[Q] Can't boot (FOTAFS_Open... Error) - LG Optimus L90

I just got a used LG L90 to see if I could get it running, so far I can't.
When I turn it on it displays the LG logo for a few seconds then flashes to a green screen that says "Updating software (2/2)" for a fraction of a second before showing a black screen with the following white text:
FOTAFS_Open /cache/fota/log/FSUA_LOG_000.txt, 0, No such file o
FOTAFS_Create /cache/fota/log/FSUA_LOG_000.txt, 66, No such fil
FOTAFS_Close 0
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I searched around and found that this phone had a system update that didn't complete correctly and now is stuck like this. I have no idea how to fix it though. I tried the "Flash Stock KDZ Offline LG L90" process, which was apparently successful but it didn't change what is happening.
Notes:
* If I restart with power+volume down it goes to the factory data reset page, but when I select yes it just does the reset, so no recovery is installed.
* If I hold volume up and plug in USB I can get to the software upgrade screen, that's how I did the KDZ flash. Can I do anything from that screen?
Please let me know, or point me in the direction of useful posts. I haven't done anything like this in a couple of years, so I'm a little out of the loop on most things.

Another Note:
On the Firmware Update screen there's a box at the bottom that says:
USER B40
ROOTED
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Not sure if that will help any with the diagnosis. I've been trying to get ADB to connect but I can't get it to see the device. (Running adb with the
Code:
adb devices
command and it doesn't show anything).

can anyone had solution to this............??
My phone also struck at same mode.....
fake fota test error

I had no responses to this in any of the forums I posted in. I tried everything I could think of and eventually just contacted LG support. They took the phone in and yesterday I got it back. Looks like they switched it out for a new one, and the problem is obviously solved.
Not a very XDA solution, but an effective one nevertheless.

futhamucka said:
I had no responses to this in any of the forums I posted in. I tried everything I could think of and eventually just contacted LG support. They took the phone in and yesterday I got it back. Looks like they switched it out for a new one, and the problem is obviously solved.
Not a very XDA solution, but an effective one nevertheless.
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Yaa.
I contacted LG too .
they wanna replace motherboard..
I think I am missing something...??
because, when I flashed new KDZ it again boots into the same ..
I am trying to get adb access,
If I got the access I can remove laf.img so i can enter into fastboot mode. where I can flash rom/ recovery
otherwise wiping cache and fota partition might work...
still doing some experiments..
But in G2 forums,
one member mentioned that it can't solved until u go to LG service..
but I saw some guides in G2 to unbrick ..
I'll try....

The notes from the repair said something about a "bad language" and that they replaced the motherboard.
It's definitely a new phone though, there were scuffs on the corners of the one I sent in that are not there now, it's scratch free!

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Any way to recover from boot loop?

