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S5 variants...5422 vs s801

So i am looking at the availability Of the s5 and ebay has both s5 Versions with snapdragon s801 and exynos 5422 available. Unfortunately it is hsdpa only and no lte. Both capable Of 4k recording, exysnos is in hmp Mode with 8 max processors.
801 - 699$
5422 - 749$
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7811/samsungs-exynos-5422-the-ideal-biglittle-exynos-5-hexa-5260
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/02/08/galaxy-s5-variants-get-benchmarked-on-antutu-sm-g900h-and-sm-g900r4/
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5422 in S5 is still unconfirmed, so HMP big.LITTLE is unconfirmed also.

Hmm.. isn't it already launch in india?
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hung2900 said:
5422 in S5 is still unconfirmed, so HMP big.LITTLE is unconfirmed also.
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hung2900, see this
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/02/08/galaxy-s5-variants-get-benchmarked-on-antutu-sm-g900h-and-sm-g900r4/
and this
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7811/samsungs-exynos-5422-the-ideal-biglittle-exynos-5-hexa-5260

copualt3 said:
hung2900, see this
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/02/08/galaxy-s5-variants-get-benchmarked-on-antutu-sm-g900h-and-sm-g900r4/
and this
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7811/samsungs-exynos-5422-the-ideal-biglittle-exynos-5-hexa-5260
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this

hung2900 said:
5422 in S5 is still unconfirmed, so HMP big.LITTLE is unconfirmed also.
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Yes guys.. Sammy announced it in India and they have exynos 5 with hmp enabled! so this is sure and confirmed!

So is the leaked SM-G906S QHD version real? it was apparently spotted on the GFXbench chart with a 2k Res screen and snapdragon 805..Wonder if this is real
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/samsun...dragon-805-turns-up-in-benchmarks-03-04-2014/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/GFXB...iant-with-1440x2560-screen-resolution_id54712

no snapdragon in next generation Galaxy phones?

