Hi guys,
I just wanted to revive the Note 4 flicker discussions that have been going on.
Basically, I wanted to know if there's any news on if PWM can be disabled yet at maximum brightness? I'm going to have a poke around with the system and see if I can do anything. But I doubt it.
I've noticed a lot of people have been stating in thread replies that it's pointless, and can't be seen by humans, I just got my Note 4, after having an iPhone 6 for two weeks. (That thing drove me up the wall). Prior to that I had a Nexus 5 and an S4. I absolutely love the Note 4 in every way, including the display, it's incredible. But the flicker is horrid, especially in my peripheral vision. A lot of people can't see it, I wish I couldn't. You guys are lucky.
A lot of people have also stated that they have 20/20 vision and can't see a thing, and pass it off as rubbish. But having 20/20 vision has nothing to do with your ability to distinguish pulses of light. I honestly think it's something to do with the brain, rather than the eyes.
And a few people just say if you don't like it, go get another phone. But yeah, as stated the Note 4 is fantastic. Love the thing. Just don't like the flicker and I'd rather solve the issue.
So yeah, that is all!
Did you try another phone? Maybe you have a faulty unit.
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They all flicker. I add pictures how display brightness work in another thread. There is on low brightness just a few lines on pixels 2-3 mm wide lit and moving at high speed from upward down direction. I wish that could be disabled but maybe amoled technology can't go low brightness with constantly lit pixel like S2 - very small brightness adjustments.
Or maybe is that battery save thing...
go to dev options and turn animations, transition and everything else off. it should eliminate your flicker. also change your background image to solid black 256 x 144.
It's not animation, it's way how screens work. It reduce perceived brightness by liting up small row of pixels and scroll it at high speed.
It probably also save energy and also screen can last longer.
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S2 is solid one...
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Just tested this on my Note4. It does flicker when not set to maximum (or close to maximum) brightness at a rather low frequency - much lower than screen flicker in most other PWM-based screens. This is certainly VERY bad news.
It seems the only way of fixing this is driving the screen always at maximum brightness.
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Just tested this on my Note4. It does flicker when not set to maximum (or close to maximum) brightness at a rather low frequency - much lower than screen flicker in most other PWM-based screens. This is certainly VERY bad news.
It seems the only way of fixing this is driving the screen always at maximum brightness.
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But there is way, it it flawed on note. You could use filter to dim and set max brightness. But, note use top overlay over filter for spen function. Basically you capture dimed screen an in editor it dim it again. Also, spen circle is on max brightness....
All screens do this. Monitor, mobile phone, every single one. I can see it if I concentrate really really hard, but that's due to excellent vision and refresh rates etc etc. Every TV and phone i've had or looked at does this or something similar and i've had and used a lot.
Never gonna find a screen that doesn't. Try going and having a look at an Xperia Z3 lcd screen for a minute or two after using this phone and your worries will be null and void.
Not all monitors. And never full on/off state like amoled in note.
Black pixel and than white or whatever colors is displayed....
Tako look at my picture,. Note 4 in that time displayed full white background...
That why people who see flicker pwm in monitor perceive note 4 even harder...
I've never seen flicker like this before on any display. (Not taking into consideration CRTs).
And it doesn't matter how excellent your vision is. Being able to detect the PWM refresh probably has nothing to do with your eyes, let alone your excellent, perfectly spherical clear eyeball lens. I have stigmas in both eyes, everything is blurry for me and I can detect the flicker with ease. (One day I'll get glasses )
I'm just hoping it's fixable in software. Still, I can deal with it. This is like my fifth or something day with the note now, I'm loving it more every day and starting to care less about the flicker. You get used to it. *shrugs*
Are you guys still experiencing this flicker ? and have you found any solutions for it?
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Are you guys still experiencing this flicker ? and have you found any solutions for it?
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Yeah i found a good solution, i put it back in it's box and its for sale again.
This issue is deep into the hardware of how the display operates and cannot be modified. I'm using a Lumia right now, no nonsens device, everything is butter smooth and no crapware on it. Think i might switch for good now that windows 10 is a unified build on all windows devices, MS finally doing something good as well as win10 is free to everyone to update even on pirated versions.