Ok, first of all I know it's been said not to mess with Framework. I read that too late =/
I was trying to install a status bar replacement, which overrides framework-res.apk. It sent it into reboot loop. I can get to recovery screen, but factory reset doesn't do anything of course.
I also can get to bootloader. It gives me the following:
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Bootloader
29.01
Battery OK
OK to program
Transfer mode:
USB
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It's connected through USB and bootloader recognizes that. My question - is there a way to push original framework-res.apk back to the phone or is it completely bricked?
I posted in an existing thread about this already, but figured I might have more luck with a new thread.
If you
Code:
adb devices
does it show up? I'm unfamiliar with this type of situation. =p
Oh sorry, forgot to mention that. adb devices doesn't show anything in either recovery nor bootloader.
When connecting through USB and starting bootloader, I can hear the sound of device found on my PC, but it doesn't get found and is listed as "S Flash OMAP3630 MI" with a ? mark in device manager.
Yikes, can't help you with the obvious then (just pushing framework-res.apk again).
Yeah, I was really hoping to somehow get in there with adb
As suggested in another thread, I tried applying .604 update, but it aborts when verifying current system with CityID.apk as a reason. I removed it along with other bloat from the phone.
Also when trying to remove app files I don't have on the phone from update.zip, it fails when verifying the update file.
hey its me again, take a look at this!
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...your-x-stuck-bootloop-you-want-look-here.html
Thanks for the link!
That guy got lucky cause it bricked after he put all the bloatware back on the phone lol. So he had all the default apps. Mine gets stuck when verifying my system and complains about CityID.apk missing. And as we figured out, your previous suggestion with removing files from the zip messes up its integrity.
So I went to a Verizon store and got a replacement ordered. I was afraid they'd start asking if I'd rooted it, but apparently the guy helping me didn't even know what that is He tried a factory reset and then just ordered a new phone.
Thanks for your suggestions, guys!
He may not of known that the x has been rooted yet lol. Or you can just find something small and miniscule to complain about on you phone to get a new one. When the dare first came out I had a new one at the end of every month just for the fun of it. And they where always replaced with a brand new phone. Did that for atleast 5 months before getting a cheap wm phone because they felt bad about all the hassles I had.
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Did the same thing with mine, except my framework file is there, just renamed. I tried last night to figure out how to change the name back with adb but never could.
to the OP, how did you get to that Bootloader? The only thing I have been able to do is get into "Android System Recovery (2e)", which is done by holding Home while powering up the phone. If you hold Home, you'll get a screen with Android next to an exclamation point sign. At that screen you can press Search to open up the menu system, and then you have the ability to reboot, apply update.zip from microSD, wipe data/factory reset, and wipe cache partition.
I am trying to get into ADB so I can potentially work on this phone and fix it. At the moment I am boot looping like nobody's business
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Found the answer myself on this forum: "Hold down the power+vol down+camera button."
This works, but from what I can tell, it puts the phone into a basic USB flashing mode that is useful if you wanna reflash the ROM. At the moment there isn't anything available which could be flashed onto the phone (need to wait for an SFP file?), so I'm stuck waiting.
If/ when the 2.2 update leaks, I believe I can at least try to install that via MicroSD while in System Recovery Mode. I already unbricked my phone once by doing that, but then removed exactly the wrong APKs so now I cannot use that trick a second time
Yep, that was exactly my experience. If I didn't remove bloat apk's, I'd be able to apply .604 update, but...
And yeah, bootloader doesn't do much at this point since we have no way/no ROM's to load.
As far as I remember, Verizon have one month return policy, so I'd suggest just taking it to them. I had my replacement ordered with no questions asked. I just said I was installing an app and it rebooted and went into a loop.

[Q] Optimus black stuck on firmware update screen

The story so far...
