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Just got an update D95920s

Of course I lost root and it is still 4.4.2, but I can not find any documentation on what changed. Has anyone else received this update?
Baseband version: M8974A-AAAANAZM-2.0.20064
Kernel Version: 3.4.0
Update: TowelRoot does not seem to work with this update!

also got it. its a 220+mb update.

I just got this update as well. I got the message that says it is downloaded and wants to install. I am rooted with TWRP installed now. I have read that some people have had problems and been bricked when they tried to install some updates in the past. For this reason, I went into the hidden menu and disabled OTAs. Guess that didn't work. Has anyone else taken this update being rooted with twrp successfully?

You won't be able to rooted or with custom recovery. Check out the meta-inf script. It will fail if any fishy is going on with your device. I'm going to edit it later tonight so I can post the flash able zip for us to update. All its really updating is the radio.img and a few other apks as well as some security updates.

Checked no update for me. In the Houston area. But read online it was for the VoLTE update and In Flight text messaging
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aloxotls said:
Of course I lost root and it is still 4.4.2, but I can not find any documentation on what changed. Has anyone else received this update?
Baseband version: M8974A-AAAANAZM-2.0.20064
Kernel Version: 3.4.0
Update: TowelRoot does not seem to work with this update!
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OOoooOo boy.... time to disable OTA, thanks for the head up

mattwheat said:
You wont be able to rooted or with custom recovery. Check out the meta-inf script. It will fail if any fishy is going on with your device. Im going to edit it later tonight so I can post the flash able zip for us to update. All its really updating is the radio.img and a few other apks as well as some security updates.
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Once we flash and update, towel root will work again? Someone said they couldn't get towel root to work after the update. For now I'm just playing around with cm11. If someone would get it or another ROM working pretty good, I'd just use it. I had planned on selling the flex and use my bump to get a nexus 6 through t-mobile. But if things get rolling a little around here. I'm happy with my flex. I wish there was more I could do but its over my head. My previous two devices were a Nexus and HTC they were easy compared to this.

How do you disable OTA updates?
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I pulled out all the "abort install if blah blah blah" lines from the Meta-Inf folder and all the lines to install the priv-apps and just for my sake i took out the priv-apps since it would replace with .odex and im deodexed. Checked the updater script for any other "abort or security" crap. Didnt see anything else. So i repacked the update into a flashable.zip and flash away. It adds this really cool "SECURITY ERROR" Under the LG logo on boot up. And transforms the device into a temporary outrageously expensive paper weight.
So i rebooted into twrp and restored. So far a no go. I think after digging through it and seeing what all is in it.....im just gonna make a flashable of the new radio.img incase it upgrades ours and gets better service or picks up those techno tunes from Venus.

I had 2 back to back updates, but I ended with D95920m.

I accidentally downloaded the update. I actually don't even remember doing it. I just saw that it was successfully downloaded. It hasn't updated yet. Is there anything i can do to get rid of it? I don't want to lose root. I don't have a custom recovery installed. I only have root access as that is typically all that I need.
Also, any chance anyone has tried to use towelroot on this after it breaks root? EDIT: Never mind, just saw the OP's update that towelroot will not work. F this. I need to get rid of this phone.
I renamed the file that it downloaded, so at least now it is just asking me to download the update again. I also installed a TWRP in the mean time. I guess I just need to disable updates now.

I am in the same situation... Can you please tell me where the update is downloaded to? I need to rename mine as well in case I were to accidentally hit install update.

How do you get the update notification to go away?

I have seen the option to hide it in one of the xposed modules, but can't remember which one...

captainphoenixx said:
How do you get the update notification to go away?
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The Update should download under Cache or Data/Cache. It should work disabling OTA updates in the hidden menu.
3845#*959#, the go to WLAN test --> OTA Settings and disable

Thank you so much!

Vinsane said:
How do you disable OTA updates?
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if u can root u can delete the system/app/LGDMSClient.apk or freeze Software Update it with Titanium Backup

Bradl79 said:
if u can root u can delete the system/app/LGDMSClient.apk or freeze Software Update it with Titanium Backup
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I don't have an LGDMSCLIENT.APK

mattwheat said:
I don't have an LGDMSCLIENT.APK
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what carrier of the Flex do u have?

Bradl79 said:
what carrier of the Flex do u have?
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I dont have lgdmsclient.apk either. I have the T-mobile (d959) model.

Block Verizon/OTA Update?

Not sure if wrong forum section but was wondering if there was a way to block all Verizon updates without root. I keep getting notifications to install the latest update (the one that gives Advanced Calling 1.0) but I don't want to install it in case it causes issues. Is there a way to remove/block this update feature without root?