Does this mean no Snapdragon in Note 5?
http://m.androidcentral.com/report-says-samsung-wont-use-snapdragon-810-upcoming-galaxy-s6
Report says that Samsung won't use Snapdragon 810 in Galaxy S6, overheating issues to blame
By Harish Jonnalagadda | Jan 21 2015 | 4:25 am | 12 Comments
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Over the last few years, Samsung has stuck to a release model for its flagships that sees the inclusion of Qualcomm chips for LTE markets, and Exynos-based variants in South Korea and emerging markets. That may change with the Galaxy S6, as a report out of Bloomberg states that Samsung won't offer a Snapdragon 810 variant of the Galaxy S6 on grounds of overheating issues.
Citing people familiar with the matter, Bloomberg says that Qualcomm's eight-core Snapdragon 810 "overheated during the Korean company's testing," with Samsung finally deciding not to use it altogether. Samsung will instead launch the Galaxy S6 with an in-house Exynos SoC. The South Korean manufacturer has been making huge strides in the field of application processors, with the latest version featuring an integrated LTE modem.
Samsung isn't far off in terms of processing power when seen against Qualcomm's offerings, but the vendor, along with everyone else in the segment including MediaTek, Intel and Nvidia, are miles behind Qualcomm when it comes to LTE modems. For instance, Qualcomm announced that it will offer the Snapdragon 810 with an LTE Category 9 modem that can attain download speeds of up to 450 Mbit/sec.
If Samsung is indeed looking to boycott the Snapdragon 810, it may be in the minority, as LG's G Flex 2 has Qualcomm's eight-core SoC, and HTC's upcoming One M9 is also expected to feature Qualcomm's latest.
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Tswfootball
If Samsung skips it due to overheating issues should we be concerned about flagship devices using it?
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arutemauepon
We don't know if it's real or they just made it up so they can opt for exynos
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rd_nest
Why should they do that when they have been using Qualcomm for past many years? It's a business, not fight among kids where you need to give a useless logic. If Samsung just wanted to use Exynos, they would simply do so without even talking about Qualcomm. There is no logic to giving any sort of explanation.
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Benjamin_NYC
Right. It's a business. And using their own in house chip is cheaper. This is a smoke screen.
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9ersfan3
The Exynos 7 is so powerful it may have the 810 trumped. I wish the SD 805 had issues that forced Samsung to go with only the Exynos 5433 on the note 4, lol. Exynos is now top of the line. The days of the octa 5420 (which is still very powerful) are over. The cat 9 of the 810 is impressive though
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Well it's all rumours until the phone actually shows up, personally don't mind either one, as both the Snapdragon and Exynos (which one though?) seem to be beasts.
But some modders might not like the Exynos
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zizu101
At the HTC event, I would like if AC could ask about this issue. I don't want to get an overheating mess on the m9.
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Benjamin_NYC
LOL AC "editors" don't ask any "questions" that might prove difficult for manufacturers or Google. They simply report the fluff presented to them.
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rd_nest
 @harish Jonnalagadda, why are you mentioning Cat 9 modem as it is of much importance here? Samsung already is planning for in-house Cat 10 modem, so why suddenly Cat 9 be of any importance. Forget Cat 9/10, how many regions can actually exceed Cat 6??
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-exynos-cat10-lte-450mbps,28177....
http://www.gsmarena.com/next_samsung_exynos_soc_rumored_to_feature_cat10...
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Peter Burkes
I have a Samsung Galaxy s5 & its over heating as well. Never had this problem before with any Galaxy phones.
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Mighty_Red
Bit of a worry really, as if it is a problem with the 810 chip itself, the other vendors will have issues. On the other hand, if it is simply the design of the S6 that is to blame for the issues then Sammy are not doing such a great job.
Either way, I'm glad I'll be skipping this years offerings, hopefully 2016 will have stable CPU choices, 2K with no lag and type C USB
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What are you talking about? There are no 2015 flagships even out yet...
How about waiting for facts before making absurd comments...
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If the overheating issues are a fact, then Samsung would have an edge if they designed a mean SoC. Especially if their competitors are going for the 810.
I've also been missing the Wolfson DAC, since the Exynos version is impossible to find unless I'm looking abroad. Would be nice to have that opportunity.

With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
It would be better if Samsung stuck to one CPU per Galaxy model though, IMO, I remember the Note 2 being Exynos globally, if I'm not mistaken?

POLO_i780 said:
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
It would be better if Samsung stuck to one CPU per Galaxy model though, IMO, I remember the Note 2 being Exynos globally, if I'm not mistaken?
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Yep, same as the S3.

S3 had snapdragon s4 in north america i think
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lordoftheriffs said:
S3 had snapdragon s4 in north america i think
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That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.

Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
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My understanding was that it used separate lte radio. Now days they go for integrated solution
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Glad they are dumping crapdragon (as I call) in favor of exynos, the should have done it long back
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POLO_i780 said:
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
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Agree.
As I've said before, the 810 turns out to be a bad chip.

Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
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Wait, there was no SD Note 2?

Mafle93 said:
Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
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That's correct, there were variants with different radio support but they all used the Samsung Exynos platform rather than Snapdragon. I initially assumed a friend in the US was wrong when he said his US Note 2 was Exynos but when I read up on it I couldn't find any variants using a Snapdragon platform.

Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, there were variants with different radio support but they all used the Samsung Exynos platform rather than Snapdragon. I initially assumed a friend in the US was wrong when he said his US Note 2 was Exynos but when I read up on it I couldn't find any variants using a Snapdragon platform.
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Hm, I didn't know! Usually, we get the SD where I live. Our S3 was Exynos. I stand corrected.

snapdragons this generation and the next suck so im happy they decided to ditch it for the s6. maybe we will get a 64 bit kernel for our note 4s finally if they go all in on exy 7s for the s6.