Bought a new Optimus Black and gave it to my girlfriend for her birthday a couple of days ago. After playing with it for about an hour she put it down, I picked it up and decided to have a tinker. I installed Cyanogen mod 3.5.1 after rooting it with Gingerbreak. So far so good but I didn't really like the look of the ROM and the absence of a Market seemed like hassle so I used ClockworkMod to restore the backed up stock ROM.
It's still working fine but now I see there is an official update from inside the phone. I presume it's the upgrade to Android 2.3 so run it and reboot the phone. That's when it all goes wrong. I'm now stuck in the CWM recovery screen. I try all the options, following any online guides I can find that were supposed to have worked for people. I try restoring the backup, restoring cyanogen, clearing the cache, dalvik, everything but nothing happens and I keep booting back into the CWM recovery screen.
Next day I try the LGUnitedMobileDriver and the phone recovery option but despite trying several times I can get no further. A friend tried to use Odin to restore it but got no success. Finally, we tried restoring with a KDZ file with
KDZ_FW_UPD_EN, Windows Enabler and LG B2CTool and now the phone got stuck in yet another loop - a black screen with 'updating firmware'. The LEDs flash for a minute and it reboots and does the same again.
What's more, the phone will now no longer charge or turn on without being connected to the mains.
What are my options here?
Follow the tutorial given below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275315
Thanks, but I've already tried that and it doesn't work. I'm forever stuck in the firmware update screen.
pickarooney said:
Thanks, but I've already tried that and it doesn't work. I'm forever stuck in the firmware update screen.
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have you tried the CS_EMERGENCY option in R&D TOOLS? Wait I'll find the link..
Here >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18841596&postcount=8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18740082&postcount=45
The CS_EMERGENCY is the only thing worked, he used a german V10A ROM. If you managed to unbrick it, you can flash it again with your desired KDZ, or use CS_EMERGENCY and flash directly your desired KDZ. TRIAL AND ERROR.
Emergency c-section... nope, I will try that now!
Said that it will get stuck at 4% but it is still flashing. Just wait for the phone to reboot by itself.
It just crashes with a fatal error as soon as it gets to the second tab (downloading) on both PCs I tried it on. I tried several KDZ files with the same result.
Does anyone know if it's possible to physically change the ROM on this phone and if it would be worth trying that before binning the thing?
pickarooney said:
Does anyone know if it's possible to physically change the ROM on this phone and if it would be worth trying that before binning the thing?
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Does it have warranty? Why not RMA it, I think it has a hardware problem now since you mentioned it doesn't charge anymore. Also, have you tried a different USB cable?
The warranty gets voided as soon as you root or mod a phone and it's probably as expensive to get it fixed outside of warranty as to buy a new one.
pickarooney said:
The warranty gets voided as soon as you root or mod a phone and it's probably as expensive to get it fixed outside of warranty as to buy a new one.
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Most of the time they change the board right away if it can't boot (as many as I've read) board was changed and none just revived the OS. So they won't know you rooted it. Just specify that they should contact you first before making any changes.
gabwerkz said:
Most of the time they change the board right away if it can't boot (as many as I've read) board was changed and none just revived the OS. So they won't know you rooted it. Just specify that they should contact you first before making any changes.
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true.. you can just tell them that you received an update and upon getting it the phone wont boot anymore.. just dont tell them that you rooted it or tinkered it in any way.. i'm sure you'll be able to get your warranty that way..
darkzorn said:
true.. you can just tell them that you received an update and upon getting it the phone wont boot anymore.. just dont tell them that you rooted it or tinkered it in any way.. i'm sure you'll be able to get your warranty that way..
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Well, that's exactly what I did so we'll see in two weeks if I get a fixed phone free of charge
pickarooney said:
Well, that's exactly what I did so we'll see in two weeks if I get a fixed phone free of charge
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Fingers crossed for you !!!
pickarooney said:
Well, that's exactly what I did so we'll see in two weeks if I get a fixed phone free of charge
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IT will mostly work..Good luck though and please do reply here and let us know if it worked..

