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iBorow what i can :))) samsung quadcore hits the new iphone

http://www.gsmarena.com/new_iphone_to_supposedly_feature_quadcore_exynos_4-news-4482.php
in ur face iphone fanatics???))

iphones have had samsung chips for a long while.
...iphones components are made by all hte Android manuf.

I'm just most excited about the Qualcomm APQ8064A chipset, "which will integrate an LTE radio and the Adreno 320 GPU all into a 28nm process"

is it worth to sell of my moto x style /(pure) and get this?

i am using moto x style with stock android 7.0 (unlocked) since 2 years... great phone no regrets but only features missing are finger print scanner and pro mode(which is main feature)
is it worth enough to buy moto x 4?? is snapdragon 630 better then snapdragon 821?? does the dual camera has the pro mode in it?
i know alexa is **** but i don't use google assistant also anyways..
will it get oreo update and other future updates? (android N??)
is it dual sim?(for asian/indian variant)?
Main question (does it have VOLTE support/band 40) for Rjio??

Well, I have the Moto X Play, and I have preordered my new X4... Can't wait! Yes, the camera has the pro mode, the 630 is a great chipset, although quite similar to the 821 - the only major difference being the extra cores in the 630 making it 1.5x faster. The big things for me to look forward to in the upgrade is the better camera, the waterproofing, the new Bluetooth technology and the fingerprint scanner. Plus I get rid of the cracked screen on my poor X Play :crying:
And yes, it likely will get Oreo, and because Moto devices are pretty much stock, it will probably get it quicker than most other manufacturers. Regarding the dual-sim - it probably will be in Asia, GSM Arena has both dual and single sim variants listed, but they don't say which LTE bands are supported.

Duck86 said:
Well, I have the Moto X Play, and I have preordered my new X4... Can't wait! Yes, the camera has the pro mode, the 630 is a great chipset, although quite similar to the 821 - the only major difference being the extra cores in the 630 making it 1.5x faster. The big things for me to look forward to in the upgrade is the better camera, the waterproofing, the new Bluetooth technology and the fingerprint scanner. Plus I get rid of the cracked screen on my poor X Play :crying:
And yes, it likely will get Oreo, and because Moto devices are pretty much stock, it will probably get it quicker than most other manufacturers. Regarding the dual-sim - it probably will be in Asia, GSM Arena has both dual and single sim variants listed, but they don't say which LTE bands are supported.
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thankyou for information
yes it's getting oreo+it'll be now getting updates by google (android 1)
it do support all band's as i saw the snapdragon 630 chip-set band's it does has band 40 so no worries
by the way for how much did you pre order it?? i'd like to know by when is it going to be with you?

Sagar the Moto spec. page has the 4X phone bands listed as below, I don't see band 40 but who knows it could come later:
Network bands (by model)
4G LTE (Cat11 DL, Cat5 UL)
CDMA / EVDO Rev A
UMTS / HSPA+
GSM / EDGE
2G: GSM band 2/3/5/8 CDMA BC 0/1/10
3G: WCDMA band 1/2/4/5/8
4G: FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/66
TDD LTE band 38/41

Sagar_1401 said:
i am using moto x style with stock android 7.0 (unlocked) since 2 years... great phone no regrets but only features missing are finger print scanner and pro mode(which is main feature)
is it worth enough to buy moto x 4?? is snapdragon 630 better then snapdragon 821?? does the dual camera has the pro mode in it?
i know alexa is **** but i don't use google assistant also anyways..
will it get oreo update and other future updates? (android N??)
is it dual sim?(for asian/indian variant)?
Main question (does it have VOLTE support/band 40) for Rjio??
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Snapdragon 821 is the chipset in the Google Pixel. Probably about 3x more powerful than the 630.
I assume the 630 is going to perform similarly to your Moto X Style's Snapdragon 808, due to the fact it is running at full HD instead of the Style's QHD resolution.

