenon flash accessory for X1

Does anyone else also wish there was a xenon photo flash accessory for X1? I used to have one for my W800i and it worked great. Not sure why there is a complete absence of these for WM devices. I think iPhone's getting one.
I've considered rewiring the W800 flash, but it seems like a mostly impossible task.
I've also searched for registry entries to make the photo light brighter (impossible?) when pictures are taken, but came up empty.
Anyone else have any bright ideas?
ring-bearer said:
Does anyone else also wish there was a xenon photo flash accessory for X1? I used to have one for my W800i and it worked great. Not sure why there is a complete absence of these for WM devices. I think iPhone's getting one.
I've considered rewiring the W800 flash, but it seems like a mostly impossible task.
I've also searched for registry entries to make the photo light brighter (impossible?) when pictures are taken, but came up empty.
Anyone else have any bright ideas?
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Rewiring them won't work. Increasing the brightness on the built-in LED will destroy your phone.
You could buy a separate flash device, but those are fsking expensive.
Best option: Don't use X1 for proper photo's, buy a camera.
sure, i have another camera, but it's not always in my pocket when i'm at the pub at 1am and a kodak moment arises!
anyway, increasing the led brightness for 200 milliseconds is quite unlikely to destroy the phone. (increaing it for 5 minutes is the cause of melted housings etc and that's a different story). i just doubt it's possible outside of some pretty fancy programming, and it may even be impossible.
but if anyone had suggestions for how to increase led brightness when the flash discharges, i'd be willing to be the sacrificial lamb.
Ha ha... well is seems like damn near nobody is interested in a xenon flash. Guess I got my answer as to why no one manufactures such an accessory!
ring-bearer said:
Ha ha... well is seems like damn near nobody is interested in a xenon flash. Guess I got my answer as to why no one manufactures such an accessory!
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I'm interested in BUILT-IN Xenon flash. I have done my share of pics in clubs and bars and the quality is so-so at best. Pics are good enough to not make me take my camera .
orelsi said:
I'm interested in BUILT-IN Xenon flash. I have done my share of pics in clubs and bars and the quality is so-so at best. Pics are good enough to not make me take my camera .
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Yeah, me too. Wish there was a built in xenon flash but as far as I know there's not a single WinMo device with such a thing.
Iphone has (or will have) a case that has a built in xenon flash, which would be nice.
I have an electrical engineering friend specializing in LED technology so maybe I'll ask what would happen if we doubled the voltage going through the X1 LED for 200 ms. Still I would have no idea how to make it happen. Maybe I could ask the guy who made hTorch...
I'm interested
Hi, I'm interested too, in fact, I'm interested in anything that can make my Xperia Camera better, I make a post here:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519754
Try to aks your friend quickly, I think that is possible and do not damage the xperia because it is just I little
Theres already a power mode function which is currently provided by hTorch tool.
In my opinion the led gets extremely bright when activating this.
Ontop i think, that the htc cam soft needs led support.
Jealousy said:
Theres already a power mode function which is currently provided by hTorch tool.
In my opinion the led gets extremely bright when activating this.
Ontop i think, that the htc cam soft needs led support.
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the "exrtra bright" u mentioned gets activated the moment u take the photo
i stongly disadvise any of u using the htorch or tuning up the flash anyways , i got mine busted and another guy too , its a really weak flash module
Well I have to send my X1 to have the LED repaired anyway, because it shifted position, so I'd be happy to torture test the LED to see how high it can go. But I bet that changing brightness during a picture would mean changing a dll file or something, and that's beyond my abilities.
ring-bearer said:
Well I have to send my X1 to have the LED repaired anyway, because it shifted position, so I'd be happy to torture test the LED to see how high it can go. But I bet that changing brightness during a picture would mean changing a dll file or something, and that's beyond my abilities.
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ye mine too got shifted , but to the point that it blocks the vibra motor from vibrating so i have to get it fixed sometime
souljaboy said:
ye mine too got shifted , but to the point that it blocks the vibra motor from vibrating so i have to get it fixed sometime
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Holy Hell! That happened to me aswell!
Can't really be arsed to get it repaired though, I got two sets of phone insurance, One with the bank and one with vodaphone.
I keep dropping the blithering thing, I've dropped it so much the circuitry is exposed
People still want to buy my phone off me in that condition aswell. Lol
asdf204 said:
this is my phtos for X1
我英语不好,别笑话,希望大家多帮助我提高英语水平
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Ni hao, pongyou. Looks like you need a xenon flash for your night shots!