You can disable all the Verizon's apps. In the app section in settings I don't get any notifications.

mdcowby said:
You can disable all the Verizon's apps. In the app section in settings I don't get any notifications.
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Dont think you understood my question mdcow. I wasnt talking about stopping Verizon app updates like Navigator, Visual Voicemail, Text App, etc. I was talking about the system firmware updates

jgowell said:
Dont think you understood my question mdcow. I wasnt talking about stopping Verizon app updates like Navigator, Visual Voicemail, Text App, etc. I was talking about the system firmware updates
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Not without root unfortunately. You can only keep declining the install and that's it but eventually your phone will bend to big red's will when you're not paying attention

jgowell said:
Dont think you understood my question mdcow. I wasnt talking about stopping Verizon app updates like Navigator, Visual Voicemail, Text App, etc. I was talking about the system firmware updates
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I've never gotten those update notifications so my disabling a lot of stuff from Verizon and moto must of prevented something.

Just curious then what is your current firmware version? Want to see if you unknowingly updated already or if your update was actually blocked

mdcowby said:
I've never gotten those update notifications so my disabling a lot of stuff from Verizon and moto must of prevented something.
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Is your system 21.44.8 or 21.21.15?

jgowell said:
Is your system 21.44.8 or 21.21.15?
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221.44.8 if it updated it did it without me knowing. I'm getting rid of this phone anyway. Came from insurance cause they didn't have any razr maxx in Stock. I really don't like it.

Okay it sounds like it didn't update as your firmware version matches as one without the update Advanced Calling feature. Still curious to know what you disabled so I could get rid of my notification too

I think this newer ota app came from the Turbo, it stops it on the ultras. Check the md5 against yours. Pull it with Super Manager, apk manager, bAPK. Use Explorer free to read the md5.
I posted the md5 on my Op.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56708101&postcount=1
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I wanted to check where it came from anyway. If not from Turbo then you may be able to benefit too.

aviwdoowks said:
I think this newer ota app came from the Turbo, it stops it on the ultras. Check the md5 against yours. Pull it with Super Manager, apk manager, bAPK. Use Explorer free to read the md5.
I posted the md5 on my Op.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56708101&postcount=1
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I wanted to check where it came from anyway. If not from Turbo then you may be able to benefit too.
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What? Not sure what you are trying to say. Can you reword?

lafont28 said:
Not without root unfortunately. You can only keep declining the install and that's it but eventually your phone will bend to big red's will when you're not paying attention
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actually you can block OTA's without root.
go here and use this method. without root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57436867&postcount=26

jgowell said:
What? Not sure what you are trying to say. Can you reword?
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I still have the old Maxx. I found that installing a newer moto ota app (my link) I could stop the ota. I have yet to determine which new moto system dump I got it from. If not from the Turbo then it may stop it too.
Md5 is unique to any app. I posted it for the unknown app.

When you boot your phone, wait until the download notification comes up then go into settings and force stop MotorolaOTA. It'll cancel the download and it won't try again until you reboot.

Cobra04 said:
When you boot your phone, wait until the download notification comes up then go into settings and force stop MotorolaOTA. It'll cancel the download and it won't try again until you reboot.
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Look two post above by me. you can block without root

the_rooter said:
Look two post above by me. you can block without root
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A few questions about this. Let me know if it is easier to PM you or post here

the_rooter said:
Look two post above by me. you can block without root
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jgowell said:
A few questions about this. Let me know if it is easier to PM you or post here
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Try this blocking method out, I believe it will work for the Turbo. It's easier than using the script. http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294

Misterxtc said:
Try this blocking method out, I believe it will work for the Turbo. It's easier than using the script. http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
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thanks MisterXTC. The tool seems to work like a charm, esp with the search function.
One question: the OTA is already downloaded on my phone and i keep getting a notification to install it but I have been been 'delaying' the install. When I block the "MotoralOTA" but then reboot the phone the phone, the notification comes back. Is there a way to permanently block the OTA or will I have to block it each time the phone restarts?

jgowell said:
thanks MisterXTC. The tool seems to work like a charm, esp with the search function.
One question: the OTA is already downloaded on my phone and i keep getting a notification to install it but I have been been 'delaying' the install. When I block the "MotoralOTA" but then reboot the phone the phone, the notification comes back. Is there a way to permanently block the OTA or will I have to block it each time the phone restarts?
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Try entering recovery mode and wipe the cache. That will delete the downloaded update file. As for permanently blocking the OTA it should stay blocked until you factory reset. It's probable nagging you because of the downloaded update file. You might have to re-block the OTA after clearing cache, I'm not positive. You might need to enter your app manager and manually stop the OTA, try that first.

