I was just about to buy a xt 1058 sim unlocked, just now i find out people are saying that with the 1058 you cant unlock the bootloader, for the at&t variant?... but the phone is unlocked free for any carrier, so the bootloder cant be unlocked in this phone? please help i need to know this
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Correct, the only way at present to unlock the bootloader on the xt1058 is to pay for the Sunshine app, http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471 but only if your phone's version is prior to 4.4.4, though it appears it's "possible" it can work with 4.4.4
M973 said:
Correct, the only way at present to unlock the bootloader on the xt1058 is to pay for the Sunshine app, http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471 but only if your phone's version is prior to 4.4.4, though it appears it's "possible" it can work with 4.4.4
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Its a Sim unlocked phone (no carrier) but the number is still 1058, im in Latin America, the phone has no logos in the back, i think only the verizion and at&t versions can't be unlocked... but i dont know, so ALL 1058 have the bootloader locked?
I guess if your carrier can provide the unlock code, but I believe not from Motorola
Just check which model you have.
If its an XT1058, its the AT&T model. You can request a sim unlock code from AT&T free of charge directly here: https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
Otherwise, buy it from ebay for around 10$
Now if you want to unlock the bootloader to flash different firmwares, AT&T phones (XT1058) don't allow that by getting the code from Motorola directly, so you need to use a tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471
It costs 25$ and it only works on phones that have an android OS lower than 4.4.4 installed!
To expand on what @dagoban said...
SIM Lock/Unlock (aka Carrier unlock) is different from Bootloader Lock/Unlock.
SIM Unlock is usually possible by buying the code from many 3rd party web sites on the internet. And sometimes your carrier will supply the code (you may have to meet carrier requirements) for free or a small fee.
When it comes to Bootloader unlocking, that is only needed if you want to easily root, or the ability to flash a custom recovery (Like TWRP, CWM, Philz) or 3rd party ROM (like CM).
For the Developer Editions Moto X, and some carrier editions (Like T-Mobile, Sprint, Rogers Canada, and others), Motorola freely gives away the BootLoader Unlock codes when requested On Motorola's Web Site. In the case of the Non-Developer Editions, it voids their warranty to request the code.
I'm not going to go into the reasons why, but Moto does NOT give out the bootloader unlock code for the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon, ATT, Republic Wireless and a few other carriers. For these you need to rely on someone finding a HACK( Sunshine was mentioned) but this can often times have requirements/restrictions. At one time, someone got a hold of Moto's Bootloader Unlock code database, and was selling codes to Verizon, ATT, etc users who couldn't otherwise unlock their bootloader, but this has since stopped.
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I currently have a rooted AT&T Moto X. I want to be able to unlock my bootloader so I can install other ROMs. My question is, if I purchase an unlock key from one of the sites on the Internet, will this allow me to unlock the bootloader? ... or is this just a SIM unlock? Is it maybe possible to bootloader unlock my AT&T phone without purchasing an unlock key? I've looked but I've yet to run into any documentation that says I can.
Much thanks for any help.
redeuxx said:
I currently have a rooted AT&T Moto X. I want to be able to unlock my bootloader so I can install other ROMs. My question is, if I purchase an unlock key from one of the sites on the Internet, will this allow me to unlock the bootloader? ... or is this just a SIM unlock? Is it maybe possible to bootloader unlock my AT&T phone without purchasing an unlock key? I've looked but I've yet to run into any documentation that says I can.
Much thanks for any help.
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i'vve seen no sites selling bootloader unlock codes for the Moto X. (Other than that Chinese site/middleman deal)
What you are seeing are likely only SIM unlock codes for sale.
The info/thread on the Chinese site/middleman being back is the only way to obtain a bootloader unlock code for the ATT X.
There is no way to unlock the bootloader without the code.
KidJoe said:
i'vve seen no sites selling bootloader unlock codes for the Moto X. (Other than that Chinese site/middleman deal)
What you are seeing are likely only SIM unlock codes for sale.
The info/thread on the Chinese site/middleman being back is the only way to obtain a bootloader unlock code for the ATT X.
There is no way to unlock the bootloader without the code.
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Does unlocking the bootloader also unlock the SIM? I'm on Verizon, it doesn't seem like I've ever had to manipulate a SIM card in anyway. Is it because CDMA carrier don't use it?
jamesino said:
Does unlocking the bootloader also unlock the SIM? I'm on Verizon, it doesn't seem like I've ever had to manipulate a SIM card in anyway. Is it because CDMA carrier don't use it?
