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I have not yet updated my Captivate to 2.2. Reading posts in regard to the update I am very bothered by a common complaint that battery life has just died. My Captivate has excellent battery life using it fairly heavily over a 1 day period. I charge it every nite. Also, my GPS is workng fine in 2.1. So am considering not updating it due to the problems I am hearing about.
Anyone else have input on battery life after the update??
I went from STOCK 2.1 to Cognition 4.1 (built on Froyo 2.2) and my battery life is about the same. My usage varies wildly from day to day, but as best as I can tell, overall battery consumption is about equal.
I wonder if the people complaining about battery life have set up their phone "post-update" with different apps or turned on "apps syncing background data"...
Battery life did reduce on 2.2 but it is obvious in my point of view. But its not too bad either.
it's about the same, i upgraded to stock 2.2, feel no difference on the battery life. moderate usage last mine for about more than 24 hrs, u should update to froyo for you to experience it.
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SnackCracker said:
I went from STOCK 2.1 to Cognition 4.1 (built on Froyo 2.2) and my battery life is about the same. My usage varies wildly from day to day, but as best as I can tell, overall battery consumption is about equal.
I wonder if the people complaining about battery life have set up their phone "post-update" with different apps or turned on "apps syncing background data"...
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I upgraded Stock 2.2 end of Feb and noticed a big drop in my battery life the first week. But just reading above, i did turn on "apps syncing background data" so i think that's my problem. Just turned that off so we shall see...
Let your phone go through a week or so recharging cycle before judging its battery life after a ROM flashing. You just lost all your battery stats when flash a new ROM. Your phone/OS has no clue how your battery will operate until it has time to learn or you manually calibrate it.
For what it is worth, my battery life is about the same or slightly better than leaked 2.2 ROM as well as 2.1 ROM. No big changes.
My battery has been about the same since the 2.2 upgrade. At first it felt like my battery was draining quicker but I also noticed I was playing with more phone more. The screen is the biggest power drain on the phone so just playing with menus and looking at new settings can cause a small dent.
Give it a week or two after upgrading and you'll notice it'll be about the same. Unless of course you have more accounts or programs syncing data in the background.
Why upgrade to 2.2
Thanks everyone for the input. The more I read and hear the more I am leaning toward not upgrading to 2.2. On different forums I am seeing and hearing problems with battery life and some saying about the same battery life. Also, seeing GPS not being fixed or going from working ok or good to not working so good. Right now my phone does everything I want, GPS works really good, email works fine, internet works fine, battery life is outstanding, mp3 works great, screens all are clean and to my liking, I have an easy work around for turning off 3G and one tap returning my volumes to normal after using a USSD code.
REally cannot see any advantage to upgrading and risking introducing a problem I don't need. The list of new features really does not thrill me.
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Thanks everyone for the input. The more I read and hear the more I am leaning toward not upgrading to 2.2. On different forums I am seeing and hearing problems with battery life and some saying about the same battery life. Also, seeing GPS not being fixed or going from working ok or good to not working so good. Right now my phone does everything I want, GPS works really good, email works fine, internet works fine, battery life is outstanding, mp3 works great, screens all are clean and to my liking, I have an easy work around for turning off 3G and one tap returning my volumes to normal after using a USSD code.
REally cannot see any advantage to upgrading and risking introducing a problem I don't need. The list of new features really does not thrill me.
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2.2 ROM is a big step forward, not backward, IMO. Sure it didn't solve GPS issue but it is not making it worse either. GPS issue is purely hardware issue. If you have a good one, it doesn't matter which stock firmware you use.
I just can't see any disadvantage for upgrading (other than slightly more difficult to root or unlock, but not impossible). Battery life thing is as I mentioned above. You will see all kinds of complaints (either dain too fast or too slow) after a new firmware comes out, any firmware. You don't know what you're missing until you upgraded.
I noticed a big improvement in battery life. Sometimes with light use it will last up to four days, whereas before with 2.1 it would putter out after maybe two days.
GPS isn't fixed, but drop one of many GPS fixes in and it will get somewhat normal performance.
Wifi sleep policy
You may also want to check the Wifi sleep policy after the upgrade to Froyo. In my case, the default was "Never sleep". Changing this to "When screen turns off" improves battery life on 2.2, as it does on 2.1.