[Q] Please help me, is my phone bricked?

I'm a complete noob in dire need of help. I wanted to root my phone, and read the 3 procedures mentioned in the sticky thread. The 2nd one (nvflash) seemed very well explained and was sure to work with 2.3.4 so I decided to use that. As I was in my friend's house I used his pc and installed the drivers while my phone was connected in apx mode. Then I double clicked the "install internal xp" batch file which resulted in a black window with some texts, but seeing this my friend freaked out and closed the window before the process was finished. I told him he shouldn't have done that. I then disconnected the phone and switched it on. It seemed to switch on properly. So I then switched it off again and pressed and held the power and vol down switches to see if I got cwm. This showed LG screen for a few seconds and then the screen went off.
Now whatever I try to do I can only see the LG screen for a few seconds and then the screens goes off. No power on, no recovery, no nothing. And I can only attempt to even power on once, after the screen goes off I must remove the battery before the power button does anything again.
I tried to freshly nvflashing the recovery many times, but it made no difference. Does this mean my phone is bricked? Please tell me how I can solve this as I'm really worried.
NVFlashing the recovery again *should* have worked. So we first need to make sure you're trying to start CWM the correct way.
1) Unplug phone
2) Remove battery for 10 seconds.
3) Insert battery
4) Hold volume-down, do not let go, keep pressing it.
5) Press power button, keep it pressed.
If/when you get the second LG-logo, bluish halo, you can release both buttons, not before.
Nope, that was exactly what I was doing to access the recovery. I tried it again just now and it didn't work.
It just displayed the regular LG logo and then the screen went off. I'm not sure the phone completely shuts down 'cause if I keep it like that it gets quite hot and I can't use the power button again to try to power up. Only removing and re-inserting the battery gives me another attempt.
Is there any chance this is a hardware issue?
Hardly any chance this is hardware related if it was working before the first NVFlash.
Good, next step will be to NVFlash a complete stock ROM. You will unfortunately lose any data you might have on it, but that's the price to pay.
Go here, follow the instructions precisely, skip installation of apx-driver. Report back.
http://www.modaco.com/topic/335474-25-mar-nvflash-stock-rom-release-v10b-dated-1300166062-15032011/
Ok, so I just download the 200mb file, connect in apx mode and double click flash.bat, right? And will this rom work regardless of country/region? I'm from India and was running stock 2.3.4 with v20* (can't remember the letter. God, I hate myself).
sean8000 said:
Ok, so I just download the 200mb file, connect in apx mode and double click flash.bat, right? And will this rom work regardless of country/region? I'm from India and was running stock 2.3.4 with v20* (can't remember the letter. God, I hate myself).
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It works, yes, but is the original Froyo. This is just a way to get the phone up and running again.
Later you have a few choices. Either install CWM, then install you ROM of choice, or upgrade it to the latest for your region by using the LG Update tool.
EDIT. Oh, and btw, it is better to open a command-window and type the flash.bat command. If there are any errors you will still have them on-screen.
Thank you for all the help and support. I didn't get a chance to flash the rom till now (being on a vacation without a smartphone sucks). But I'll try it asap and report back.
So, how did it go?
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So, how did it go?
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I haven't flashed it yet. I've decided to do it after I return home. I'm at my friend's house for 2 more days.
Ok, bad news. I flashed the stock rom you linked. The process went pretty smoothly. After the window got closed and the lg logo on the phone was visible 2 times, I unplugged it and installed the battery. But switching it on wasn't fruitful. It just displayed the LG logo for a couple of seconds and then the screen went off (just like before, only faster). I tried repeating the whole process, even tried to nvflash cwm once again, but nothing happened.
So is it a hardware issue? My phone is no longer in warranty period, so a hardware problem would be really bad...
So is it a hardware issue?
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I don't know.
What would be helpful is to get a copy of the output you get when you NVFlash, it's simply the only way to verify that the flash process went ok. If you have an aborted flash it of course won't work, and may display the behaviour you describe.
EDIT: Btw, early on there were some ROMs which refused to boot properly unless the baseband was of an early variety as well.
If you feel confident the NVFlash has been successfull, smartflash an old baseband as well, see if it boots then.
Its hardly a hardware problem. As you dont have the warranty anymore, and the bootloader is probably corrupted, i would recommend a Jtag service.
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gabriel2anjos said:
Its hardly a hardware problem. As you dont have the warranty anymore, and the bootloader is probably corrupted, i would recommend a Jtag service.
Please, dont be afraid of hitting thanks
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Now what's this "Jtag service"? (edit- I googled it and it seems to be a method of un-bricking stuff with specialized hardware or something, but I'm not sure I can have that done where I live)
Is there any way to fix the bootloader by myself?
@Trym- So, I should download a v10 baseband and flash it with this "smartflash" tool, right?
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@Trym- So, I should download a v10 baseband and flash it with this "smartflash" tool, right?
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Yeah, as a last-ditch effort. I haven't the slightest hope it'll help, but it can't hurt to try.
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Yeah, as a last-ditch effort. I haven't the slightest hope it'll help, but it can't hurt to try.
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Ok, I'll try that when I have the time.
So do you know anything about this corrupted bootloader thing? Does this mean my phone's hard bricked?
sean8000 said:
So do you know anything about this corrupted bootloader thing? Does this mean my phone's hard bricked?
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If it is you're only the second person in this forum to ever brick his phone. Anything's possible I guess. Some flash cells may have been damaged the first time the power was yanked. But then we should presumably get some verification errors during flashing.
Anyway, I'm at my wits end, and I really do hope you get it up and running, but I don't have anything more to contribute. Good luck.
Corrupted bootloader means that your cellphone simply don't know what to do when you hit the power button, due to the damage. As the cell phone can't turn, the pc can't recognize it. If your cell phone were a samsung, you could try to use a jig to have acesso to the download mode. But I don't know if it would work for a LG. You could try anyway.
And if you live at big city, usually it's common to have some jtag services.
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Please, dont be afraid of hitting thanks
Ok, so I took the phone to the service center today. The guys there said its battery terminals are messed up. They said replacement terminals are not easily available, but they'll try to find some. And of course I'll have to pay for it. I guess it's still better than using the phone as a paperweight.
What do you guys think?
Good luck I managed to mess up my phone like you too. I'm from India. But the difference was that I was covered by warranty. I managed to get a bunch of hardware replaced and was up and running again.

