[Q] USB Host for USB Audio - HTC Desire 510

Does the HTC Desire 510 have a usb host mode? Virgin Mobile version if it matters. I've been getting conflicting reports ; gsmarena has a small remark in their review that it has usb otg and usb host, but it's not listed as having it in the specs on htc's site.
If it does have usb host is it possible a usb audio device such as a fiio E07K? Trying to find a cheapish but good sounding setup to replace my busted up mp3 player.

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XDA USB INTERFACE

hello im working on a htc wallaby usb interface. but i have stumbeld across the problem that the htc wallaby is only a slave interface and therefore cannot use usb devices as they are also slave. how can i make the xda a host device? thankyou.
Raptor,
Read MSDN USB site about USB and the need for a Host Controller in order to host USB peripherals. They recognize that wince/pocketpc should have hosting functionality but they haven't got there yet, therefore all wince devices have to be treated as peripherals for now, which means for now you can only run as slave. If you need to drive a usb peripheral from your wince device an option is to add an SDIO pcmcia USB connector and write USB drivers through it. A forum on ExpertsExchange talks about these add-ons. I can;t imagine this is the solution you're looking for though.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...html/wceddkUSB_Driver_Interface_Functions.asp

SDIO USB Host

hi i was wondering if anyone out there new if there was an SDIO USB HOST card, similar to the shown on the link below (but obviously SD not CF)
http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html
if not, does anyone know/have tried the above CF to USB Host with a standard usb webcam and got it to work? if so can you explain how i go about setting it up.
thanks
smigger666
i'd suspect that the fact that usb to host have to supply 5volt with 0.5mA
it could be an issue for something as thin as an sdcard
also not sure if the sdio interface even operate at 5v
usb host
I haven't seen an sdio to usb card, but I use my "htc universal" with it's mini usb as a usb 1.1 host. It works ok but you have to supply external power.
if you have that working you are the first and only person i know of who gotten any htc device act as usb host
sure there were rumors that it would do host
but later on ppl retracted those claims
After wiring up a cable for that, how do you set the phone to 'host mode'?
Thanks
usb host is not a mode
your pc is in host mode always
as are the 2 htc devices which do support
usb host out of the box
is a device is connected and the driver
is present the device works
Nope, USB host is a mode. It's the whole Master / Slave affair. Granted, it's automatic for most devices when another is connected... ah... that ought to answer my question I guess.

N1 on TV by HDMI cable

It is possible to use this cable to show NexusOne screen on TV?
Samsung Cable
It's similar to HTC's micro usb to hdmi cable for the incredible.
It won't work by just plugging it in but I don't see why it couldn't be made to work once we get the Galaxy S source/kernel/rom
behelit said:
.. but I don't see why it couldn't be made to work once we get the Galaxy S source/kernel/rom
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It won't work, because there is no HW to support it. If there was - Desire and Evo would be sold with video out option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738754
[edit] For a full-scale USB2HDMI dongle support - there needs to be USB OTG support in the kernel, and it's not there yet. For HDMI out over USB you need HW in the phone, which isn't there. And the third option is a device which is USB master and needs a driver in the phone - I don't think this or Incredible's cable is such device.

[Q] USB Audio (car usb connector)

