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[Q] Note 4 ~ Android 5.0 ~ Touchwiz

Okay first of all, I have only made one ROM ever, so I am not the brightest on this subject. My question though is for a Dev that is fairly smart. Would it be possible for those itching to have lollipop on their Note 4, but who don't want to lose Touchwiz features, to install the international Note 3 5.0 ROM on their Note 4 if a Dev would port it. If its possible why hasn't some talented dev( because there are several here) ported it yet. I know the structure would be a little different, but I'm thinking it would be entirely possible to port it with some tinkering. Just let me know if I am way off base or if this would be something to really look at.

why would anyone bother trying to port the note 3 version, when the actual Note 4 version will be here any day?
anyone anxious to try lollipop has several AOSP type roms to try, so waiting for the TW version is no big deal at this point

therealjwkware said:
Okay first of all, I have only made one ROM ever, so I am not the brightest on this subject. My question though is for a Dev that is fairly smart. Would it be possible for those itching to have lollipop on their Note 4, but who don't want to lose Touchwiz features, to install the international Note 3 5.0 ROM on their Note 4 if a Dev would port it. If its possible why hasn't some talented dev( because there are several here) ported it yet. I know the structure would be a little different, but I'm thinking it would be entirely possible to port it with some tinkering. Just let me know if I am way off base or if this would be something to really look at.
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Im kinda surprised the Note Edge leak hasnt trickled over in some form.

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wase4711 said:
why would anyone bother trying to port the note 3 version, when the actual Note 4 version will be here any day?
anyone anxious to try lollipop has several AOSP type roms to try, so waiting for the TW version is no big deal at this point
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Because no one really knows when the note 4 version will be here, as far as I know. Also I'm just going by the sheer volume of Roms available, I would think a correct Note 3 port would have been highly popular. Honestly AOSP Roms just won't work for a lot of Samsung fans, someone who wants to take full advantage of their Gear watch, or other samsung products linked to Touchwiz enabled devices.

good points; I guess since the "promise" of official Samsung lolli has been out there for so long, the folks who want an official Samsung 5.0 are holding out for it; you never know if a "ported" version will have all the features that the Samsung die hard fans want in their Samsung roms, so that might be part of it..
its gotta show up soon, and its insulting to the folks who own the top Samsung phone on the market that they aren't/weren't the first ones to get this on their note 4's..
Its blunders like this that will eventually cost Samsung their leadership in the cell phone world, if it hasn't already..

Most people will just wait. Porting over a waste of time for devs. Now if they knew 5.0 would never come then that is a different story.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

wase4711 said:
good points; I guess since the "promise" of official Samsung lolli has been out there for so long, the folks who want an official Samsung 5.0 are holding out for it; you never know if a "ported" version will have all the features that the Samsung die hard fans want in their Samsung roms, so that might be part of it..
its gotta show up soon, and its insulting to the folks who own the top Samsung phone on the market that they aren't/weren't the first ones to get this on their note 4's..
Its blunders like this that will eventually cost Samsung their leadership in the cell phone world, if it hasn't already..
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I agree it is an insult to Samsung fans to neglect your customers like that.

wase4711 said:
good points; I guess since the "promise" of official Samsung lolli has been out there for so long, the folks who want an official Samsung 5.0 are holding out for it; you never know if a "ported" version will have all the features that the Samsung die hard fans want in their Samsung roms, so that might be part of it..
its gotta show up soon, and its insulting to the folks who own the top Samsung phone on the market that they aren't/weren't the first ones to get this on their note 4's..
Its blunders like this that will eventually cost Samsung their leadership in the cell phone world, if it hasn't already..
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BACARDILIMON said:
Most people will just wait. Porting over a waste of time for devs. Now if they knew 5.0 would never come then that is a different story.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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But we never really know when it will be here, it could be November. The sad fact is the Note 5 may be out by the time Samsung gets it done, and the carriers finish adding bloat, and finally decide its time to release it. Even if you are just waiting for the international version to release, we have no clue when that may be.

therealjwkware said:
But we never really know when it will be here, it could be November. The sad fact is the Note 5 may be out by the time Samsung gets it done, and the carriers finish adding bloat, and finally decide its time to release it. Even if you are just waiting for the international version to release, we have no clue when that may be.
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Blame TMOBILE lol. They can push Samsung in getting it done. Then Samsung will say we done tomible has it lol. Either way. I feel bad for all those waiting daily for it to drop. I for one will stay with nk4. Lollipop will not offer me much from what I can see so far.
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BACARDILIMON said:
Blame TMOBILE lol. They can push Samsung in getting it done. Then Samsung will say we done tomible has it lol. Either way. I feel bad for all those waiting daily for it to drop. I for one will stay with nk4. Lollipop will not offer me much from what I can see so far.
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I get that, but can you honestly say if the ROM was available you wouldn't flash it and try it out giddily?

therealjwkware said:
I get that, but can you honestly say if the ROM was available you wouldn't flash it and try it out giddily?
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Honestly I would not flash it. Not a fan of the look and the pull down menu. I actually like stock for this phone. Tried flashing most that are here and always found my way back to stock deodex.
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BACARDILIMON said:
Honestly I would not flash it. Not a fan of the look and the pull down menu. I actually like stock for this phone. Tried flashing most that are here and always found my way back to stock deodex.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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Idk, but being the tinkerer you are, like me, I can't see you passing up the ROM, at least to try it.