They should put a heatsink fan on s805
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Personally, i give a damn on what processor the Note 5 will use (as that will be my next phone or maybe the Note 6). Because what matters to me is that the CPU and ofc the GPU gives me good performance and as long as i can root and install a good custom ROM on the Note without any hassles or problems, then i will be all happy.
I know there are more support for the Snapdragon CPU's when it comes to custom ROM's, but i do believe it's alright for the Exynos version to if i'm not wrong here?

Mafle93 said:
Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
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Nope. This is why "Exynos abuse" was easiest way to root Note 2.
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zurkx said:
snapdragons this generation and the next suck so im happy they decided to ditch it for the s6. maybe we will get a 64 bit kernel for our note 4s finally if they go all in on exy 7s for the s6.
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Agree. I tried out Note 4 with SD at Best Buy and decided to go with Exynos version. The lags and stutters on SD version are too obvious. Also not happy with audio/music quality on SD DAC.

Tom-Helge said:
Personally, i give a damn on what processor the Note 5 will use (as that will be my next phone or maybe the Note 6). Because what matters to me is that the CPU and ofc the GPU gives me good performance and as long as i can root and install a good custom on the Note without any hassles or problems, then i will be all happy.
I know there are more support for the Snapdragon CPU's when it comes to custom ROM's, but i do believe it's alright for the Exynos version to if i'm not wrong here?
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You mean you don't give a damn? Anyway, CPU performance is hardly a problem these days. A lot more of it is in software optimization. The support for the SD SoCs is a lot bigger, since it's everywhere. More closed source SoCs, like the Exynos, are only to be found in Samsung's phones. It's harder to develop a proper CM for it due to closed source libs, but some of the most skilled developers in here are still doing some amazing work.
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Nope. This is why "Exynos abuse" was easiest way to root Note 2.
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I see, thanks
Personally, I think Samsung should go for the Exynos, as Qualcomm has hardly any competition. With Samsung being one of the biggest manufacturers, I think it can make a huge difference. If Samsung is just consistent, using only the Exynoses in their flagships at least.

Exynos Note 4 users can expect a increase in Android development if the chip used in the S6 is similar enough =)

Qualcomm to provide Samsung with a modified Snapdragon 810:
http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomm_to_provide_samsung_with_a_modified_snapdragon_810-news-10895.php

Info: Samsung involvement in upcoming Qualcomm processors.

Samsung has been licensed by Qualcomm and he been manufacturing some 28nm FinFet Snapdragon processors. Samsung will be continuing this trend for Qualcomm's upcoming 20nm and 14nm FinFet processors as well. These include upcoming Snapdragon 625, 629, 815 and 820 processors. Samsung, however, will be continuing to manufacture their own Exynos processors in the future as well.
Which processor should you opt in for Exynos or Qualcomm chipsets in future Samsung devices?
It's your call~
-->Samsung has been continuing the trend of releasing two variants for their new Galaxy lineups, one with Exynos and one with Qualcomm.
The advantage of Qualcomm processors:
1) GPU has been optimized with the SoC to provide the maximum performance (TFT process).
2) Processor clock frequency will be higher than Exynos and provide better peak performances.
3) Modem has been integrated with the SoC to provide the maximum battery life.
The advantage of Exynos processors:
1) Better multicore performances. (Samsung KTA optimizations).
2) Every core is optimized for Samsung devices. (Samsung KTA optimizations).
3) SoC is strictly designed for Samsung devices. (Samsung KTA optimizations).
4) Thermal and Pressure Canopy technology. Your phone will now operate is harsh conditions without sacrificing your phone's lifespan.

