I just found this article on Master Herald:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Android 5.0 Update Coming Later Than Planned as Company Readjusts Plans around Gear VR
Initial reports about the Gear VR claimed that Samsung are planning to put a lot of focus on the device, but it wasn’t until recently that the picture started to really clear up. It seems that the company really is moving forward very actively with the Gear VR, but at the same time, sadly, some of their current users will have to suffer a little bit. Recent rumors indicated that the Android 5.0 Lollipop update is coming closer for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, but there have now been reports that the update has been pushed back a little further.
According to the most recent updates, the new Galaxy Note 4 ROM has been handed over to a team that’s working to ensure the device will have full compatibility with Samsung’s Gear VR. Considering the Note 4 is one of the very few devices that will (reportedly) support the Gear VR, it’s no wonder that Samsung are trying so hard to make sure that this compatibility works flawlessly.
The Gear VR is Samsung’s own take on the Virtual Reality concept, although they’re approaching the problem from a different direction. Instead of selling a complete device including an internal screen for the goggles, the Gear VR is meant to be used with Samsung’s other devices. The user would attach, for example, the Galaxy Note 4, and would then use the Gear VR as a normal VR headset, using the screen of the device.
It’s not known how much different this technology will be from the Oculus Rift in terms of performance, and there has been some skepticism aimed at it due to the fact that it relies on one screen instead of two. Still, Samsung seem to know what they’re doing, as they’ve been putting more and more effort into promoting and developing the Gear VR further, so it will be curious to see where they end up with this device. Even if it doesn’t break any solid grounds on the VR market, it still has the potential to set interesting new trends for it, and at least push it forward to some extent. So far, its performance has been acceptable, although those who’ve tried it seem to be left with mixed opinions.
Other devices that are going to get the Android 5.0 Lollipop update include the Galaxy Note Edge, Galaxy Alpha, Galaxy S5 mini, and Galaxy S4. Exact release dates for the new firmware version are not known, but it’s expected that Samsung will prioritize the devices according to their compatibility with the Gear VR. This could potentially indicate which devices Samsung is planning to make compatible with the headset in the future, too.
F%$& Gear VR, I want Lollipop nao =(
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Nice find OP...why the actual **** would we care about gearVR ffs, they'll probably release lollipop for the note 2 soon and note 4 users will still be waiting because of their stupid "virtual reality" ****...
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..
oscar fernando said:
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
samsung galaxy note 4 gets android 5.0 lollipop update in russia
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is this real and can we flash this in the uk??!
I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?
I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos
Well Samsung is making a very bad impression on people who picked up the Note 4 as their first Samsung device. I love the device itself but the TW interface and constant lag on a device this powerful is embarrassing. It worries me that instead of focusing on making TW better for the Lollipop update they are goofing around with compatibility for a $200 piece of plastic that won't even work unless you have a specific device with a specific version of OS installed. Maybe I'm being unfair but I also own a Gear Neo 2 which can't be used on any other phone. See like the Gear VR it can't be used on my Note 4 unless I have a specific version of OS installed. This makes the device extremely limited. It's nice they are making sure the VR is going to work for the few hundred people who have a Gear VR, but for the thousands who don't it isn't a very good excuse for taking 3 months to push out one update. Loving the Note 4 device but not loving TW or the limited customization. This doesn't turn me off android devices at all. Just turning me off from investing in another Samsung product.
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I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos
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I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?
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Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..
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Looks like they were supposed to say the S4 and not the Note 4.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_getting_lollipop_in_russia-news-11008.php
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/30...500-is-getting-the-lollipop-update-in-russia/
well got this last night for what its worth...
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Hm do you reckon they're telling the truth or just bull****ting again to shut us up? If this is true it could be available by Monday
well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol
Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.
How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.
I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together
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I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together
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I too believe in Samsung as much as God........ not at all.
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How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.
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There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
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Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.
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We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
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Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
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Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
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What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
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I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.
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There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.
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I've tried the unofficial CM ROM and the battery issues caused me too many problems. Its nearly there but not enough for me as a daily driver. One day I lost 50% battery in 2 hours lol and phone was hot as hell.
RustyShacklefords said:
well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol
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Here's hoping they knew what they were talking about.
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Here's hoping they knew what they were talking about.
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A good ole bloody cheers to that!
Waiting for the Gear VR to play catch-up is worth it I think.