Lollipop Rom
It's funny that we don't have a port for the Note 4 and over at the Note 3 forum section
They have a Note 4 port!!! Note 4!!! For the Note 3!?!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-tw-note-4-port-5-0-1-darklord-rom-1-t3017604
I know its coming but I do want a tw lollipop that runs well every other aosp ROM gets my phone really hot and I hate that although I appreciate the work the devs do porting them.

babyboy8100 said:
It's funny that we don't have a port for the Note 4 and over at the Note 3 forum section
They have a Note 4 port!!! Note 4!!! For the Note 3!?!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-tw-note-4-port-5-0-1-darklord-rom-1-t3017604
I know its coming but I do want a tw lollipop that runs well every other aosp ROM gets my phone really hot and I hate that although I appreciate the work the devs do porting them.
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Yeah this is pretty crazy how Ironic it must be nice.I just hope when we get it for the note 4 it was worth the wait.
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The reason that nothing has been ported to this device is we need the kernel gods to do their thing. Any day now. Kernel is the issue for us right now.

Roll out of Lollipop for 910U (And a few others)

Thank you Samsung for letting down the 910U. There are absolutely no excuses to take so much time to update all variants. Too many variants and inability to maintain them... Never expected releases to come as fast as on my Nexus 5, but that bad is really a shame (Other manufacturers have already updated their flagships)
With all these different models of the same phone, Samsung has managed to create an extra fragmentation level of the already fragmented Android. Amazing.
And I don't want to hear that is maybe because we'll get a newer version than 5.0.1 or an improved Touchwiz (Like was speculated as an explanation for the very slow initial rollout of Lollipop). Most likely well get finally 5.0.1 when everybody will be on 5.1
I came back to Samsung after a few years (My last one was a Tab 7.7). Definitely amazing hardware each band every time. The software side (incl speed of new releases) is still a shame.
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Have to agree on the hardware front. Amazing, sleek and sexy. For the OS part though it's definitely a let down. I wish they would just apk all of their bloat and just let us use it on any non tw OS. No hidden or private api baked into a slow ui. My sister is running a S4 and laughing because she has LP and I can't even get it. Hell it's not even announced for my version.

i speak for 910G users and its a pathetic logic for 910G as well..... 910F got the update so why dint the 910G......it will be good if samsung can get their **** together and concentrate on a single processor and give its users what they pay for

I wonder if they limit variations because there's not any more letter in alphabet or what?

Er. Aditya said:
i speak for 910G users and its a pathetic logic for 910G as well..... 910F got the update so why dint the 910G......it will be good if samsung can get their **** together and concentrate on a single processor and give its users what they pay for
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pretty crap when the F and G use the same hardware but different bootloader and modems - would have taken very little time to get a global release for the two models at the same time.

Calm Down untill the Final Release
SM-N910C user here, I feel your pain But you guys should not forget that the Lollipop releases for Note 4 are not final , are more like test builds thats why it is not availble outside of the world except Poland. In essence , more than 90% of Note 4 users didn't receive Lollipop. I have installed Lollipop and I am pretty confident that it needs some tuning and fixing before the worlwide roll out so hopefuly every use gets straight the Final build in some weeks time and not a test build like some lucky N910C-F users!
The Real let down would be in the case where the Final Worlwide release is ready for some variants and not for everyone or the others who didn't receive the final update and receive a test build like now Here there is no space for excuses

Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.

rj3005 said:
Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Thank you too rj3005. Now you (unwittingly) bring a bit more to this thread. I wasn't even complaining yet, but indeed, contrary to the Nexus Series (I own a 5 and a 7) the Samsung version of Lollipop is indeed not so much of a change compared with KitKat. Less material design, still lags here and there (I honestly don't know since I unfortunately still do not have an update for my 910U............). Samsung has amazing hardware (And that s why I picked the Note 4) but Software wise.... Honestly....
Anyway let s hope the S6 brings finally a decent Touchwiz we may all benefit from..
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Alcibiade said:
Thank you too rj3005. Now you (unwittingly) bring a bit more to this thread. I wasn't even complaining yet, but indeed, contrary to the Nexus Series (I own a 5 and a 7) the Samsung version of Lollipop is indeed not so much of a change compared with KitKat. Less material design, still lags here and there (I honestly don't know since I unfortunately still do not have an update for my 910U............). Samsung has amazing hardware (And that s why I picked the Note 4) but Software wise.... Honestly....
Anyway let s hope the S6 brings finally a decent Touchwiz we may all benefit from..
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We can only hope to receive the so called "revamped" touchwiz from the S6 on the note 4

rj3005 said:
Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Its not about getting life or what, but put urself on our shoes. What would u feel if everyone's got the lollipop amd u were left alone not having it? Good or bad is another matter. Being up to date is what xda is all about. At least that is why i joined xda.