quakeaz said:
Snapdragon 821 is the chipset in the Google Pixel. Probably about 3x more powerful than the 630.
I assume the 630 is going to perform similarly to your Moto X Style's Snapdragon 808, due to the fact it is running at full HD instead of the Style's QHD resolution.
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Are there any resources comparing IPC in these chipsets and in chipset lines (8xx/6xx)? I had assumed they'd be on similar architecture, and the clock difference between 630 and 808 would make the 630 faster per core.
Edit: so I spent some time searching for this, and my assumption was wrong. The A57 cores are significantly more powerful than the A53 at almost everything, to the order of 3-5x in some cases. https://www.anandtech.com/show/8718/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-exynos-review/3
In effect, the 5X's Snapdragon 808 being 2xA57+4xA53 is in fact likely more powerful than the 4xA53+4xA53 configuration of the Snapdragon 630. It's too bad they didn't go with Snapdragon 660 for the X4.

birckston said:
Are there any resources comparing IPC in these chipsets and in chipset lines (8xx/6xx)? I had assumed they'd be on similar architecture, and the clock difference between 630 and 808 would make the 630 faster per core.
Edit: so I spent some time searching for this, and my assumption was wrong. The A57 cores are significantly more powerful than the A53 at almost everything, to the order of 3-5x in some cases. https://www.anandtech.com/show/8718/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-exynos-review/3
In effect, the 5X's Snapdragon 808 being 2xA57+4xA53 is in fact likely more powerful than the 4xA53+4xA53 configuration of the Snapdragon 630. It's too bad they didn't go with Snapdragon 660 for the X4.
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I didn't read through most of that article, but it is 2 years old and also I couldn't find any straight comparison between the cores in there while skimming. But I think only comparing the actual multi-core chips running makes sense, particularly since they have different quantities of cores and a mixed bag in one case. Plus apparently at different clock speeds.
I did find this, which gives a 20% edge to the 630 in "Total Clock Speed". No indication how that is measured. Also it can handle higher speed RAM, but of course would have to actually be paired with higher speed RAM. The 630 is also 14nm vs 20 nm for the 808, so the 630 should use less power. Except it runs more cores at a higher clock speed, so who knows what the net is.
https://versus.com/en/qualcomm-snapdragon-630-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-808-msm8992
The 630 can run "Up to 2.2 GHz"
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/qualcomm-snapdragon-630-mobile-platform
The 808 can run "Up to 2.0 GHz"
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/808
GSMArena has the Moto X4 running the 630 "Octa-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A53" and the Nexus 5X running the 808 "Hexa-core (4x1.4 GHz Cortex-A53 & 2x1.8 GHz Cortex-A57)." Seems like all 8 running at 2.2 GHz should be faster versus 4 at 1.4GHz plus 2 at 1.8 GHz, even if the big cores are better performers. Edit: Other sites, including the LG site have the 5X at 1.8 GHz. But that could also be a marketing thing of using the max clock speed in the specs. Either way, it is quite a different speed than 2.2 GHz.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x4-8634.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5x-7556.php

Age old debate... all other things equal, an 808 will still kill a 630 on a per-core operation level.
For example, if you are a gamer, an 808 platform will perform better. If you are not, the 625 will probably be better at day-to-day tasks, and have better battery life.
It all comes down to individual usage. I do some multitrack audio recording on a Nexus 6p, and it performs well. I am not expecting my X4 to do the same

Is it confirmed that the Fi version of X4 has Bluetooth 5.0, Google's page mentions 4.2, but Moto's page mentions it having Bluetooth 5.0.

saketkutta said:
Is it confirmed that the Fi version of X4 has Bluetooth 5.0, Google's page mentions 4.2, but Moto's page mentions it having Bluetooth 5.0.
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If I had to take a guess, the Moto page is probably the correct one. My understanding is that both phones will have the exact same specs, just different software.
If I also had to take a guess, the X4 will probably be locked down on the standard Motorola version. I am hoping it will have an unlockable option for the Project Fi version.

But the Adreno 508 is about as powerful a GPU as the Adreno 418, plus with the Full HD display and 14nm node process, the X4 would beat the X Pure quite easily in gaming. On a per-core basis, the A57's of the X Pure are handily superior to the A53's of the X4, but collectively, the X4's SD630>X Pure's 808. Two 4-core clusters of A53s, 2.2GHz and 1.8GHz respectively on a 14nm process, do perform better than a Dual and Quad-core combination of 1.8GHz A57s and 1.44GHz A53s.
Just to clarify, the Fi X4 is Bluetooth 5.0 compatible but Bluetooth 5.0 will be enabled on it with the Oreo update.