Just my $.02 worth.
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Let your phone go through a week or so recharging cycle before judging its battery life after a ROM flashing. You just lost all your battery stats when flash a new ROM. Your phone/OS has no clue how your battery will operate until it has time to learn or you manually calibrate it.
For what it is worth, my battery life is about the same or slightly better than leaked 2.2 ROM as well as 2.1 ROM. No big changes.
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I'm on stock 2.2 since the day it came out. My battery life is actually trending worse day-by-day. I did a full battery clear/reset this weekend and after 4 days I'm finding battery life is not improving at all. The degradation from stock 2.1 is significantly noticeable to me.
For the first couple of days post-update it seemed actually to be better, but got worse and worse, to where I was lucky to find the phone working 12 hours after disconnecting from the charger @ 100% ... even if I hadn't -touched- the phone during the day. My applications loaded are virtually identical to before.
I did have Background Data on, so I've just disabled it, but was this option not in 2.1? I know that Google Voice, etc, were doing background syncs in 2.1.
It can't be WiFi, as for the last 2-3 days I've kept WiFi turned off. However just for sanity I did adjust the sleep policy.
I'm wondering ... my battery woes seemed to start when I hooked up my Microcell. Could having a strong 3G signal so close to the phone actually be causing problems?
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I did have Background Data on, so I've just disabled it, but was this option not in 2.1?
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it is the same as in 2.1.
I'm wondering ... my battery woes seemed to start when I hooked up my Microcell. Could having a strong 3G signal so close to the phone actually be causing problems?
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That might be your problem. I don't know. I know 2.1 doesn't work very well with microcell either.
Yep. I'm pretty convinced it is the microcell now. Phone works great with it from a call/data/signal standpoint. However after unplugging my microcell last night, charging my phone to 100%, and then letting the phone discharge normally with no microcell ... I'm now 10 hours later and have an almost full battery.
Sad, because our reception here is so spotty that we lose calls and data regularly without the microcell. My wife says her phone charge has been pretty normal, so I'm getting ready to move the cell away from my desk and see if distance helps the story.
So, as far as this thread is concerned, my results for 2.2 and battery life are great ... better than with 2.1 ... just don't use it with a microcell.
Froyao 2.2 Battery Usage Dillema
I see no significant or excess battery drain while riding the KB1 over the JF6.
Just a thought for those experiencing excessive or significant battery drain. KB1 loads some new features and new additional bloatware that loads on boot and runs as a service, process and both.
If you're familiar with poking around your system settings and understand what doesn't need to always be running in the background, or what doesn't need to load on boot, you can simply kill the process and even alter the way a certain application handles on boot.
By killing many unneeded or unwanted processes at boot time, it will significantly save you hours upon hours of battery life in the longer scheme.
Another FYI, Lithium Ion batteries have memory. You need to train or retrain the batteries memory over time in order to sustain a longer life for it.
Tips:
Don't continually through the charger on your device after minimal drainage. Let the battery run down before fully recharging it again.
When flashing to another ROM wipe your battery stats.
When flashing any new code to your device - a few forced charge deaths to purge the battery and reset the memory again prior to recharging may be a good idea...
Hope this helps...
Peace-
Liv33viL
Hi everyone. My battery life is really sucks. I bought my item two days ago. It is new. And I upgrade my version and baseband , kernel and build version like below :
N70000XXLB2
2.6.35.7-N7000XXLC1-CL1003701 [email protected]#2
GINGERBREAD.XXLC1
I think that this version xxlc1 is last version but I wonder how is my kernel version ?
Battery life is very bad.
Moreover Charging lasts so long. 3 -4 hours sometimes.
PLEASE Help me! please
depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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when i see some kind of usage experiences, I am so jealous. How they use this much ? HOW. I only use wifi and radio.