I am totally with you, i know samsung for long time, and i know that they will not release the 5.1 for the 910u version because we didn't get the 5.0.1. in fact, we will get the 5.0.1 when the C gets close to the 5.1 . i am not mad or saying this because i hate samsung, i replied to tell you again Don't give your hopes on samsung to give you something that you want. I can tell from now that we can get the 5.0.1 version in 15 days from now, but without any change of the C version and maybe more buggy than it .

Ashatar said:
We can only hope to receive the so called "revamped" touchwiz from the S6 on the note 4
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I do hope indeed...
Again the hardware on Note 4 is amazing (That's why I bought it over the Nexus 6). Hopefully Samsung will get its act together and deliver decent software (from an AOSP perspective) KINF OF on time....
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I agree i purchased the 910U over the 910G in australia and now i wished i got the C. Im sure when lollipop comes finally for the U porting C roms will become the norm and we'll keep up to date. God knows as well as us that samsung wont keep up..

I live in HK where U is the default model.
Weeks are passing... Still no sign. This is really not serious for a phone that's less than 6 months old.

Yep its a big fkn joke.

You should try being in Canada with a W8 model
The W8 model of of the note series is always the last to be updated let's just hope we get a fixed version.

Phone runs fine without Lollipop. If you read about how many are switching back from Lollipop, not in any hurry to get it myself.

Yes I switched back. You're missing nothing yet people. To me it really felt like a beta, battery drain, needs refining. I can deffo see the potential, its noticeably snappier when it's working right
And why oh why do people keep contributing to what they call whiney threads?! And whining themselves about them! Nothing wrong with whining every now and again, should people on forums all be constantly happy? Is it written in the rules?
Please of please skip the thread of it upsets you so much! Ffs!

I too am upset and want to wine, getting really impatient
I have the 910U From new Zealand on Spark network...

lawtq said:
Yes I switched back. You're missing nothing yet people. To me it really felt like a beta, battery drain, needs refining. I can deffo see the potential, its noticeably snappier when it's working right
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To be fair the issues encountered with the first versions of Lollipop should be put to the credit of Google. On that they screwed up massively and even the Nexus line suffers from it (I also have a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7). It's hard to blame the phone makers on this.
Nevertheless time passes by, most of flagships have been updated to Lollipop and... quite a number of Note 4 haven't. Samsung weakness on the software side is blatant (while they indeed design excellent hardware, the Note 4 and the S 6 are very good example of this)
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5.1.1 by end of July according to Sammobile.com

Just saw this: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/01/exclusive-samsung-to-start-rolling-out-android-5-1-1-lollipop-update-to-galaxy-note-4-by-the-end-of-july/
"Google revealed the developer preview of the next big version of its mobile device operating system – Android M – last week during Google I/O 2015, and the release of its final version is due in Q3 2015. Now, you must be thinking if Samsung is too slow in updating its existing smartphones and tablets to the latest version of Android.
Samsung has already improved its software update game starting this year, and it has already rolled out Lollipop update many existing devices. Now, Samsung is already testing beta versions of Android 5.1.1-based ROMs for various existing devices, and we’ve already shown you the upgraded camera app for the Galaxy S6 and the S6 edge that will be released with Android 5.1.1 update for the devices.
Many Galaxy Note 4 users are impatiently waiting for Samsung to release Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update for the device. Well, here’s some good news for those guys. According to our highly placed sources, Samsung is planning to release Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update to the Galaxy Note 4 by the end of July. As usual, we will be the first ones to show you the upcoming ROM running on the actual device."
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5.1.1 was released on april 9 so this is somewhat fast considering that.
but never trust samsung and their time lines.

ravijani said:
5.1.1 was released on april 9 so this is somewhat fast considering that.
but never trust samsung and their time lines.
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Sammobile are usually pretty spot on, especially when it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder.

v5.1.1 is FINAL version of Lollipop - no memory management problems

Toss3 said:
Sammobile are usually pretty spot on, especially when it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder.
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how do u know it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder??????????

ravijani said:
how do u know it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder??????????
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"According to our highly placed sources..." (sammobile.com, 2015)
Says so right there. :good:

Good news

Do you also read that the new camera app will come to note 4 aswell?

I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:

very keen to see that!