SD630 Benchmark.
Total: 70,013
3D: 18,136
UX: 25,614
CPU: 21,248
SD808 Benchmark.
Total: 67,286
3D: 21,245
UX: 24,774
CPU: 16,460
These numbers say what we pretty much already knew: The SD630 with its more cores is better in multithreaded benchmarks, and will probably be a very smooth phone to use. However, without the A57 cores and with the slower GPU, it won't be quite as fast for gaming. It should get better battery life, however, since it's based on 14nm, and those A57 cores are a HOG on power.
Note: I choose to use the 7.1.2 numbers for the Nexus 5x (SD808) because that's what the X4 is running. It will get Oreo "before the end of the year" however.

so is exynos vulnerable to meltdown or spectre?

I haven't seen anything specific about the exynos chipset yet?

yep NSA already have a copy of your porn collection

A handful of cortex cores are affected so any exynos chip using one of those cores will be affected. Arm has a list of affected cores.
https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update

Are Samsung's later Exynos CPU's using fully custom cores? Or are they modified versions of existing ARM architectures?
The Snapdragon 820 and 835 CPU's use customised variants of the A72 and A73 cores, though Qualcomm use their own name.

Knowbody42 said:
Are Samsung's later Exynos CPU's using fully custom cores? Or are they modified versions of existing ARM architectures?
The Snapdragon 820 and 835 CPU's use customised variants of the A72 and A73 cores, though Qualcomm use their own name.
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Pretty sure they're their own cores.. with that LITTLE big design... I assume that design is still in use
Edit: Nope I was wrong:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos#List_of_ARMv8_Exynos_SoCs
> Exynos 9 Octa 8895
> Cortex-A53 (GTS)
So It looks like its immune to these issues:
https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update

So far from recent reports all current CPUs are affected by the hack.

iceepyon said:
So far from recent reports all current CPUs are affected by the hack.
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TBH it is a VERY large number of current and recent and not so recent CPU's are affected.
Close enough to all of them that finding one that are NOT affected is a rare thing.

What about performance after installing January 2018 security patch on Samsung devices ?
We will se any performance issues ?

Contacted samsung asking about whether 8895 is affected by spectre bug. In an email reply, they didnt specifically mention if its affected, but said that the december security patch is to solve it.
In another word, 8895 is affected.

According to this:
https://security.samsungmobile.com/securityUpdate.smsb
Spectre and Meltdown is fixed in January 2018 patch.
Similiar case was with Krack and Blueborne. For example they fixed it in Security level month 2, but I got this fixed with Security level month 1 update. So Spectre and Meltdown could be fixed too in december security patch.

Is Snapdragon vulnerable?
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Limeybastard said:
Is Snapdragon vulnerable?
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The snapdragon used in the note 8 is vulnerable to spectre. Its the same chip used in the LG v30
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....snapdragon-835-meltdown-spectre-t3732140/amp/

Exynos or Snapdragon? My thoughts..

I am in Europe and I am ready to buy the phone. My dilemma is between the two variants. I read all threads in forum and i believe that probably i am going with Snapdragon because:
1) better battery life
2) better gpu performance
3) better data speeds
4) phone runs cooler than Exynos
5) kcal color control support
6) fm radio
7) slightly cheaper
My only concern is the lack of roms, kernels vs Exynos vesrion.
Your thoughts?

You would actually get better Battery Life with the Exynos variant of the Note 9 than the SnapDragon variant. As Samsung's Exynos SOC is far more energy efficient than Qualcomm's SnapDragon SOC. I can confirm that the SnapDragon SOC runs far hotter than the Exynos too. and that is before the infamous SnapDragon 810 fiasco. The Adreno GPU used in the Snapdragon is slightly better than the Mali GPU used in the Exynos. But in terms of gaming both of them are excellent.