The Occulus team and the Samsung people have some time to begin to learn how to work with each other and exchange code, and we get to wait a little longer to find out if Lollipop is truly ready for this anyway.
As it is, the way things were going, I was going to manually skip this update.
I love my stock experience (touch wiz notwithstanding) and I can't stand the hoardes that show up to learn how to 're-install KK 'cause the battery's no good anymore and what's up with the notifications....?'
Happened with Ice-Cream (lord help those still devoutly on Gingerbread), happened with Jelly Bean (you'd have thought KK was treading ground Vista there at the beginning) and, mark my words, will happen - with a vengeance - with Lollipop.
I can wait for the last man standing.
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I just switched from Windows Phone ( HD7 ) to Galaxy Note. If you think the situation with updates looks any better on Windows Phone - you're wrong mate. Been waiting for Mango quite a long time - when it arrived, i had to flash a stock rom from other device cause they cut some features from it ( like internet sharing ) which are still oficially not there for some devices ( half a year later! ). There's next update Tango coming - which doesn't actually bring anything new except of low-end device support. And Apollo is scheduled for Q4 - and 1st gen devices "probably won't be getting it"
At least, with Android, you've got custom ROMs that get updated really quickly, big dev scene, the ability to install apps from all sources - and code/test/share your own apps without paying annual fee for having your phone dev-unlocked, and they don't cut features "just because there's a new device - so go buy it".
I love Windows Phone - as a regular phone. I kept waiting and waiting for changes - but the OS is still as locked down as it was in the beginning, no "not from market" apps, no drag-and-drop media, most of apps still dont support multitasking, cant even access your files, and apps from the market, believe me, are not that useful - that's why i moved away to Android.
I'd give it another thought mate - and about Note being laggy - try ICS AOSP rom, they run really smoothly.
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Good riddance, bro. Want some cheese with that whine?
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007shaolin said:
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Laggy as Hell ??? what the hell ? you want to take advantage of openness of Android and still u whinin? lots of custom rom already running smooth on Note...
i m using stock LC2 n its really smooth
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I've never had any problems with Samsung's phones. The leaks provide enough of a base for us to get ICS working and Damn near perfect. I'm running an AOKP build with nearly Zero bugs and get almost 5-6 hours of SCREEN ON time per day with nearly 3 days of battery life with my usual texting and web surfing. Android is about being open, and as far as I'm concerned it is. Running ICS, I have had Zero lag, only one minor glitch (which is fixed in updated builds), better battery life than most of my friend's phones, a huge screen, and a OS that isn't crazy limited. If you change, it's obviously up to you, but I would go and test the many ICS roms out there like AOKP or ICStunner as they are simply amazing.
If you would rather have the WP7 then go for it. There's no point in us trying to convince you otherwise if you really have your mind set to it.
i was fan of android but the updates man o man do it 1 time in a month or so but every 2 a 3 day....update update....
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I got my device in december, and I've received 3 updates (maybe 4) since then. That's a lot of updates. I have no complaints. What you're whining about is not getting the absolute latest OS build right away. I'd much rather have Samsung pushing updates that make it a stable device than Samsung sending us crappy builds. That would defer me, and I'm sure many others who don't like to flash custom ROMs and such, to other devices. I believe Samsung is doing the correct thing and waiting until the ROM is properly developed.
Enjoy WM7. A lot of people seem to enjoy it! I was actually thinking about it, too, a while ago, but it kind of follows Apple's model of multitasking and that doesn't do it for me. Blackberry and Android are the OSs that offer true multitasking (webOS, too, but that seems to be dead in the eyes of HP/Palm lol).
The Note isn't laggy, Gingerbread is. ICS is silky smooth. Samsung needs to hurry up and get ICS on the Note because it shackles such a wonderful device. It's like Apple running the new iPad with iOS 3.0. Your phone is only as good as your software is, and Gingerbread is an antiquated POS.
I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Sell your Note and get a Windows Phone is my advice. That way you'll be moaning in somebody else's forum instead of ours.
I've had WinMo, iPhone, Symbian and more recently Android and Google's contribution is by far the best.
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I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
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You can use market enabler and choose tmobile profile and then you can install every us app that you want. Restart and you will be using default provider flags again. So, there is no problem.
I am using lc1 stock rom, the best out there in my opinion, everything works and pretty fast too.