Misterxtc said:
Try entering recovery mode and wipe the cache. That will delete the downloaded update file. As for permanently blocking the OTA it should stay blocked until you factory reset. It's probable nagging you because of the downloaded update file. You might have to re-block the OTA after clearing cache, I'm not positive. You might need to enter your app manager and manually stop the OTA, try that first.
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I went ahead and cleared cache and it seems to have worked. No notifications to install so far despite reboot.
Thanks again for the link and help afterwards!

to late dont need help anymore ...did not stop OTA in time

BAM
my tablet starts to update
i have it paused in recovery
i want to stop this update and dont know how
every time i boot it tries to update "Fire is installing the latest update.... can take up to 10 min"
i have root....
and i believe Amazon is trying to stop rooting with this update
how can i remove the update file so it stops trying to update ?
i can get into fastboot and recovery no prob
just cant boot without updating
PLEASE Help
i'm scared this update will break something
:crying:
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back story
i thought i had time. and was waiting for the play store to recognize my device before i ordered Titanium Backup Pro
to freeze apps. and OTA
the play store says "You don't have any devices" when i try to login in to the play store on my computer
but i can access the play store from the play store app on my fire just fine
i read a post that said it could take up to 2+ hours for the play store to recognize the fire tablet, when logging in with a computer
so i was waiting

Won't stopping a update in progress mess up the tablet possibly brick, 5.0.1 is needed for gplay its saying no devices because 5.0.0 gplay doesn't work on it
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Also sometimes it says its updating I believe because it is refreshing the apps when you root it says its updating I've noticed on stock android when you do this stuff it says its upgrading because its optimising apps
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a1yet said:
BAM
my tablet starts to update
i have it paused in recovery
i want to stop this update and dont know how
every time i boot it tries to update "Fire is installing the latest update.... can take up to 10 min"
i have root....
and i believe Amazon is trying to stop rooting with this update
how can i remove the update file so it stops trying to update ?
i can get into fastboot and recovery no prob
just cant boot without updating
PLEASE Help
i'm scared this update will break something
:crying:
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back story
i thought i had time. and was waiting for the play store to recognize my device before i ordered Titanium Backup Pro
to freeze apps. and OTA
the play store says "You don't have any devices" when i try to login in to the play store on my computer
but i can access the play store from the play store app on my fire just fine
i read a post that said it could take up to 2+ hours for the play store to recognize the fire tablet, when logging in with a computer
so i was waiting
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Just realised you've connected to the internet before blocking otas the guide clearly says to not connect to the internet so it can't download them, Google play on 5.0.0 can't check licences also so apps like launchers won't activate the plus features
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a1yet said:
BAM
my tablet starts to update
i have it paused in recovery
i want to stop this update and dont know how
every time i boot it tries to update "Fire is installing the latest update.... can take up to 10 min"
i have root....
and i believe Amazon is trying to stop rooting with this update
how can i remove the update file so it stops trying to update ?
i can get into fastboot and recovery no prob
just cant boot without updating
PLEASE Help
i'm scared this update will break something
:crying:
................................................................................
back story
i thought i had time. and was waiting for the play store to recognize my device before i ordered Titanium Backup Pro
to freeze apps. and OTA
the play store says "You don't have any devices" when i try to login in to the play store on my computer
but i can access the play store from the play store app on my fire just fine
i read a post that said it could take up to 2+ hours for the play store to recognize the fire tablet, when logging in with a computer
so i was waiting
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The splash screen that says the latest update is being installed is just Amazon's version of the Android dialog that says Android is upgrading, which you'll get any time you wipe cache. In other words, if you're already on 5.0.1 and have been messing around with it (e.g. rooting it) it's not unusual to see the "latest update" screen on reboot as the cache gets rebuilt.

tonyt3rry said:
Won't stopping a update in progress mess up the tablet possibly brick, 5.0.1 is needed for gplay its saying no devices because 5.0.0 gplay doesn't work on it.................
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dont know but i am already on 5.0.1 or maybe it's 5.0.1.1
this is something new and just released
stopping the update, should not brick it
if it does i could always put the update file back
once someone tells me how to remove it or stop the update process

theophile2 said:
if you're already on 5.0.1 and have been messing around with it (e.g. rooting it) it's not unusual to see the "latest update" screen on reboot as the cache gets rebuilt.
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oh ya i wiped the cash yesterday and did a factory reset
then rooted it
you think thats why today i see the update ?
or is it something new ?
no that cant be it i remember it rebuilding the cash yesterday
so this is something new
probably to fix the root hole we found
because if we root it we dont have to see their adds
or use their programs like "PRIME"
and they dont make money
thats why i am scared of this update
because it's in their best interest to stop root and boot-loaders

If you're on 5.0.1 then you're on the latest and you're not receiving an update.

I have got same problem
I originally have stopped the OTA through adb shell
but then I still got the update
not sure why this happens...

KILRL said:
I have got same problem
I originally have stopped the OTA through adb shell
but then I still got the update
not sure why this happens...
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Read the post above yours. It's most likely not an update!

ldeveraux said:
Read the post above yours. It's most likely not an update!
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Wow some people just don't read I explained it so did someone else
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tonyt3rry said:
Wow some people just don't read I explained it so did someone else
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oh great i added you to ignore list
such a nice feature :good::laugh:
PS: i beg you to please add me to YOUR ignore list
don't want you reading my posts
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on a side note
thanks for everyone else how responded
trying to help
as a side side note
i decided to try it as no one suggested an alternative
and guess what
Amazon took away my root
and device still says I'm on 5.0.1
i'll see if i can get root back and will keep u updated
and please if you quote someone please don't re-post their entire post
shorten it to one or 2 lines
every one that reads their post know what they typed
and don't wanna read the same thing 100 times
no need to make your self look important and you posts look bigger
by quoting everything they said
.