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
letters_to_cleo said:
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
to get battery life you either
a) dont use your phone or
b) get information to use your phone more wisely
So..
a) download a battery monitor.. there are a bunch recommended..
b) read the other 200 threads on battery life and dont start another one. Each and every question has been asked and answered ad nauseum
while you are figuring out root, and task killers, here are a few easy tips to help..particularly when you are putting the phone down for a while
apps>task manager>active apps> CLOSE ALL
apps>task manager> RAM> CLEAR MEMORY
settings>applications>running services> review and shut down apps/games that may be running in background (and that are not critical)
Again.... RESEARCH the forum.. the answers are already here. and you should read and post in existing threads
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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You could also have a defective battery.
On my iPhone 4, my first of 4 that were faulty, battery life depleted in less than 12 hours of STANDBY only on wifi, nothing syncing. Only being on. Battery life was so bad.
It's not uncommon to get a dud battery sometimes.
Try doing a complete restore, stock EVERYTHING, don't push anything (except email, cal, and contacts, you know, the basics) and see if you're having the same results. If on a fresh, stock, install you're having the same issues, then you've got a defective unit and/or battery.
Hope I've helped.
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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There are quite decent custom roms for the Note. I have tried many gingerbread versions (Chracks, rocketrom, cassies etc) currently on chrack's v18 small (LC1) with speedmod latest kernel.
I have not faced performance issues on this. But each user is different so u r the boss.
Best give the custom kernels a try for now. If u find the battery life better then ur problem is solved. The advantage of custom rom is that so much useless bloatware in the stock is removed for better space mgt & performance.
have provided some tips in the following link, feel free to go thru.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600691
eediz said:
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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dude, you are ridiculing some of the well known devs who have made custom ROMS for all to appreciate and use. IF there was and is a problem on a particular custom ROM, it is or might be cause indirectly on the user itself, on what apps he/she insatalled on his phone. Surely you cannot generalize all custom ROMS have problems do you? if all have problems, the devs have some new revisions to fix those bugs and in no time at all your Note would be in tip-top shape again.
If as what you say, Custom Roms have problems.... then why the heck most people I know have used them and have big wide grin on their face to show off what they have and even posting a copy of their latest ROM pictures here... not to mentioned in YouTube as well.
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
go read the threads on battery performance.. loading a new ROM will not fix problems if you do not know what you are doing.
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ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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Hi there.
I had the same issues but only after the update done on ICS.
I have over 140 different application and nearly all of them have been purchased.
What happens is that, when you are not using your phone it should go to "deep sleep". This allows your phone not to run any application and merely use any battery. Your problem probably come from somewhere in your setting an automatic update. That drains a lot....
I downloaded different application hoping that it would work out such as Juice Defender, watch dog and many others. After lots of research, I found out that it is not good for your phone to have an auto killer app or even an application that modifies the functions of other applications.
So I downloaded battery spy and cpu spy on "google play" and followed the instructions.
I needed a deeper analytic application "Kernel" and this was THE application that allowed my phone to go from 6-8 hour to 28 hours.
"Better battery stats", it's not free but was really worth the spending.
Google play chronological download
1) watch dog
2) battery spy
3) cpu spy
4) better battery stats
Good luck
I keep switching my cellphone off while not using, and same goes for wifi. Using it as a secondary phone as well. It lasts only 4-6 hours.. :S I keep closing background apps, and kill app once im done with it..
Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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If you like stock samsung looks try CleaNote 3.10 , very good n battery life , I get around one day backup with heavy usage and 2 days plus with moderate usage .
If like pure google , then try cm9 , very stable and quite good on battery back up .
And if you dont use 3g or 3.5 g or any such networks then select GSM only or use 2g networks only ( Settings -> under wireless and connectivity , More -> Mobile Networks )
Also keep your display brightness to minimum , control the brightness manually instead of auto brightness .
Turn off auto sync ( big advantage over battery ) .
Scan for running apps and cached apps and force stop the ones which you dont use .
Use titanium back up and freeze some of the bloatwares ( stock samsung apps ) or uninstall them , like readers hub , mydiary , they are **** .
And dont use task killers , they drain your battery . they may clear rom but some apps restart automatically and that needs more juice than running those apps . Hope all these suggestions help . From my experience with this phone
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Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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Thanks for that, i will install it. By the way i got the "battery widget" installed, which has gained popularity on the market.
Also im only using 9% of brightness of my phone.