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Unlocking the bootloader and sim unlocking are two different things.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you to flash/install unsigned or 3rd party supplied parts/partitions (like recovery, modified or custom roms, etc), and that in turn allows you to easily root. Motorola gives out the Bootloader unlock codes for the Developer Edition X and some carrier editions (like T-Mobile and Sprint). For ATT and Verizon (non-developer), Moto does NOT give out the codes (likely due to carrier's wishes). No one has cracked the bootloader lock on the X yet, so to bootloader unlock the Verizon (non-Dev) and ATT X the Chinese Website/Middleman selling the bootloader unlock codes is the only way you'll be able to do this.
SIM unlocking allows you to use the SIM from other carriers in your phone.
Phones that are purely CDMA/EVDO only, like the HTC Incredible, Original Motorola Droid, etc, do not use a SIM and therefore there is no "SIM" unlocking for them. Those phones have an ESN burned into them. The carriers only accept ESN numbers of phones which were made for them (couldn't take a CDMA/EVDO phone from another carrier and use it on Verizon because VZW wouldn't allow the ESN). Verizon's phone's started using SIM slots when they added GSM Global Roaming to phones like the Blackberry 9930 and such. They were sim locked to Vodafone (Verizon's international roaming partner). They could be SIM unlocked for global roaming by calling Verizon's international department directly and requesting the SIM unlock code. Usually telling them something like "I am traveling over seas and I want to use a local pre-paid SIM when I get there), can I have the SIM unlock code for my phone?" would get you the code.
With the introduction of LTE, Verizon is using SIM cards for both LTE and GSM. Verizon's LTE phones are SIM unlocked due to the FCC rules around the 700Mhz C block auction they won years ago. The Moto X, Galaxy S4, Galaxy S5, and others are all SIM unlocked right out of the box. Other carriers like ATT and T-Mobile, ship their phones SIM locked, so to put a T-Mobile SIM in an ATT phone, you need to SIM unlock it first. The exception being something like the X where T-Mobile doesn't sell it directly, Moto does, and ships a SIM unlocked version with a T-Mobile sim.
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Unlocking the bootloader and sim unlocking are two different things.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you to flash/install unsigned or 3rd party supplied parts/partitions (like recovery, modified or custom roms, etc), and that in turn allows you to easily root. Motorola gives out the Bootloader unlock codes for the Developer Edition X and some carrier editions (like T-Mobile and Sprint). For ATT and Verizon (non-developer), Moto does NOT give out the codes (likely due to carrier's wishes). No one has cracked the bootloader lock on the X yet, so to bootloader unlock the Verizon (non-Dev) and ATT X the Chinese Website/Middleman selling the bootloader unlock codes is the only way you'll be able to do this.
SIM unlocking allows you to use the SIM from other carriers in your phone.
Phones that are purely CDMA/EVDO only, like the HTC Incredible, Original Motorola Droid, etc, do not use a SIM and therefore there is no "SIM" unlocking for them. Those phones have an ESN burned into them. The carriers only accept ESN numbers of phones which were made for them (couldn't take a CDMA/EVDO phone from another carrier and use it on Verizon because VZW wouldn't allow the ESN). Verizon's phone's started using SIM slots when they added GSM Global Roaming to phones like the Blackberry 9930 and such. They were sim locked to Vodafone (Verizon's international roaming partner). They could be SIM unlocked for global roaming by calling Verizon's international department directly and requesting the SIM unlock code. Usually telling them something like "I am traveling over seas and I want to use a local pre-paid SIM when I get there), can I have the SIM unlock code for my phone?" would get you the code.
With the introduction of LTE, Verizon is using SIM cards for both LTE and GSM. Verizon's LTE phones are SIM unlocked due to the FCC rules around the 700Mhz C block auction they won years ago. The Moto X, Galaxy S4, Galaxy S5, and others are all SIM unlocked right out of the box. Other carriers like ATT and T-Mobile, ship their phones SIM locked, so to put a T-Mobile SIM in an ATT phone, you need to SIM unlock it first. The exception being something like the X where T-Mobile doesn't sell it directly, Moto does, and ships a SIM unlocked version with a T-Mobile sim.
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Would it make sense to unlock the bootloader for republic wireless moto x?
androiddoglover6969 said:
Would it make sense to unlock the bootloader for republic wireless moto x?
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It depends on what you want to do with your phone.
If you want to root no matter what RW pushes to your phone, and you don't mind voiding your warranty... then yes.
I don't have RW, but from what I understand, their Bootloader is locked, and like with Verizon and ATT, Moto doesn't give out the unlock codes for RW. So your only choice is the 3rd party Chinese website/middleman.
There is a thread for RW, and what can be done while the bootloader is locked. Its pretty much the same as VZW and ATT users... if you have 4.2.2 or 4.4 on your phone you can root and disable write protection by using SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo processes, and if you want to run 4.4.2, you can make use of Safestrap (assuming your phone is still on 4.4 or lower to root it). BUT if you already have taken the 4.4.2 update, or flashed a 4.4.2 SBF, you are stuck unless you can unlock the boot loader.