WP7 is no where near WM6.5 in terms of functionality and way behind Android, IOS too. Android is the best choose in terms of functionality and practicality from all the smartphone OSes out there.
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Honestly shaolin it's people like you that makes devs abandon XDA for whining about everything and everyone! Go.. get a windows phone and when you do and see how limited windows phone is DON'T COME BACK! Stay away from XDA and honestly i hope i can speak in the name of the whole community:
Don't ever come to this forum whining!
I won a Galaxy Note and honestly, i bought my SGS2 without ever had tried Android and i love the possibilities it brings me! The openess on developing!
I simply love it! Had my first chance on SGS2 and i will continue to use this awesome SO!
Please ask an admin to ban your account and go somewhere else!
Bye bye. Enjoy whatever phone you'll be getting. Just remember, it's just a phone at the end of the day.
Im not the only one
Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
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Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
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I don't get folks like you. You actually purchase a phone for what it will be, as opposed to what it is.
Do you only live in the future? Don't forget the present mate.
If you're so unhappy with the lack of updates or the speed of updates, go get iOS and WP7. No one is grabbing you by the ball-sack to stay with Androids.
P.S. Requested to mods that this thread be moved to Android General as it has nothing to do with the Galaxy Note.
Actually I dont even want an update from Samsung any more,yesterday I recirved an update for the Samsung Apps after updating it stoped downloading applications alltogether!!,
"You cant download with this email from this country" bla ..bla..there was no way Icould fix that even after signing up for multiple new accounts.
If things will look like this I rather be left along with the GB.
Moved to teh OT forum as they will advice you better on what to do about your quandary
May the trolls have mercy on your soul mate.
You have a 1.4GHz dual core phone and Mali 400MP GPU and say it lags. My friend has a Wildfire that has a clock speed of 524MHz and no GPU and even he isn't complaining as much as you. Why don't you donate him your phone and make the good switch to Symbian S60?
what is even the point of this thread? It appears you looking to justify your feelings because you read an article and lack confidence to buy a new phone without a thread of people you don't know making a decision for you.
android is great
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Since Samsung has had their Android Wear version of their Gear watches announced (and available for order today), what's the odds of that ROM being loaded on our Gear 1 devices? I, for one, have not gone to Tizen yet in hopes of this taking place and it seems like we are on the verge of this happening. I know it will not be an official release, but something where a rooted device would be needed.
I second ur hopes - held off on Tizen for the same reason
Whether or not Android Wear's better than Tizen all depends on which apps you use on your phone. Android Wear (like Google Now) is dependent on using Google's apps and services. Most of what Now reports off of is scraped from Gmail. I don't use Gmail or any Google apps I don't have to so Now and Android Wear are useless to me and those like me. Most corporate/professional users that use MS products, Exchange, and connect to secure networks (which typically limit apps used for personal use) aren't going to be Android Wear candidates.
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Since Samsung has had their Android Wear version of their Gear watches announced (and available for order today), what's the odds of that ROM being loaded on our Gear 1 devices? I, for one, have not gone to Tizen yet in hopes of this taking place and it seems like we are on the verge of this happening. I know it will not be an official release, but something where a rooted device would be needed.
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I'm sure it'll fit perfectly with gear 2. I see the .tar having the drivers for the watch it's a dependent of
I would be very interested in a Wear port too.
As far as I can see, not too many things have changed on the Gear live compaired to the Gear 1.
Sure, the CPU would be faster but the screen and memory size are the same.
Count me in as well, this is where xda shines.... people coming together to contribute to the common goal. Can't wait.
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How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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I second this !!
shamrock505 said:
How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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It's a discussion forum, no? Everyone here is a wearables early adopter so are interested in whatever comes next. And not everyone here uses their devices the same way or wants the same things. Other than blind fanbois who clearly have no objectivity, I enjoy hearing people's different views; even if I don't agree with them. Your post added less to this discussion than mine did. People wetting themselves over something no one here knows the functional value of (yet) is the height of fanboi-ism. Android Wear could change the world as we know it. It's going to take more than a five minute conference dog and pony for that to happen.
A discussion by folks who want wear not about discussing why someone doesn't need nor want-not a fan of any particular aspect - just bored with Gear 1-if motor 360 looks good I'll purchase, if not then wait a while
Does it only work with Samsung products, I have an invite for an one plus one I want to know if it'll work with the phone too?