Chad_Petree said:
I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:
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as an s6 edge user with note 4 i can say. new touchwiz is mostly same with what you are using on your note 4 with lollipop. but 1 exception performance of s6 is just sucks. insane ram usage, lags everywhere, crash etc. and people call it, its best touchwiz performance its basically a lie. its 1 of worst experiences i have ever had with an flagship device.
camera app just has different design capabilities are same pro mode is basically there for note 4 too.
only themes missing. others basically same.

tmac31 said:
as an s6 edge user with note 4 i can say. new touchwiz is mostly same with what you are using on your note 4 with lollipop. but 1 exception performance of s6 is just sucks. insane ram usage, lags everywhere, crash etc. and people call it, its best touchwiz performance its basically a lie. its 1 of worst experiences i have ever had with an flagship device.
camera app just has different design capabilities are same pro mode is basically there for note 4 too.
only themes missing. others basically same.
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Honestly I'm just hoping that the Note 5 is going to come with Android M out of the box at this point, because it truly makes a difference; in comparison to lollipop (5.1.1) on my Nexus 5 it's like night and day. Really fantastic update from google this time around.

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Honestly I'm just hoping that the Note 5 is going to come with Android M out of the box at this point, because it truly makes a difference; in comparison to lollipop (5.1.1) on my Nexus 5 it's like night and day. Really fantastic update from google this time around.
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i still didnt update my old nexus 5. ill try if its that different. i doubt note 5 will have android m out of the box. probably same thing will happen with note 4 and android m will release after note 5. hope it will be perfect on its release time unlike lollipop this year. 5.1.1 should have released as 5.0 last year so all companies could have done the updates fast and perfect.

Chad_Petree said:
I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:
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I'm pretty sure that we'll get none of the features you mentioned.

I hope it is not another firmware number change & new theme to be used like the Lollipop 5.0.1
We need full active Lollipop the latest change in toggle, the new camera API 2 with RAW support & the new themes with other Galaxy S6 & Lollipop improvements.
not to forget battery life fix & RAM high usage.
for 32 bit or 64 bit matter I hope they activate 64 bit ability in Exynos version …………… that will be awesome.

Sadly, this update doesn't come with Camera 2 Api or S6 features. Just under the hood updates (memory bug fixes, etc).

galaxynote2 said:
Sadly, this update doesn't come with Camera 2 Api or S6 features. Just under the hood updates (memory bug fixes, etc).
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How do you know ? I think IF they're ever going to release camera 2 for the Note 4, they're going to do it with 5.1.1 release
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BTW I honestly feel the 5.1.1 update wasnt all that interesting (the CM users have been on it a while). The Nexus users reported some performance improvements but these were mainly due to kernel changes. So if Samsung did some good work there, it might be interesting. Otherwise, the 5.1.1. update is going to be quite a non event in my opinion.

I hope they include themes. As somebody on a non bootable US Carrier version, themes would at least allow me to stop looking at the same damn icons I've had on every Samsung device I've had over the last 5 years!

bbeelzebub said:
I hope they include themes. As somebody on a non bootable US Carrier version, themes would at least allow me to stop looking at the same damn icons I've had on every Samsung device I've had over the last 5 years!
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You don't like nova or action etc launchers?
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Change ur launcher. Solve the problem
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Samsung , unfortiunatly you are doing what Sony did...

Hi everybody
another bad news :http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/16...ont-ever-get-most-of-the-galaxy-s6s-features/
as you can see on my signature , i was fan of sony , me and so many other people boycotted sony because of its bad support and its lies ...
i switched to note 3 , mmmm i should say that was good , very goon in compare of sony products . after that i decided to upgrade to note 4 . unfortunately , those days , samsung's policy is confusing me :http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/shealths-spo2-stress-level-removed-t3157312
i donno why Samsung want to give its technology with dropper ! no theme store , no 64 bit unlock , this country have shealth option and another counter shouldn't have , no new touchwiz ... and as you can hear these days , the 5.1.1 update on note 4 will be the same as 5.0.1 on my high end phone ... it seems samsung don't care about users requests. do u think its hard for samsung to port the new touchwiz on note 4 ? or its impossible to open the theme store for note 4 ?
this kind of attitude remind me what sony said on xperia mini pro ( the hardware can't support multitouch ==> but a developer did ) and on xperia play ( is not compatible with android 4.0 m the drive problem ==> but a developer solved )
you know , i don't like apple phones , but when people talking about apple product support , i want to respect them and say OSSSSSS...,
yeah , the samsung's policy is not user friendly and i can see the they are losing their customer ! I hate the DROPPER policy ...

Agree agree Samsung forgot everything about note 4 they don't care about us , the only thing they care is about money when they lunch there product they like uuu we have the best of the best this device can this and that and bla bla and after a few weeks they **** on our faces and make a note 5 that can do everything and have the latest update .
So take it as a Samsung user from s4 n2 n3 N4 do never ever buy this broken phone again I swear I've used so many time trying to flash and reflash wipe installing fixing it like a disses so promise me do never buy Samsung broken phone this N4 is my last note 4 , I'm going for nexus series next buy p3obly when I've paid this broken phone
They promise and promise and nothing happens

so true, Note 4 is a lovely device. Samsung is ruining it. I am going for a iPhone or a nexus next time. I wish Note 5 sales cripple so that they get the message. After being with Samsung for more than 5 years starting with Galaxy S I9000, Note 4 is my last

This is my last samsung device, only motorola/nexus or iphone for upgrades.

