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VS910ZVB: "LG Revolution gets bloat-removing OTA update"

From Android Central: "Updates, patches, and bug fixes are included in version VS910ZVB."
I don't have enough posts yet to link, so replace the " [dot] ":
androidcentral [dot] com/lg-revolution-gets-bloat-removing-ota-update

I have remove clock work so I can get the update. Been so long since I connected my phone to my pc to this, I will have to start from scratch. Time to search for all the how to's in here.

Haxcid said:
I have remove clock work so I can get the update. Been so long since I connected my phone to my pc to this, I will have to start from scratch. Time to search for all the how to's in here.
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I'm rooted but without CWM (still have stock recovery). Can I simply defrost (freezing is all I've done) and get the update? Or do I have to do a hard reset to get back to full stock?
If hard reset to stock is required, any tips or techniques that you use to save time to get back to where you were? Thx.

Well I am updated and while I notice that all the extra Verizon apps are gone here is what I see...
1. Kindle, bing, slacker, tunewiki, and Verizon tones are all still installed and no option to remove them.
2, After I installed a dozen apps of my own, I still have 1gig of app space available.
3. The phone is remarkable faster and smoother.
I am going to see if they fixed the Exchange email client issue I was having...

Haxcid said:
Well I am updated and while I notice that all the extra Verizon apps are gone here is what I see...
1. Kindle, bing, slacker, tunewiki, and Verizon tones are all still installed and no option to remove them.
2, After I installed a dozen apps of my own, I still have 1gig of app space available.
3. The phone is remarkable faster and smoother.
I am going to see if they fixed the Exchange email client issue I was having...
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Did you need to unroot? If yes how did you do it?
Thx
Mendel

mmp17 said:
Did you need to unroot? If yes how did you do it?
Thx
Mendel
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Rooted should be ok, you may likely lose your root. It does not install with clockwork. I used lgnpst and imaged my phone, I then did a factory reset, felt like starting from scratch.
Verizon only removed a handful of apps. I am not sure it was worth the trouble. I have to root again so I can go back in and freeze or uninstall all the crap they left.
Id say in the de-bloat department they were a epic fail.

Haxcid said:
Rooted should be ok, you may likely lose your root. It does not install with clockwork. I used lgnpst and imaged my phone, I then did a factory reset, felt like starting from scratch.
Verizon only removed a handful of apps. I am not sure it was worth the trouble. I have to root again so I can go back in and freeze or uninstall all the crap they left.
Id say in the de-bloat department they were a epic fail.
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I tried to do the update and it fails. I unrooted and it still failed if it is not worth it I'll leave it as it is. let us know if this update can be rooted.
Thx
Mendel

mmp17 said:
I tried to do the update and it fails. I unrooted and it still failed if it is not worth it I'll leave it as it is. let us know if this update can be rooted.
Thx
Mendel
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yeah I returned my phone to stock with the lg tool and tot file, then did a factory reset, updated, rooted again, used titanium back up to uninstall the rest of the bloat Verizon missed.

While I do not know if the update breaks root or not, you can use the root tool in the dev section (esteem root v2) to root your phone. It works like a charm.

So was anything else updated? Trying to decide if it's worth my time to bother with. I am already running a zv9 that I seriously debloated and tweaked to where it's useable.
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me too. I am running zv9 with root. And uninstalled lots of useless apps for me. I tried update, but failed.
wslguy said:
So was anything else updated? Trying to decide if it's worth my time to bother with. I am already running a zv9 that I seriously debloated and tweaked to where it's useable.
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It will rebloat your phone. While they did patch some things, my phone did actually run smoother. I did have to root it again and un-install all the bloat they left, vzw tones, navigator, city id, kindle, slacker, etc...
No better battery life and not much of a performance increase. Id wait if you are happy.