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I have been waiting for Android Wear to be released. I believe it would be a wonderful fit for the galaxy gear 1. Let's not forget the functionality of the gear 1 using the Null ROM....android based. Today's conference reiterated how coding would not be that much different for normal Android code. Sounds promising to me.
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From earlier discussions and threads I believe Android wear requires a 4.4 based Rom to operate. The Gear 1 Roms and Null Rom are 4.3 based. The real hurdle will be getting a 4.4 Rom on the Gear. The Devs and contributors on XDA are very talented so with this release of the Gear Live maybe they can accomplish it.
I am curious what the battery will be like on the Gear Live with the always on features of Android wear. The screen has to go into some type of low power mode for the 300mAh battery to last through a day. I also have a Qualcomm Toq that I picked up cheap on ebay, that uses a Mirasol Screen and only has a 240mAh battery. I get 4-5 days always on with it (even over night). The Toq has a tiny processor, runs a unique OS, and the colors are not vibrant, but it is a very capable demonstration smartwatch. I think there may be a future for more advanced Mirasol screens.
Anyway good to see some excitement over our Gear 1. I have enjoyed being an early adapter and experimenting with Null and Tizen on the watch. Maybe Android Wear is in our future.
I want to see this. I really need to get off of this touchwiz train. Wear works with any android at least 4.3.
Hey can someone help me unbrick my alcatel one touch evolve tmobile? I tried using adb and sdk but its not working correctly for some reason. It just says closed every time i try to execute a command... :/
Btw i bricked it by editing the build prop
Does watch styler app work w Gear live?
Ian. B
Good question. Though I think you are about 1 week too early.
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Good question. Though I think you are about 1 week too early.
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I'm sure a quite a bit early haha, but it's a discussion that you'll see a lot of I'm sure.
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I'm sure a quite a bit early haha, but it's a discussion that you'll see a lot of I'm sure.
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Sorry i was refering to @Mr Ian B's question on watchstyler on Android Wear, didn't realize it could have applied to your original question in the OP. :cyclops:
Android wear was just announced yesterday, so it will probably be a while before devs can get their hands on a device, then another while before we see a port, only after that will we see if other features like watchstyler will be able to be ported onto android wear, should not be a major problem as both are of the same platform.
Personally I cannot wait to see a port of Android wear onto the gear1, I would like to see how my gear1 fares withe the screen on feature:laugh:
Been thinking about all this - why would we want Android Wear when it doesn't offer phone answering, camera app, music, storage, etc.
Seriously, the more I think about it, the more I think it would seriously limit the device.
So why are so many people dead set on putting this on the Gear?
(because we can is not a valid answer)
therealduckie said:
Been thinking about all this - why would we want Android Wear when it doesn't offer phone answering, camera app, music, storage, etc.
Seriously, the more I think about it, the more I think it would seriously limit the device.
So why are so many people dead set on putting this on the Gear?
(because we can is not a valid answer)
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Basically I would like to see a port of the 4.2.2 moving closer in Android versions to 4.4 and Wear. So we basically would have Android 4.4 with the Gear goodies and goodies of the Wear (basically Google Now).
Yes a straight Android Wear would cripple all the great features of the Gear 1 / 2.
Chris
I don't understand it eighter...
Hardware wise we have a perfect smartwatch, with more features than the newly announced smartwatches.
Ok, we don't have a round form factor but actually I like the size and wear of my Gear 1 a lot.
All the new smartwatches are not able to take and answer calls indeed. Don't have a own camera for taking pictures and video's.
Only thing they DO have, is the latest version of Android (Wear in this case, based on Android 4.4).
But looking at it closely, is our Android 4.2 so very different than Android 4.4 that we can't do normal stuff anymore ?
No, we can still do everything the new smartwatches can (software wise then).
I have Null_23 on my Gear 1 and more than happy with it !
Not going to switch to Tizen or buy another watch....mine is just perfect !
I love the way my gear is with Null ROM...
Is there anyway to get google now working on the gear 1 that would make me so happy...
Has anyone tried side loading the google now launcher?
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Yes, Google Now launcher works if sideloaded, but you also need a bunch of other packages to make it work. It's not worth it, honestly.