I'm using a rooted stock 4.0.3 and I'm finding battery life its pretty good - better than unrooted GB was in fact. Simply freezing bloatware via titanium and limiting sync on some (not all) apps and services makes a gigantic difference. Design your phone around your own needs and you'll end up with an amazing device that you'll fall in love with all over again.
Sent from my gnote as always
So I've been testing CM9 for quite a while now and can't help notice the battery life has been reduced heavily compared to Honeycomb 3.x.
Now, I don't mind that my battery life gets a bit shorter as ICS brings more features and might be more power hungry. But I went from my tab being able to hold a charge in standby mode in 3 weeks to barely 3 days. And if I use it more heavily, it barely holds a day, which is worse than my Motorola Atrix and that's just not normal.
Now, I've been discussing this with pershoot and for him it must coming from something I do. Honestly I don't see what. In the Honeycomb days, I used to have so many apps installed (may 100-150) and battery life was fine. In CM9, I'm running 50 apps, the essential ones. All the apps that could be power hungry have those settings set to off. No push notifications, very large updates intervals (a day) or none when possible. Also, I run most on these apps on my Atrix (which has more apps installed) and my battery life is way better on the Atrix.
In usage itself, I don't see any change, it seems the tab consumes the same amount of battery than before. It's the sleeping battery life that is terrible. In my case, in sleep mode, wifi is off, brightness is set to Auto and data is off (not the signal itself but I tried to take off the SIM and the battery life is the same).
Honestly, not having to care about charging every day is a must feature for a tablet.
I'm running now RS125 ICS, based on stock and the issue is also there. So I wouldn't say it's something related to CM9 but more on how ICS behaves with our tab.
I've read report of other people complaining (with the 10.1 also) so I wonder if it's a general issue. Could you please fill the poll so we can see if there's an issue and if so, how could we identify it ?
Don't hesitate to describe your tab usage and battery life !
Thanks !
For me worsts battery life was with the official 3.0.1. 3.1 was big improvement. 3.2 and 4.x were a little bit better than 3.1.
Got gmail and exchange push notifications turned on, but most of the time the tab is connected to the wi-fi, not to the 3G network
Attached is my personal stand-by record on the 10.1v. I think it was with one of the first pershoot's CM9 roms
Hi Danny,
Same for me. Especially the standby mode I see a battery drain.
By the way, somehow my battery usage is not working since I moved to the official ICS ...
Cheers
No problem @all. Stock 4.0.4 with OC kernel.. Looks like this:
GT-P7500 [email protected]
Kernel info...
GT-P7500 [email protected]
Hi All,
I see my self as a hobby flasher. I generally flash my phone 1-2 times every 2 weeks as I'm always unsatisfied by the performance/batt life.
Generally speaking I believe I have tried most roms. I like new project, well knowing that these often is not as optimized as the well tried roms that have been in "production" for many months. But I have some questions popping up, that I would like an answer to.
1. Is it only me, or has all Cyanogen 10.1 roms generally speaking a bad performance? I tried seveal performance kernels, but this rarely helps. If my phone is not randomly freezing, things like google now and chrome have problems. Either it is okay performance wise, or the batterylife is horrible.
2. Batt life. I have now had my note just above one year. Like 13 months or so. In the beginning the battery life was descent. On close to every XDA rom I have tried the batterylife is really short. Surfing on my phone for 1 hours eats a LOT of battery and my phone gets warm. Of cause the factory roms "knows" all the hardware secrets, and are able to produce an optimized rom, but until now I am to be positively surprised about battery usage in any user rom. Any advice? Recently I have disabled location settings/latitude etc, and this have helped some (obviously) but can it be that the built in google features take that much battery? Betterbatterystats confirms that google location services uses a LOT of juice. Are your experience the same?
3. Is the chrome browser that bad? - I use it mainly as I use chrome on my computer and I have all the book marks, but I think it keeps freezing. Generally speaking I think it is okay, but it is by far the app I use that freezes/FC most. Is your experience the same? What browser do you use?
4. What is your Rom/Kernel setup? It will have to offer good (maybe not great) performance, but will have to have great (not good) batterylife.
Looking forward to your replies.
-Benjamin
Anybody?
1. > on CM10.1 and battery is great, and very smooth.