Where's your evidence for that? Many users have been complaining about Exynos battery life and that the Snapdragon is way better. The Exynos S9 wasn't as efficient as Snapdragon due to some hotplugging issue and there's no evidence this was fixed in Note 9. The Exynos Note 9 performs better than S9+ probably due to better thermals and less throttling.

I have an Exynos. It's always cool. It has amazing battery life (1d(6.5-8hSOT)). It h
I have an Exynos.
It's always cool even when charging. It has amazing battery life. (1d 6.5-8hSOT)
And I also think that Exynos has better camera processing. That was a case on Note 8 at least.

dinohodzic7 said:
I have an Exynos.
It's always cool even when charging. It has amazing battery life. (1d 6.5-8hSOT)
And I also think that Exynos has better camera processing. That was a case on Note 8 at least.
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I agree with the camera comment.
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tsoureki said:
I am in Europe and I am ready to buy the phone. My dilemma is between the two variants. I read all threads in forum and i believe that probably i am going with Snapdragon because:
1) better battery life
2) better gpu performance
3) better data speeds
4) phone runs cooler than Exynos
5) kcal color control support
6) fm radio
7) slightly cheaper
My only concern is the lack of roms, kernels vs Exynos vesrion.
Your thoughts?
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get the snapdragon variant
for the last two generations the snapdragon variant is better and more advanced
835 and 845 are better than the Exynos counterparts
also there is a huge GPU difference Adreno wipes the floor with mali look at pubg fps with settings for example

FYL21 said:
Where's your evidence for that? Many users have been complaining about Exynos battery life and that the Snapdragon is way better. The Exynos S9 wasn't as efficient as Snapdragon due to some hotplugging issue and there's no evidence this was fixed in Note 9. The Exynos Note 9 performs better than S9+ probably due to better thermals and less throttling.
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I am currently using the Exynos variant of the Note 8 and I can say with 100% certainty that it is much more energy efficient than the Snapdragon variant. I also have friends who have both the Exynos and Snapdragon variants of the Note 9. They confirm with me that the Snapdragon variant is more power hungry than the Exynos variant.

Exynos also gives you better sound quality in headphones if you care for that. Exynos has Cirrus Logic DAC and the Snapdragon version has Qualcomms built in DAC. I sold my LG G7 as I think the Samsung sounds better.

tsoureki said:
I am in Europe and I am ready to buy the phone. My dilemma is between the two variants. I read all threads in forum and i believe that probably i am going with Snapdragon because:
1) better battery life
2) better gpu performance
3) better data speeds
4) phone runs cooler than Exynos
5) kcal color control support
6) fm radio
7) slightly cheaper
My only concern is the lack of roms, kernels vs Exynos vesrion.
Your thoughts?
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The sd845 version - it got better battery life, faster real world CPU performance(the exynos frequency scaling/hotpluging/control is handicapping it hard. Samsung have a good big core and poor knowledge how to use it + it's power hungry), less frame drops in the UI, 25-35% (depending on the workload) faster GPU. The exynos got better DAC and... that's all, it's just bad this year.
Not like the phone is bad, I have exynos note 9, got it on good price via carrier and no SD variant. Still, that doesn't mean that the sd845 variant is not vastly superior as it is. Search the xda forums as it was discussed here and few people got both variants - all of them kept the sd845 and returned the exynos stating they didn't expect the difference to be that big even if they come in it prepared there will be some.
As for the ROMs - superior hardware is always better than "hacking" for better performance. You have "samsung good lock" if you wan't to modify the interface and the functions of the phone. Also look at the dev subforums, not like it's filled up with a lot of ROMs/kernels and most likely never will. For sure it's not worth it to get the inferior variant just to have access to few ROMs/kernels that will never match the raw speed of the sd845 variant.

Isn't it really more about LTE bands? I'd think in Europe, the Exynos would be the obvious choice.