Would you return this phone? (Video)

Please watch the following video of my screen and tell me I'm not crazy for wanting to return this based on it's screen which seems to be flickering between cold and warm hues. If you watch the grey areas carefully you can see it switching between having a blue tint, to having more of a red tint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fmraqenxno&feature=youtu.be
I'm worried that because the issue is so slight they won't accept the return, what do you guys think? Is it obvious to you? A fault is a fault right?
I found someone that also has the same problem!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-mVWkBK41I
First of all, no offense, but that video is mostly blurry.
Secondly, I think it looks fine. By all means, return 10 of them until you get the perfect unit, but it looks fine as per your grainy video. Yes I watched in 1080p.
It seems people are so over obsessive about every little bitty thing about phones these days. It looks fine to me.
Maybe u set your setting to Auto adjust screen power.
Try disable it Setting>Display>Auto adjust screen power.
See if the problem solved.
It's already disabled - thanks for the suggestion though. Why should someone put up with a screen that's changing colour temperature constantly? Secondly I'd rather not take the risk of this developing into a larger problem in six months and end up with £500 mess of a phone. Also it doesn't matter that the video is blurry is it pertains to colour not clarity. If the first video isn't clear enough take a look at the second, the problem is very obvious in that one.
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It's already disabled - thanks for the suggestion though. Why should someone put up with a screen that's changing colour temperature constantly? Secondly I'd rather not take the risk of this developing into a larger problem in six months and end up with £500 mess of a phone. Also it doesn't matter that the video is blurry is it pertains to colour not clarity. If the first video isn't clear enough take a look at the second, the problem is very obvious in that one.
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Not to be rude, but just because you see some blue->red change (very slight, I couldn't even see it) on your screen, that makes the phone A MESS? Wow... Not to mention you have a 24 month warranty on it and if you have a problem with in in the next 23 months you can take it back to either get it fixed or have it replaced.
If the phone doesn't satisfy you, PLEASE return it. There is no need to post here and ask for advice if you think the phone will be a mess in a few months because of a slight color change (in your eyes, once again, I didn't see it). You should do what you think best. I really don't think you should take people's opinions into account if you believe your phone will not satisfy you. It's a personal choice.
I for one LOVE this phone! It's the greatest phone I've had since my SGSII lol.
lol zkyevolved you mad?
OP is just asking for peoples opinion
zkyevolved said:
Not to be rude, but just because you see some blue->red change (very slight, I couldn't even see it) on your screen, that makes the phone A MESS? Wow... Not to mention you have a 24 month warranty on it and if you have a problem with in in the next 23 months you can take it back to either get it fixed or have it replaced.
If the phone doesn't satisfy you, PLEASE return it. There is no need to post here and ask for advice if you think the phone will be a mess in a few months because of a slight color change (in your eyes, once again, I didn't see it). You should do what you think best. I really don't think you should take people's opinions into account if you believe your phone will not satisfy you. It's a personal choice.
I for one LOVE this phone! It's the greatest phone I've had since my SGSII lol.
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Not to be rude, but read more carefully. I never said the colours currently make the phone a mess. I said that what is initially a small problem could turn into a larger one in time - why would anyone in their right mind take such a risk by not returning? The secondary reason I posted is because I thought others might have similar problems - and indeed they do, and now we have a thread relating to this SPECIFIC screen problem. It's documented, it's not useful to you, but it might be to one of the other people that will inevitably experience the same problem.
Upgrade to the kl7 update if it is available over the air. It will fix the hue problem in changing colour when scrolling. This way you still have warranty. If it doesn't work return the unit.
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DPMAce said:
lol zkyevolved you mad?
OP is just asking for peoples opinion
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Mad? Not at all! I find it funny, that's all. If I am not satisfied with my phone, I'd return it. I wouldn't look to others to help me with it. Not to mention, we can't know how it will be in 6 months because no one has had this phone that long to know if it will turn into something more serious.
zombizombi said:
Not to be rude, but read more carefully. I never said the colours currently make the phone a mess. I said that what is initially a small problem could turn into a larger one in time - why would anyone in their right mind take such a risk by not returning? The secondary reason I posted is because I thought others might have similar problems - and indeed they do, and now we have a thread relating to this SPECIFIC screen problem. It's documented, it's not useful to you, but it might be to one of the other people that will inevitably experience the same problem.