What really pisses me off about this watch is that it was rated worst product of the year by Engadget. Really?! Who's pocket are they in? Now you have a crop of watches with less features and they are being praised as revolutionary. Samsung was a true pioneer with this one. Yes, other watches also paved the way, but to be given such a terrible rep was completely unfair. It certainly needed improvements and was definitely a first gen smartwatch, but android wear went backwards! No phone, no camera, and in some cases, much worse battery life. I get it that the new crop have always on features but I was looking in the coveted Moto 360 forum and most were cutting that feature off...to save battery. Finally,I have never owned a gadget that got more compliments, questions, and attention than my gear 1. I still get, "Nice watch" constantly. So, did Samsung screw it up or make something brilliant? I'd say the latter, and I'm NOT a fanboy. I welcome someone who does a round form factor and improves on the gear 1 design.
Personally, I have been looking around at android wear products but I haven't been impressed by any of them that are currently coming to market now. The concepts look so much better than what is being offered like the Triwa Smartwatch concept. Samsung Galaxy Gear range looks and feels uncomfortable. Moto 360 had the right look. For now, I think I will stick with my Casio and Shark watches.
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I don't see the appeal in a smartwatch either. Smartphones already offer us so much.
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What really pisses me off about this watch is that it was rated worst product of the year by Engadget. Really?! Who's pocket are they in? Now you have a crop of watches with less features and they are being praised as revolutionary. Samsung was a true pioneer with this one. Yes, other watches also paved the way, but to be given such a terrible rep was completely unfair. It certainly needed improvements and was definitely a first gen smartwatch, but android wear went backwards! No phone, no camera, and in some cases, much worse battery life. I get it that the new crop have always on features but I was looking in the coveted Moto 360 forum and most were cutting that feature off...to save battery. Finally,I have never owned a gadget that got more compliments, questions, and attention than my gear 1. I still get, "Nice watch" constantly. So, did Samsung screw it up or make something brilliant? I'd say the latter, and I'm NOT a fanboy. I welcome someone who does a round form factor and improves on the gear 1 design.
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Your post reflects my sentiments and experience exactly! I bought this thing as a toy once they started blowing them out and it has become an indespensible part of my daily life.
I love when people with "newer" tech wonder if they should have waited until the features I have became available..What??? The newer ones can make phone calls??
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Your post reflects my sentiments and experience exactly! I bought this thing as a toy once they started blowing them out and it has become an indespensible part of my daily life.
I love when people with "newer" tech wonder if they should have waited until the features I have became available..What??? The newer ones can make phone calls??
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I honestly bought this watch on a whim. I thought it was a silly concept and literally walked out of Verizon with it on an impulse buy. My plan was to play around with it, and take it back, but then it quickly grew on me. I would feel lost without my watch now. People who haven't owned one don't understand. It sounds ridiculous to say you need an extension of your smartphone, but in practice, you learn to love it.
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I honestly bought this watch on a whim. I thought it was a silly concept and literally walked out of Verizon with it on an impulse buy. My plan was to play around with it, and take it back, but then it quickly grew on me. I would feel lost without my watch now. People who haven't owned one don't understand. It sounds ridiculous to say you need an extension of your smartphone, but in practice, you learn to love it.
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Exactly.... Never wanted or was interested in getting one, till they got cheap and I was away for business for 3weeks. Bought it as a toy to play with for my boring days at a hotel. And now I totally love it. Love looking at my wrist to see who is calling and then answering or ignoring it. Very handy . I also stopped my quest to load all kinds of sounds etc. I keep it on silent all the time. The vibrations are always felt. They even wake me with the alarm feature. I also cut back on all the notifications except the basics. Anyhow I'm extremely happy with buying it, and I wonder what I will do when this things kicks the bucket. I don't want a fancy time piece or a Wear device. Now if the next gen Wear devices have the stuff I have and use on my Gear then I'll take a look. But my must haves will be a speaker to talk etc. And a camera just because I can...
Chris
Hinder us? I thought android wear was a launcher over stock android 4.4? If that's the case, the camera would still work, phone calls would still work, and the features of android wear added.
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Hinder us? I thought android wear was a launcher over stock android 4.4? If that's the case, the camera would still work, phone calls would still work, and the features of android wear added.
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Unfortunately it's not that easy as you picture it...
Our Gears are running Tizen or Android 4.2.2 and in both cases the Gears need to be upgraded to Android 4.4 in order to run Android Wear.
But upgrading our devices to Android 4.4 is not that easy.