Hehe ok, but did you notice flickering the whole time om your Note or just sometimes? And in all brightbess settings? I haven't notice any flickering on my device
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Hehe ok, but did you notice flickering the whole time om your Note or just sometimes? And in all brightbess settings? I haven't notice any flickering on my device
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Yeah some ppl dont see it and some do, i'm a pc gamer and when things dont run at 60fps i really see that, its the same thing with the flicker, when watching busy movies or playing games i dont really notice it, but when im browsing the internet or using whatsapp so basicly when there is a lot of white on the screen i can see it flicker, mosly on higher brightness settings. i'm really disapointed in this, its a really beautiful device and had very good things but the flicker is really a downside, id rater have a little less battery life than this flickering.
Ok i cant see any flickering on my device, but if i record the screen with the camera from another phone i can see some flickering, very strange
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look at this at 6:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIWYp6ZXe-s&list=UUO_vmeInQm5Z6dEZ6R5Kk0A&index=1&feature=plcp
i like way better the whites of iphone :crying:
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look at this at 6:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIWYp6ZXe-s&list=UUO_vmeInQm5Z6dEZ6R5Kk0A&index=1&feature=plcp
i like way better the whites of iphone :crying:
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Didn't watch the video, but the color temp is rather balanced. It isn't too warm. I own an iPhone 5 as well and the Nexus display looks just as good.
Quite honestly it's going to vary wildly from unit to unit as well. I recall once putting 4 iPhone 4's right next to one another and one was green, one was purple, one was orange, and one was blue.
Its not possible to gauge LCD color from a video because the camera changes what it thinks is supposed to be white to pure white, its called white balance. The camera is being white balanced to the iphone, which screws up the way the Nexus looks, it is probably white balancing the iphone because its a lot brighter.
Comparing the colors of LCD's from pictures is pointless, you have to know what you are doing and be using a camera that can set a manual white balance.
As for the whites on the Nexus 4, they are great but should actually be a little bit warmer.
I'm with the op..
I had my Nexus 4 up against an iphone 5 and there's no comparison, the iphone 5's screen blows it out of the water.
I then had it up to the old Galaxy S II I had and the screen was immensely better as well.
Only thing that it looked better then was my nexus 7, and that isnt saying much...
It can be different between devices. I've read that some devices didn't have time for the glue to fully cure and they had a warmer tint because of it, but after a couple days it was sorted out. Possibly the phone in the video has the same problem?
Check out this review. I linked to a spot where he has an all white page for a little bit and you can clearly see it's nowhere close to the phone in your video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4721lNCuteQ#t=186s
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Didn't watch the video, but the color temp is rather balanced. It isn't too warm. I own an iPhone 5 as well and the Nexus display looks just as good.
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if you own both,please wattch that video...are colors in iphone 5 display more vivid?
Much better comparison IMO here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E406xXr4Mok
And you guys are crazy, or are really hard to please, because this display is gorgeous.
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It can be different between devices. I've read that some devices didn't have time for the glue to fully cure and they had a warmer tint because of it, but after a couple days it was sorted out. Possibly the phone in the video has the same problem?
Check out this review. I linked to a spot where he has an all white page for a little bit and you can clearly see it's nowhere close to the phone in your video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4721lNCuteQ#t=186s
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Dude that's a Galaxy Nexus and an iphone 4... the guy is completely ripping off Armando Ferreira's video... and he has comments pending approval so nobody can correct him and put up a creative license LA so he won't be taken down... this has to be the biggest douchebag I've ever seen...
It is highly possible that even the Nexus 4 uses different IPS panels.
We've seen things like that in many devices, be it phones, laptops, and even TVs. Most prominent "case" is probably the Retina Macbook Pro where the LG made panel has way worse quality (LG normally makes god-tier panels, it's just that particular model where they screwed up) than the one manufactured by Samsung.
So, I'm almost certain that, even though LG makes their own panels, the Nexus 4 comes with different panels and some might have different characteristics.
Only side-by-side comparisons or teardowns of different batches will tell if there are in fact different screens used in the Nexus.
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if you own both,please wattch that video...are colors in iphone 5 display more vivid?
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The iPhone 5 is a tiny bit more vivid, but if you don't have them side by side it would be difficult to notice the difference. And the screen on my Nexus doesn't look extremely warm like the one in that video. Seems like he got a poorly calibrated unit, or maybe he had the brightness lower on the Nexus and it made it look warmer.