a1yet said:
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go Frack your self
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on a side note
thanks for everyone else how responded
trying to help
as a side side note
i decided to try it as no one suggested an alternative
and guess what
Amazon took away my root
and device still says I'm on 5.0.1
i'll see if i can get root back and will keep u updated
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FWIW, I rooted on 5.01.
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jco23 said:
FWIW, I rooted on 5.01.
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thanks for your reply
and ya i WAS rooted on 5.0.1 also
they must have changed the kernel or something on the update
without changing the version number
but that's just a theory, and i could be wrong
it is also possible ANY update of ANY kind takes away root
..
i think i'll get it back but i have not tryed yet

a1yet said:
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oh great i added you to ignore list
such a nice feature :good:[emoji23]
PS: i beg you to please add me to YOUR ignore list
don't want you reading my posts
....
......
on a side note
thanks for everyone else how responded
trying to help
as a side side note
i decided to try it as no one suggested an alternative
and guess what
Amazon took away my root
and device still says I'm on 5.0.1
i'll see if i can get root back and will keep u updated
and please if you quote someone please don't re-post their entire post
shorten it to one or 2 lines
every one that reads their post know what they typed
and don't wanna read the same thing 100 times
no need to make your self look important and you posts look bigger
by quoting everything they said
.
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Add me to your ignore list I couldn't care I helped you out if you read what I posted I provided help and a explanation if you want to act like that it's perfectly fine I don't need to add anyone to my ignore list have some common sense
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a1yet said:
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oh great i added you to ignore list
such a nice feature :good:[emoji23]
PS: i beg you to please add me to YOUR ignore list
don't want you reading my posts
....
......
on a side note
thanks for everyone else how responded
trying to help
as a side side note
i decided to try it as no one suggested an alternative
and guess what
Amazon took away my root
and device still says I'm on 5.0.1
i'll see if i can get root back and will keep u updated
and please if you quote someone please don't re-post their entire post
shorten it to one or 2 lines
every one that reads their post know what they typed
and don't wanna read the same thing 100 times
no need to make your self look important and you posts look bigger
by quoting everything they said
.
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Thanks for telling me to F myself
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3234525 I helped in the first replies also if you use search you'd see i had a similar experience. Lol read and you'd see I did help someone even said look at the reply above which was mine hahaha
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How have you confirmed that you lost root?

blueberry.sky said:
How have you confirmed that you lost root?
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He said he had acidently updated ^
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More than likely it isn't an ota, I had this happen a few times messing with system using root apps, it's just rebuilding cache like users suggested, also when I rooted the device I had that come up before, it's fine.
Just make sure the ota services are disabled/hide/removed.

You can install all the updates available for this device, you won't lose root. Not yet at least

Thank you all for your kind replies
and to
blueberry.sky
i used this app to check for root
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&hl=en
Plus after install of the update i lost superuser
dead give away right there, but i wanted to make sure anyway
so i used that app
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a1yet said:
Thank you all for your kind replies
and to
blueberry.sky
i used this app to check for root
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&hl=en
Plus after install of the update i lost superuser
dead give away right there, but i wanted to make sure anyway
so i used that app
.
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installing an update will cause the loss of root
what system version is on the device now?
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sd_shadow said:
version is on the device now?
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it's Fire OS 5.0.1 before and after update
i think it was the kernel they updated
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kernal version is
3.10.54+(37.5.2.2_user_522054520)
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maybe one of these changed
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android version 5.1
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API level 22
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Build ID LMY470
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thats about all the important info i can find

New Fire - what to do?

So I'm getting my new Fire tablet tomorrow, got it at the $35 sale...
Planning to not allow it to connect to WiFi till I can load Google Play and disable OTA using the script given here (already did it on another one and it worked great) so it doesn't get 5.1.1.
Two questions:
1. How can I tell if it's running 5.0.0 or 5.0.1 (without doing the software update check obviously...)
(also not sure how to see it once OTA is disabled, any other place it shows up?)
2. If it's on 5.0.0. can I sideload the 5.0.1 image using ADB, seems that I should be on that version to get Google Play to work OK.
Thanks

I think Amazon is shipping these new ones with 5.1.1, but if they don't, just go to the latest 5.0.1 in RootJunky's video. After that is done, just skip the part in Setup which requires you to connect to Wi-Fi, disable the OTA Apks, and connect to Wi-Fi. You should be set from there, and you can do whatever modifications you want.

Vlasp said:
I think Amazon is shipping these new ones with 5.1.1, but if they don't, just go to the latest 5.0.1 in RootJunky's video. After that is done, just skip the part in Setup which requires you to connect to Wi-Fi, disable the OTA Apks, and connect to Wi-Fi. You should be set from there, and you can do whatever modifications you want.
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Any reports of people receiving Fire's preloaded with 5.1.1?

First things first... Don't connect to wifi and disable ota updates.. Root.. Flash cm12.1 and never look back!