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I never said it was a current mess, sounds like you could also read a little bit more carefully .
zkyevolved said:
Not to be rude, but just because you see some blue->red change (very slight, I couldn't even see it) on your screen, that makes the phone A MESS? Wow... Not to mention you have a 24 month warranty on it and if you have a problem with in in the next 23 months you can take it back to either get it fixed or have it replaced.
If the phone doesn't satisfy you, PLEASE return it. There is no need to post here and ask for advice if you think the phone will be a mess in a few months because of a slight color change (in your eyes, once again, I didn't see it). You should do what you think best. I really don't think you should take people's opinions into account if you believe your phone will not satisfy you. It's a personal choice. .
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From the screen issues thread there are a multitude of different issues, ranging from black blocks in videos, banding, changing in hues of colors (which a lot of people are claiming has disappeared in the newest KL7 rom just released), etc. It's a very generic thread only specific to the screen itself.
Regardless, I understand your point. I'm sure a lot of people will find it helpful. All I was implying is that if YOU are not happy with the phone then YOU should return it. I personally didn't see much of a change in your videos, but if it's something that bugs you, then you should return it! No one can tell you how it will evolve because no one has had this phone for more than 2 months. So in 18 it could be the worst experience ever, or it could be exactly the same, or it could get fixed with software enhancements. I don't know. Sorry if it sounded as if I were mad, or offensive, it wasn't my intention. All I wanted to express was that if you weren't happy with it, then you should do what makes YOU comfortable, and not what others say here.

How to make the Note 4 fingerprint scanner 6 times more accurate

Hey everyone! I've noticed a lot of posts about people having a hard time using the fingerprint scanner so I figured I'd put together a quick video on how to make the fingerprint scanner up to 6 times more accurate. I've done this and I never have issues with using it anymore. Being XDA forums I'm sure a lot of you are already familiar with this method, but I can see that there are still many who don't know it yet. I hope this helps!
Incorrect link..
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Incorrect link..
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Are you sure? When I click the video it starts playing the fingerprint scanner tutorial. What video do you see when you click it? I'm wondering if the link included the playlist and it somehow skipped the first video for you.
I already made a post about the fingerprint scanner earlier.
You can see the topic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-fingerprint-scanner-bad-inaccurate-t2919453
And also, it's better to register the fingerprints with different angles on one finger, because it's not always that you are going to hold the phone exactly the same each time you takes up the phone in your hands.
On second link it's is OK. I'm setup and looks good. I will try more tomorrow. Thx.
Tested that, the accuracy is still ****ty. I think it might be software issue or some people have fingers that are not compatible with Samsung.
Apple finger is a disease closely related to gangreen
Magnesus said:
Tested that, the accuracy is still ****ty. I think it might be software issue or some people have fingers that are not compatible with Samsung.
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Try testing the fingerprint hardware *#0*# Senor > 2nd from bottom FingerPrint test> NormalScan.
All Test should result in a PASS or maybe your hardware is faulty.
*You have to scan your finger immediately when you see Ready
TacticalMissions said:
Hey everyone! I've noticed a lot of posts about people having a hard time using the fingerprint scanner so I figured I'd put together a quick video on how to make the fingerprint scanner up to 6 times more accurate. I've done this and I never have issues with using it anymore. Being XDA forums I'm sure a lot of you are already familiar with this method, but I can see that there are still many who don't know it yet. I hope this helps!
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Tom-Helge said:
I already made a post about the fingerprint scanner earlier.
You can see the topic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-fingerprint-scanner-bad-inaccurate-t2919453
And also, it's better to register the fingerprints with different angles on one finger, because it's not always that you are going to hold the phone exactly the same each time you takes up the phone in your hands.
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I've tried both methods. The video in this thread was viewable yesterday but not today. But anyway, I set the thumb with the angled swipe like holding single handed but it's actually two handed. As the video suggested for thumb swiping, I focused on part of the thumb each sweep using the thumbnail and button as a reference. Then setup another thumb print using the fleshiest part of the thumb. The index finger seemed to be most accurate with the vertical sweep but now thumb is just as accurate using the method suggested here. There is another sensor test where you can swipe to see readings of your scanner with programmed fingerprints (dial *#0*# then scan button is middle of third row, scroll down to Fingerprint test/Normalscan). Seems I have to hit back 3x to actually back or exit the test mode.