[Q] 6 Hours later = Brick... Official LG ICS [SOLVED]

Hey everyone.
I have the LG Thrill (P925) from AT&T. I'm used to changing roms and trying new things.
Well today I get a text from AT&T saying ICS is out, so I go and download the LG Mobile Support Tool
like the text says. The first few times don't work. I got stuck at the LG boot logo. (I didn't wipe the phone before.)
So I wait an hour to 1.5 hours. Still nothing. I try again and search the forums while I wait. Someone says to try using XP.
So I try in XP mode under Win 7. Everything is going well up until 90%. It does the whole driver disconnected sound as per normal
but then it happens. My phone starts up and shows the LG logo for 3/4ths of a second and then restarts (Black screen for 2 seconds) and
then repeats the whole process over again. What can I do?
(EDIT: Almost forgot: I was on CM7 when I tried to go to Official ICS)
All from the official LG tool...
SOLVED
After trying a few things I held the Volume up button and the power button to get it recognized by the computer. Then
I found a different copy of the LG Mobile support tool than what was on their site. I used the recovery phone option and it worked!
Hopefully this will help someone. I'll post where I got the tool soon.
Could you please give a link or tell me where you got the other lg mobile support tool. Because everything was going good for me and my phone restarted after it was done updating. But when it restarted it got hung up at the att animation and it just stays there... The way I got the official lg mobile support tool to recognize my phone was to put it into download mode also.
I got the KDZ_Flashing_Software.zip from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191698
Install the msxml from the zip then you can use the B2CAppSetup program.
Hope it helps.
uberlight25 said:
Could you please give a link or tell me where you got the other lg mobile support tool. Because everything was going good for me and my phone restarted after it was done updating. But when it restarted it got hung up at the att animation and it just stays there... The way I got the official lg mobile support tool to recognize my phone was to put it into download mode also.
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uberlight25 said:
Could you please give a link or tell me where you got the other lg mobile support tool. Because everything was going good for me and my phone restarted after it was done updating. But when it restarted it got hung up at the att animation and it just stays there... The way I got the official lg mobile support tool to recognize my phone was to put it into download mode also.
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Did these suggestions work for you? I'm in the same spot (frozen at&t logo). I've tried recovery phone several times to no avail. Trying one last time hoping for a miracle.
I was running a acidhazardrom gingerbread rom before attempting to update to latest official ICS. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
byetimmy said:
Did these suggestions work for you? I'm in the same spot (frozen at&t logo). I've tried recovery phone several times to no avail. Trying one last time hoping for a miracle.
I was running a acidhazardrom gingerbread rom before attempting to update to latest official ICS. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
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You should probably boot into stock recovery....do it the same way you boot into CWM .....and do all the wipes it should boot then
malebornin69 said:
You should probably boot into stock recovery....do it the same way you boot into CWM .....and do all the wipes it should boot then
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I only got to a menu to wipe my device once. I tried many times and the time I got to it it only had one option which didn't seem to help.
byetimmy: Did you try using the tool I suggested in my post?
Jackelope said:
I only got to a menu to wipe my device once. I tried many times and the time I got to it it only had one option which didn't seem to help.
byetimmy: Did you try using the tool I suggested in my post?
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I found out what I did wrong. I didn't uninstall the version of the LG Support Tool before using the one specified in your first post. I removed the original LG support tool and used the one you found and it worked.
Thanks for your help.
byetimmy said:
I found out what I did wrong. I didn't uninstall the version of the LG Support Tool before using the one specified in your first post. I removed the original LG support tool and used the one you found and it worked.
Thanks for your help.
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Glad to help.
I know it's something I did, probably the custom image I had running, but the LG Support Tool totally borked my phone. My Thrill would only stay on for a split second, and would continuously boot cycle when plugged into USB. The boot cycle was so fast that half the time it wouldn't even get to the LG logo!
Fixed it with fastboot (omap4boot) and SmartFlash Tool. What a nightmare. Only good thing is I was able to flash from BIN file directly to ICS.
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I know it's something I did, probably the custom image I had running, but the LG Support Tool totally borked my phone. My Thrill would only stay on for a split second, and would continuously boot cycle when plugged into USB. The boot cycle was so fast that half the time it wouldn't even get to the LG logo!
Fixed it with fastboot (omap4boot) and SmartFlash Tool. What a nightmare. Only good thing is I was able to flash from BIN file directly to ICS.
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Thanks for your help too. Obviously these issues stem from the fact that we used custom roms on the Thrill. It doesn't help that the LG Tools are complete software crap.
byetimmy said:
Did these suggestions work for you? I'm in the same spot (frozen at&t logo). I've tried recovery phone several times to no avail. Trying one last time hoping for a miracle.
I was running a acidhazardrom gingerbread rom before attempting to update to latest official ICS. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
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I encountered the same problem as you.
LG Support Tool too bad.
maybe I will update the rom using the bin file.
guys please help! i was running on ICS(official)...... i tried fixing kernel key with OS hacking method and now the phone is bricked!i can still access CWM though! when i use the LG mobile support tool, it gets stuck here
PyroTech76 said:
I know it's something I did, probably the custom image I had running, but the LG Support Tool totally borked my phone. My Thrill would only stay on for a split second, and would continuously boot cycle when plugged into USB. The boot cycle was so fast that half the time it wouldn't even get to the LG logo!
Fixed it with fastboot (omap4boot) and SmartFlash Tool. What a nightmare. Only good thing is I was able to flash from BIN file directly to ICS.
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how and where did you get the files to do that? im stuck at the lg screen after trying to do the ics update
spinks420 said:
how and where did you get the files to do that? im stuck at the lg screen after trying to do the ics update
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From this thread I used "omap4boot-for_optimus-v1.21"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33628316&postcount=1
Good luck my LG Thrill brethren!
PyroTech76 said:
From this thread I used "omap4boot-for_optimus-v1.21"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33628316&postcount=1
Good luck my LG Thrill brethren!
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noope still stuck at the lg screen