Besides the source code (for compiling) Android 4.4, we also need source for the drivers of our hardware (like camera, speaker, microfoon, etc).
Some source is open souce, like Android itself.
But other source code is so called closed source, source code owned by someone (in our case Samsung) which they don't publish on the internet.
Not having the correct drivers will most probably be a show-stopper for getting Android Wear on our Gears.
Unless a really skilled programmer can create drivers for the hardware, or we can get our hands somehow on the source code of the drivers.
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Unfortunately it's not that easy as you picture it...
Our Gears are running Tizen or Android 4.2.2 and in both cases the Gears need to be upgraded to Android 4.4 in order to run Android Wear.
But upgrading our devices to Android 4.4 is not that easy.
Besides the source code (for compiling) Android 4.4, we also need source for the drivers of our hardware (like camera, speaker, microfoon, etc).
Some source is open souce, like Android itself.
But other source code is so called closed source, source code owned by someone (in our case Samsung) which they don't publish on the internet.
Not having the correct drivers will most probably be a show-stopper for getting Android Wear on our Gears.
Unless a really skilled programmer can create drivers for the hardware, or we can get our hands somehow on the source code of the drivers.
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I'm just saying that if a dev were to get it running, it wouldn't hinder us any way
Same here love my Gear 1 running Null with all the features, calling and camara.
thinking of getting the Gear S cause it does most of the things i do now like reply to text messeges(Tablet Talk) with keyboard which is my favorite feature. i could watch youtube and when i get a text i just answer thru my watch no need to stop what im doing on my phone.
But my only reservation with the Gear S is the strap it looks to big.
Any thoughts on the Gear S?
Guys,
i've been checking XDA every several days to see if there will be any information regarding Android 7 ROMs for N910F, but there seems to be an absolute silence.
Is there anyone from the development teams that could give an update on the subject, should we expect any roms this month, for example? i'm surprised by this silence, because Galaxy Tab S, for example, already has 7.0 rom for weeks:
[ROM][7.0] Android 7 - Nougat [T700/T705/T800/T805]
There have been a lot of complaints regarding battery life on MM, so maybe android 7 will be the next great thing in Note 4 Roms?
thanks!!
You could always pick up the great guides on here, buy a book or two, and start a 7.0N thread including a ROM
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You could always pick up the great guides on here, buy a book or two, and start a 7.0N thread including a ROM!
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what an unhelpful and useless reply, really!
of course, probably you grow the cow first if you want to have some milk, or maybe build an airplane first if you need to fly to a different city. if you find it reasonable, good for you!
however this does not give any information regading upcoming Android 7 roms for N910F, or why they are not showing up (are there any issues, etc).
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Guys,
i've been checking XDA every several days to see if there will be any information regarding Android 7 ROMs for N910F, but there seems to be an absolute silence.
Is there anyone from the development teams that could give an update on the subject, should we expect any roms this month, for example? i'm surprised by this silence, because Galaxy Tab S, for example, already has 7.0 rom for weeks:
[ROM][7.0] Android 7 - Nougat [T700/T705/T800/T805]
There have been a lot of complaints regarding battery life on MM, so maybe android 7 will be the next great thing in Note 4 Roms?
thanks!!
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It says that the Android 7 Nougat ROM for the Galaxy Tab S has no telephony at present! Not a good start for a mobile phone ... however "smart" it may be!!
I suspect that is the main problem!
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It says that the Android 7 Nougat ROM for the Galaxy Tab S has no telephony at present! Not a good start for a mobile phone ... however "smart" it may be!!
I suspect that is the main problem!
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it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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Yes I have the Note 4 (SM-N910F) and the Tab S (SM-T805) and have Lollipop on both. I am sure that as the Android 7 (Nougat) ROM gets rolled out to phones as opposed to tablets there will be some Nougat ROMs appearing for our Note 4. The person who cooked the Nougat ROM for the Tab S obviously had difficulties getting the telephony to work He says:
"Issues
Graphical glitches on rotation and screen off
RIL, meaning no telephony support so far"
- that is probably why that ROM hasn't been developed further for phones!
lisbon2004 said:
it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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The tab s has almost the same procrssor as the note 4 exynos. However yes it isnt a processor which is good for an flagship tablet but Samsung does that with all tablets, the New Tab S2 2016 edition also only has a SD652 processor, which also cant be clasified as high end..