I think over time, a better method will be learned. Seems you have to train your brain for the most consistent swipe but sometimes the first swipe just cleans the scanner or I'm just scanning too quickly when prompted. Maybe both apply? Seems fairly accurate but I've disposed of a lot of scans and programmed new ones with trial and error. FWIW, for me, the thumb works best with the angled sweep. That may change.
I wonder if the reverse direction sweep is method to test each fingerprint saved? If fails, try to program until works.
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No way in hell I'm giving Samsung my finger prints.
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No way in hell I'm giving Samsung my finger prints.
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Yeah, because the government doesn't already have them
Joey121215 said:
Yeah, because the government doesn't already have them
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They don't (unless you've been arrested), but please tell me how you believe they do. Expecially governments and agency's other countries.
ciscostud said:
They don't (unless you've been arrested), but please tell me how you believe they do. Expecially governments and agency's other countries.
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Yeah, you're right, that's the only time they take your fingerprints. They never do prints when people are born or at the DMV or at theme parks or a hundred different other points in your life. I'm pretty sure I even had to do them at school once. If the government or a corporation wanted your fingerprints, they wouldn't need a phone to get them. Honestly, how paranoid are you? What the hell do you think they're even going to do with your fingerprints? Unless you've committed a crime, what are you afraid of? Them unlocking your phone?
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Yeah, you're right, that's the only time they take your fingerprints. They never do prints when people are born or at the DMV or at theme parks or a hundred different other points in your life. I'm pretty sure I even had to do them at school once. If the government or a corporation wanted your fingerprints, they wouldn't need a phone to get them. Honestly, how paranoid are you? What the hell do you think they're even going to do with your fingerprints? Unless you've committed a crime, what are you afraid of? Them unlocking your phone?
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I am right, like I stated from your first reply. The government does not already have your fingerprints. My 'foot' was printed when born never at a DMV or Disneyland.
Point being...If you thinking the US government aleady has detailed database already of every USA citizen you're wrong.
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I am right, like I stated from your first reply. The government does not already have your fingerprints. My 'foot' was printed when born never at a DMV or Disneyland.
Point being...If you thinking the US government aleady has detailed database already of every USA citizen you're wrong.
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Time for a new tin foil hat I believe!
I doesn't really matter. A scanner that reads a stripe at a time is never going to be as precise as TouchId which takes a photo and doesn't depend on motion. I've tried 'training' my Note 4 sensor many times and it never works reliably, and in the end its just frustrating.
Dingchow said:
Try testing the fingerprint hardware *#0*# Senor > 2nd from bottom FingerPrint test> NormalScan.
All Test should result in a PASS or maybe your hardware is faulty.
*You have to scan your finger immediately when you see Ready
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All tests results on my Note 4 are "pass". Setting up the fingerprint is no problem at all, almost 100% of the fingerprints are registered the first time. Used different directions and angles, one thumb 6x. But when it comes to actually using the fingerprintscanner it's terrible. Sometimes one swipe is enough to unlock the device. Most of the time (appr. 8/9 out of 10 times) I need two or more (up to 5/6) swipes. For me absolutely useless. The fingerprintscanner was one of the reasons I bought the note 4 but i've switched of the use of this scanner.
Agree, not an Apple fan boy but had a iPhone 6 plus for a while. That fingerprint unlock was amazing. So easy. I'm going to use a pin again.
My fingerprint reader actually worked pretty good till the FR hardware crashed.
sent from my Note4
My scanner works just fine, I dunno why so many people are having issues with it. I get some mis-reads when I swipe it wonky but it works beautifully 99% of the time. Its one of the biggest reasons I bought this phone.

Replacement = Even more problems.

Had a n6 with half purple screen and had it exchanged.
This new one is horrible ..
It seems to get really warm compared to the other and when it does, boy does it lag. Just typing this out, it's lagging.
I also noticed that my Bluetooth has "silence" spots while listening to music. Every 2-3 minutes, it will stop for a split second like it can't buffer, even if the music is on the device.
Another thing that may just be me, it seems the keyboard doesn't predict as well, like it's not even touching the keys I'm swiping.
Lastly, half the screen is white and half is a really yellow color. Very irritated by this device. Makes me want to throw it against a wall.
Your first problem can be resolved by using a custom kernel that does not use mpdecision. Mpdecision is known to be power inefficient and sends your CPU to be sitting in wasteful frequencies causing your phone to generate additional heat. My phone became really warm with mpdecision on.
Secondly, I don't use bluetooth so I can't comment.
Third. That isn't a N6 problem, its a problem with the software of the keyboard application that you're using. SwiftKey works great for me.