tkmobilesupport said:
Samsung has been licensed by Qualcomm and he been manufacturing some 28nm FinFet Snapdragon processors. Samsung will be continuing this trend for Qualcomm's upcoming 20nm and 14nm FinFet processors as well. These include upcoming Snapdragon 625, 629, 815 and 820 processors. Samsung, however, will be continuing to manufacture their own Exynos processors in the future as well.
Which processor should you opt in for Exynos or Qualcomm chipsets in future Samsung devices?
It's your call~
-->Samsung has been continuing the trend of releasing two variants for their new Galaxy lineups, one with Exynos and one with Qualcomm.
The advantage of Qualcomm processors:
1) GPU has been optimized with the SoC to provide the maximum performance (TFT process).
2) Processor clock frequency will be higher than Exynos and provide better peak performances.
3) Modem has been integrated with the SoC to provide the maximum battery life.
The advantage of Exynos processors:
1) Better multicore performances. (Samsung KTA optimizations).
2) Every core is optimized for Samsung devices. (Samsung KTA optimizations).
3) SoC is strictly designed for Samsung devices. (Samsung KTA optimizations).
4) Thermal and Pressure Canopy technology. Your phone will now operate is harsh conditions without sacrificing your phone's lifespan.
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I personally prefer Exynos. The way the each core is designed provides better thread perf. per core.

Makes no difference to me if my network gets Exynos Note 5 I'll get a Exy. Note 5, if they get Qualcomm Note 5 then I'll get a Qualcomm Note 5.
What I do like in the QC Snapdragon variants is the battery life, having the latest LTE Cat support at the time.
What I like with Exynos, is Samsung always staying on the cutting edge, although that isn't always a benefit as I learnt with the Exynos S4.
Can't really say I prefer one over the other.

POLO_i780 said:
Makes no difference to me if my network gets Exynos Note 5 I'll get a Exy. Note 5, if they get Qualcomm Note 5 then I'll get a Qualcomm Note 5.
What I do like in the QC Snapdragon variants is the battery life, having the latest LTE Cat support at the time.
What I like with Exynos, is Samsung always staying on the cutting edge, although that isn't always a benefit as I learnt with the Exynos S4.
Can't really say I prefer one over the other.
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I agree with you. If we look into the processor execution protocols (AEX,ATS64, Trust Execution.etc), Exynos definitely is ahead of the game. When it comes down to stability and the development support, I would say Qualcomm is ahead of the game.

Exynos or Snapdragon? My thoughts..

I am in Europe and I am ready to buy the phone. My dilemma is between the two variants. I read all threads in forum and i believe that probably i am going with Snapdragon because:
1) better battery life
2) better gpu performance
3) better data speeds
4) phone runs cooler than Exynos
5) kcal color control support
6) fm radio
7) slightly cheaper
My only concern is the lack of roms, kernels vs Exynos vesrion.
Your thoughts?

You would actually get better Battery Life with the Exynos variant of the Note 9 than the SnapDragon variant. As Samsung's Exynos SOC is far more energy efficient than Qualcomm's SnapDragon SOC. I can confirm that the SnapDragon SOC runs far hotter than the Exynos too. and that is before the infamous SnapDragon 810 fiasco. The Adreno GPU used in the Snapdragon is slightly better than the Mali GPU used in the Exynos. But in terms of gaming both of them are excellent.

Where's your evidence for that? Many users have been complaining about Exynos battery life and that the Snapdragon is way better. The Exynos S9 wasn't as efficient as Snapdragon due to some hotplugging issue and there's no evidence this was fixed in Note 9. The Exynos Note 9 performs better than S9+ probably due to better thermals and less throttling.