keeps trying to update
I was planning on rooting & putting BrokenOut ROM on my revo when my contract ended. Then this OTA update came out, and I was worried that it would prevent that. So, I rooted the phone and put CWM recovery on and did a backup. As expected, the OTA update failed.
But, it hasn't given up. It tries and tries, about once a day. I hear my phone chirp, and it has rebooted and drained the battery, and shows at various times either the "update failed" screen, or the "updating in 2 minutes" screen, or recovery. When I get prompted to run the update, I defer it - but the deferal time doesn't correspond to when the reboot happens.
It's possible that the rooting and recovery are behind the problem, and not the update - but I suspect the update has something to do with it.
So, what I'd like to know is:
1) if I get the update, can I still use ROM Manager to change the recovery back to CWM, and still be able to flash BO on it?
2) to get the update, is it safe to just use ROM Manager to put the stock recovery on it, then run the update? I haven't done any debloating or other rooty stuff not mentioned above. I'd rather not lose data by reset, tot, etc.
3) can I fix my problem without getting the update? Maybe one of the options on the "update failed" screen? I'm not sure if I've selected only "OK" or only "Cancel" so far - or what those are supposed to mean.
4) do the security updates make zvb better than BO? (Does anyone here no what the security updates are?)
Thanks...

Broken out is based off of V9, so unless there are updates to the radio, you will most likely over-write most, if not all, of the updates.
As posted earlier, someone has rooted and installed cwm. But, someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) I will try my best to update BO. Also, if someone can do a backup of the new update and post it up, (not the blob crap, the other one ) I'll rip the kernel and post a flashable zip. Maybe they did fix something. We will see.

I.M.famous XMAN said:
Broken out is based off of V9, so unless there are updates to the radio, you will most likely over-write most, if not all, of the updates.
As posted earlier, someone has rooted and installed cwm. But, someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) I will try my best to update BO. Also, if someone can do a backup of the new update and post it up, (not the blob crap, the other one ) I'll rip the kernel and post a flashable zip. Maybe they did fix something. We will see.
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Yeah, I figured current BO would undo zvb, that's why I was wondering which I should go with. The update downloaded several times, but I don't see anything in /data/local/tmp. Don't know if the download failed or just didn't persist. It hasn't tried to update for the last 30 hours or so. I'm not eager to encourage it at the moment.
I see that haxcid re-rooted, but nothing about re-cwm-ing.

can't find update file(s)
I.M.famous XMAN said:
...someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) ...
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I rebooted my phone, and once again it prompted me to install the update. I selected "defer" and then checked settings / about phone / software update / status which says "Package downloaded successfully".
However, /data/local/tmp is still an empty directory, according to ES File Explorer.

That's where the file was stored for v7, v8, and v9. Maybe they changed it for this update. IDK. I'll look into it. No worries. It's all good.

I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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OrangeJoe said:
I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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Ok, I got it, I think. It's called ipth_package.bin
For now, I'm going to skip trying to attach it, and just give the link from which it seems to download:
https : / / pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS910_ZV9_TO_ZVB.bin
~47 MB

OrangeJoe said:
I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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Ok, I got it, I think. It's called ipth_package.bin
For now, I'm going to skip trying to attach it, and just give the link from which it seems to download:
https : / / pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS910_ZV9_TO_ZVB.bin
~47 MB
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Is it weird that my phone never prompted me for the OTA? I am on BO 2.0.1 with ZV9

dbeauch said:
Is it weird that my phone never prompted me for the OTA? I am on BO 2.0.1 with ZV9
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Not really. I believe MT disabled the update feature from BO; hence the 'super fast' FC's at boot.

Blocking update?

Just received my Moto X AT&T shipped from Costco, system version is 139.9.51.ghost_ATT.en.US -so would appear I can root? (and then hopefully take the update without losing root? I recall seeing a thread, hopefully for the version I have)
Can the update be "pushed" onto the device without my accepting it, as to whether I would need to root (if I wanted to root) quickly to block it?
Thanks

M973 said:
Just received my Moto X AT&T shipped from Costco, system version is 139.9.51.ghost_ATT.en.US -so would appear I can root? (and then hopefully take the update without losing root? I recall seeing a thread, hopefully for the version I have)
Can the update be "pushed" onto the device without my accepting it, as to whether I would need to root (if I wanted to root) quickly to block it?
Thanks
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no but you will get continual pop ups unless you the phone then disable motorola ota 1.0 and updater.apk (i think just updater.apk will suffice) with Titanium back up.