2. > location services do use a lot of juice. i have it as disabled as well.., Notes battery doesnt seem to last more that 10-11 months.. lot of people were able to get good performance of new batteries.
3. > stock browser works best for me
4. > CM10.1 .. its own kernel... have used angry rom VT1 as well.. good..
I've got a 2 year old I9305 from the UK that's rooted and using the German 4.3 Stock ROM (couldn't update to 4.3 with a UK ROM at the time).
The battery life used to be much better - I've had it for a year (I bought it as not working from a family member and then got it running) and would easily get over a days use including hooked up to the wifi most of the day, 2-3 hours with the screen on etc but now I find I'm often getting less than a day with similar use. I've since done a factory reset and re-installed my apps but it's not improved anything noticeably.
I rotate through 4 Anker 2200mAh a genuine Samsung and a Samsung battery bought on Amazon (genuine - not sure about that!) using a wall mounted charger to do most of the charging as I spent the last 8 months traveling and didn't want my phone sat around in dorm rooms plugged into the mains while I wasn't in the room.
If I only had the one battery then it would make sense that it's ability to hold a full 2100mAh charge would drop after a year but with 5-6 batteries taking the strain, I'd assume that this would be less likely. I was looking at apps like Nova battery tester and An tu tu Tester and will give them a go tonight on which ever battery is in the phone - are they any good?
If the batteries are still taking a solid charge then I guess it's time to go back down the route of a custom ROM but as I travel a lot, I'm loathe to mess around with my S3 too much. I had an HTC HD2 that was running CWM and a couple of different ROM's and it died on me a couple of times while I was on the road. That was less of an issue than it will be now as I was traveling with a netbook - the S3 is my only device now so I need to to be stable. I'm not averse to going through the process of putting a ROM on the phone if there are a couple that are known to be super stable and lighter than stock on battery life, but if I can stick with my stock set up with some tweaks...I've got All in one toolbox controlling which apps load on boot, greenify to hibernate apps (instead of a task killer knocking them off) and No Bloat stopping the bloatware from running.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Hmm.. As you are using greenify, boot apps control and no bloat, you are extremely in control of your rom - that's good.
I think that there would be negligible to none difference in battery life between your rom and any custom. Stock Touchwizz roms are said to have better battery (from my own experience too), therefore installing any custom aosp rom should be rejected.
What I can suggest? Download some recent full rom from sammobile or live updates samsung (search google) and flash it through odin. Or maybe you have tried it?
However running one rom for few months may have some influence on battery too.
Also, installing custom kernel is the thing that may help you optimize battery/performance with few interesting features. Boeffla has great description and faq on the website and user-friendly config app. But that's only if you want to experiment (it is still rock-stable) a little bit.
Try custom
The 4.3 JB upgrade is well known as a battery killer. I had stock 4.3 from Base (Germany), but the 4.3 from H3G (UK) is the same for battery life. I have used CM 11.0 as well as others, almost all are nicer to batteries than stock.
Currently I use the S5 Elite Lite Rom. The current version 1.4 seems to be very stable even with both cpu and gpu overclocked. Battery life is still a little better than stock 4.3 and that is despite not using the deep sleep feature. CM 11.0 is even better for battery, at least for me probably down to there being none of the Stock bloatware. Hope that helps.
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Hbohd said:
Hmm.. As you are using greenify, boot apps control and no bloat, you are extremely in control of your rom - that's good.
I think that there would be negligible to none difference in battery life between your rom and any custom. Stock Touchwizz roms are said to have better battery (from my own experience too), therefore installing any custom aosp rom should be rejected.
What I can suggest? Download some recent full rom from sammobile or live updates samsung (search google) and flash it through odin. Or maybe you have tried it?
However running one rom for few months may have some influence on battery too.
Also, installing custom kernel is the thing that may help you optimize battery/performance with few interesting features. Boeffla has great description and faq on the website and user-friendly config app. But that's only if you want to experiment (it is still rock-stable) a little bit.
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The current ROM was one from a year ago when I first set up the phone but I've since done a factory reset and reinstalled all my apps.