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It depends on what you want to do with your phone.
If you want to root no matter what RW pushes to your phone, and you don't mind voiding your warranty... then yes.
I don't have RW, but from what I understand, their Bootloader is locked, and like with Verizon and ATT, Moto doesn't give out the unlock codes for RW. So your only choice is the 3rd party Chinese website/middleman.
There is a thread for RW, and what can be done while the bootloader is locked. Its pretty much the same as VZW and ATT users... if you have 4.2.2 or 4.4 on your phone you can root and disable write protection by using SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo processes, and if you want to run 4.4.2, you can make use of Safestrap (assuming your phone is still on 4.4 or lower to root it). BUT if you already have taken the 4.4.2 update, or flashed a 4.4.2 SBF, you are stuck unless you can unlock the boot loader.
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I did motowpnomo and disabled wp. I have 4.4.2 update with root using this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-republic-wireless-moto-x-kitkat-4-t2738233
What I want to do is to get rid of this error message "com.motorola.process.system" ? I did everything I tried on google search.
safemode,
date&time
cache & dalvik cache
But one thing I have not done is factory reset. I am unsure I can do that to keep my root on 4.4.2. That is why I'm asking if I do bootloader unlocked, even if I screw up and lose my root or not, I will still be safe with root after because I have bootloader right?
Or if you can help me with any further information you seem to be very good in this area.
androiddoglover6969 said:
I did motowpnomo and disabled wp. I have 4.4.2 update with root using this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-republic-wireless-moto-x-kitkat-4-t2738233
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That is rooting, then using Safestrap to make use of 4.4.2... its more involved than unlocking the bootloader and rooting.
androiddoglover6969 said:
What I want to do is to get rid of this error message "com.motorola.process.system" ? I did everything I tried on google search.
safemode,
date&time
cache & dalvik cache
But one thing I have not done is factory reset. I am unsure I can do that to keep my root on 4.4.2. That is why I'm asking if I do bootloader unlocked, even if I screw up and lose my root or not, I will still be safe with root after because I have bootloader right?
Or if you can help me with any further information you seem to be very good in this area.
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I don't use safestrap so I don't want to advise you, and possibly get it wrong.
I can say that once you unlock the bootloader, you can just flash a custom recovery, boot to the custom recovery and install SuperSU to gain root. This can be done no matter what rom is on your phone, even 4.4.2. You can factory reset, flash an SBF, take an OTA and still be able to root it. (of course some caveats apply in taking an OTA see -> HERE) And you can flash a custom/3rd party rom if you want too.
I just bought a Moto X XT1058 and it came with Android 4.4.2 installed.
I want to install this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/kernel-001-kk44-gsm3-4-hybrid-oc-t2645356
and be able to use it's overclock function...
Can someone say to me what I need to do to be able to do that ? (Everything with this phone is a little bit confusing like rooting, bootloader and stuff)
Also, I need to know if what everyone refer to as OTAs are the software updates that my own device suggest and if I still can update my phone like that with that kernel.
Since you already have 4.4.2 on your phone, I'll discuss your options with 4.4.2. The past exploits used to root and disable write protection have been patched in 4.4.2, so you can't use processes like SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo.
You mention wanting to run a custom kernel, I believe that requires an unlocked bootloader.
For the Developer Editions Moto X, and some carrier editions (Like T-Mobile, Sprint and others), Motorola freely gives away the BootLoader Unlock codes when requested On Motorola's Web Site. In the case of the Non-Developer Editions, it voids their warranty to request the code.
If you are unable to get an unlock code from there, you're only other option was the "Chinese Website/Middleman" option which is down/not working again.
So check Moto's site first, if you can get the bootloader unlock code for your phone, you're good to go, and you can root and disable write protection. NOTE: IF your carrier branded XT1058 is eligible for the unlock code from Moto, it sometimes has taken a few days after you receive your phone before the unlock code is available.
If you can't get your bootloader unlock code from Moto's web site, you are out of luck for now.
someone told me it is possible to jtag my moto x runnong 4.4.2 in order to make it a dev edition , but said tht after i would not recevie any updtae which is fine ............is this possible and if so could someone direct me on how to or refer me to site tht tells me how
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someone told me it is possible to jtag my moto x runnong 4.4.2 in order to make it a dev edition , but said tht after i would not recevie any updtae which is fine ............is this possible and if so could someone direct me on how to or refer me to site tht tells me how
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I have not heard of that.
Besides the physical appearance, when it comes to the difference between the "Developer Edition" and Retail or Moto Maker edition, the only difference is unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't void the warranty, but on the "non-Dev" it does void the warranty.