jayboyyyy said:
no but you will get continual pop ups unless you the phone then disable motorola ota 1.0 and updater.apk (i think just updater.apk will suffice) with Titanium back up.
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Thanks, I thought that was the case, but wanted to confirm quickly (with some, SGS4, it's pushed to the phone whether you accept or not, unless you're rooted.)
Thanks for the quick reply

M973 said:
Thanks, I thought that was the case, but wanted to confirm quickly (with some, SGS4, it's pushed to the phone whether you accept or not, unless you're rooted.)
Thanks for the quick reply
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not sure if it downloads it automatically or not (i don't think it does but it may). Even if it does download automatically it won't update it unless you click ok when it prompts you. I would root and disable OTiA until you figure out what you are going to do about it.

rooting
looks like it's either with PwnMyMoto, or Motoroot, appears the first is better? Looks like both are done with ADB which was a bit difficult, have only used it once, used it to remove safestrap from the SGS4 I had so I could return it

M973 said:
looks like it's either with PwnMyMoto, or Motoroot, appears the first is better? Looks like both are done with ADB which was a bit difficult, have only used it once, used it to remove safestrap from the SGS4 I had so I could return it
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You can just install pwnmymoto on your device and run it. Make sure to have unknown sources checked
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Also it is wise to get familiar with adb and fastboot!

shane1 said:
You can just install pwnmymoto on your device and run it. Make sure to have unknown sources checked
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Also it is wise to get familiar with adb and fastboot!
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Cool, thanks!

unable to apply Android 5.1 OTA (not rooted)

Hi, my Nexus is on Android 5.0.1 (LRX22C). I haven't rooted or unlocked the bootloader; everything is totally stock. But I'm unable to successfully install the Android 5.1 OTA update. My phone downloads it, verifies it, then reboots to begin the installation process. After working on the update for a while, I see an error message (with an android on its back and a red "X"). The phone stays on that screen for a while, then eventually reboots without having installed the update. I've tried clearing cache, and it doesn't help. Anyone have any ideas?

carrot34 said:
Hi, my Nexus is on Android 5.0.1 (LRX22C). I haven't rooted or unlocked the bootloader; everything is totally stock. But I'm unable to successfully install the Android 5.1 OTA update. My phone downloads it, verifies it, then reboots to begin the installation process. After working on the update for a while, I see an error message (with an android on its back and a red "X"). The phone stays on that screen for a while, then eventually reboots without having installed the update. I've tried clearing cache, and it doesn't help. Anyone have any ideas?
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Some more info please. What carrier are you using? Was your phone purchased from that carrier or somewhere else?

Evolution_Freak said:
Some more info please. What carrier are you using? Was your phone purchased from that carrier or somewhere else?
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Thanks! I'm on T-Mobile, and bought the phone from Google Play.

carrot34 said:
Thanks! I'm on T-Mobile, and bought the phone from Google Play.
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Are you familiar with sideload?
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Check out my thread on OTA's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2992919
In post #2, there's a link to the OTA files thread. Take the one that is specifically for T-Mobile. LRX22C to LMY47M.

Evolution_Freak said:
Are you familiar with sideload?
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Yeah, I've sideloaded before with other devices, but I'd like not to have deal with wiping my phone to unlock the bootloader right now. I'd thought that by not rooting or messing with the bootloader, I'd keep things simple and be able to easily apply OTA updates. So I'm very frustrating that this isn't working. Any idea why this might be happening?
Thanks!
Alan

carrot34 said:
Yeah, I've sideloaded before with other devices, but I'd like not to have deal with wiping my phone to unlock the bootloader right now. I'd thought that by not rooting or messing with the bootloader, I'd keep things simple and be able to easily apply OTA updates. So I'm very frustrating that this isn't working. Any idea why this might be happening?
Thanks!
Alan
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No, you do not need to wipe or unlock to sideload. Post #3 in the thread I linked, simple instructions on sideloading.
As for why this is happening, anyone's guess but it could, somehow, have something to do with your device having the T-Mobile Sim and being from Google play.