This might offer some insight in battery life (S9+ but almost the same thing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgz0YIEKFTc
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Worth noting that they didn't test CPU/GPU intensive apps apart from the camera.
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There is a good chance that I'll be grabbing a SD Note 9 to run alongside my Exynos S9+. If I do, I'll do a ton of testing.
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Last post, I promise. In my experience, I have a slight preference for Exynos due to root availability. Having said that; I've found that Exynos pumps out better CPU's and Snapdragon has better GPU's. Antutu, 3dMark, and Geekbench usually back this up. Not to mention the fact that My SD Note 3 would run emulators smoother than my EX Note 4.

robroy90 said:
Isn't it really more about LTE bands? I'd think in Europe, the Exynos would be the obvious choice.
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I just found out that both the N960F/FD and N9600 are GSM devices and are compatible with all European Cell Providers.

Exyons vs Snapdragon

Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
Thank you in advance

Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better

keaheng said:
Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better
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Actually Exynos devices are sold in the EU, Austrailia and parts of the middle East. The US and East Asia use Snapdragon devices.

keaheng said:
Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better
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Common really Lesson learnt ? Exynos is awesome! There are to many factors just to blame Exynos, his network could suck ? Or the game (Pub G) has a bug that's causing the lag! Or in game settings aren’t optimized ? You cant balme the cpu for in game lag! Exynos Rock they are awesome chipset!

N1NJATH3ORY said:
Common really Lesson learnt ? Exynos is awesome! There are to many factors just to blame Exynos, his network could suck ? Or the game (Pub G) has a bug that's causing the lag! Or in game settings aren’t optimized ? You cant balme the cpu for in game lag! Exynos Rock they are awesome chipset!
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oh? https://youtu.be/3l-7uFhSKGw

Ahmed Elkhyate said:
Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
Thank you in advance
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The snapdragon version is better in every possible way - GPU (on average 30% faster), the CPU (in every real world scenario or bench, except geekbench), better battery life. That said, the exynos 9810 is perfectly capable to run PUBG maxed out smoothly. I tested it in android oreo on my exynos note 9. It's possible that the game has some issues with the pie update, as the new GPU driver is actually giving around 10% more performance in every scenario.

I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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robinnl192 said:
I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.

Ahmed Elkhyate said:
Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
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You have to wait next pie updates. Exynos is the best chipset on device market but always has been limited due to battery and device safety.

N1NJATH3ORY said:
i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.
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You're trying too hard my friend. In the end all that matters is real life performance... and since the Galaxy S8, the Exynos has been biting the dust. (The Exynos S7 was actually faster than the Snapdragon S7 in real-life screnarios though, except in 3D performance).
I'm not saying the Exynos is a mediocre SoC, but clearly Samsung failed to deliver for some time now. Today, in 2019, the Snapdragon variant of the S9/N9 is without a doubt the one to get if your cell. network is supported. The Snapdragon 845 is also more efficient and less power-hungry.

robinnl192 said:
I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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This was valid in the past, the latest snapdragons DAC is really a step up, especially the one in the snapdragon 845. I still would put on top the exynos 9810 DAC tho, but by not that much compared to the past SOCs.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.
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True and wrong. It's true that the M3 cores has a lot of brute power and also it's true that there is a lot of room for improvements regarding 9810 control... sadly as you said it was rushed, half baked, android 9 improves it a bit but still it's like 1/4 of the max potential and as we know - new phones are coming with new SOC's and this will be leaved as it is, sadly. Wrong in the meaning that the exynos 9810 can't beat snapdragon 945, because if you unleash it the power consumption would be insane and it will lead to a lot of heat, throttling (thermal), poor sustain from those two and really bad screen on time. And this is only the CPU, the GPU is no contest at all - the adreno is around 30% faster (depending on the workload)... atleast we got around 10% higher scores with the newer driver in the android 9 tho. Also wrong in the meaning that the only CPU bench that puts exynos on top is the geekbench, every other CPU test or bench is giving the first place to the sd845, including the more close to real world tests like pcmark. I have the exynos note 9 btw.

high_voltage said:
This was valid in the past, the latest snapdragons DAC is really a step up, especially the one in the snapdragon 845. I still would put on top the exynos 9810 DAC tho, but by not that much compared to the past SOCs.
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Allright! Didn't know they came back more. Good to know.
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SD:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874435&postcount=31
my OC Exy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874576&postcount=32
and attached is with NON OC kernel
the line is thinner and thinner....