Recovery Mode - what to do?

Found my fire tablet with a black screen and in Amazon system recovery <3e> this morning - not sure how it got into that state & how to get out of it. To my knowledge I didn't press any combination of keys that would get me into that state. It had been only very low battery when I plugged it into the electrical socket last night but I didn't touch it until the morning when I found it in this black screen state.
From searching I think this is the Amazon version of Android System Recovery screen. The exact options are:
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Amazon system recovery <3>
Volume up/down to move highlight;
enter button to select.
reboot system now
apply update from ADB
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
reboot to bootloader
power down
view recovery logs
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I haven't rooted the tablet although I did apply the "Installing Google Framework/Playstore without Root (5th Gen Amazon Fire 2015)"
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122)
I've had it for about a month without problems although a couple of days ago it kept trying to update several times in succession.
It has attempted to update a couple of times in the past, which put me into a panic at the time but when I'd check afterwards it would still show 5.0.1. firmware. Also the difference this time was that in the past it would only attempt to update the once, not several times in succession.
I'd assumed that installing "Installing Google Framework/Playstore without Root (5th Gen Amazon Fire 2015)" doesn't stop the fire downloading updates but prevents them being installed. So when it happened in the past I didn't worry.
I'm not sure what to do (logically I'd assume I should just select the 1st option and reboot) but I'm not sure how I even got into this screen and if there's a reason for it so hoped someone might be able to advise me.
With thanks & crossed fingers
Frankie
Sorry - one other question!
Which key is the "enter button"?
FrankieChen said:
Sorry - one other question!
Which key is the "enter button"?
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I've not used it but as we only have three buttons I'm going with the power button.
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I've not used it but as we only have three buttons I'm going with the power button.
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That's what I suspected!
Update
Well I ran out of power so the tablet switched off.
When I plugged it into an electricity socket, I decided to try the "reboot system now" option but it just rebooted and cam back to the same screen. I tried it about 4 times with the same result so I tried the "power down" option but it still returned to the same screen when switched back on.
Would really appreciate anyone's help.
Hmm, is there anything in the recovery logs?
Maybe reboot to bootloader, and see if it'll let you twrp to it from a pc, head to the twrp thread and grab the files.
fastboot boot TWRP_Fire_2.8.7.0.img
If it'll do that it's not on 5.1.1 at least, if not it might have tried to get there.
I haven't followed your instructions yet as after I posted last, it started to flash an error message along the lines of battery was too low to "factory reset" and something else - I don't recall what though. I didn't actually select any options apart from reboot and power down.
It was plugged in at the time but I unplugged it & replugged it in, in case for some reason it wasn't charging.
Since then the error message has stopped flashing and I just have a blank screen although you can see it is backlit. Pressing the power button has no effect
And that's on the charger it came with?
It's not looking good.
FrankieChen said:
...I haven't rooted the tablet although I did apply the "Installing Google Framework/Playstore...
...I'd assumed that installing "Installing Google Framework/Playstore without Root (5th Gen Amazon Fire 2015)" doesn't stop the fire downloading updates but prevents them being installed....
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I know this doesn't help your current situation, but just FYI, neither root nor google framework have anything to do with OTA updates. Only hiding/disabling/deleting the OTA related apks will prevent updates.
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I know this doesn't help your current situation, but just FYI, neither root nor google framework have anything to do with OTA updates. Only hiding/disabling/deleting the OTA related apks will prevent updates.
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True but the thread he's referring to does offer that function as an option in the batch file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
Tomsgt has put together a little install bat (Amazon-Fire-5th-Gen-Install-Play-Store.zip)
Now includes Removing Advertising and Blocks Over the Air System Updates (02 Nov 2015)
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julianpaul said:
I know this doesn't help your current situation, but just FYI, neither root nor google framework have anything to do with OTA updates. Only hiding/disabling/deleting the OTA related apks will prevent updates.
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It's still useful information - thanks