If it is about hardware limitation I can understand that .
But to port most of the new S6 stuff to Note 4 by developers from xda ........... that is something unacceptable from Samsung.
They should learn from Apple .... nearly all the new software features in the new iPhone will be available in the previous iPhones , and they are really selling very well.
Why they think if they make S6 software stuff available in Note 4, no one will buy S6 or Note 5 ??????
Any way my Note 4 still with 4.4.4 & because Samsung doesn't provide any new features I don't trust their updates & I believe they send updates to make more lag so you buy newer hardware.
I feel Samsung is selling us Smart feature phones with TouchWize where there is no ability to update or develop.

The update policy is definitely the biggest perversion in the smartphone business!

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If it is about hardware limitation I can understand that .
But to port most of the new S6 stuff to Note 4 by developers from xda ........... that is something unacceptable from Samsung.
They should learn from Apple .... nearly all the new software features in the new iPhone will be available in the previous iPhones , and they are really selling very well.
Why they think if they make S6 software stuff available in Note 4, no one will buy S6 or Note 5 ??????
Any way my Note 4 still with 4.4.4 & because Samsung doesn't provide any new features I don't trust their updates & I believe they send updates to make more lag so you buy newer hardware.
I feel Samsung is selling us Smart feature phones with TouchWize where there is no ability to update or develop.
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i always wondered does any person switch from an older phone to new cuz of gimmicks but this thread definetly shows people are so desperate for stuff they dont even care they just want new stuff whatever samsung will keep doing this as long as people carry on crying about useless stuff.
and samsung is a bad company on customer satisfaction and it havent change for years i just wonder what did you expect while you were buying a samsung device.
and crying for s6 stuff is so fail which s6 tw just sucks. i hope they wont bring it to note 4, i dont wanna use a unstable device with worst multitaskinf experience ive ever had.
ps:5.0.1 update is better than 4.4.4 you can definetly see whenever you put them side by side

tmac31 said:
i always wondered does any person switch from an older phone to new cuz of gimmicks but this thread definetly shows people are so desperate for stuff they dont even care they just want new stuff whatever samsung will keep doing this as long as people carry on crying about useless stuff.
and samsung is a bad company on customer satisfaction and it havent change for years i just wonder what did you expect while you were buying a samsung device.
and crying for s6 stuff is so fail which s6 tw just sucks. i hope they wont bring it to note 4, i dont wanna use a unstable device with worst multitaskinf experience ive ever had.
ps:5.0.1 update is better than 4.4.4 you can definetly see whenever you put them side by side
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I bought note 3 , note 4 for spen feature that is necessary for my job , as i said , the note 3 support was better and that was the reason to upgrade to note 4 (( i gave note 3 to my wife )) . further to the mentioned problems , i had so many driver fault on my phone till previous week ! my phone is exynos version and has so many GPU driver bug ... on previous week , i had to change my krenel again and finally googy kernel helped me.
i hard for me to say , but i think to say goodbye to samsung..

madushan92 said:
so true, Note 4 is a lovely device. Samsung is ruining it. I am going for a iPhone or a nexus next time. I wish Note 5 sales cripple so that they get the message. After being with Samsung for more than 5 years starting with Galaxy S I9000, Note 4 is my last
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An iPhone??? Seriously?
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This is my last samsung device, only motorola/nexus or iphone for upgrades.
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And you too?

I've happily owned the note, note 2 (twice), 3 (OnePlus One and then nexus 5) then note 4 (easily the best phone I've owned and current). This is my last Samsung though.
I'm looking forward to the Oneplus 2. Without removable battery and sd card slot, there is just no point in buying a note 5 (unless you are desperate for the s pen - which I use once or twice a week so I'm not!) and spending more than twice on a comparable sized device.
The OPO was awesome, but at the time screen sensitivity was poor until fixed by a release - of which they are so much quicker than Samsung have ever been!
Sammy is going down the swanny.:crying:

I think XDA members are never happy with any phone and never will. No 64bit? WOW what a huge difference.. really? No themes, omg lets buy an iphone. This logic is driving me crazy

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i always wondered does any person switch from an older phone to new cuz of gimmicks but this thread definetly shows people are so desperate for stuff they dont even care they just want new stuff whatever samsung will keep doing this as long as people carry on crying about useless stuff.
and samsung is a bad company on customer satisfaction and it havent change for years i just wonder what did you expect while you were buying a samsung device.
and crying for s6 stuff is so fail which s6 tw just sucks. i hope they wont bring it to note 4, i dont wanna use a unstable device with worst multitaskinf experience ive ever had.
ps:5.0.1 update is better than 4.4.4 you can definetly see whenever you put them side by side
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I think XDA members are never happy with any phone and never will. No 64bit? WOW what a huge difference.. really? No themes, omg lets buy an iphone. This logic is driving me crazy
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the main logic in 2015 to keep customer is customer support . the people pay money and want best support , surely if something make them unhappy , they will think on change their next upgrade ... yes , its true about the technology market !