bober10113 said:
SD:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874435&postcount=31
my OC Exy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874576&postcount=32
and attached is with NON OC kernel
the line is thinner and thinner....
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Aha, but a few problems:
1) this is not the stock ROM/kernel and some of us prefer to not unlock as it voids the warranty + you literally will need to flash updates every single month as this phone is heavily supported
2) your battery life will be a lot worse vs the snapdragon 845
3) you GPU is still 30% slower and some of us DO game on that phone
4) this is benchmarks after all, real world can be different and you will most likely have a few frame drops while the sd does not
It's not that simple as to flash a custom kernel, but it's a good reference point that samsung have a lot of room to improve the SOC control, but they will not do it, mostly because the galaxy s10 is here and every single competent engineer will work on it + future devices.

I don't understand how these differences can be clearly representing in real world use, everyday use, to the average and enthusiast consumer. I'm actually thinking about buying an Exynos Note 9 for one reason: ROOT.
I'm sure I'll be just as happy with the performance of the Exynos chip just as I am on this Snapdragon. I don't really game that much, anyway. Not stuff like shooters at least.

roaduardo said:
I don't understand how these differences can be clearly representing in real world use, everyday use, to the average and enthusiast consumer. I'm actually thinking about buying an Exynos Note 9 for one reason: ROOT.
I'm sure I'll be just as happy with the performance of the Exynos chip just as I am on this Snapdragon. I don't really game that much, anyway. Not stuff like shooters at least.
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Well, there are a few forum fellow members that got the both variants. All of them said the same - that they came prepared for a difference in favour of the snapdragon, but was surprised how big it is and all of them returned the exynos keeping the snapdragon variant. This should sum it up from "real world" perspective. The exynos is not super bad or anything, the snapdragon version is just THAT much better.
Also if you want more scientific approach - anandtech Andrei's note 9 sd vs note 9 exynos direct comparison. For the numbers, but the real world is coming from our forum. I am sure if you search long enough that you will find atleast some of those comparison and opinions.

high_voltage said:
Aha, but a few problems:
1) this is not the stock ROM/kernel and some of us prefer to not unlock as it voids the warranty + you literally will need to flash updates every single month as this phone is heavily supported
2) your battery life will be a lot worse vs the snapdragon 845
3) you GPU is still 30% slower and some of us DO game on that phone
4) this is benchmarks after all, real world can be different and you will most likely have a few frame drops while the sd does not
It's not that simple as to flash a custom kernel, but it's a good reference point that samsung have a lot of room to improve the SOC control, but they will not do it, mostly because the galaxy s10 is here and every single competent engineer will work on it + future devices.
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in my heart of hearts, I'll take any advantage I can to tip the scales on my side. why? because I can.
nothing ventured nothing gained.
and again benchmark numbers VS benchmark numbers,
the line really is thinner. no longer is it 30% on GPU and what ever it was on CPU

Luv my EXynos Note 9! ftw

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Well, there are a few forum fellow members that got the both variants. All of them said the same - that they came prepared for a difference in favour of the snapdragon, but was surprised how big it is and all of them returned the exynos keeping the snapdragon variant. This should sum it up from "real world" perspective. The exynos is not super bad or anything, the snapdragon version is just THAT much better.
Also if you want more scientific approach - anandtech Andrei's note 9 sd vs note 9 exynos direct comparison. For the numbers, but the real world is coming from our forum. I am sure if you search long enough that you will find atleast some of those comparison and opinions.
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Hmmm. But root, though. It's a compelling reason to get an Exynos. I'm not sure how much longer it may be for something awesome to happen on the Snapdragon side of things when it comes to root but it'll probably be many moons from now. Exynos is here already able to root and I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on buying one.

roaduardo said:
Hmmm. But root, though. It's a compelling reason to get an Exynos. I'm not sure how much longer it may be for something awesome to happen on the Snapdragon side of things when it comes to root but it'll probably be many moons from now. Exynos is here already able to root and I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on buying one.
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well the 9600 would be the best of both worlds. just not much development. but then again note 9 exynos developemnt is not much anyways. There seems to be a bigger community around on telegram with roms that have more mods than what we currently have on xda...
but I feel content with my n960n.