It's on the charger it came with and it has finally returned to the same Amazon system recovery screen.
In regards to preventing the updates - I think I did that when I installed the google apps but it was the 1st time i ever did this (it's my 1st tablet), and as it was over a month ago I can't be sure - this is all very new to me.
There are 4 recovery logs, completely meaningless to me.
/cache/recovery/last_kmsg
/cache/recovery/last_log
/cache/recovery/last_log1
/cache/recovery/last_log2
the kmsg log zooms past too fast to read with endless pages dealing with "swapper/0"
the last_log seems to have stuff reffering to tzdata, build, product.cpu, ro.product, dalvik and so on . Log1 and log2 seem to be similar stuff but shorter.
Any idea what I should be looking for?
I hoped it would be readable, build number might yield clues.
Given it will show something seems worth trying to see if twrp can see it in bootloader.
It may not have any thing to do with the updates as it was working after the updates had tried to install though I have to admit I only used it for a few minutes and I didn't check it before I plugged it in to charge the night before I found the black screen.
I don't actually have a clue what you mean when you say "twrp can see it in bootloader." so I will have to spend some time reading the forums to figure out what to do.
In desperation this morning I took the wipe data/factory reset option but it didn't work. It returned with the same screen and the error message
E:Error in /cache/recovery/dropbox_last_kmsg (Read-only file system)
I had installed the dropbox app but I had never actually signed in so there wouldn't be any data there.
After rebooting and being returned to the same screen, I attempted again to wipe data/factory reset.
This time it gave the message "data wipe complete" but still returned to the Recovery screen.
I've read the term "bricked" in several of the forums - is this what has happened to my device?
I wondered if I should contact Amazon about it as it's still under warranty but wondered if by installing gapps (and most likely having prevented updates as I followed all the instructions), whether I'd have invalidated my warranty.
FrankieChen said:
After rebooting and being returned to the same screen, I attempted again to wipe data/factory reset.
This time it gave the message "data wipe complete" but still returned to the Recovery screen.
I've read the term "bricked" in several of the forums - is this what has happened to my device?
I wondered if I should contact Amazon about it as it's still under warranty but wondered if by installing gapps (and most likely having prevented updates as I followed all the instructions), whether I'd have invalidated my warranty.
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At this point, if you have adb drivers (or are comfortable installing them) you may as well try sideloading an update bin file. Links are here. I'd get the 3820 file.
If you want to do this, post back and I or someone will give you the steps. Otherwise, Amazon has been good about replacing tablets if you just describe what you say in the 1st paragraph of your post.
FrankieChen said:
It may not have any thing to do with the updates as it was working after the updates had tried to install though I have to admit I only used it for a few minutes and I didn't check it before I plugged it in to charge the night before I found the black screen.
I don't actually have a clue what you mean when you say "twrp can see it in bootloader." so I will have to spend some time reading the forums to figure out what to do.
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use the reboot to bootloader option
set pc up with fastboot and see if it can be booted into twrp by fastboot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63635664&postcount=9
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/twrp-recovery-t3242548
Thank you for the replies. Sorry not to have responded earlier, I had a busy few days and although I have spent a lot of hours trying to read through the forums and find out about twrp, this is the 1st opportunity I have had to get back to trying to resolve the problem.
If I understand correctly, DoLooper has suggested sideloading an update bin file. (3820). I just started trying to do this but as the file to be downloaded is over 600MB and I am on a very slow connection it's showing it's going to take between 7-8 hours to download. If I take this option I will need to wait until tomorrow when I can get to a faster internet.
Pond-life, you have suggested that I
1. "use the reboot to bootloader option"
I'm presuming that this means that I have to select this option from the recovery screen on the tablet - does the tablet have to be attached to the pc via the USB cable when I select the option?
What should I expect once I have selected this option?
Would the tablet not need to be rooted to access the bootloader (as it isn't)?
2. "set pc up with fastboot and see if it can be booted into twrp by fastboot"
When I 1st got the tablet I had difficulties getting the adb drivers to install on my pc and after several days of trying I ended up doing it on another pc which I no longer have access to.
I have tried again to reinstall the drivers using rootjunkies file but again without success. I tried doing it using that method as I remember trying to do it that way (what felt like a billion times) though I don't remember if I finally ended up succeeding with that method or another.