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I bought note 3 , note 4 for spen feature that is necessary for my job , as i said , the note 3 support was better and that was the reason to upgrade to note 4 (( i gave note 3 to my wife )) . further to the mentioned problems , i had so many driver fault on my phone till previous week ! my phone is exynos version and has so many GPU driver bug ... on previous week , i had to change my krenel again and finally googy kernel helped me.
i hard for me to say , but i think to say goodbye to samsung..
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note 3 support was better seriously? its still using a very bad software. while i was using note 3 i decided that it will be my last samsung device but after note 4 came out i tested new software and i was satisfied about it and except call screen delay and gpu bug they made really a better software on lollipop way smoother and stable for me compared to kitkat. since i dont have any game on my phone gpu bug doesnt bother me aswell.
you can think whatever you want but trust me note 4 lollipop is way better than s6 s. i never use my s6 edge terrible battery life and worst multitasking experience ever i just think people have no idea about what they want, they just read tw is debloated and its fast and" we should get it omg they are threating us bad etc" its just marketing stuff. lol technology sites even published you can disable or delete useless stuff on s6 and note 4 users were still crying that we need it too and it was just possible on note 4 too.
well dont buy samsung again i really dont care about it but s6 doesnt really use a faster software dont get fooled by fake news. if you arent happy with note 4 its allright grab another phone. but just dont think everything besides your phone is awesome im having too many problems on my 6 plus too. if you can find the perfect phone in future pm me too ill grab it definetly. but until then im pretty sure ill skip note 5 and keep note 4.

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And you too?
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Yep, an iphone.
Why? Because they upgrade their devices to the latest version quickly.
The note 4 is so expensive and now is abandoned by samsung.

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Why? Because they upgrade their devices to the latest version quickly.
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LOL, so you will rather get updates quickly that are already lackluster and 4-5 years after the competition?
What's the point on just having the latest OS version on your phone when that latest version of iOS doesn't bring you anything that the other OS'es doesn't already have had for many years?
That's like saying that you care more about having a higher version number on iOS over what features and stuffs you get. Which in my opinion is stupid.
How many years did it take Apple to get 3rd party keyboards to iOS and how many more years will it takes Apple to get a theme store like every other Android OEMs have now?
Another 5-6 years to get a theme store?
Yeah you get my point.
But you are on XDA-Developers, which also means that if you are getting tired of waiting for Samsung or whoever that makes an Android phone to bring you a new Android version or any fixes, then you have the awesome freedom to fix that yourself here. With iOS, you have to wait for Apple to tell you when you can update your device and how you can use it and so on.
Here you can rather find developers that will fix all of your problems before Samsung or any of the other OEMs would put out any of those fixes themself. And just to take an example on what i'm talking about here. Samsung have said that the Note 4 wont get any of the S6's features and the new S6 TouchWiz UI. But the cool thing here is that someone have ported the S6 Edge ROM to the Note 4 where we have the newest TouchWiz UI and stuffs. The ROMs aren't posted about here on XDA-Developers, so you have to find them yourself.
Here we have the freedom to choose what WE as users of a product want. With iOS, you have to wait for Apple to tell you when you can update your device and how you can use your device after how Apple want's it to be.
EDIT: Samsung haven't abandoned the Note 4 at all. We will get Android M around March-April next year where we will get a new and refreshed TouchWiz UI and many of the features the Note 5 gets anyways.

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Yep, an iphone.
Why? Because they upgrade their devices to the latest version quickly.
The note 4 is so expensive and now is abandoned by samsung.
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Well if that's your only criteria then it's the perfect phone for you.
I guess you are not interested in customising your phone, taking full control over the operating system, file management, mods, or choice of phone. I am also guessing you enjoy being dictated to by what Apple says you can and can't do with your phone or install on your phone.
If you're happy with that then buy an iphone. You will probably have no further need for the XDA community either.
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Does anybody think we'll get at least the new apps(like the gallery and dialer, I really hate our Stock dialer. )?