@87racer would love if you could capture the 5.1.1 update for us!

tuckerwagner said:
@87racer would love if you could capture the 5.1.1 update for us!
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thanks @tuckerwagner, looks like we @p0lt just posted one for us. downloading now, should help us discern what happens during the 5.1.1 upgrade and maybe recover our bricks.

87racer said:
thanks @tuckerwagner, looks like we @p0lt just posted one for us. downloading now, should help us discern what happens during the 5.1.1 upgrade and maybe recover our bricks.
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SWEET! I'd help but in don't know where to even start. Good luck!

The update from 5.0.1 to 5.1.1 isn't instantaneous. The device has to download the new version before installing it. Check your version and if it starts to download 5.1.1, just turn off your wifi. It will say "Download paused." Then disable OTAs or flash one of the two ROMs.
That said, it is highlyunlikely that you would get one that is still on 5.0.0. The one I got last week was already on 5.0.1

register it first so you can contact support for a replacement if it is "defective"... for my $35 fire all you had to do was enable adb, reboot to fastboot, and continue from there. Didn't mess with the fire OS at all except for registering the device.

levytom said:
So I'm getting my new Fire tablet tomorrow, got it at the $35 sale...
Planning to not allow it to connect to WiFi till I can load Google Play and disable OTA using the script given here (already did it on another one and it worked great) so it doesn't get 5.1.1.
Two questions:
1. How can I tell if it's running 5.0.0 or 5.0.1 (without doing the software update check obviously...)
(also not sure how to see it once OTA is disabled, any other place it shows up?)
2. If it's on 5.0.0. can I sideload the 5.0.1 image using ADB, seems that I should be on that version to get Google Play to work OK.
Thanks
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Update:
Got the Fire tablet and this is what I did if you want to try the same:
1. Turned on the device
2. Skipped configuration process when it asked me to connect to WiFi
3. Setting->Devicve options->System update confirmed I'm on 5.0.1 (yey) it can't update obviously since WiFi is not connected, so I'm safe for now
4. Use the 1-click script to install google play, remove ads (http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122)
5. Disable OTA using the same script (menu option 3)
6. Reboot
7. Install Gmail (cause later there's a stage where native email app doesn't work...) and email myself the pre downloaded fire launcher (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3528797&d=1446499184) which will fix it
8. Replace launcher, using the launcher replace script (http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/alternative-launcher-one-click-script-t3239966)
9. install fire launcher apk (because otherwise some stuff doesn't work) - and choose not to use it when clicking the home button
What's left?
1. Didn't root <any reason to root?>
2. Write access to SD card is reported not to work, didn't try that yet... maybe by the time I need it someone will solve it
3. Hope that OTA won't happen and disabling worked... (something is probably done right, because if you try to check for update it says that updates are disabled...) hopefully that's good enough...
4. Say thanks to sd_shadow, ChrBeck, and Awesomeslayerg for the information they provided as well as many others participating in this forum... so Thanks.

levytom said:
What's left?
1. Didn't root <any reason to root?>
2. Write access to SD card is reported not to work, didn't try that yet... maybe by the time I need it someone will solve it
3. Hope that OTA won't happen and disabling worked... (something is probably done right, because if you try to check for update it says that updates are disabled...) hopefully that's good enough...
4. Say thanks to sd_shadow, ChrBeck, and Awesomeslayerg for the information they provided as well as many others participating in this forum... so Thanks.
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1. Personal choice, but ad blocking alone makes root essential for me.
2. Oh and the SDfix app on Play store needs root for that matter... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
3. You can now flash the 5.1.1 update as seen in the http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594 thread so wouldn't need to worry about the current update at least.

Amazon Appstore Network Error

Quick backstory; I rooted my 5th Gen 7" Fire a loooong time ago, with I believe a version of Rootjunky's supertool. Removed auto OS updates, all that good stuff. Accordingly, I cannot access the OS info via System Updates (tapping it gives a blank screen for a moment, then goes back to the main settings screen). I have Google Play & services installed.
So, I tried today to use the Amazon Appstore, and I'm getting a "Network Unreachable" error right when the app launches. I can't use any functions of the store. I'm thinking it's maybe because the app is such a relatively old version, Amazon's network is giving it grief, but I don't know for certain.
Like I said, I can't see for sure what OS version I have, but it has to be one of the first iterations of 5.something.
If anyone has run into this, or has any suggestions to get the appstore working again, I'm all ears. I did a factory reset, both from in the OS and from the Amazon recovery (complete with wiping cache), with no luck. Thanks in advance for any help.