Fourth, can't really comment on that. My screen looks good, your phone should be uniformly the same color, you can try changing RGB and see if it would do anything. I recommend turning off adaptive brightness.
Good suggestions I suppose.
Only problem with those, I'm not gonna root or use a custom kernel. The last n6 only had a faulty screen and no other problems. That one didn't need any custom root activities.
20degrees said:
Good suggestions I suppose.
Only problem with those, I'm not gonna root or use a custom kernel. The last n6 only had a faulty screen and no other problems. That one didn't need any custom root activities.
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If you don't root, or use ROM's then why post about it on a developer forum? I'm not trying to be rude just wondering why here. If it has more issue call moto and have them send a new one. My RMA phone is fine 0 issues so far and I'm happy with it.
This is a user forum as well as a developer forum.
I'm posting here to show there is problems with these phones.
Why does it matter to you?
If you are having those problems on stock, and don't want to root/etc, then your only option is to return it again. Pretty simple.
If you are looking for confirmation that your experience isn't 'normal' on the stock phone, I can confirm it is not.
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This is a user forum as well as a developer forum.
I'm posting here to show there is problems with these phones.
Why does it matter to you?
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I'm not trying to argue at all I was just curious. I would have the phone replaced if you want to gave those issues fixed without modifying the phone. Best of luck with the issues because it's not fun when you can't fix them.
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If you don't root, or use ROM's then why post about it on a developer forum? I'm not trying to be rude just wondering why here. If it has more issue call moto and have them send a new one. My RMA phone is fine 0 issues so far and I'm happy with it.
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I scratch my head also. XDA is a developer's forum. There are tons of other sites more suitable to those not wanting to root/ROM it up.
Sounds good. Let's discuss dbrand skins and the such.
I doubt this has anything to do with memory leaks or anything that's been discussed on lollipop.
I'd say you have a faulty SOC and I would replace it. My wife had similar issues on an S5 where it would stutter and fall behind almost and get warm. The icing on the cake was while taking video, normal 1080p video, and it would drop frames like crazy. Maybe 22fps or so was al, it was getting.
I actually agree with 20degrees on this one... There are tons of non development/customization threads on here, and XDA has a pretty knowledgeable user base so it is a convenient one stop shop for info.
People just need to ignore/keep their comments to themselves in the Q&A and general sections if they have nothing constructive to add to the topic of the thread.

Touch input blocked

At times when i unlock my phone i get this message stating my touch input is locked. How do i fix this?
Androidwarrior said:
At times when i unlock my phone i get this message stating my touch input is locked. How do i fix this?
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The function prevent accidently part of body skin touches the phone screen when the phone in pocket. To disable, go to Display > Block Accidental touches.
Androidwarrior said:
At times when i unlock my phone i get this message stating my touch input is locked. How do i fix this?
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Something is covering the sensor on the top of the phone. Either clean it and make sure nothing is covering it when you wake your phone or disable the block accidental touches feature
Androidwarrior said:
At times when i unlock my phone i get this message stating my touch input is locked. How do i fix this?
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Not to be a jerk but you could've answered your own question by simply using the search function in settings. Before you could fully type "Touch input" it will have narrowed it down to the setting you were looking for.
That setting search function is an awesome tool with all the options we have.
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Androidwarrior said:
Not to be a bigger jerk after i couldn't figure it out by typing and googling it i figure and it being a new phone and all why not let me ask the XDA community under the Answers and questions. Yea thanks for your thoughts greatly appreciated.
Sent from my Samsung SM-N960U using XDA Labs
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That setting search function is an awesome tool with all the options we have.
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Lol you typed it everywhere but the settings search bar? Roger got ya.
So umm yeah, setting search. Excellent tool. Glad to be of help
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TechOut said:
Something is covering the sensor on the top of the phone. Either clean it and make sure nothing is covering it when you wake your phone or disable the block accidental touches feature
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Thanks i will clean it and make sure nothing is obstructing the sensor.
Sent from my Samsung SM-N960U using XDA Labs
sasmuhd said:
The function prevent accidently part of body skin touches the phone screen when the phone in pocket. To disable, go to Display > Block Accidental touches.
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Thanks i will take a look at that setting.
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I have this issue. There is obviously nothing blocking the sensor, but this message pops up in a stuttering manner for a few seconds.
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Maybe you misunderstood or completely misread my message of how i searched and couldn't find it myself. So after I've exhausted my efforts to "figure it out myself".