Here's some comparison shots with the iPhone 5.
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It looks like not every screen has the same color
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Didn't watch the video, but the color temp is rather balanced. It isn't too warm. I own an iPhone 5 as well and the Nexus display looks just as good.
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Here's some comparison shots with the iPhone 5.
At max brightness:
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i think you forgot the images
Has the chrome Browser a brightness setting feature? On my SGS I can set the brightness of the browser independent of the main setting of the OS!
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i think you forgot the images
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Sorry, imageshack was screwing with me. They're up now. To answer this thread, my Nexus 4 actually has a cooler screen than my iPhone 5.
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Sorry, imageshack was screwing with me. They're up now. To answer this thread, my Nexus 4 actually has a cooler screen than my iPhone 5.
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Wow...my Nexus 4 screen is almost identical to the iPod Touch 5G (the one with the same panel as the iPhone 5) in terms of temp and whites. That looks like a bad screen to me.
my screen is more in line with the pictures posted above....
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Wow...my Nexus 4 screen is almost identical to the iPod Touch 5G (the one with the same panel as the iPhone 5) in terms of temp and whites. That looks like a bad screen to me.
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The one in the video looks bad, I agree, but mine is fine. If anything, the iPhone 5's screen is slightly too warm, but in real world use (aka, not in pictures), my Nexus 4 and iPhone 5 screens look very similar.
The video doesn't mean anything, as someone stated before camera white balancing will do weird things to the image. The best any only way to accurately compare the two is side by side, in person..which is exactly what I did with my friend's iphone 5 yesterday. There is absolutely zero difference in quality between the two screens. Brightness is fantastic on both, colors look amazing, etc. Go test in person at an apple store or with a friend's iphone 5 and see for yourself.
So many conflicting reports regarding viewing angles.
What do does of you say that have gotten the N4 already? Are they really this bad:
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Check from 8.36: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3kvQDf0Do&list=UUgyqtNWZmIxTx3b6OxTSALw&index=6
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So many conflicting reports regarding viewing angles.
What do does of you say that have gotten the N4 already? Are they really this bad:
Check from 8.36: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3kvQDf0Do&list=UUgyqtNWZmIxTx3b6OxTSALw&index=6
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2 questions.
a) Are there 7 people using your phone at any one time where the 1st and the 7th person will be looking at the phone from that angle?
b) If a) is no, do you use your phone alone, at that angle. If so, might I ask what for?
Do you want to have a phone with wide viewing angles, on a 4.7 inch screen, just to say you have it? Or do you intentionally and typically hold your phone at that angle whenever you're showing your friends/family something on your phone?
Viewing angles bother me a little. When I let someone see my phone and besides them it looks "milky" at some angles
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mahwaha said:
So many conflicting reports regarding viewing angles.
What do does of you say that have gotten the N4 already? Are they really this bad:
Check from 8.36: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3kvQDf0Do&list=UUgyqtNWZmIxTx3b6OxTSALw&index=6
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That pic seems unusally bad, but viewing angles are way worse than HTC one X.
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I'm with poison on this one do u really hold your phone at an angle for regular usage? I use my to watch videos at work with 4 people and haven't had a problem with the viewing angle. Had mine since Thanksgiving and its the best screen by far I've had. That's saying a lot to. I know u aren't comparing it to this but my I can't even use my 2 phones with super amoled now cause the colors look fake to me.
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Mine is fine (great for an LCD) from all angles.. I don't really see why people make such a fuss over this. The screen only sacrifices a little bit of brightness at an extreme angle, but it's really not much of an issue.
A great feature that saves ur money from privacy film
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Yes there are people who look at their phone from that angle, just like there are people who view their screens under a magnifying glass and don't want to see pixels so need the screen to be 1 PPI over all the other phones.
dafuqq, you guys don't hold your phones at weird angles just to show off your awesome viewing angles like me??
Seriously though, there is something special about screens with perfect viewing angles imo (like the HOX). They are just simply stunningly flawless, no matter how you look at them. What's the reason for zerogap anyway when you can't look at the screen from an angle and see the text floating ontop?
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Mine is fine (great for an LCD) from all angles.. I don't really see why people make such a fuss over this. The screen only sacrifices a little bit of brightness at an extreme angle, but it's really not much of an issue.