I didn't realize that I could run a custom kernel with a stock ROM - that's something I'll look into. I don't have a custom recovery set up as the last time I used one on my HD2 I had nothing but trouble and, as I said, I need this set up to be reliable over pretty much everything else.
ianatuskix said:
The 4.3 JB upgrade is well known as a battery killer. I had stock 4.3 from Base (Germany), but the 4.3 from H3G (UK) is the same for battery life. I have used CM 11.0 as well as others, almost all are nicer to batteries than stock.
Currently I use the S5 Elite Lite Rom. The current version 1.4 seems to be very stable even with both cpu and gpu overclocked. Battery life is still a little better than stock 4.3 and that is despite not using the deep sleep feature. CM 11.0 is even better for battery, at least for me probably down to there being none of the Stock bloatware. Hope that helps.
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How long have you been running S5 Elite ROM? I think I'd probably stick with CM, though I'm intrigued by some of the other stuff out there, but ideally I'd like to stick with a solid, stock rom without a custom recovery.
SYMLY, I don't really understand what you meant in your post.
woldranger said:
How long have you been running S5 Elite ROM? I think I'd probably stick with CM, though I'm intrigued by some of the other stuff out there, but ideally I'd like to stick with a solid, stock rom without a custom recovery.
SYMLY, I don't really understand what you meant in your post.
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I have been running the S5 Elite ROM for a couple of weeks only. In that time I have found it very stable, by stable I mean no random reboots, and no force closes. It is not completely glitch free for example some apps need to have the sd card unmounted before being installed. I run it overclocked at 1.8Ghz and slight over clocking on the GPU too. Antutu score was around 20800. The S5 Elite ROM gives me a stock look including the S apps I want specifically SPlanner and SVoice.
If you really want to have a completely stock rom with good battery life you might need to consider downgrading to a 4.1.2 rom from Samfirmware or waiting for the fabled 4.4.2 upgrade. I've been waiting on that for months and finally gave up, hence I'm now using the S5 Elite.
Best of luck deciding, I guess there is no one size fits all solution.
Roms that may help with the batteries.
So far i've seen that stock roms usually consume less battery than stock firmware . something that may help you is deleting apps that you know you'll never use at all. that removes the autorun consuming less battery. Now. among the best but remains on 4.3, is the Alliancerom v3.5. i've seen that my battery drained less faster than on stock firmware. but also due to its kernel it can be controlled the amount of mhz using for process (if you don't know how to use it, do not touch it) . and also the charging rate can be controlled.
If you want a touchwiz based rom, i recommend AllianceROM V3.5 or AMCHA rom v6.11. Both roms are super stable, Alliance lags quite a bit though. Ive been using AMCHA (with S5 theme and agni kernel from aroma installer) rom for awhile, so far so problems and pretty good battery life
You can also try archidroid and neat ROM they are one of the best touchwiz 4.3 roms
To be honest, I'm thinking that I'd rather go down the route of checking over my batteries and trying out any other utilities that might aid in reducing the battery use of my S3.
If I were to go down the custom ROM route then I'd be more interested in the kernels as it's been pointed out that they're going to have more impact on power consumption.
So, any suggestions for utilities - as I've said I'm running all in one toolbox, no bloat and greenify. What about apps to check the actual capacity of the battery?
Well. That been said. Then my suggestion is that you delete apps you dont use at all. Actually that also works in alliancerom 3.5 or any rom or stock firmware. It is obvious that if you delete apps that have autorun enabeled by default when you restart or turn on it affects the ram and also affects the battery draining. My alliancerom 3.5 battery last even more than the original firmware. I've deleted plenty of apps i didnt need at all. More like junk to me. Of course. All of this you can do only if you are rooted. Also another suggestion. Ebay sells i9305 extended battery. It comes with the double, Triple and even more amount of mah for pretty good prices. With them i can assure you that you will use your smartphone with the highest performance without been worried of low battery until night.
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If I were to go down the custom ROM route then I'd be more interested in the kernels as it's been pointed out that they're going to have more impact on power consumption.
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No... nono ononono.
Stock kernel will have similar battery performance as agni or boeffla (on same settings). Sure, custom can bring a enhancment or two, but the battery improvements would be minimal.
A custom kernel will only improve a stock kernel battery performance if the stock kernel is ****ty to begin with. Not the case with TW 4.3
It's the rom, and it's apps and your apps.
