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[Q] Republic Wireless Reality Check

I've researched a ton of threads and I think I have facts straight but would like confirmation from the community. Republic Wireless KitKat 4.4.2
I can:
1. Unlock bootloader with Sunshine.
2. Flash TWRP using mfastboot.
3. Root using TWRP
Continue using RW service
OR I can:
Perform steps 1&2 then
3. Flash the GE Rom
4. Edit to select and enable GSM
5. Install a T-Mo sim
Use T-Mo service (no LTE)
I'm a bit fuzzy still if I would need to carrier unlock somehow in the second scenario.
Has anyone successfully converted an RW phone to GSM? Am I on the right track? What have I over-simplified or overlooked?

It looks right.
Take a look at the first two posts in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-success-sim-unlock-sprint-xt1056-t2825155 for SIM/Carrier unlocking.

jherbold said:
I've researched a ton of threads and I think I have facts straight but would like confirmation from the community. Republic Wireless KitKat 4.4.2
I can:
1. Unlock bootloader with Sunshine.
2. Flash TWRP using mfastboot.
3. Root using TWRP
Continue using RW service
OR I can:
Perform steps 1&2 then
3. Flash the GE Rom
4. Edit to select and enable GSM
5. Install a T-Mo sim
Use T-Mo service (no LTE)
I'm a bit fuzzy still if I would need to carrier unlock somehow in the second scenario.
Has anyone successfully converted an RW phone to GSM? Am I on the right track? What have I over-simplified or overlooked?
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Yes.
I've been SIM unlocked for several months, courtesy of @samwathegreat as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-success-sim-unlock-sprint-xt1056-t2825155
I started with RW Moto X XT1049. Bootloader unlocked via "China Middleman", since Sunshine was not yet available. Flashed TWRP, rooted, installed Carbon ROM. Did SIM unlock as per above. At some point I flashed the full T-Mobile 4.4.4 stock ROM, including baseband., although this was not necessary. Was successfully using T-Mobile for 2-3 months, but I found coverage to be spotty, and in particular many areas where I got only EDGE (since no band IV), so I switched to Cricket, with much better results.

Thanks KidJoe and ejlmd for your responses. Good to know this phone is not forever tied to RW and Sprint, as some on their forums insist. I was especially glad for confirmation the GSM capability is present and useable. That does not seem to be widely known outside this forum.
I face the same issues with T-Mo coverage. I actually just used them as an example. If (or when) I switch it will probably be to an AT&T MVNO.

@ejlmd on what Android version you unlock the bootloader, 4.4.2?

zlebors said:
@ejlmd on what Android version you unlock the bootloader, 4.4.2?
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Yes. Now I am on 4.4.4, but bootloader unlocked via China middleman when I was on 4.4.2.

thanks @ejlmd for the information

Just found out that I got accepted to study abroad and want to take my RW Moto X with me rather than buying a new phone. Does Sunshine work with 4.4.4? Would 3G/LTE Data work? (The LTE is 800/1800/2600 Mhz and bands 20/3/7 while 3G is 900/2100 MHz bands 8/1)
Jherbold, did you ever get your plan to work?

Sunshine does NOT work on 4.4.4.
I believe the RW XT1049 is sim LOCKED also. If so, you can't use the SIM from another carrier in the phone.

KidJoe said:
Sunshine does NOT work on 4.4.4.
I believe the RW XT1049 is sim LOCKED also. If so, you can't use the SIM from another carrier in the phone.
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Yes, it is SIM locked. Some have successfully unlocked it and installed ROMs from other carriers that worked with non-RW SIMs. But not with 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54338871&postcount=2
Additionally, per a post I saw from someone @ RW, if you are using the RW ROM and app it is unlikely that the foreign SIM will be able to work even if you were SIM unlocked due to the way the SIP/VOIP implementation works; the SIM is only used to access the LTE data network.