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Do you mean that you don't get the same distortion as in the image? Curious if there might be different panels.
I have a similar problem. It seems like every time I put my phone face down on a table I can only see a small amount of light on the sides. Also the brightness needs to be set pretty high to see it... weird.
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The viewing angle is fine.
If you have to look at your phone from that angle, you are looking it wrong™
This type of screen doesn't have the best viewing angle. Who cares? It is a phone and the other qualities of a zero gap ISP, lcd more than make up for it. Why would viewing angles be a major priority for any company designing a phone?
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Yeah the side viewing angles are much worse on the N4 than they were on my Galaxy Nexus. But as other have said, who cares? If I want to see what is on my phone's screen I will look directly at it.
I have no problems with the viewing angles. I think they're quite good. They're not the best out there but they're definitely above average.
The viewing angles do suck, if my phone is on the table and it lights up from a notification i have to pick the phone up to read it (not a big deal but annoying). or if i am trying to show a funny ass video from YouTube everyone has to gather around tightly just to see it clearly. I love the screen but the angles could be better.
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What are you guys smoking? This phone has great viewing angles. It's bad when colors completely shift from an angle... which my phone doesn't do at all. In fact, most of the time I have to have my phone at min brightness at night. I get eye strain with this thing even on auto brightness at night. It's night and day better than the galaxy nexus. Even with melange setting with Trinity Kernel, the gnex had much worse viewing angles for me... almost a total shift to blue, and the brightness is night and day! I would be more worried about yellow spots and light bleed with this type of screen than the viewing angles.
Coming from a One X, you'll notice how bad the viewing angles are.
Coming from any other phone, you won't notice because it's what you're used to.
As for viewing your phone at an angle, I often have the phone on my desk and view it without picking it up. I'm one of the few who have been spoilt by the One X, so I certainly notice the bad viewing angles a lot.
Having said that, apart from the screen and the camera, the N4 kicks arse over the One X.
This thread shows how people cry about anything.
Besides, at anything more than absolute min brightness, I can read this whole thread perfectly fine at 170 or so degree. the ONLY thing is you get a metallic-reflection. But everything is crisp and bright.
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can anyone see the capacitive sensors when the screen is off? I'm bringing it up because I can only achieve this at extreme angles when viewed in direct light.
crazyald said:
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can anyone see the capacitive sensors when the screen is off? I'm bringing it up because I can only achieve this at extreme angles when viewed in direct light.
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Not really sure why you even bring this up... But yeah you can see them when the light hits right..
Hey everyone,
I've been noticing this weird thing with my Note. When I go under the sun and its bright, my screen becomes completely over saturated!
Closes comparation i can find is this except its even more bright! Anyone else got this issue?
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mgbotoe said:
Hey everyone,
I've been noticing this weird thing with my Note. When I go under the sun and its bright, my screen becomes completely over saturated!
Closes comparation i can find is this except its even more bright! Anyone else got this issue?
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I have noticed it as well, I just figured it was to be able to see whatever is on the screen better when in direct sunlinght
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Yeah, that's when the screen goes into super turbo boost mode lol.
When Automatic Brightness is turned On, the Galaxy Note 4 reaches an impressive 750 cd/m2 in High Ambient Light, where high Brightness is really needed – it is the brightest mobile display that we have ever tested. As a result of its high Brightness and low Reflectance, the Galaxy Note 4 has a Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light that ranges from 100 to156, the highest that we have ever measured for any mobile display.
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And just so you might wonder why the screen is so dark lol
Super Dimming Mode
The Galaxy Note 4 also has a Super Dimming Mode that allows the Maximum Screen Brightness to be set all the way down to just 2 cd/m2 (nits) using the Brightness Slider. This is useful for working comfortably without eye strain or bothering others in very dark environments, or affecting the eye’s dark adaptation, such as when using a telescope. The display still delivers full 24-bit color and the picture quality remains excellent.
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mgbotoe said:
Hey everyone,
I've been noticing this weird thing with my Note. When I go under the sun and its bright, my screen becomes completely over saturated!
Closes comparation i can find is this except its even more bright! Anyone else got this issue?
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Did you try unchecking Auto Adjust Screen Tone under Settings, then Display?