Evolution_Freak said:
No, you do not need to wipe or unlock to sideload. Post #3 in the thread I linked, simple instructions on sideloading.
As for why this is happening, anyone's guess but it could, somehow, have something to do with your device having the T-Mobile Sim and being from Google play.
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OK, I'll give it a shot. Thanks! Any idea which OTA I want? I'm guessing it's LMY47M, since I'm on a T-Mobile SIM, even though the device was bought from Google? Need I worry that that build isn't up on Google's "Factory Images for Nexus Devices" page? And is there any risk that installing an update this way will make it more complicated to get OTA updates in the future? (I was hoping that by doing things the official way this time, I could avoid having to monkey around with stuff like this.)
Thanks!
Alan

carrot34 said:
OK, I'll give it a shot. Thanks! Any idea which OTA I want? I'm guessing it's LMY47M, since I'm on a T-Mobile SIM, even though the device was bought from Google? Need I worry that that build isn't up on Google's "Factory Images for Nexus Devices" page? And is there any risk that installing an update this way will make it more complicated to get OTA updates in the future? (I was hoping that by doing things the official way this time, I could avoid having to monkey around with stuff like this.)
Thanks!
Alan
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Yes, you want the LRX22C to LMY47M OTA as I said before. No, you don't need to worry about it not being on the images page. Also a no for it affecting your ability to get OTA's in the future. On a Nexus, this is pretty much as official as getting the OTA natively.

OK, an update: got an error installing the update any way I tried, even after a factory reset. Called Google support, and they're replacing the phone for me.

how do I disable OTA updates?

I successfully rooted my new 5th generation Kindle Fire 7" tonight. However, it did update to Fire OS 5.0.1 when I was first setting it up. Can I still disable the automatic OTA updates? If so, HOW????

jwhitesel2137 said:
I successfully rooted my new 5th generation Kindle Fire 7" tonight. However, it did update to Fire OS 5.0.1 when I was first setting it up. Can I still disable the automatic OTA updates? If so, HOW????
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How did you root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3220430
Disable OTA - Keep SDCard Write Access and Use a Different Launcher *READ BEFORE BOOT
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sd_shadow said:
How did you root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3220430
Disable OTA - Keep SDCard Write Access and Use a Different Launcher *READ BEFORE BOOT
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I followed your directions on another post http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
but I had already set things up over Wifi earlier in the day when I bought the tablet. Didn't want to drive another hour back to the store if it didn't work right (I read some bad reviews about problems right out of the gate).

jwhitesel2137 said:
I followed your directions on another post http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
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that is done without root
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ldeveraux said:
That has nothing to do with rooting...
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That has nothing to do with rooting...

Disable OTA
I'm in a similiar situation.
After buying the tablet I've updated to 5.0.1
Afterwards I've rooted the tablet via:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/wip-achieving-root-thread-t3238152
Now my question is: how to disable OTA - still possible?
Guess, I found it. Here the link for all the others finding this thread first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/disable-ota-sdcard-write-access-t3220430

also in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3239582
5.0.1 Bloatware & other Safe to remove Apps (2015)
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that is done without root
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I actually used the method in that thread to install Google Framework/Play Store. This thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
I came across the tutorial video for it on youtube before I came across your post in this thread that linked to the Google Framework/Play Store install thread. The reason I came across this thread was because I was also searching for a way to disable OTA updates, however, I now noticed that in the Google Framework/Play Store install thread there's a note made by you which states that the install bat now includes blocking OTA updates as of 02 Nov 2015. I did follow this method after that date, so does this mean that I no longer need to use adb commands to disable OTA updates? I was going to use the method found in this thread, which you also linked to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/disable-ota-sdcard-write-access-t3220430 but I'm now assuming that I don't need to. Could you please tell me if my thinking would be correct on this? Thanks very much in advance.

GTab10.1 said:
I actually used the method in that thread to install Google Framework/Play Store. This thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
I came across the tutorial video for it on youtube before I came across your post in this thread that linked to the Google Framework/Play Store install thread. The reason I came across this thread was because I was also searching for a way to disable OTA updates, however, I now noticed that in the Google Framework/Play Store install thread there's a note made by you which states that the install bat now includes blocking OTA updates as of 02 Nov 2015. I did follow this method after that date, so does this mean that I no longer need to use adb commands to disable OTA updates? I was going to use the method found in this thread, which you also linked to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/disable-ota-sdcard-write-access-t3220430 but I'm now assuming that I don't need to. Could you please tell me if my thinking would be correct on this? Thanks very much in advance.
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I'd like to know too