glarepate said:
Yes, it is SIM locked. Some have successfully unlocked it and installed ROMs from other carriers that worked with non-RW SIMs. But not with 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54338871&postcount=2
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Yes, but if you read that thread, RW users must first flash the Sprint SBF, and that requires the phone to be bootloader unlocked.
Republic Wireless phones are bootloader LOCKED, Moto doesn't give out the unlock code for RW, the China Middleman has been gone for sometime, and Sunshine doesn't work on 4.4.4, so the bootloader can't be unlocked, hence I didn't suggest following that thread to SIM unlock when khabibul35 asked, (but I did in Post #2 of this thread when replying to the OP because there were options to unlock the bootloader back then).
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Additionally, per a post I saw from someone @ RW, if you are using the RW ROM and app it is unlikely that the foreign SIM will be able to work even if you were SIM unlocked due to the way the SIP/VOIP implementation works; the SIM is only used to access the LTE data network.
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Well, "someone @ RW" might be telling you how it works on THEIR network... They usually wont help you getting THEIR PHONES working on SOMEONE ELSE's service.
Example: Verizon, primarily uses CDMA/EVDO for Voice, SMS/MMS and 3G data, and SIM for LTE. Verizon's Support will admit that their phone is SIM unlocked, and can be used for Global GSM roaming, yet they will tell you it wont work on domestic (USA) carriers. But it does. Many users, including myself, have put non-Verizon GSM SIM in our XT1060, and they work just fine. (in my case I've put T-Mobile and ATT sims in).
Until you SIM unlock the Sprint XT1056, it wont work on non-Sprint GSM providers, hence the excitement in that thread. Many Non-Sprint customers are using XT1056's that have been SIM unlocked now, that Sprint says can't be used on another carriers SIM. If you read that thread, there are those with RW doing the same thing (if they were able to unlock their bootloader, and follow that process)

[Q] AT&T XT1058 can i flash it to a generic rom?

Hi, I got an AT&T XT1058 from ebay. I'm in teh UK so I'd really like to flash it with a stock UK ROM. I've had a look on here and with the huge amount of info I can't figure out if this is possible and which rom to use. it's 4.4.2 that's on the phone at teh moment which i believe can't be downgraded or unlocked easily, is that right?
any help would be greatly appreciated
cheers

To flash any Rom besides the Stock, Signed Moto ROM for your carrier and model X, you need to unlock the bootloader.
While Moto doesn't give out the Bootloader Unlock Code for the ATT USA XT1058, since you have 4.4.2 on it still, you should be able to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. (NOTE: please boot into fastboot/bootloader on the phone, and verify the version on the 2nd line is 30.B4 which is correct for 4.4.2).
Once you use sunshine, you can flash 3rd party recoveries, roms, etc.
While I have NOT done it, I've seen posts of ATT US Xt1058 owners flashing with Parts of the XT1053 rom to remove bloat, etc. (flashing the modems will likely change which wireless bands the phone can connect to). I do not advise flashing another carrier's rom. It could get messy, especially around UPDATE time. And I've seen some lose Cellular and WIFI flashing the wrong modem files.
One final thing. The ATT US XT1058 is SIM/Carrier locked too. So in order to use a non-ATT SIM in it you'll need to obtain a SIM unlock code. You should be able to get this from any web site selling unlock codes on the internet.

KidJoe said:
To flash any Rom besides the Stock, Signed Moto ROM for your carrier and model X, you need to unlock the bootloader.
While Moto doesn't give out the Bootloader Unlock Code for the ATT USA XT1058, since you have 4.4.2 on it still, you should be able to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. (NOTE: please boot into fastboot/bootloader on the phone, and verify the version on the 2nd line is 30.B4 which is correct for 4.4.2).
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hey, thanks for the very helpful response unfortunately i seem to have suffered from a bout of stupidity writing that and it's 4.4.4 that i've got on the phone! how does that affect things? also as an aside the sim is unlocked so i can use any sim so at least that's something...
thanks again

hardflipman said:
hey, thanks for the very helpful response unfortunately i seem to have suffered from a bout of stupidity writing that and it's 4.4.4 that i've got on the phone! how does that affect things? also as an aside the sim is unlocked so i can use any sim so at least that's something...
thanks again
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To unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 Moto X, there are only two possible ways..
The China Middleman thread (in the general section), although he only has codes for certain date range of phones (depends on the Assembly Date of your phone), BUT he has recently stopped responding again. There is no telling if/when it will start up again
Sunshine, which doesn't work with 4.4.4. However you can always try it since it wont charge you if it doesn't work. (i.e. it checks your phone, if it will work, if wont, it tells you and exits without charging you).
4.4.4 can't be temp rooted either.
So you are pretty much stuck stock ATT, and then just get it sim unlocked to use it with your carrier.