I have an Exynos. It's always cool. It has amazing battery life (1d(6.5-8hSOT)). It h
I have an Exynos.
It's always cool even when charging. It has amazing battery life. (1d 6.5-8hSOT)
And I also think that Exynos has better camera processing. That was a case on Note 8 at least.

dinohodzic7 said:
I have an Exynos.
It's always cool even when charging. It has amazing battery life. (1d 6.5-8hSOT)
And I also think that Exynos has better camera processing. That was a case on Note 8 at least.
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I agree with the camera comment.
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tsoureki said:
I am in Europe and I am ready to buy the phone. My dilemma is between the two variants. I read all threads in forum and i believe that probably i am going with Snapdragon because:
1) better battery life
2) better gpu performance
3) better data speeds
4) phone runs cooler than Exynos
5) kcal color control support
6) fm radio
7) slightly cheaper
My only concern is the lack of roms, kernels vs Exynos vesrion.
Your thoughts?
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get the snapdragon variant
for the last two generations the snapdragon variant is better and more advanced
835 and 845 are better than the Exynos counterparts
also there is a huge GPU difference Adreno wipes the floor with mali look at pubg fps with settings for example

FYL21 said:
Where's your evidence for that? Many users have been complaining about Exynos battery life and that the Snapdragon is way better. The Exynos S9 wasn't as efficient as Snapdragon due to some hotplugging issue and there's no evidence this was fixed in Note 9. The Exynos Note 9 performs better than S9+ probably due to better thermals and less throttling.
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I am currently using the Exynos variant of the Note 8 and I can say with 100% certainty that it is much more energy efficient than the Snapdragon variant. I also have friends who have both the Exynos and Snapdragon variants of the Note 9. They confirm with me that the Snapdragon variant is more power hungry than the Exynos variant.

Exynos also gives you better sound quality in headphones if you care for that. Exynos has Cirrus Logic DAC and the Snapdragon version has Qualcomms built in DAC. I sold my LG G7 as I think the Samsung sounds better.

tsoureki said:
I am in Europe and I am ready to buy the phone. My dilemma is between the two variants. I read all threads in forum and i believe that probably i am going with Snapdragon because:
1) better battery life
2) better gpu performance
3) better data speeds
4) phone runs cooler than Exynos
5) kcal color control support
6) fm radio
7) slightly cheaper
My only concern is the lack of roms, kernels vs Exynos vesrion.
Your thoughts?
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The sd845 version - it got better battery life, faster real world CPU performance(the exynos frequency scaling/hotpluging/control is handicapping it hard. Samsung have a good big core and poor knowledge how to use it + it's power hungry), less frame drops in the UI, 25-35% (depending on the workload) faster GPU. The exynos got better DAC and... that's all, it's just bad this year.
Not like the phone is bad, I have exynos note 9, got it on good price via carrier and no SD variant. Still, that doesn't mean that the sd845 variant is not vastly superior as it is. Search the xda forums as it was discussed here and few people got both variants - all of them kept the sd845 and returned the exynos stating they didn't expect the difference to be that big even if they come in it prepared there will be some.
As for the ROMs - superior hardware is always better than "hacking" for better performance. You have "samsung good lock" if you wan't to modify the interface and the functions of the phone. Also look at the dev subforums, not like it's filled up with a lot of ROMs/kernels and most likely never will. For sure it's not worth it to get the inferior variant just to have access to few ROMs/kernels that will never match the raw speed of the sd845 variant.

Isn't it really more about LTE bands? I'd think in Europe, the Exynos would be the obvious choice.

This might offer some insight in battery life (S9+ but almost the same thing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgz0YIEKFTc
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Worth noting that they didn't test CPU/GPU intensive apps apart from the camera.
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There is a good chance that I'll be grabbing a SD Note 9 to run alongside my Exynos S9+. If I do, I'll do a ton of testing.
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Last post, I promise. In my experience, I have a slight preference for Exynos due to root availability. Having said that; I've found that Exynos pumps out better CPU's and Snapdragon has better GPU's. Antutu, 3dMark, and Geekbench usually back this up. Not to mention the fact that My SD Note 3 would run emulators smoother than my EX Note 4.

robroy90 said:
Isn't it really more about LTE bands? I'd think in Europe, the Exynos would be the obvious choice.
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I just found out that both the N960F/FD and N9600 are GSM devices and are compatible with all European Cell Providers.