Ok, seems like finally there's progress:
Android 7 for T-mobile Note 4
Let's hope the recall of note 7 will give us a nougat official samsung rom!
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Let's hope the recall of note 7 will give us a nougat official samsung rom!
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I logged in just to share that thought too! Since the Note 7 is dead now, I think the Note 4 has to get Nougat along with the Note 5 fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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I logged in just to share that thought too! Since the Note 7 is dead now, I think the Note 4 has to get Nougat along with the Note 5 fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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I hope too. But let's don't get overwhelmed by the hope.
From business perspective it's pointless to invest in old device support in this situation. They've lost billions on Note7. Upgrading Note4 to Nougat means more spending and give users reasons to stay longer on old devices, while they want you to buy a new one quicker to cover their expenses.
Upgrading Note4 would be a very noble move from Samsung, but as their previous behavior shows, noble moves are not in their habits.
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I hope too. But let's don't get overwhelmed by the hope.
From business perspective it's pointless to invest in old device support in this situation. They've lost billions on Note7.
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well, if you ignore customers and their loyalty, then it'd be pointless to invest in old device support.
if you value your customers, then it is not pointless.
because happy customers help you sell your products; unhappy customers do the opposite.
at the end of the day, there's nothing really that would prevent a healthy Android 7 ROM to be made for the Note 7.
Samsung has already made a lot of people angry by removing features like Flat screen, the removable battery, ir blaster, etc. If the battery were removable in Note 7, very possibly the recall and the media disaster wouldn't even have happened.
Let's see if they will lean, and will become customer-focused again.
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well, if you ignore customers and their loyalty, then it'd be pointless to invest in old device support.
if you value your customers, then it is not pointless.
because happy customers help you sell your products; unhappy customers do the opposite.
at the end of the day, there's nothing really that would prevent a healthy Android 7 ROM to be made for the Note 7.
Samsung has already made a lot of people angry by removing features like Flat screen, the removable battery, ir blaster, etc. If the battery were removable in Note 7, very possibly the recall and the media disaster wouldn't even have happened.
Let's see if they will lean, and will become customer-focused again.
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I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have. I'm not trying to say they are stupid or something, they just don't care or the OS version is not their priority.
Plus lots of old device owners are not direct Samsung customers, that's what this business success is about: if customer wants to be on the edge, (s)he should buy new. I don't know if there's a research about how many - 2-3 y.o. flagships have 2nd+ owners, but the refurbished phone market is quite big. So, part of not so must-do investment like upgrading old phones is not only going to nowhere for the phone makers, but also creates undesired competition for their new products on some markets (e.g. like in my country where operators' offers phone+contract aren't so "sweet" like in countries with bigger number of potential customers and people would think twice if they need to upgrade with brand-new or lightly used). Note4 users are just a thin slice.
And you can't blame Samsung for not taking care about old device owners - they released 6.0.1 update for N910F not so long ago, they run "buy-back" program in lots of places. But, you know, there should be something to get you interested in buying new phone.
OK, seems like we're going off topic here
I did get the same thought about my Note4 and Nougat as soon as I heard about termination of Note7, but... I'm skeptic here. It's hard time for Samsung to invest in something with doubtful possibility to return and make their new products less valuable comparing to old ones.
I've no idea what you all are thinking, but 1. There sure as Hell won't be an official Sammy Update to 7.0. Never ever.
2. 7.0 Custom roms are far away. Since no Samsung phone is on an official stable build (afaik) there's no base yet. So the only Option is AOSP. In my experience even the 6.0 Roms aren't stable enough for a daily driver. Since a Nougat port needs some base, normally the 6.0 Rom would be used as a base. It gets a bit technical from here on, but tldr is, it's not as easy as downloading the source, copying some folders around and bang, rom...
3. As a (un)written rule, you never ask for eta's. Ever. It's no problem if you ask if there is anything out there, but as you figured already out, there's not. So asking like a child on christmas day when it's going to be there, especially that close to release of the source, is considered rude.
jm2c
domsch1988 said:
3. As a (un)written rule, you never ask for eta's. Ever. It's no problem if you ask if there is anything out there, but as you figured already out, there's not. So asking like a child on christmas day when it's going to be there, especially that close to release of the source, is considered rude.
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your comment regarding the lack of the first official base gives some understanding regarding 7.0 status, thanks for that!