scooter1979 said:
Quick backstory; I rooted my 5th Gen 7" Fire a loooong time ago, with I believe a version of Rootjunky's supertool. Removed auto OS updates, all that good stuff. Accordingly, I cannot access the OS info via System Updates (tapping it gives a blank screen for a moment, then goes back to the main settings screen). I have Google Play & services installed.
So, I tried today to use the Amazon Appstore, and I'm getting a "Network Unreachable" error right when the app launches. I can't use any functions of the store. I'm thinking it's maybe because the app is such a relatively old version, Amazon's network is giving it grief, but I don't know for certain.
Like I said, I can't see for sure what OS version I have, but it has to be one of the first iterations of 5.something.
If anyone has run into this, or has any suggestions to get the appstore working again, I'm all ears. I did a factory reset, both from in the OS and from the Amazon recovery (complete with wiping cache), with no luck. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Have you checked the clock? Sometimes, if the time is off, my store will break. Other than that, I'd recommend you download EZ File explorer, google form the most up to date amazon store apk, uninstall yours and give it a fresh install, especially if you feel out of date is the problem.
I'd also recommend you download a custom rom and flashfire and see if you can't fix that OS info problem, especially since you've already wiped all your data anyway.

elementalcobalt said:
Have you checked the clock? Sometimes, if the time is off, my store will break. Other than that, I'd recommend you download EZ File explorer, google form the most up to date amazon store apk, uninstall yours and give it a fresh install, especially if you feel out of date is the problem.
I'd also recommend you download a custom rom and flashfire and see if you can't fix that OS info problem, especially since you've already wiped all your data anyway.
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This won't work:
- the version of Amazon's app store is different on FireOS; I don't believe it's available for download
- I did not see the OP had wiped his data; the OS info problem is related to blocking OTA updates
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scooter1979 said:
Quick backstory; I rooted my 5th Gen 7" Fire a loooong time ago, with I believe a version of Rootjunky's supertool. Removed auto OS updates, all that good stuff. Accordingly, I cannot access the OS info via System Updates (tapping it gives a blank screen for a moment, then goes back to the main settings screen). I have Google Play & services installed.
So, I tried today to use the Amazon Appstore, and I'm getting a "Network Unreachable" error right when the app launches. I can't use any functions of the store. I'm thinking it's maybe because the app is such a relatively old version, Amazon's network is giving it grief, but I don't know for certain.
Like I said, I can't see for sure what OS version I have, but it has to be one of the first iterations of 5.something.
If anyone has run into this, or has any suggestions to get the appstore working again, I'm all ears. I did a factory reset, both from in the OS and from the Amazon recovery (complete with wiping cache), with no luck. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Best solution is to install a custom ROM; however you seem satisfied with FireOS.
Next best solution IMO is to reload FireOS (which includes Amazon's app store) but you will probably want to stick with version 5.0.1 if that's what is currently installed. Obvious problem is you can't determine that through normal means. Have to be careful here; if you attempt to reload 5.0.1 and your device is currently on 5.1.x or above it will brick. You would also need to reroot, reblock OTA updates, etc. In short, everything you did before. With no guarantee it will fix your original problem (although I think it will).
One way to test for 5.0.1 is to see if it will boot TWRP. However, that can be messy if you are unfamiliar with fastboot and/or have never established a connection with the device in question.
@steve8x8 - I seem to recall you wrote a tool that can query current component/system levels. Thoughts?
p.s. You could also go with FireOS 5.3.1 which is the last build that can be rooted at present. No brick risk as 5.3.1 is >= the current version of FireOS on the device.

elementalcobalt said:
Have you checked the clock? Sometimes, if the time is off, my store will break. Other than that, I'd recommend you download EZ File explorer, google form the most up to date amazon store apk, uninstall yours and give it a fresh install, especially if you feel out of date is the problem.
I'd also recommend you download a custom rom and flashfire and see if you can't fix that OS info problem, especially since you've already wiped all your data anyway.
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It's not the clock, that's as it should be.
Davey126 said:
This won't work:
- the version of Amazon's app store is different on FireOS; I don't believe it's available for download
- I did not see the OP had wiped his data; the OS info problem is related to blocking OTA updates
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Best solution is to install a custom ROM; however you seem satisfied with FireOS.
Next best solution IMO is to reload FireOS (which includes Amazon's app store) but you will probably want to stick with version 5.0.1 if that's what is currently installed. Obvious problem is you can't determine that through normal means. Have to be careful here; if you attempt to reload 5.0.1 and your device is currently on 5.1.x or above it will brick. You would also need to reroot, reblock OTA updates, etc. In short, everything you did before. With no guarantee it will fix your original problem (although I think it will).
One way to test for 5.0.1 is to see if it will boot TWRP. However, that can be messy if you are unfamiliar with fastboot and/or have never established a connection with the device in question.
@steve8x8 - I seem to recall you wrote a tool that can query current component/system levels. Thoughts?
p.s. You could also go with FireOS 5.3.1 which is the last build that can be rooted at present. No brick risk as 5.3.1 is >= the current version of FireOS on the device.
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You are correct, I am happy with the FireOS.
I've played in fastboot before, and given EXACT instructions, I can regurgitate results, but it's not my native tongue. I don't know if the appstore version is locked to the OS version, but according to Appstore Settings under the manage Amazon apps section, I'm rocking release-9.1011.5.1.39.0_2000145010, last updated 2/12/15. Any way to link that with OS version?
If no more info can be gleaned from my device, either from the appstore version or something steve8x8 may have, I may just load 5.3.1 on and run from there. Kinda rather not, but I'd kinda rather not not have appstore access.