Exyons vs Snapdragon

Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
Thank you in advance

Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better

keaheng said:
Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better
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Actually Exynos devices are sold in the EU, Austrailia and parts of the middle East. The US and East Asia use Snapdragon devices.

keaheng said:
Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better
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Common really Lesson learnt ? Exynos is awesome! There are to many factors just to blame Exynos, his network could suck ? Or the game (Pub G) has a bug that's causing the lag! Or in game settings aren’t optimized ? You cant balme the cpu for in game lag! Exynos Rock they are awesome chipset!

N1NJATH3ORY said:
Common really Lesson learnt ? Exynos is awesome! There are to many factors just to blame Exynos, his network could suck ? Or the game (Pub G) has a bug that's causing the lag! Or in game settings aren’t optimized ? You cant balme the cpu for in game lag! Exynos Rock they are awesome chipset!
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oh? https://youtu.be/3l-7uFhSKGw

Ahmed Elkhyate said:
Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
Thank you in advance
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The snapdragon version is better in every possible way - GPU (on average 30% faster), the CPU (in every real world scenario or bench, except geekbench), better battery life. That said, the exynos 9810 is perfectly capable to run PUBG maxed out smoothly. I tested it in android oreo on my exynos note 9. It's possible that the game has some issues with the pie update, as the new GPU driver is actually giving around 10% more performance in every scenario.

I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.

Ahmed Elkhyate said:
Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
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You have to wait next pie updates. Exynos is the best chipset on device market but always has been limited due to battery and device safety.

N1NJATH3ORY said:
i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.
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You're trying too hard my friend. In the end all that matters is real life performance... and since the Galaxy S8, the Exynos has been biting the dust. (The Exynos S7 was actually faster than the Snapdragon S7 in real-life screnarios though, except in 3D performance).
I'm not saying the Exynos is a mediocre SoC, but clearly Samsung failed to deliver for some time now. Today, in 2019, the Snapdragon variant of the S9/N9 is without a doubt the one to get if your cell. network is supported. The Snapdragon 845 is also more efficient and less power-hungry.

robinnl192 said:
I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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This was valid in the past, the latest snapdragons DAC is really a step up, especially the one in the snapdragon 845. I still would put on top the exynos 9810 DAC tho, but by not that much compared to the past SOCs.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.
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True and wrong. It's true that the M3 cores has a lot of brute power and also it's true that there is a lot of room for improvements regarding 9810 control... sadly as you said it was rushed, half baked, android 9 improves it a bit but still it's like 1/4 of the max potential and as we know - new phones are coming with new SOC's and this will be leaved as it is, sadly. Wrong in the meaning that the exynos 9810 can't beat snapdragon 945, because if you unleash it the power consumption would be insane and it will lead to a lot of heat, throttling (thermal), poor sustain from those two and really bad screen on time. And this is only the CPU, the GPU is no contest at all - the adreno is around 30% faster (depending on the workload)... atleast we got around 10% higher scores with the newer driver in the android 9 tho. Also wrong in the meaning that the only CPU bench that puts exynos on top is the geekbench, every other CPU test or bench is giving the first place to the sd845, including the more close to real world tests like pcmark. I have the exynos note 9 btw.

high_voltage said:
This was valid in the past, the latest snapdragons DAC is really a step up, especially the one in the snapdragon 845. I still would put on top the exynos 9810 DAC tho, but by not that much compared to the past SOCs.
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Allright! Didn't know they came back more. Good to know.
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SD:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874435&postcount=31
my OC Exy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874576&postcount=32
and attached is with NON OC kernel
the line is thinner and thinner....

bober10113 said:
SD:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874435&postcount=31
my OC Exy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874576&postcount=32
and attached is with NON OC kernel
the line is thinner and thinner....
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Aha, but a few problems:
1) this is not the stock ROM/kernel and some of us prefer to not unlock as it voids the warranty + you literally will need to flash updates every single month as this phone is heavily supported
2) your battery life will be a lot worse vs the snapdragon 845
3) you GPU is still 30% slower and some of us DO game on that phone
4) this is benchmarks after all, real world can be different and you will most likely have a few frame drops while the sd does not
It's not that simple as to flash a custom kernel, but it's a good reference point that samsung have a lot of room to improve the SOC control, but they will not do it, mostly because the galaxy s10 is here and every single competent engineer will work on it + future devices.