KidJoe said:
To unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 Moto X, there are only two possible ways..
The China Middleman thread (in the general section), although he only has codes for certain date range of phones (depends on the Assembly Date of your phone), BUT he has recently stopped responding again. There is no telling if/when it will start up again
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thanks for the reply. I guess i'll give the china middleman a try. I'd really like to get rid of the ATT address book, the fact that it perpetually shows as 4g connection and have the phone speak to me in a not american accent!
cheers

the same here
at&t xt1058 with stock android 4.4.4 (ota updated from 4.4.2)
system version 212.44.26.ghost_att.ATT.en.US
build no KXA21.12-L1.26
been using this phone in Europe, Greece with another carriers SIM card
everything ok, except for the LTE bands (in Greece I need bands 3,7,20) and the AT&T bloatware i wanna remove
would like to root, but i'm not able to unlock via motorola's website
let me know if u had any success via the china middleman, or if u find another way
thanks

hardflipman said:
thanks for the reply. I guess i'll give the china middleman a try.
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cxp7 said:
let me know if u had any success via the china middleman, or if u find another way
thanks
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As I said.. the China Middleman has stopped responding again.

KidJoe said:
As I said.. the China Middleman has stopped responding again.
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I'm on Rogers xt1058 (16GB)
Is there any way (assuming I can unlock the BL) to get developer edition ROM?

MadPriest said:
I'm on Rogers xt1058 (16GB)
Is there any way (assuming I can unlock the BL) to get developer edition ROM?
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For the Rogers XT1058, Moto does offer the Bootloader Unlock code for free from their web site -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth it will void your warranty
The GSM Dev Edtion is the XT1053. It has different radio/modem files, its hardware supports different bands (less LTE bands). I never recommend flashing another model's ROM as we have seen loss of cellular in some cases, where even flashing the original firmware back didn't fix.
Once you unlock your bootloader and root, you can remove and freeze any bloat on the phone (freezing is preferred because the next OTA might require it to be there).

KidJoe said:
Once you unlock your bootloader and root, you can remove and freeze any bloat on the phone (freezing is preferred because the next OTA might require it to be there).
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Thank you for the reply
I'm on 4.4.4, I understand there's no root for me

MadPriest said:
Thank you for the reply
I'm on 4.4.4, I understand there's no root for me
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Only if you can't unlock your boot loader. But as I said, moto does give out the unlock codes on their web site for the Rogers xt1058
Also, without unlocking the boot loader, you can only flash the rom for your phone model and its carrier branding.

I see
Thank you for the answers
I knew the second part, was not sure about the first one.
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Free mobile app

[Q] Moto X AT&T stock version, does it come with a lock?

Hi guys,
total n00b question.
A friend of mine brought an AT&T Moto X (1st generation) phone with him for me from the U.S. to Germany.
He bought it from the motorola.com page directly 2 years ago through the Thanksgiving promo, never got it activated and its still stock and everything, never used before.
He paid the full retail price of 400$ at the time, does it however still come with a sim/netlock?
I thought since it didn't come with a contract (where you pay only a few $ and you are bound to a 1y/2y contract) and he paid the full 400$ for it, it doesn't have any sim/net lock?
Sadly I don't have a nano sim card to try it out, before I order one from my carrier I was hoping someone could help me out with this
I know that simlock threads are not allowed, I'm not asking for an unlock, just whether a retail 400$ phone has that lock or not?
Thanks in advance!

If it's stock and on 4.4.2 or below, invest in Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. I'm not sure if AT&T sim-locked their Moto Xs. They should provide the code for free, if necessary, though since the phone was paid in full.

Thanks for the quick reply, already looked into SuneShine for unlocking the BL (its a shame that I didn't pick the T-Mobile version over the AT&T, hmm)
But worth spending another 25$ for it!
Now I'm still curious about the sim/netlock.
From what I found out by googling and reading for hours, if it has a simlock, AT&T will not unlock it cause I've never been a customer and it never was hooked up to an AT&T account, kinda bad if you ask me for a full price cell phone... The T-Mobile version comes 100% sim and BL unlocked...
Moto chat support cant help, they didn't even know that there are different versions of the Moto X 1st Gen...

It's usually less than 20 dollars to unlock them on a website that offers Sim unlocking. Not sure if at&t devices are usually OK to do so, but I would think they are. The carriers usually charge more even... In Canada anyway. ?