Yeah i noticed the same thing and thought it was a problem but its a boost in brightness
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Yeah i noticed the same thing and thought it was a problem but its a boost in brightness
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It is a Samsung feature with auto bright to allow the screen to be easier to read in sun. It was meant to be a feature anyway.
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Yeah, that's when the screen goes into super turbo boost mode lol.
And just so you might wonder why the screen is so dark lol
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That is so stupid...make the screen look defected...wtf...
mgbotoe said:
That is so stupid...make the screen look defected...wtf...
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lol.. the point is to make sure whatever you're viewing is legible and readable. Even in the harshest sunlight this mode makes it possible. You are full of complaints arent ya! ^_^
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lol.. the point is to make sure whatever you're viewing is legible and readable. Even in the harshest sunlight this mode makes it possible. You are full of complaints arent ya! ^_^
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Considering it is the only one i got...I guess I am.
Still having an exchange, perhaps what im not seeing what you all are talking about...it happens for a brief 5 second and goes to a normal screen (Can't even read so if its a feature, it failed). Putting in the order tomorrow. Thanks for the help anyway ^.^
mgbotoe said:
Considering it is the only one i got...I guess I am.
Still having an exchange, perhaps what im not seeing what you all are talking about...it happens for a brief 5 second and goes to a normal screen (Can't even read so if its a feature, it failed). Putting in the order tomorrow. Thanks for the help anyway ^.^
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Happened to me today, but everything was still legible....looks crazy at first....thought my screen was talking a s***. But yes it is a feature that needs some tweaking, but apparently as long as auto brightness is Not selected it won't switch like that in bright sunlight. Looks kinda like a negative polarization effect with a bright wash.
And are ya switching phones or swapping for another note....because the "issue" will be on any note 4
Meth... Not even once.
mgbotoe said:
Hey everyone,
I've been noticing this weird thing with my Note. When I go under the sun and its bright, my screen becomes completely over saturated!
Closes comparation i can find is this except its even more bright! Anyone else got this issue?
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Same here. ...guess I will get used to it
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Did you try unchecking Auto Adjust Screen Tone under Settings, then Display?
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Isn't that setting for auto brightness? I want it to adjust brightness from light to dark rooms. But I don't want super nuclear mode in the sunlight. Looks terrible. Was trying to shoot pictures the other day with the sun at my back and I wasn't sure if it was the camera acting up or the screen. Only after I took the pictures and reviewed them later (indoors) did I realize they were ok. They need to fix this.
I love this feature. If you hover your finger over anything it puts a shadow over it. Pretty tight imo
Im not the biggest fan of this, it makes everything look really weird, especially when your trying to film something or take a photo as its hard to see what its actually going to look like. But i guess it does make the screen more visible. FYI disabling auto adjust screen tone makes no difference
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Definitely not a Note 7, which sets the standard for true blacks. I'll bet this screen is easier on the battery.
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Definitely not a Note 7, which sets the standard for true blacks. I'll bet this screen is easier on the battery.
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I'm going to disagree. The Note7 is a standard for "true black" because it is actually true black. An LED/OLED/AMOLED/etc display accomplishes black by simply shutting off an LED pixel, thus creating a 100% TRUE black. (Also, LED being off is using 0 energy).
LCD's on the other hand require backlighting, thus anytime the screen is on, the entire thing is lit. This is why no LCD will ever accomplish a 100% true black. It's also the reason why LCD's tend to be more of a battery hog because all pixels, even black ones, require lighting which requires energy.
To see the difference, put an AMOLED and LCD screen phone beside each other in a dark room and do a google image search for 000000, click one of the results and view it full screen. The AMOLED phone will appear to be off and the LCD phone will still be giving off light.
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I don't know if everybody know this but the note 7 is irrelevant.
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I don't know if everybody know this but the note 7 is irrelevant.
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DING DING DING We have a winner!!!!
Note 4 Note 7 no difference for this discussion same AMOLED panel.
the LGv20 has a nice screen. very nice screen in fact (I now have one) it is not REMOTELY as good as my note 4 screen.
way way way to high a color temp on the panel. its damned near blue. not remotely white. when I use low warming it helps a little but not much. you get used to it but you really really notice in large areas of white.
the blacks are ok but again. horrid if you are used to an oled panel. I hope LG puts an oled panel in the V30 since I know they have the tech (their oled televisions are drop dead sexy alas way way outside of anything remotely in my budget)
what helps is that it has the 1440p panel. this really is the ideal resolution for a 5.5 to 6 inch panel where 1080p is just lacking noticeably. you adjust to the high temperature you don't adjust to low resolution.
sadly so far the camera is crap at night. grrr. was hoping for better. have not really tested in in daytime yet though I expect it will be fine.