How about installing Better Battery Stats and posting a few screenshots?
daedric said:
No... nono ononono.
Stock kernel will have similar battery performance as agni or boeffla (on same settings). Sure, custom can bring a enhancment or two, but the battery improvements would be minimal.
A custom kernel will only improve a stock kernel battery performance if the stock kernel is ****ty to begin with. Not the case with TW 4.3
It's the rom, and it's apps and your apps.
How about installing Better Battery Stats and posting a few screenshots?
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Cheers for that. I'm aware of the obvious basic stuff affecting battery use like cutting down the number of running apps (hence why I use all in one, no bloat etc) but no little about kernels or their battery related benefits.
That app sounds good, I'll stick it on today and then happily post a few screenshots for you to look through. I've just had a look and it's a paid app - bearing mind I'm only needing the use of this once or twice are there any similar free ones.
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Cheers for that. I'm aware of the obvious basic stuff affecting battery use like cutting down the number of running apps (hence why I use all in one, no bloat etc) but no little about kernels or their battery related benefits.
That app sounds good, I'll stick it on today and then happily post a few screenshots for you to look through. I've just had a look and it's a paid app - bearing mind I'm only needing the use of this once or twice are there any similar free ones.
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If you have zillion apps (like me), then they tend to update frequently, use more and more resources, and services.
I was astonished to see that some apps that i installed just in case - like ebay, skype, tripadvisor - and never used yet, - were running services and have put themselves into autostart!
if you are rooted and use autostarts utility, you can disable a lot of junk in the on start and after start events.
you will immediately see the difference in boot time.
i also deinstalled the apps mentioned above, and battery usage back to normal.
lisbon2004 said:
If you have zillion apps (like me), then they tend to update frequently, use more and more resources, and services.
I was astonished to see that some apps that i installed just in case - like ebay, skype, tripadvisor - and never used yet, - were running services and have put themselves into autostart!
if you are rooted and use autostarts utility, you can disable a lot of junk in the on start and after start events.
you will immediately see the difference in boot time.
i also deinstalled the apps mentioned above, and battery usage back to normal.
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Ok, for those new to these things I'll give you a brief run down of the 3 apps I keep mentioning to save people posting suggestions for things that they already do....
Nobloat (root) - delete (including permanently) any apps including system apps (get rid of the pre-installed bloatware.
All in one toolbox pro (there's a free version) - I use this to clean up my autostarts - I can determine which apps will load on boot - both user apps and system apps.
Greenify - hibernates apps rather than killing them so they don't then autostart. There's also a way to have apps brought out of hibernation if their push notifications come through.
All in all, 3 very useful apps.
Feel free to mention any other ones to help things run a little smoother.
woldranger said:
Ok, for those new to these things I'll give you a brief run down of the 3 apps I keep mentioning to save people posting suggestions for things that they already do....
Nobloat (root) - delete (including permanently) any apps including system apps (get rid of the pre-installed bloatware.
All in one toolbox pro (there's a free version) - I use this to clean up my autostarts - I can determine which apps will load on boot - both user apps and system apps.
Greenify - hibernates apps rather than killing them so they don't then autostart. There's also a way to have apps brought out of hibernation if their push notifications come through.
All in all, 3 very useful apps.
Feel free to mention any other ones to help things run a little smoother.
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Do what i did, i bought a 6000mah mbuynow battery off ebay which seems to be around 4000mah true. It lasts about 90% more than the stock battery. im still not impressed with the battery life as phones these days can achieve the 8 hours of screen on time that i get with my extended battery with there stock batterys. i9300 has better battery life for some reason even though my i9305 is undervolt and underclock
jazk said:
Do what i did, i bought a 6000mah mbuynow battery off ebay which seems to be around 4000mah true. It lasts about 90% more than the stock battery. im still not impressed with the battery life as phones these days can achieve the 8 hours of screen on time that i get with my extended battery with there stock batterys. i9300 has better battery life for some reason even though my i9305 is undervolt and underclock
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That sugestion is completly wrong. A 6000mAh battery is huge and adds a lot of weight and bulkiness to the phone.
Exactly! it's perfectly viable to live with a standard battery on our device, if you use a right rom and de-bloat.
Say no to bulk! ))
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