OK, thanks a lot!
I'm really just surprised that if you pay the full retail price for a phone it can still be sim/netlocked...
Hope you guys don't mind asking me another few questions, I'm just transiting over from my Razr I so a few things are different
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
I'm just trying to get as many answers before I try it and find out the "hard" way it won't work and that it results in a completely bricked device in the end...
AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!

Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
Sent from my XT1097 using XDA Free mobile app

mmaslo1124 said:
Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
Sent from my XT1097 using XDA Free mobile app
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Wrong section, This is the 2013 section. And this thread has nothing to do with your question, that's called thread hijacking.
So you should go to the Moto X 2014 section, and if you don't see a thread on the same sort of topic.... Then post your own thread in the Q&A section. ?

So I read an insane number of pages and somewhere I found this great page:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
Long story short, I reveived a nano sim card today, AT&T Moto X is locked, contacted AT&T via the above mentioned website, it took 2 days and today I received my sim unlock code via email from AT&T for free, no account with them needed and it works!

dagoban said:
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
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With the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 being locked, you'll only be able to flash Moto Signed Roms for your phone's CID or carrier branding. You will not be able to flash the XT1052 EU rom, or other X roms. Only the ATT XT1058.
If you are lucky and your ATT XT1058 has not yet been upgraded to Android 4.4.4 and bootoader 30.B7, you should be able to use JCase's Sunshine tool to unlock the bootloader. Note: Because this is a HACK, do NOT try to re-lock the bootloader after using it, or you will be permanently bootloader locked.
dagoban said:
And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
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I don't believe flashing a different ROM would give you SIM unlock.
You're only option is getting it from the Carrier if you meet their terms/conditions. Or buying a SIM unlock code from an online seller.
dagoban said:
AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!
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I've read different things. So I can't say for sure which is correct.
I know that the Verizon X, XT1060, initially game supporting only LTE Band 13. Band 4 was later enabled by firmware update.
But I've also seen posts of some losing their entire cellular radio when flashing other model's full roms, and not getting it back by flashing the correct rom. (I don't recall the full details, sorry!).
On other phones, I've seen things like "edits" to turn on other bands. But no so for the 2013 X.
So I wouldn't mess with it.

Thanks for the explanations @KidJoe
Until know I didn't know that a signed Moto firmware is not just bound to the model but also to a CID, always thought you could flash any region firmware over the phone as long as its the same model.
Sunshine is def. an option, I didn't take the OTA (even thou it reminds me at least once a day cause I suspected already there would be more exploits available with a lower android OS.
SIM unlock is no problem anymore, AT&T provided me the unlock key via website request (took me a while to find that link, thou) and you don't need to have an account with them and the phone does NOT need to be hooked to an AT&T contract.
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!

dagoban said:
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
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You could try using mFastboot and flash only System.img... BUT!!!! Its going to cause issues with OTA updates, and having mismatched parts always increases the risks for bricking and/or things just not working correctly!! So I usually don't recommend mixing things up.
dagoban said:
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!
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I've not messed with adding additional languages. Nor have I used CM as I like my Moto features too much, and stock (rooted) runs just fine here.

Flashing XT1053 on XT1060

Hi guys,
I have a MotoX 2013 XT1060 Verizon Developer Edition. I'm planning to flash a XT1053 4.4.4 Retail T-mobile image with RSD Lite.
Is this going to work? Is this a dumb thing to do?
Thanks

Well, if you flash the T-Mobile radios, you'll likely lose CDMA support and LTE band 12 support.
Not to mention the differences in teh build.prop that also might cause issues since they wont have the parts needed for Verizon's CDMA support.

KidJoe said:
Well, if you flash the T-Mobile radios, you'll likely lose CDMA support and LTE band 12 support.
Not to mention the differences in teh build.prop that also might cause issues since they wont have the parts needed for Verizon's CDMA support.
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You sure ? I think if you flash full fw from different variant, You'll bricked. I ve never tried this before

md07 said:
You sure ? I think if you flash full fw from different variant, You'll bricked. I ve never tried this before
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Yes, there is a chance you will brick when flashing the full SBF from another variant. We have seen other variants, like XT1052, be successful.
If I recall correctly, back in the day, there were some who did flash XT1060's will all but the modem files from an XT1053 (due to leaked update files, EARLY on in the X's life cycle) but I can't remember the details. I just know it didn't brick.
Either way, I think saying as I did, that flashing a Verizon phone with a firmware for another variant resulting in the inability to use it on Verizon's network, would be reason enough not to do it.
Then again, What I didn't think about was someone who wanted to use that XT1060 on a GSM carrier's network, and wanted to flash the XT1053 rom because its "bloat free".... So yeah, a warning in there that it could brick would be warranted...
Also, I have some statements in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202 like 9, 10 and 12... advising against "cross flashing" like this.