I don't understand how these differences can be clearly representing in real world use, everyday use, to the average and enthusiast consumer. I'm actually thinking about buying an Exynos Note 9 for one reason: ROOT.
I'm sure I'll be just as happy with the performance of the Exynos chip just as I am on this Snapdragon. I don't really game that much, anyway. Not stuff like shooters at least.

roaduardo said:
I don't understand how these differences can be clearly representing in real world use, everyday use, to the average and enthusiast consumer. I'm actually thinking about buying an Exynos Note 9 for one reason: ROOT.
I'm sure I'll be just as happy with the performance of the Exynos chip just as I am on this Snapdragon. I don't really game that much, anyway. Not stuff like shooters at least.
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Well, there are a few forum fellow members that got the both variants. All of them said the same - that they came prepared for a difference in favour of the snapdragon, but was surprised how big it is and all of them returned the exynos keeping the snapdragon variant. This should sum it up from "real world" perspective. The exynos is not super bad or anything, the snapdragon version is just THAT much better.
Also if you want more scientific approach - anandtech Andrei's note 9 sd vs note 9 exynos direct comparison. For the numbers, but the real world is coming from our forum. I am sure if you search long enough that you will find atleast some of those comparison and opinions.

high_voltage said:
Aha, but a few problems:
1) this is not the stock ROM/kernel and some of us prefer to not unlock as it voids the warranty + you literally will need to flash updates every single month as this phone is heavily supported
2) your battery life will be a lot worse vs the snapdragon 845
3) you GPU is still 30% slower and some of us DO game on that phone
4) this is benchmarks after all, real world can be different and you will most likely have a few frame drops while the sd does not
It's not that simple as to flash a custom kernel, but it's a good reference point that samsung have a lot of room to improve the SOC control, but they will not do it, mostly because the galaxy s10 is here and every single competent engineer will work on it + future devices.
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in my heart of hearts, I'll take any advantage I can to tip the scales on my side. why? because I can.
nothing ventured nothing gained.
and again benchmark numbers VS benchmark numbers,
the line really is thinner. no longer is it 30% on GPU and what ever it was on CPU

Luv my EXynos Note 9! ftw

high_voltage said:
Well, there are a few forum fellow members that got the both variants. All of them said the same - that they came prepared for a difference in favour of the snapdragon, but was surprised how big it is and all of them returned the exynos keeping the snapdragon variant. This should sum it up from "real world" perspective. The exynos is not super bad or anything, the snapdragon version is just THAT much better.
Also if you want more scientific approach - anandtech Andrei's note 9 sd vs note 9 exynos direct comparison. For the numbers, but the real world is coming from our forum. I am sure if you search long enough that you will find atleast some of those comparison and opinions.
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Hmmm. But root, though. It's a compelling reason to get an Exynos. I'm not sure how much longer it may be for something awesome to happen on the Snapdragon side of things when it comes to root but it'll probably be many moons from now. Exynos is here already able to root and I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on buying one.

roaduardo said:
Hmmm. But root, though. It's a compelling reason to get an Exynos. I'm not sure how much longer it may be for something awesome to happen on the Snapdragon side of things when it comes to root but it'll probably be many moons from now. Exynos is here already able to root and I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on buying one.
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well the 9600 would be the best of both worlds. just not much development. but then again note 9 exynos developemnt is not much anyways. There seems to be a bigger community around on telegram with roms that have more mods than what we currently have on xda...
but I feel content with my n960n.