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No I read that you did everything you could. The sad thing is typing on the literal text in the setting search would've taken you right to the answer.
I just wish you put as much effort in the "exhaustive search", as you put into griping about good advice..
I mean you could just take a gander at the screen shots and see how easy it is.
Nevermind next time you get a pop up that's too hard to decipher, you can make the daunting task of searching settings.
And that's how you fish.
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I have this issue. There is obviously nothing blocking the sensor, but this message pops up in a stuttering manner for a few seconds.
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Having this issue as well. I like the feature so I will deal with the weirdness. Whenever I plug in my charger my screen flickers with that message about 8-10 times within 2 seconds then goes away.
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Having this issue as well. I like the feature so I will deal with the weirdness. Whenever I plug in my charger my screen flickers with that message about 8-10 times within 2 seconds then goes away.
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have you tried another charger /cable?
i know back in the days when i had a bad charger i would getting small zapps and phantom touches on the screen
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I have this issue. There is obviously nothing blocking the sensor, but this message pops up in a stuttering manner for a few seconds.
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Daniehabazin said:
have you tried another charger /cable?
i know back in the days when i had a bad charger i would getting small zapps and phantom touches on the screen
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That's good information but in my case it happens with the new charger that came with the Note 9. My car charger and my old Note 8 charger
mikevipe said:
That's good information but in my case it happens with the new charger that came with the Note 9. My car charger and my old Note 8 charger
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that's to bad, hopefully it's a software bug and not hardware failure
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Androidwarrior said:
Shame on me i should be put on a cross and burned alive for that question. I'm sure you have a group of people behind you who support your heroism ready to string me up!! Damn now this question is going to cost me everything all because i didn't search. I'm going back to bed to cry. Byeeee...
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Wow you are seriously butt hurt over this.
Literally you could've been like "wow, so many ways to do something on this phone thanks for one more tool in my tool box".
Nevermind checking the extensive manual that answers a lot of these questions. Let's not pretend this is hard info to find. It's the phone doing what it was designed to do, not some broken feature you need to troubleshoot.
I keep forgetting this is XDA, it's easier to ask for the answer right in front of you as opposed to learning how to answer the questions yourself.
I'll report back to my support group and tell them mission accomplished. Someone learned something new.
Knowing is half the battle!
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If you pick up your phone with your hand over the proximity sensor (top of phone), you will get this pop-up. I turned the setting off and it went away but the screen did unintentionally come on while in a pocket. Therefore, it appears best to leave it on and ignore the message.
Can a mod delete pcriz's comments and androidwarriors responses after the question was answered. I think this topic was a valid question.
Samsung has switched up a lot for the better but the downside is they moved it all around. We are stuck in such a monotonous get to point A to point B environment these days the answer was right in front of his face but he couldn't see it because he was too used to the tools he always uses. I am still learning little things about this phone as I go too. I think his question was valid, seeing as Samsung experience is still quite new, Samsung experience is such a huge improvement over TouchWiz, the note9 is loaded to the gills with features and nuances and Samsung (and other OEMs including Google) having features that have trained us to a certain mindset for years. Coming back to the note line after a hiatus hasn't been overwhelming for me but I can see where coming to the note would be like a longtime Android user switching to iOS or even vice versa. For me, still using my work iPhone is so underwhelming I can't figure stuff out and I am pretty savvy with tech. iOS users can find Android overwhelming. And listening to the apologies Apple users come up with now, compared to yesteryear, when many people are finding out iOS isn't as easy to use as has been claimed, it's just what they grew up on, kind of like learning a language. There is a lot to grasp by being immersed in the ecosystem, but more to find out by asking details and learning, learning that can be turned into a tool to find more stuff on your own. Dude obviously tried and put out one more flag up for something he might not have had control over and the response was douchebaggery at it's finest. I find the questions dumb when people are asking me how do I get such great battery life and how they can do it but are unwilling to take their phone off full brightness, theme it to take advantage of OLED's self emitting pixels and are stacked to the gills with social media and email accounts because they have to be that connected and are not willing to streamline portability. Finding the sweetspot for my notifications on the note9 was aggravating for the first time in years as there are many layers to it now. I had to experiment and read about other questions to figure it out. Settings are still taking some time to get used to with main settings, app settings and figuring out where the granular settings are when they're not in places or labeled to what we are accustomed to. To each his own but pcriz obviously overstepped the bounds for a valid question.

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