Solved it
Nevermind guys,
I flashed a XT1053 TMO Retail image with RSD Lite. My XT1060 is now XT1053, I got rid of all bloatware and all carrier logos. Everything is just perfect.
Also, I wanted to do this because I live in Europe and Verizon is nothing here. I also wanted to do this because I get updates sonner.

I have the opposite question...
I have a rooted XT1053 on Lycamobile/T-Mobile. I'd like to switch to Verizon for my service.
Do I read this correctly that I could flash an XT1060 ROM over my XT1053 and have an XT1060. Is the hardware the same?
Thanks,
Mark

KidJoe said:
Yes, there is a chance you will brick when flashing the full SBF from another variant. We have seen other variants, like XT1052, be successful.
If I recall correctly, back in the day, there were some who did flash XT1060's will all but the modem files from an XT1053 (due to leaked update files, EARLY on in the X's life cycle) but I can't remember the details. I just know it didn't brick.
Either way, I think saying as I did, that flashing a Verizon phone with a firmware for another variant resulting in the inability to use it on Verizon's network, would be reason enough not to do it.
Then again, What I didn't think about was someone who wanted to use that XT1060 on a GSM carrier's network, and wanted to flash the XT1053 rom because its "bloat free".... So yeah, a warning in there that it could brick would be warranted...
Also, I have some statements in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202 like 9, 10 and 12... advising against "cross flashing" like this.
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so, can you guide me How to flash XT1053 firmware for my XT1056 (Moto X Sprint). I dont use CDMA network, after flash success, my phone is convered to XT1053, and only use GSM network?

md07 said:
so, can you guide me How to flash XT1053 firmware for my XT1056 (Moto X Sprint). I dont use CDMA network, after flash success, my phone is convered to XT1053, and only use GSM network?
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Sorry I will not, because there are risks of bricking when cross flashing like that. And I don't want to be responsible if something goes wrong.

XT1093 Question

ok so cleaning my house the other day i came across a old phone of mine the Moto X XT1093 Variant (US Cellular) so as i suspected i had unlocked the BL in the past and installed TWRP and i had the stock 5.1 rom and it was rooted, i guess at some point i also installed Xposed Framework...anyways...according to the US Cellular website, this phone is already sim unlocked...so i was thinking , ok cool i can pop a sim from some random prepaid CDMA carrier and it should work...well i flashed dirty unicorns 6.0 xt1095 rom on it and its stable, the US Cellular sim is still in there and its getting a data signal, obviosuly account is off, but then i started reading and i got worried...is it even possible to flash another rom on this phone and it work? like i mean this is a CDMA phone, but i read that all XT1095 is GSM, so is there some rom i can flash that will support some sorta CDMA prepaid? any help or advice here would be appreciated....

https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...m-xt1096-verizon-flashable-stock-rom-t3327345
I use it with the At&t prepaid sim. I'll look and see if I have some of the files I used to lock on the cdma networks...
DeimosPhobos said:
ok so cleaning my house the other day i came across a old phone of mine the Moto X XT1093 Variant (US Cellular) so as i suspected i had unlocked the BL in the past and installed TWRP and i had the stock 5.1 rom and it was rooted, i guess at some point i also installed Xposed Framework...anyways...according to the US Cellular website, this phone is already sim unlocked...so i was thinking , ok cool i can pop a sim from some random prepaid CDMA carrier and it should work...well i flashed dirty unicorns 6.0 xt1095 rom on it and its stable, the US Cellular sim is still in there and its getting a data signal, obviosuly account is off, but then i started reading and i got worried...is it even possible to flash another rom on this phone and it work? like i mean this is a CDMA phone, but i read that all XT1095 is GSM, so is there some rom i can flash that will support some sorta CDMA prepaid? any help or advice here would be appreciated....
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