I've been searching for a while to solve this.
I'd like to connect my HTC one to my car usb connector.
I've seen several repoirts claiming usb audio works, connecting dac's etcetra.
I know I can connect usb drives with a micro-usb to usb connector, tried it and this works.
But I have also seen people saying you need an USB OTG cable for this, so what is it?
I've already connected my One via the micros-usb to usb cable to my car but I do net get audio via the usb on my car equipment.
So again the question, is audio out available on the htc one (and on other android phones) with the stock rom.
Some of the report where talking about CM roms, I do use the elegancia one but I have no intent of switching to CM.
deboopi2 said:
I've been searching for a while to solve this.
I'd like to connect my HTC one to my car usb connector.
I've seen several repoirts claiming usb audio works, connecting dac's etcetra.
I know I can connect usb drives with a micro-usb to usb connector, tried it and this works.
But I have also seen people saying you need an USB OTG cable for this, so what is it?
I've already connected my One via the micros-usb to usb cable to my car but I do net get audio via the usb on my car equipment.
So again the question, is audio out available on the htc one (and on other android phones) with the stock rom.
Some of the report where talking about CM roms, I do use the elegancia one but I have no intent of switching to CM.
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since the HTC One does not automaticly plug as mass storage i guess that the car radio simply does not recognize the phone as a mass storage with music.. an USB OTG cable would "fix" it since it will force the phone to be shown as mass storage.. (its a guessing anyway)
And you have guessed correctly. The USB otg cable works fine.....except it added ringtones et al when you select root folder. Worked ok if I navigated to the music folder (assuming your vehicle has that option).
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
jmitr said:
And you have guessed correctly. The USB otg cable works fine.....except it added ringtones et al when you select root folder. Worked ok if I navigated to the music folder (assuming your vehicle has that option).
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
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Well, for me it does not work.
As I said before I can attach a USB drive to my phone and I can accomplish this by using a micro-usb to usb adapter.
When attaching the drive my phone complains it cannot charge and that I need the standard charger.
But when using a file explorer I can see (read and write) the contents of my usb drive in the storage/usb folder.
I thought this was enough to decide that the converter was OTG but now I'm not so certain about this anymore.
Is every usb to micro usb an OTG or what are the extra requirements?
Anyway I tried again to connect to my car audio and the message I got on the car was
that he could not charge the phone but the phone was as well not recognized as media input.
Because OTG adapters are very cheap I ordered one which explicitly says it is OTG,
I'll see what happens when I can try that one out but in the meantime all comments are welcome.
deboopi2 said:
Well, for me it does not work.
As I said before I can attach a USB drive to my phone and I can accomplish this by using a micro-usb to usb adapter.
When attaching the drive my phone complains it cannot charge and that I need the standard charger.
But when using a file explorer I can see (read and write) the contents of my usb drive in the storage/usb folder.
I thought this was enough to decide that the converter was OTG but now I'm not so certain about this anymore.
Is every usb to micro usb an OTG or what are the extra requirements?
Anyway I tried again to connect to my car audio and the message I got on the car was
that he could not charge the phone but the phone was as well not recognized as media input.
Because OTG adapters are very cheap I ordered one which explicitly says it is OTG,
I'll see what happens when I can try that one out but in the meantime all comments are welcome.
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Yes, the cable I had explicitly said "OTG".
I only experimented with this for fun, my Elantra also supports built in bluetooth (phone controls are on the steering wheel, mic in the roof) so I mainly put my One in my car kit, launch car mode and away I go.
The OTG cable worked well for me when I tried it though. It did NOT work with my Son's Nexus 4 so these things can be finicky.

USB Audio

I'm thinking about using an Amazon Fire 7 inch tablet as a car radio dashboard install, but before I commit to buying one, I can't seem to find any conclusive answers on a few things.
Firstly, does the fire output USB audio so I can use a USB dac?
And if so, is it possible to use a Y split cable for USB audio and charging at the same time?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
kcajjones said:
I'm thinking about using an Amazon Fire 7 inch tablet as a car radio dashboard install, but before I commit to buying one, I can't seem to find any conclusive answers on a few things.
Firstly, does the fire output USB audio so I can use a USB dac?
And if so, is it possible to use a Y split cable for USB audio and charging at the same time?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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I can confidently say this Fire like most other Amazon devices will not support charging while the USB port is being used for any other function. Can't speak to USB audio out (suspect not) as most go with Bluetooth.
Davey126 said:
I can confidently say this Fire like most other Amazon devices will not support charging while the USB port is being used for any other function. Can't speak to USB audio out (suspect not) out as most go with Bluetooth.
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It does seem to be a difficult feature to find on Android tablets.
According to Wikipedia, it's a simple implementation of a USB otg cable that should allow charging on any usb otg device.
USB Otg Wiki
The major problem (presuming the cable does work and usb audio is possible) is that the kernel needs to be able to enable USB otg at the same time as charging.
kcajjones said:
It does seem to be a difficult feature to find on Android tablets.
According to Wikipedia, it's a simple implementation of a USB otg cable that should allow charging on any usb otg device.
USB Otg Wiki
The major problem (presuming the cable does work and usb audio is possible) is that the kernel needs to be able to enable USB otg at the same time as charging.
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Yep. The stock kernel on most consumer devices don't have robust OTG support as the most commonly used gizmo is a flash drive. I was able to get a OTG GPS receiver to work but it wasn't plug-n-play by any means. Charging didn't work in that context...although I didn't fiddle with it much.
I've been working on a kinda similar project, I just haven't had time. I'm trying to use my fire as an octoprint server, which is a program that monitors and controls 3d printers. The problem is that it requires usb to be connected to the printer, while also staying powered on. What I'm going to try is remove the battery, step down 12v from the printer to 3.7v and just hack it onto where the battery would connect to the pcb. I'm not sure what the different pins on the battery connector are though, so I'll have to test those. Otherwise, it should work.

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