scooter1979 said:
... I've played in fastboot before, and given EXACT instructions, I can regurgitate results, but it's not my native tongue. I don't know if the appstore version is locked to the OS version, but according to Appstore Settings under the manage Amazon apps section, I'm rocking release-9.1011.5.1.39.0_2000145010, last updated 2/12/15. Any way to link that with OS version?
If no more info can be gleaned from my device, either from the appstore version or something steve8x8 may have, I may just load 5.3.1 on and run from there. Kinda rather not, but I'd kinda rather not not have appstore access.
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To my knowledge there is no direct correlation of appstore version to FireOS version. Obviously there's a range but we'd need a 1-1 match to draw a comfortable conclusion.
You can test TWRP bootability by following the guidance in this post. If TWRP boots you can safely sideload FireOS 5.0.1 from here using instructions in this thread (posts #1 and #2). That said, if you have no intention of every installing a custom ROM there really isn't any advantage to retaining an older bootloader. If that's the case might as well sideload FireOS 5.3.1. Be aware there is no going back if you take this step.

Davey126 said:
To my knowledge there is no direct correlation of appstore version to FireOS version. Obviously there's a range but we'd need a 1-1 match to draw a comfortable conclusion.
You can test TWRP bootability by following the guidance in this post. If TWRP boots you can safely sideload FireOS 5.0.1 from here using instructions in this thread (posts #1 and #2). That said, if you have no intention of every installing a custom ROM there really isn't any advantage to retaining an older bootloader. If that's the case might as well sideload FireOS 5.3.1. Be aware there is no going back if you take this step.
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Ahhhh nuts. I'm getting "FAILED (remote: unknown command)" return on my Win7 machine trying to boot TWRP, and just simple USB transmission OK output on the device. Looks like I'm over 5.0.1.
Guess it's 5.3.1 for me. I'm assuming I can just follow the directions from sd_shadow's unbrick stock recovery ADB sideload thread, yes? Thanks for all of your help, I really appreciate it.

There's a guide to find bootloader version: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/identify-bootloader-version-t3424634
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scooter1979 said:
Ahhhh nuts. I'm getting "FAILED (remote: unknown command)" return on my Win7 machine trying to boot TWRP, and just simple USB transmission OK output on the device. Looks like I'm over 5.0.1.
Guess it's 5.3.1 for me. I'm assuming I can just follow the directions from sd_shadow's unbrick stock recovery ADB sideload thread, yes? Thanks for all of your help, I really appreciate it.
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Just be sure that you don't accidentally update. Don't connect to WiFi until you have KingRoot, and be sure not to let the os update finish downloading. Once you connect, it will start. Some tips I found on how to avoid updates:
Davey126 said:
- use Kingroot 4.92 or lower; avoid v5.x (nearly impossible to remove)
- partial OTA update files are erased each time the device reboots
- KingRoot reboots frequently
- find a slow AP (library, coffee shop, etc) to thoddle the pace of downloads
- enable WiFi only after KingRoot starts and kill it when run completes
- force reboot device if KingRoot hangs for a prolonged period
- you may have to repeat the process multiple times
- there are trickier approaches (eg: IP/domain blocking) with variable results; the above playbook has worked well for most
- good luck
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PorygonZRocks said:
Just be sure that you don't accidentally update. Don't connect to WiFi until you have KingRoot, and be sure not to let the os update finish downloading. Once you connect, it will start. Some tips I found on how to avoid updates:
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Along with not hooking up wifi immediately, I was thinking of using rootjunky's supertool for root & update blocking, as the tool says it's now compatible with 5.3.1. Should be good enough, as long as I don't connect to a network until ALL of the supertool fun is done (I hope).

scooter1979 said:
Along with not hooking up wifi immediately, I was thinking of using rootjunky's supertool for root & update blocking, as the tool says it's now compatible with 5.3.1. Should be good enough, as long as I don't connect to a network until ALL of the supertool fun is done (I hope).
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You need WiFi to root. That's why you need to be careful, since update starts quickly. Here's the thread the quote was from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/dilemma-t3545062
If you can block the domains linked to in that thread, that'll help. It's not necessary, but it's a good idea.
EDIT: here's the post with them:
HughJeffner said:
Using stock 5.3.1 fresh install here are the domain names used in the update process:
softwareupdates.amazon.com
amzdigital-a.akamaihd.net
The first one is the actual update check, blocking DNS lookup of this domain effectively disabled auto-updates for me YMMV
The second domain name is where the firmware is actually downloaded from (not verified but seems probable). Note that this could change depending on how the update check is implemented.
I recommend blocking DNS resolution of softwareupdates.amazon.com if practical in your situation
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PorygonZRocks said:
You need WiFi to root. That's why you need to be careful, since update starts quickly. Here's the thread the quote was from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/dilemma-t3545062
If you can block the domains linked to in that thread, that'll help. It's not necessary, but it's a good idea.
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Ohhhhh, I didn't realize Kingroot needs internet access... Besides that, I saw in the tool's changelogs that it even removes Kingroot & puts the normal supersu in the system, so I thought everything was more or less a "normal" rooting procedure. Whoops. Thank you, I'll be DNS blocking before anything.