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Note 4 Note 7 no difference for this discussion same AMOLED panel.
the LGv20 has a nice screen. very nice screen in fact (I now have one) it is not REMOTELY as good as my note 4 screen.
way way way to high a color temp on the panel. its damned near blue. not remotely white. when I use low warming it helps a little but not much. you get used to it but you really really notice in large areas of white.
the blacks are ok but again. horrid if you are used to an oled panel. I hope LG puts an oled panel in the V30 since I know they have the tech (their oled televisions are drop dead sexy alas way way outside of anything remotely in my budget)
what helps is that it has the 1440p panel. this really is the ideal resolution for a 5.5 to 6 inch panel where 1080p is just lacking noticeably. you adjust to the high temperature you don't adjust to low resolution.
sadly so far the camera is crap at night. grrr. was hoping for better. have not really tested in in daytime yet though I expect it will be fine.
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So turn down the blue. Nougat lets you.
Hmm.. Coming from a note 7... The 7 still has a better screen.. But increase brightness to 60 and up and it looks really great. Can't complain.
Yeah the blacks cant compare to my note 4 but at least the viewing angle is good enough. Dont notice any colour shift at any reasonable angle.
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Has anyone fiddled with the Color settings under Accessibility menu? I wonder if those would help.....anybody have success?
Zeromus2003 said:
Has anyone fiddled with the Color settings under Accessibility menu? I wonder if those would help.....anybody have success?
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There's already a thread all about it
It's not much of a thread tbh. I've just read it.
Amoled vs LCD. Note 4 vs V20. You win some you lose some. Having come from Amoled screens (Nexus 6, Note 4, etc) you get spoiled by blacks. However, the colors on the V20 are fantastic. I am a weekend pro photographer and can tell you I feel the V20 is way more natural than the over saturated colors of an Amoled screen. Also viewing angles on the V20 maintain colors while the Note 4 does not.
But back to black levels. This is good for an LCD screen and turning off the top display improves it a lot. The black level is good but it is a dark grey. But when you watch Netflix etc in the dark it is not bad at all. Not Amoled good but definitely not bad.
OK so having done some more watching with the lights totally off, I can say this is a disaster in terms of black levels. I watched 10 minutes of Lord Of The Rings and pretty much stopped.
A user on Reddit posted that they had rainbow effects on their P7 screen when the screen was held at an angle. I did a little searching, and found that this was fairly common on the P6 screens as well. Apparently Google found that this was a normal effect and in tolerance with their manufacturing specifications.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel7series/comments/y3af8s
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/qo6wz7
Do you see any rainbow effects on your P7 screens?
I noticed it yesterday when the phone was about three feet away from me on the table. Maybe at a 45 degree angle it rainbows, but holding it, or being close to it, shows no signs of it. It doesn't bother me since the way I "normally" hold and use it do not produce the effect. Only if it's at a big enough angle. Even so, it is very minor. When I did see it I had to move my head back and forth to really notice it. Otherwise the screen just looks a little off color on parts of the screen. No biggie.
condor97 said:
A user on Reddit posted that they had rainbow effects on their P7 screen when the screen was held at an angle. I did a little searching, and found that this was fairly common on the P6 screens as well. Apparently Google found that this was a normal effect and in tolerance with their manufacturing specifications.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel7series/comments/y3af8s
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/qo6wz7
Do you see any rainbow effects on your P7 screens?
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The phenomenon of lenses causing light to split into its component parts is called "diffraction". Any transparent medium where light travels at a different speed from the medium it came from will exhibit this phenomenon.
Mine has a slight blueish and pink tint on white at angles. I'm not sure what to do. It's not bad, I don't really notice it. I would be happy to exchange it if I knew there were some displays that didn't have this issue.
Mine has that too. But geezes, you have to be looking at the phone at an extreme angle to notice it.
Thanks for posting your experiences guys. I tried to edit the poll to reflect a vote where the issue is present but doesn't cause a problem. You should be able to change your vote. Hopefully I didn't screw things up there, and if I did, my apologies.