GTab10.1 said:
I actually used the method in that thread to install Google Framework/Play Store. This thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
I came across the tutorial video for it on youtube before I came across your post in this thread that linked to the Google Framework/Play Store install thread. The reason I came across this thread was because I was also searching for a way to disable OTA updates, however, I now noticed that in the Google Framework/Play Store install thread there's a note made by you which states that the install bat now includes blocking OTA updates as of 02 Nov 2015. I did follow this method after that date, so does this mean that I no longer need to use adb commands to disable OTA updates? I was going to use the method found in this thread, which you also linked to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/disable-ota-sdcard-write-access-t3220430 but I'm now assuming that I don't need to. Could you please tell me if my thinking would be correct on this? Thanks very much in advance.
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Well the batch file has several options, if you've selected the 3rd one (block OTA updates from Amazon) on the menu and not used the 4th one then you have blocked them. If you've only used the 2nd option (Install Google Play store and remove ads from lock screen) then they aren't blocked.

Option 3 is still using adb commands to block the ota apks, the only difference is the batch file is 'automating' them so you don't have to type em in by hand. You just have to select 3 like Pond-life said above. And for the love of god don't anyone select option 4 !

julianpaul said:
Option 3 is still using adb commands to block the ota apks, the only difference is the batch file is 'automating' them so you don't have to type em in by hand. You just have to select 3 like Pond-life said above. And for the love of god don't anyone select option 4 !
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Thanks guys! And is it easy to re-enable OTA updates in the future if I want to?
I haven't rooted it I only used the option to install play store and disable ads, but I've read people saying the latest update causes the play store to stop working or something?

supashaka said:
Thanks guys! And is it easy to re-enable OTA updates in the future if I want to?
I haven't rooted it I only used the option to install play store and disable ads, but I've read people saying the latest update causes the play store to stop working or something?
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yes, just use adb unhide command
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When I used that batch file disabling ota was a selectable option. Assuming you did you should be safe. You can check by turning off WiFi and going to settings-device options-system updates. If you click system updates and get The requested action is not permitted then you should be OK. Of course you can also go the manual adb route as well. If updates are already blocked then you'll just get an error from adb (to the best of my recollection). Or run the batch file again and select the "Block ota" option again if you are not sure if you did before.
Edit: actually I was wrong, if you "pm hide" a package that's already hidden it just says "new status:hidden" again. Not sure that there is a way to tell if a package is hidden since there is no "pm list packages -h" command.

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yes, just use adb unhide command
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What happens if I use option 4 (unblock OTA updates)? Wouldn't that work aswell?
Does that mean the latest updates really can cause problems even if I just installed the playstore and didn't actually root it?

supashaka said:
What happens if I use option 4 (unblock OTA updates)? Wouldn't that work aswell?
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yes, that should work
Does that mean the latest updates really can cause problems even if I just installed the playstore and didn't actually root it?
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Depends on the update, looks like google framework works with 5.1.1, if installed as a user app.
but future updates could be different

kramalot said:
When I used that batch file disabling ota was a selectable option. Assuming you did you should be safe. You can check by turning off WiFi and going to settings-device options-system updates. If you click system updates and get The requested action is not permitted then you should be OK. Of course you can also go the manual adb route as well. If updates are already blocked then you'll just get an error from adb (to the best of my recollection). Or run the batch file again and select the "Block ota" option again if you are not sure if you did before.
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I froze the 3 ota files with TiBu. When I go to settings>device options>system updates, it forces closes back out the the device options screen. Should I be good NOT to get the update?

howzitnow said:
I froze the 3 ota files with TiBu. When I go to settings>device options>system updates, it forces closes back out the the device options screen. Should I be good NOT to get the update?
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Yes.

to late dont need help anymore ...did not stop OTA in time

BAM
my tablet starts to update
i have it paused in recovery
i want to stop this update and dont know how
every time i boot it tries to update "Fire is installing the latest update.... can take up to 10 min"
i have root....
and i believe Amazon is trying to stop rooting with this update
how can i remove the update file so it stops trying to update ?
i can get into fastboot and recovery no prob
just cant boot without updating
PLEASE Help
i'm scared this update will break something
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back story
i thought i had time. and was waiting for the play store to recognize my device before i ordered Titanium Backup Pro
to freeze apps. and OTA
the play store says "You don't have any devices" when i try to login in to the play store on my computer
but i can access the play store from the play store app on my fire just fine
i read a post that said it could take up to 2+ hours for the play store to recognize the fire tablet, when logging in with a computer
so i was waiting