I followed your link "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63635664&postcount=9" and tried the 1st method
"[TOOL] [WINDOWS] ADB, Fastboot and Drivers - 15 seconds ADB Installer v1.4.3 by Snoop05"
running the "adb-setup-1.4.3.exe" I get "0 files copied" after selecting "Yes to install ADB system-wide" which I recall was the problem (zero files copied) that I had previously.
Openning Device Manager after this does show any Fire or Android devices even when the tablet is connected so I'm assuming that the adb driver installation is failing.
I tried again with "adb-setup-1.3.exe". This time I had 4 files copied and got fire listed in the device manager but when I tried to update the driver I am not given the Android option in the list when I select the option to install driver.
I googled to see if anyone else had this error and I found that some peoplehad difficulties installing on XP but seems that MTP not being supported is the reason and it is resolved by installing WMP v10 and above. I have v11 so presume that's not the problem.
I don't have access to another computer at the moment to try and install the adb drivers but should be able to use another one tomorrow. Last time when I got the drivers to install it was on a vista machine so I wondered if that might have something to do with it.
The other thing that occurred to me was maybe there is something wrong with the cable as I only get the fire shown in the device manager for a few moments before it refreshes and then the fire is no longer shown.
I wondered if I should try to use USBDeview (as per http://www.inlovewithandroid.com/android-usb-connection-problems.html) to see if that is the problem. Certainly if I can the drivers installed on another pc it might suggest that there's a problem with mine.
Anyway, if I get the adb drivers to install successfully on another pc, could you explain what I am trying to do by "booted into twrp by fastboot"? Sorry to be so useless!
Huge thanks
Yeah the files needed will all be pretty hefty. So if thinking about going to a custom rom this would be a good time. Though wouldn't download one or the stock until you've seen if you can use it.
1. Yeah I did mean choose that option on that menu you have onscreen. Doesn't need to be attached to go to the screen technically, but won't be able to do anything there until it is connected so no benefit in not waiting until you are. No doesn't need to be rooted. You'd expect it to go to an almost blank screen with =>FASTBOOT mode.... on it in landscape.
2. On plus side you wouldn't need the adb drivers... But the fastboot ones are probably similarly tricky. These ones worked for me https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...etting-up-your-kindle-fire-tablet-for-testing
Though I've not used XP.
If it will fastboot into twrp then you can put the original stock rom on or either of the custom ones from there, so it's not dead and can get to downloading. (or 5.1.1 stock using the safe twrp method)
Did you use a different cable on the machine you got it to work on then? If not probably not the cable.
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Yeah the files needed will all be pretty hefty. So if thinking about going to a custom rom this would be a good time. Though wouldn't download one or the stock until you've seen if you can use it.
1. Yeah I did mean choose that option on that menu you have onscreen. Doesn't need to be attached to go to the screen technically, but won't be able to do anything there until it is connected so no benefit in not waiting until you are. No doesn't need to be rooted. You'd expect it to go to an almost blank screen with =>FASTBOOT mode.... on it in landscape.
2. On plus side you wouldn't need the adb drivers... But the fastboot ones are probably similarly tricky. These ones worked for me https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...etting-up-your-kindle-fire-tablet-for-testing
Though I've not used XP.
If it will fastboot into twrp then you can put the original stock rom on or either of the custom ones from there, so it's not dead and can get to downloading. (or 5.1.1 stock using the safe twrp method)
Did you use a different cable on the machine you got it to work on then? If not probably not the cable.
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Thanks for all your help Pond Life.
I had such difficulties get the files to download that in the end I gave up and rang Amazon and they offered to send me a replacement.
Sorry to bail out, this is all new to me and most of what everyone has said has me completely baffled so I've decided to take the easy way out.
Thank you again - I really appreciated all your advice.
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Thanks for all your help Pond Life.
I had such difficulties get the files to download that in the end I gave up and rang Amazon and they offered to send me a replacement.
Sorry to bail out, this is all new to me and most of what everyone has said has me completely baffled so I've decided to take the easy way out.
Thank you again - I really appreciated all your advice.
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Better luck with the new one

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