I notice it but the bigger issue is the green tint, just looks awful compared to my calibrated monitors.
My old S8 had a bit of a reddish tint but the colors looked better overall if a bit oversaturated. Might try to root and use Sa2ration or something.
My Pixel 6 Pro did. The Pixel 7 Pro does not.
Ok I can weigh in now. I see the exact same effect on this phone as my other oled phones. When you look at the screen at more extreme angles, you get a bluish tint to white screens. Really not an issue for me, and I don't consider it a rainbow effect (though I think it is the same thing).
On my pixel 7 I get the rainbow effect on white backgrounds when looking directly at the screen not at an angle. The screen on my Samsung a53 is much better then the screen on my pixel 7
people cant enjoy the phone for what it is...just buy the damn thing and enjoy it, its not like its noticeable if you looking at it from a normal view
I think it also depends on the kind of person you are. At work I asked 10 people and only one colleague noticed a slight shift. My iPhone XS Max back in the days also had this issue. I traded it in and got a new one, which had the same issue. I then used the phone for another 2 years and aside from the first week it didn't bothered me anymore.
They all have it. Some more than others. If you're looking for it, it's there. If you just use your phone it will disappear and just leave an excellent phone to enjoy.
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people cant enjoy the phone for what it is...just buy the damn thing and enjoy it, its not like its noticeable if you looking at it from a normal view
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i agree
Maybe a bit, but only at extreme angles. Any normal angle I'd look at my phone I can't see anything.
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My Pixel 6 Pro did. The Pixel 7 Pro does not.
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My p6 pro doesn't have it, even at angles and full brightness, weird
Mine has bluegreenish and redish wave-tints on angles displaying white backgrounds. But I got enough other problems in life. So ... idc
I have had three Pixel 7 (non Pro) - all of them had the same rainbow effect.
And this is quite annoying because you can not really keep 100% the same angle by reading or looking at the display while holding the smartphone in the hand. You always move a bit - and then the blue or red waves are rolling over your screen.
For me the display is one of the most important components - the display you are looking at all the time you are using the device.
But that's just my point of view...
At first I had no clue what people were talking about, but after turning the brightness to 100% and tilting the phone in an angle I'll never use (since its impossible to look at the screen since its so tilted) - then yes.
I do have the rainbow-effect on my Pixel 7.
However, its a non-issue.
I had to tilt it even more than the person in the video from OP,
but even that angle seems like a non-issue tbh.
Might as well be my protective glass for all I know.
I'll never see it unless I tilt to an unusable angle.
chopt51 said:
Mine has a slight blueish and pink tint on white at angles. I'm not sure what to do. It's not bad, I don't really notice it. I would be happy to exchange it if I knew there were some displays that didn't have this issue.
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Upgrade to the Pixel 7 Pro since it doesn't have this issue since they didn't cheap out on the display. Seems they didn't change the screen from the Pixel 6 since XDA actually mentioned this in the review they did on the screen: "Rigid OLEDs are an older construction that is now usually only used in budget phones...Also, on rigid stacks, the refraction of the light transmitted through the glass layers causes unwanted rainbow viewing angles that you simply don't see on flexible OLEDs."
I personally find it annoying but only because I know about it now and only really noticeable if you looking at the phone at extreme angle like sitting on your desk or other flat surface. My fancy expensive larger S7+ Samsung tablet also has same issue so obviously doesn't bother enough people for them to spend more to upgrade the display to get rid of it. Also, pretty anoying that my much older LG v35 phone doesn't have this problem either since it was flexible OLED, but as you can see flexible OLED easier to break around edges, another reason I went with Pixel 7 instead of the Pixel 7 Pro.
Pixel 7 Pro: it does not have any rainbow issues.
Here's a pic I took of my S7+, iphone SE, LG V35 and Pixel 7 and can u guess which one is the Pixel? Easy to spot since only other one than the large S7 with the rainbow colors. Also, as you can see from the pic most noticeable on a clear white background so if you work or look at a lot of that like say documents at angle might be annoying enough but not to upgrade to the Pixel 7 Pro just to get rid of it. Even if you did you would still get bluish color like on the LG V35 OLED display at bottom because that's just how OLED works
Why do I see a color shift when I look at the display from an angle?
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