Won't stopping a update in progress mess up the tablet possibly brick, 5.0.1 is needed for gplay its saying no devices because 5.0.0 gplay doesn't work on it
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Also sometimes it says its updating I believe because it is refreshing the apps when you root it says its updating I've noticed on stock android when you do this stuff it says its upgrading because its optimising apps
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a1yet said:
BAM
my tablet starts to update
i have it paused in recovery
i want to stop this update and dont know how
every time i boot it tries to update "Fire is installing the latest update.... can take up to 10 min"
i have root....
and i believe Amazon is trying to stop rooting with this update
how can i remove the update file so it stops trying to update ?
i can get into fastboot and recovery no prob
just cant boot without updating
PLEASE Help
i'm scared this update will break something
:crying:
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back story
i thought i had time. and was waiting for the play store to recognize my device before i ordered Titanium Backup Pro
to freeze apps. and OTA
the play store says "You don't have any devices" when i try to login in to the play store on my computer
but i can access the play store from the play store app on my fire just fine
i read a post that said it could take up to 2+ hours for the play store to recognize the fire tablet, when logging in with a computer
so i was waiting
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Just realised you've connected to the internet before blocking otas the guide clearly says to not connect to the internet so it can't download them, Google play on 5.0.0 can't check licences also so apps like launchers won't activate the plus features
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a1yet said:
BAM
my tablet starts to update
i have it paused in recovery
i want to stop this update and dont know how
every time i boot it tries to update "Fire is installing the latest update.... can take up to 10 min"
i have root....
and i believe Amazon is trying to stop rooting with this update
how can i remove the update file so it stops trying to update ?
i can get into fastboot and recovery no prob
just cant boot without updating
PLEASE Help
i'm scared this update will break something
:crying:
................................................................................
back story
i thought i had time. and was waiting for the play store to recognize my device before i ordered Titanium Backup Pro
to freeze apps. and OTA
the play store says "You don't have any devices" when i try to login in to the play store on my computer
but i can access the play store from the play store app on my fire just fine
i read a post that said it could take up to 2+ hours for the play store to recognize the fire tablet, when logging in with a computer
so i was waiting
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The splash screen that says the latest update is being installed is just Amazon's version of the Android dialog that says Android is upgrading, which you'll get any time you wipe cache. In other words, if you're already on 5.0.1 and have been messing around with it (e.g. rooting it) it's not unusual to see the "latest update" screen on reboot as the cache gets rebuilt.

tonyt3rry said:
Won't stopping a update in progress mess up the tablet possibly brick, 5.0.1 is needed for gplay its saying no devices because 5.0.0 gplay doesn't work on it.................
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dont know but i am already on 5.0.1 or maybe it's 5.0.1.1
this is something new and just released
stopping the update, should not brick it
if it does i could always put the update file back
once someone tells me how to remove it or stop the update process

theophile2 said:
if you're already on 5.0.1 and have been messing around with it (e.g. rooting it) it's not unusual to see the "latest update" screen on reboot as the cache gets rebuilt.
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oh ya i wiped the cash yesterday and did a factory reset
then rooted it
you think thats why today i see the update ?
or is it something new ?
no that cant be it i remember it rebuilding the cash yesterday
so this is something new
probably to fix the root hole we found
because if we root it we dont have to see their adds
or use their programs like "PRIME"
and they dont make money
thats why i am scared of this update
because it's in their best interest to stop root and boot-loaders

If you're on 5.0.1 then you're on the latest and you're not receiving an update.

I have got same problem
I originally have stopped the OTA through adb shell
but then I still got the update
not sure why this happens...