To me it seems Samsung has wrote off the Note 4, it's hardly had any support since it launched last year, I've now sold mine and gone back to my trusty Nexus 5 which even after nearly 2 years is still great.
I won't be buying the Note 5 or any other Samsung phones from now on, because 6 months down the line the Note 5 will be forgotten in favor of the S7.
I've also recently picked up a cheap Nokia 735, for use with Windows 10 for when it launches in a couple of months, currently testing the preview build of Windows 10 atm on it & it's shaping up to be a very decent OS.
If the apps situation improves with Windows 10 ie ports from both Android & iOS then I may consider switching fully to Windows in the future.
But for the time being at least my next smartphone will be another Nexus device.

tmac31 said:
i always wondered does any person switch from an older phone to new cuz of gimmicks but this thread definetly shows people are so desperate for stuff they dont even care they just want new stuff whatever samsung will keep doing this as long as people carry on crying about useless stuff.
and samsung is a bad company on customer satisfaction and it havent change for years i just wonder what did you expect while you were buying a samsung device.
and crying for s6 stuff is so fail which s6 tw just sucks. i hope they wont bring it to note 4, i dont wanna use a unstable device with worst multitaskinf experience ive ever had.
ps:5.0.1 update is better than 4.4.4 you can definetly see whenever you put them side by side
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I agree.
Look, at the end of the day there is NOTHING that says Samsung MUST give us new features, when you bought the phone you knew what you were getting, and crying about Samsung not bringing S6 features is laughable, you sound like someone who invested in shares of a company and got mad when they didn't make any profit, that is the risk. When it comes to buying a new gadget you must be happy with what it brings from Day 1.
The mere fact that we even get frequent updates makes us lucky.
If you were complaining about FW Bugs, and features being ruined e.g. GPU being made worse due to a FW Update, then THAT would be understandable as they are not delivering what they promised when you bought the device the GPU was fine.

tmac31 said:
note 3 support was better seriously? its still using a very bad software. while i was using note 3 i decided that it will be my last samsung device but after note 4 came out i tested new software and i was satisfied about it and except call screen delay and gpu bug they made really a better software on lollipop way smoother and stable for me compared to kitkat. since i dont have any game on my phone gpu bug doesnt bother me aswell.
you can think whatever you want but trust me note 4 lollipop is way better than s6 s. i never use my s6 edge terrible battery life and worst multitasking experience ever i just think people have no idea about what they want, they just read tw is debloated and its fast and" we should get it omg they are threating us bad etc" its just marketing stuff. lol technology sites even published you can disable or delete useless stuff on s6 and note 4 users were still crying that we need it too and it was just possible on note 4 too.
well dont buy samsung again i really dont care about it but s6 doesnt really use a faster software dont get fooled by fake news. if you arent happy with note 4 its allright grab another phone. but just dont think everything besides your phone is awesome im having too many problems on my 6 plus too. if you can find the perfect phone in future pm me too ill grab it definetly. but until then im pretty sure ill skip note 5 and keep note 4.
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I never liked Galaxy S series man , my only reason to use samsung - mobile is note - series . anyway , that u for sharing your experience

[Discussion] Android Marshmallow for Note 4

As we all know, Android Marshmallow will surely be on our great device, the Note 4. Leaked news say that Note 4 users will start receiving the update in February. Galaxy S6 and its brother Edge will be getting it on January, while the Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus will get it this December. According to these news, the new update will have a new TouchWiz. You can see that it is flat and more Material Design. As we all heard (or some of us), that Google is helping Samsung to create a new TouchWiz that will be so light and so materialistic, which as we can see in the link that it is really more beautiful and looks neater than the older versions. Now, will this new TouchWiz be on our Note 4? I believe it will. I know that the TouchWiz on the Note 5 isn't there for Note 4, but I believe Samsung did that to boost the sales of their Note 5 as it got a lot of bad reviews. Now that a lot of people have bought the Note 5, I think we will get this new TouchWiz along the update Android Marshmallow, or Samsung might even decide to keep their boost for the Note 5 and S7, and release the new TouchWiz for the Note 4 in Android 6.1 (maybe?).
What do you think?

Kazzko said:
As we all know, Android Marshmallow will surely be on our great device, the Note 4. Leaked news say that Note 4 users will start receiving the update in February. Galaxy S6 and its brother Edge will be getting it on January, while the Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus will get it this December. According to these news, the new update will have a new TouchWiz. You can see that it is flat and more Material Design. As we all heard (or some of us), that Google is helping Samsung to create a new TouchWiz that will be so light and so materialistic, which as we can see in the link that it is really more beautiful and looks neater than the older versions. Now, will this new TouchWiz be on our Note 4? I believe it will. I know that the TouchWiz on the Note 5 isn't there for Note 4, but I believe Samsung did that to boost the sales of their Note 5 as it got a lot of bad reviews. Now that a lot of people have bought the Note 5, I think we will get this new TouchWiz along the update Android Marshmallow, or Samsung might even decide to keep their boost for the Note 5 and S7, and release the new TouchWiz for the Note 4 in Android 6.1 (maybe?).
What do you think?
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I dont think so we will get the new theme engine.
we could get an improved touchwhiz.
but in 2016 i'll get a note 6.
used all notes from 2 to 4
but due to lack of expandable storage. I'll be skipping note 5. But thanks to rumours. I'm quite positive that it will make a comeback (fingers crossed)

The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.