As for the last one, p.3, asking "when" and "how is it going" could be considered rude only by really childish and immature persons.
There are a lot of people here on XDA that flash roms in their spare time too (like people that develop them), and not everyone has too much of it. we would like to have at least some basic understanding about 7.0 progress, to plan migration to the new rom (which requires dedicating several consecutive days for roms flashing, data migration, and testing). Asking when, is about planning.
"I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have.".
According to my experience, this is true. No one here should think that they use their phones the way we do, here on XDA. 8 out of 10 users just update their devices, because they see the OTA notification appearing, but don´t even care about the differences between the old OS and the new one. If you ask them, what is KitKat and Lollipop, or root, most likely they won´t know the answers. As long as Facebook, WhatsApp, Viber, whatever works, everything´s fine. The only difference they do care about, is battery ilfe. By the way, battery life... I´m an android user since Gingerbread. I had several devices, before i bought the Note 1, and since then I´m using only Note phones, I had the Note 2, Note 3, and now for a long time, Note 4. I never ever understood why some people are so keen on having the newest OS, because according to my experience, the newest is rarely the better... I liked KitKat, especially the X-Note custom ROM´s. Lollipop was on the market for long time, i had to reflash my phone, so i thought i give it a try. After a few weeks of being on Lollipop, i ran back to KitKat, my good old X-Note. Lollipop was a huge stepback in battery life, and i haven´t experienced any really noticable advantages. About a month ago i deciced to upgrade my KitKat to Marshmallow, just out of curiousity. A huge disappointment, again. Battery life is also worse, the overhyped permission management system is a joke, and apart from the off-screen memo i haven´t found anything useful in MM. So, as before, i went back to my good old KK, i enjoy the stability, the extreme long battery life, and, honestly, i don´t even wait to Nougat.
tompika72 said:
"I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have.".
According to my experience, this is true... (shortened).
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It goes even further than not careing. My own girlfriend HATES OS Updates. i told her, that for her Mate 7 there's a new Android Version out. She refuses to update because every update on every device ever (not only android, windows too) meant major hassle for her. She uses the phone as is and everything that changes anything is evil. Don't try to argue with security or such. She is just feared, that her phone won't work the same anymore. And seeing how much i flash my phone to "get it working" i can't blame her
Battery life is a topic i'm struggeling with. My inner nerd wants to get the maximum runtime out of that thing. But recently, with Doze introduced, i have some major Notification Problems. Allo doesn't notify at all or 2 days later. Whatsapp randomly delays Notifications by hours... Maybe the ever itching battery saving thing has gone to far. I mean, on a typical workday i leave at 6am and come home at 5pm with 75% Battery left. I just stopped caring. The Note 4 makes it through a day on every OS for me. And a second one if i have too. :good:
Seems like no news at all regarding 7.0 ROMs...
an absolute silence...
Several devs making AOSP/CM Roms have stated in their threads, that it's in the works. Only now some devices running stock'ish roms are getting Android 7 (OPO..) We are rocking an oldish phone with a processor/chipset that no official Android 7 phone has. Samsung has no official 7 rom either. So it's just a lot of work to get something useable.
I'm sure our devs have something bootable. But getting from there to something usable/daily driver ready is a long and bumpy road. Give them some time. We'll get it sooner or later. For sure.
Hi all,
No sure if this is the best place to post this, please feel free to move if needed.
How viable is it for Watch 3 to get updated to WearOS if it indeed comes out with Watch 4? I'm in the market for a smart watch, and I know the hardware in Watch 3 is pretty old and similar to GWA2 I already have. Want to make sure I'll at least get a year or so of feature updates.
Thanks all!
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Hi all,
No sure if this is the best place to post this, please feel free to move if needed.
How viable is it for Watch 3 to get updated to WearOS if it indeed comes out with Watch 4? I'm in the market for a smart watch, and I know the hardware in Watch 3 is pretty old and similar to GWA2 I already have. Want to make sure I'll at least get a year or so of feature updates.
Thanks all!
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This is just my 0.02$ so take it for what it's worth. I would be very surprised if Samsung upgraded the GW3 to WearOS regardless if it's capable or not. As it is it seems like they have totally abandoned it, at least in the US. We have been stuck on firmware BTK2 since late November or early December of last year.
If anything they might offer a trade in deal to lower the price to upgrade to a GW4.