KILRL said:
I have got same problem
I originally have stopped the OTA through adb shell
but then I still got the update
not sure why this happens...
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Read the post above yours. It's most likely not an update!

ldeveraux said:
Read the post above yours. It's most likely not an update!
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Wow some people just don't read I explained it so did someone else
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tonyt3rry said:
Wow some people just don't read I explained it so did someone else
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.
oh great i added you to ignore list
such a nice feature :good::laugh:
PS: i beg you to please add me to YOUR ignore list
don't want you reading my posts
....
......
on a side note
thanks for everyone else how responded
trying to help
as a side side note
i decided to try it as no one suggested an alternative
and guess what
Amazon took away my root
and device still says I'm on 5.0.1
i'll see if i can get root back and will keep u updated
and please if you quote someone please don't re-post their entire post
shorten it to one or 2 lines
every one that reads their post know what they typed
and don't wanna read the same thing 100 times
no need to make your self look important and you posts look bigger
by quoting everything they said
.

a1yet said:
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go Frack your self
....
on a side note
thanks for everyone else how responded
trying to help
as a side side note
i decided to try it as no one suggested an alternative
and guess what
Amazon took away my root
and device still says I'm on 5.0.1
i'll see if i can get root back and will keep u updated
.
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FWIW, I rooted on 5.01.
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jco23 said:
FWIW, I rooted on 5.01.
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thanks for your reply
and ya i WAS rooted on 5.0.1 also
they must have changed the kernel or something on the update
without changing the version number
but that's just a theory, and i could be wrong
it is also possible ANY update of ANY kind takes away root
..
i think i'll get it back but i have not tryed yet

a1yet said:
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oh great i added you to ignore list
such a nice feature :good:[emoji23]
PS: i beg you to please add me to YOUR ignore list
don't want you reading my posts
....
......
on a side note
thanks for everyone else how responded
trying to help
as a side side note
i decided to try it as no one suggested an alternative
and guess what
Amazon took away my root
and device still says I'm on 5.0.1
i'll see if i can get root back and will keep u updated
and please if you quote someone please don't re-post their entire post
shorten it to one or 2 lines
every one that reads their post know what they typed
and don't wanna read the same thing 100 times
no need to make your self look important and you posts look bigger
by quoting everything they said
.
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Add me to your ignore list I couldn't care I helped you out if you read what I posted I provided help and a explanation if you want to act like that it's perfectly fine I don't need to add anyone to my ignore list have some common sense
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a1yet said:
.
oh great i added you to ignore list
such a nice feature :good:[emoji23]
PS: i beg you to please add me to YOUR ignore list
don't want you reading my posts
....
......
on a side note
thanks for everyone else how responded
trying to help
as a side side note
i decided to try it as no one suggested an alternative
and guess what
Amazon took away my root
and device still says I'm on 5.0.1
i'll see if i can get root back and will keep u updated
and please if you quote someone please don't re-post their entire post
shorten it to one or 2 lines
every one that reads their post know what they typed
and don't wanna read the same thing 100 times
no need to make your self look important and you posts look bigger
by quoting everything they said
.
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Thanks for telling me to F myself
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---------- Post added at 01:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:37 PM ----------
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3234525 I helped in the first replies also if you use search you'd see i had a similar experience. Lol read and you'd see I did help someone even said look at the reply above which was mine hahaha
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How have you confirmed that you lost root?

blueberry.sky said:
How have you confirmed that you lost root?
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He said he had acidently updated ^
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More than likely it isn't an ota, I had this happen a few times messing with system using root apps, it's just rebuilding cache like users suggested, also when I rooted the device I had that come up before, it's fine.
Just make sure the ota services are disabled/hide/removed.

You can install all the updates available for this device, you won't lose root. Not yet at least

Thank you all for your kind replies
and to
blueberry.sky
i used this app to check for root
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&hl=en
Plus after install of the update i lost superuser
dead give away right there, but i wanted to make sure anyway
so i used that app
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a1yet said:
Thank you all for your kind replies
and to
blueberry.sky
i used this app to check for root
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&hl=en
Plus after install of the update i lost superuser
dead give away right there, but i wanted to make sure anyway
so i used that app
.
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installing an update will cause the loss of root
what system version is on the device now?
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sd_shadow said:
version is on the device now?
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it's Fire OS 5.0.1 before and after update
i think it was the kernel they updated
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kernal version is
3.10.54+(37.5.2.2_user_522054520)
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maybe one of these changed
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android version 5.1
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API level 22
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Build ID LMY470
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thats about all the important info i can find