scooter1979 said:
Ohhhhh, I didn't realize Kingroot needs internet access... Besides that, I saw in the tool's changelogs that it even removes Kingroot & puts the normal supersu in the system, so I thought everything was more or less a "normal" rooting procedure. Whoops. Thank you, I'll be DNS blocking before anything.
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It removes KingRoot after using it to root. AFAIK, KingRoot is the only thing that can root these tablets. Personally, I'd recommend finding your bootloader version and flashing that, but it's just a personal preference, and has no practical difference unless you have 5.0.x, which you don't. I just like having oldest I can in case a downgrade method is ever found.
Also I may have an updated appstore apk from my brother's 5.3.2.1 tablet, let me check.
EDIT: Nope, I don't. I do, however, have an (old) apk from the Amazon website. See if installing this version helps. Just out of curiosity, could you attach the apk from your current appstore? I'm wondering if it will install on Fire Nexus. The UI looks much better than the version I have downloaded.
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Just out of curiosity, could you attach the apk from your current appstore? I'm wondering if it will install on Fire Nexus. The UI looks much better than the version I have downloaded.
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I'll be happy to if you give me the path, or even the full name of the apk so I can search via root explorer.

scooter1979 said:
I'll be happy to if you give me the path.
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If you have a file manager, search /system/app and /system/priv-app for com.amazon. venezia. Or, use an app like titanium backup to back it up.
It's taking forever to upload the apk I'm using, so here's the link if you want to test if it works: https://www.amazon.com/appstore_android_app
If not, I think you will need to reflash, unfortunately.
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PorygonZRocks said:
There's a guide to find bootloader version: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/identify-bootloader-version-t3424634
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Used this method, I'm on 5.1.1 (5.4.1_112720 5.1.1). Dagnabbit, missed it by that much.

scooter1979 said:
Used this method, I'm on 5.1.1 (5.4.1_112720 5.1.1). Dagnabbit, missed it by that much.
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Then I'd recommend flashing 5.1.1. Like I said, if a downgrade method is found, it will probably be for older versions. Plus it's harder to brick, since only one or two versions are below it.
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PorygonZRocks said:
It's taking forever to upload the apk I'm using, so here's the link if you want to test if it works: https://www.amazon.com/appstore_android_app
If not, I think you will need to reflash, unfortunately.
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No go. Got a "Application Not Installed" error.
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Then I'd recommend flashing 5.1.1. Like I said, if a downgrade method is found, it will probably be for older versions. Plus it's harder to brick, since only one or two versions are below it.
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The thing there is, if the issue is indeed related to the age of the appstore, which doesn't look like it has been updated since the OS was, sideloading the same version would put me in the same boat I'm in now. If I drop 5.3.1 on there, that should fix me, assuming the age of the store is the underlying issue. Unless there's something I'm missing.

Ok, my venezia is attached.

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No go. Got a "Application Not Installed" error.
The thing there is, if the issue is indeed related to the age of the appstore, which doesn't look like it has been updated since the OS was, sideloading the same version would put me in the same boat I'm in now. If I drop 5.3.1 on there, that should fix me, assuming the age of the store is the underlying issue. Unless there's something I'm missing.
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A while back, I found a tutorial on how to upgrade system, but keep bootloader the same. Let me look...
Also, if it isn't the age of the app store, it has no effect. You could also try Amazon Underground app. It has a different package name, so it will install alongside the Appstore you have. This way, you can see if it has to do with the store or if it's just not working.
EDIT: Having trouble finding the link. I think what it was is you can download an update file, rename it from *.bin to *.zip, extract system.img, put it on the device, flash it, root, and disable ota immediately. I'll keep looking.
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Umm, you guys?...
Ya wanna hear something wacky? Just for the fart of it, I ran the apk I just uploaded on my own device, and, um, the store works now. Zero problems. Connects just fine.
Now don't I feel like a horse's patoot?
Well, if nothing else, I learned what DNS to block if I upgrade to 5.3.1, how to check my bootloader via hex editor, and to rely on the kindness of strangers to fall bassackwards into an easy solution. Yeesh.

scooter1979 said:
Ya wanna hear something wacky? Just for the fart of it, I ran the apk I just uploaded on my own device, and, um, the store works now. Zero problems. Connects just fine.
Now don't I feel like a horse's patoot?
Well, if nothing else, I learned what DNS to block if I upgrade to 5.3.1, how to check my bootloader via hex editor, and to rely on the kindness of strangers to fall bassackwards into an easy solution. Yeesh.
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Oh. Well, I found the thread, if you want. It gives instructions for FlashFire as well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594
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Ok, my venezia is attached.
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Was there a .odex in the folder, and/or a lib folder? If so, could you also upload that? If not, then it appears it will not work. Shame. Thanks for the apk.
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