For the most part, Motorola gives the bootloader unlock code away for free on their web site, along with the instructions to unlock. The exception being in the case of a few carriers like ATT, Verizon and Republic Wireless, where for what appears to be carrier requirements, they do NOT give out the code.
If you have ATT, VZW or Republic Wireless, and have an X built in 2014, see the China Middle Man is back thread in the general section about getting a bootloader unlock code from the only way possible at this time. But yes, it does void the warranty
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I have not heard of that.
Besides the physical appearance, when it comes to the difference between the "Developer Edition" and Retail or Moto Maker edition, the only difference is unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't void the warranty, but on the "non-Dev" it does void the warranty.
For the most part, Motorola gives the bootloader unlock code away for free on their web site, along with the instructions to unlock. The exception being in the case of a few carriers like ATT, Verizon and Republic Wireless, where for what appears to be carrier requirements, they do NOT give out the code.
If you have ATT, VZW or Republic Wireless, and have an X built in 2014, see the China Middle Man is back thread in the general section about getting a bootloader unlock code from the only way possible at this time. But yes, it does void the warranty
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thank you for your response I do know that the unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty but again I ask is there any way to JTAG in order to unlock for att or verizonhas anyone looked into that and how reliable are the Chinese middleman for unlocking the bootloader
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thank you for your response I do know that the unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty but again I ask is there any way to JTAG in order to unlock for att or verizonhas anyone looked into that and how reliable are the Chinese middleman for unlocking the bootloader
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I have seen NOTHING on using JTAG to unlock the bootloader on the Moto X.
Since its release, the only way to UNLOCK the Bootloader on the X has been to get the unlock code.
How reliable is the middle man? Just read that thread. If the build date on your phone is 2014, you will likely be able to get a code. The middle man doesn't have "real time access" to the database containing the unlock codes, so if your phone was built a week ago, you might have to wait. As long as you meet those conditions, you'll likely get your code. In cases where the middle man didn't have the code, he's refunded the money.
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
hawkdown77 said:
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
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Nope. Not if the bootloader is unlocked...
Good Luck
hawkdown77 said:
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
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You might, but with an unlocked bootlaoder you can easily re-root at any time.
I got a used sim-free AT&T moto x 1058 (2013) 1058. it has Android 4.4.4 and a 30.B7 (sha-bae5e20, 2014-6-23 18:44:49) locked bootloader.
I am not a AT&T user and don't like the fact that I have their bloatware on my phone and that I am totally depended on them to update my phone.
I went to Motorola official website to try and unlock my bootloader like I did in the past with devices I purchased directly from Motorola and got a massage saying "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"
So what are my options to unlock my bootloader?
As for your options with the locked bootloader, you have none, period. Nothing will unlock it because the AT&T variant is not one that's capable of being bootloader unlocked (a requirement set by AT&T afaik) with any bootloader other than the original one (30.07 iirc) and running a build before 4.4.
So, you have a Moto X that potentially could be carrier unlocked to use with another cellular provider but that is only possible if your IMEI doesn't start with 35321 because those apparently can't be without a lot of hassles if at all) but that's it.
I actually just got a Moto X from Motorola as a replacement exchange - it was Android 4.2.2 with bootloader B0.07 which was the original one and I could pretty much do anything with it I wanted but I wasn't going to pay the $25 for Sunshine (which would unlock the bootloader, tested and verified). I never really had intentions of keeping the Moto X anyway so I went ahead and did the updates which of course ruined that original pristine state.
Your option is to sell the XT1058 and buy a XT1053
I have an unlocked Moto G6 that I am trying to flash with Verizon firmware. Can anyone point me in the right direction? A google search has shown nothing.
fmj77 said:
I have an unlocked Moto G6 that I am trying to flash with Verizon firmware. Can anyone point me in the right direction? A google search has shown nothing.
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What do you mean by unlocked. There bootloader unlock and sim unlock. Sim unlock just allows you to use another network. Bootloader unlock allows to to flash. Also there is no Verizon firmware to flash because the Verizon model can't be bootloader unlocked which means you can't flash it. Verizon and att are notoriously the worst when it comes to having there phones eligible to be bootloader unlocked
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What do you mean by unlocked. There bootloader unlock and sim unlock. Sim unlock just allows you to use another network. Bootloader unlock allows to to flash. Also there is no Verizon firmware to flash because the Verizon model can't be bootloader unlocked which means you can't flash it. Verizon and att are notoriously the worst when it comes to having there phones eligible to be bootloader unlocked
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I guess it's SIM unlocked since I can pretty much use it with any carrier by swapping the SIM card. I bought the phone new and unlocked from Republic Wireless and am trying to get it working with full features with Verizon Prepaid. A couple of folks on Reddit mentioned that I could flash the phone with Verizon software in order to get it to work as if I'd bought the G6 from Verizon.