Shane_Picardo said:
The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.
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This isn't the last list, it will keep updating. Samsung is really good in making phones but they really suck at software... I am close to ditching it, but I got my Note 4 in September which is most likely for me switch to Nexus phones (or even iOS) in the next few years. Though, hopefully Samsung will enhance due to the next few years...

Kazzko said:
This isn't the last list, it will keep updating. Samsung is really good in making phones but they really suck at software... I am close to ditching it, but I got my Note 4 in September which is most likely for me switch to Nexus phones (or even iOS) in the next few years. Though, hopefully Samsung will enhance due to the next few years...
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Hmmm your right, but what I ment to say was looking at note 3's disapproval for android 6.0, note 4 too may not get android 7.0 when it will be released in the future 1 or 2 years from now.

Shane_Picardo said:
Hmmm your right, but what I ment to say was looking at note 3's disapproval for android 6.0, note 4 too may not get android 7.0 when it will be released in the future 1 or 2 years from now.
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At that moment independent developers will come to the rescue (hopefully)

sushant1thakran said:
At that moment independent developers will come to the rescue (hopefully)
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Hehe... yea bro! hopefully they would. But sammy has already heading towards 64 bit OS. The exynos note 4 supports 64 bit libs but our snapdragon phone doesn't.

64bit would help our device alot but it won't happen.. 6.1 should probably be our final build but im on cm so ima stay with the note 4

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The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.
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I don't buy android tab or smartphone cause that is the major problem updates are always comes with new smartphones.

Ausboy 2011 said:
64bit would help our device alot but it won't happen.. 6.1 should probably be our final build but im on cm so ima stay with the note 4
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Hmmm... choice also matters bro. Those who love pure android experience and want latest android versions prefer CM. But as for me, having the latest android version doesn't matter much for me as I love the stock firmware coz there are so many extra options & features that I may not find it on CM. (Not to forget the s-pen features too). Also rooting & installing touchwiz based kernels & roms is like extra icing on the cake! ^_^

Is any news about marshmallow update? Are those release dates official?

hmmm i don't think that the note 4 will have the new touchwiz in near update but i think that it can be ported to our device buy our extremely talented devs.

Basheer33 said:
hmmm i don't think that the note 4 will have the new touchwiz in near update but i think that it can be ported to our device buy our extremely talented devs.
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Of course it won't, it's going to be the story of S3 and we'll also get it badly optimized, but things will be fixed and ported by someone here, as always.

Now we are with Android 5.1.1 BUT still with the old TouchWize UI except some few visual changes here or their !!!
Samsung policy is always like this .... the older generation get nothing new until the Note 4 is dead officially & removed from Samsung lists.
I sold my Note 4 few months back & I got iPhone 6s (such a cool smartphone), then I decide to buy another Note 4 because of the Stylus I really like to play with it, so I'm keeping mt Note 4 as second phone for my other sim.
accept it like it is, update stuff is not for Samsung or Note 4 enjoy like this way.
if you need fast updates get iPhone (I really recommend it) or Nexus phone, also HTC & LG providing faster updates.

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...get iPhone (I really recommend it)
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..........emmm.....
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Yeah.... :/

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Yes man, iPhone providing smooth & easy way for dealing with stuff, & old iPhones get the new OS even before releasing the new iPhone.
Apps quality are also better in iOS.
in short ...in spite of my short experience with Apple & iOS but believe me iPhone does provide user experience that I can't live without it.
and if Apple will one day provide iPhone with stylus, a Samsung Note like, so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.

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so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.
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Only those who bought the Note for the Stylus

one-option said:
Yes man, iPhone providing smooth & easy way for dealing with stuff, & old iPhones get the new OS even before releasing the new iPhone.
Apps quality are also better in iOS.
in short ...in spite of my short experience with Apple & iOS but believe me iPhone does provide user experience that I can't live without it.
and if Apple will one day provide iPhone with stylus, a Samsung Note like, so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.
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Of topic?
This threat is for note 4 marshmallow update.

From wat i saw in both s5 and note 4 neither s5 nor note 4 will have the new touchwiz , u already mentioned the reason cuz both note 4 and note5 are too close in terms of hardware so as usual Samsung decided to go against it's habit and decided not to port the new touchwiZ to note 4 Just to make sure that note5 sales are doing well , and about 6.1 update for note 4 I doubt it will have it I think android 6.0 is going to the last update for note 4 same as note3 that didn't get android 5.1.1 and left with buggy android 5.0 unfortionatly This is Samsung THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY and ptl dont say That every manfacturer does because they don't do it in Samsung way, anyway I am waiting for the update and if leaks were true that it won't have The latest touchwiz as Samsung used to do with previous notes I will move to another brand mostly the next nexus.