Hey I just want to make sure of a few things before I try this... I saw the thread below but it doesn't saying anything about being able to downgrade later on. I have a Bell incS with the stock 2.3.3 version 2.28.666.3. My phone is not rooted or S-Off but I have made a gold card and was going to flash the WWE RUU 2.30.405.1 to get rid of the bloat. Is it as simple as that? Would it be possible to downgrade back to the original Bell 2.28.666.3 RUU later if I needed warranty with the gold card or not? Also any issues to worry about with debranding like radio/wifi problems or anything else? Thanks
patrick92260 said:
Hey I just want to make sure of a few things before I try this... I saw the thread below but it doesn't saying anything about being able to downgrade later on. I have a Bell incS with the stock 2.3.3 version 2.28.666.3. My phone is not rooted or S-Off but I have made a gold card and was going to flash the WWE RUU 2.30.405.1 to get rid of the bloat. Is it as simple as that? Would it be possible to downgrade back to the original Bell 2.28.666.3 RUU later if I needed warranty with the gold card or not? Also any issues to worry about with debranding like radio/wifi problems or anything else? Thanks
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If you don't have S-OFF on your BM IncS, then you won't be able to flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU because that ROM is for the S710E model (model id PG321300) and the BM Incs is a S710A model (model id PG321200) and it will fail with 'wrong model id' error.
If you go ahead and S-OFF, then you can take the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU and extract the ROM.zip and modify the android-info.txt file in the ROM.zip to change the model id. After that process, you would copy the modified ROM.zip file to the root of your SD card and rename it PG32IMG.zip. Then boot into HBOOT and it will find the PG32IMG.zip file and ask if you want to apply the update. You will then have an unbranded, unrooted IncS. The second advantage of S-OFF is that it will allow you to reflash the BM 2.28.666.3 RUU.
I'm looking at doing the same thing. Wondering if patrick92260 has had any success. I have the Virgin IS and want to debrand it as its loaded with useless BELL apps. Will be attempting this myself, let you know how it goes.
Q: First question is, now that I have the .exe of RUU. How do I go about getting the ROM.zip file.
Figured it out on my own, but for others who are curious.
A:Windows > Run > %TEMP%
Then list by 'last modified folder' and it should be the first one there.
I decided not to debrand the phone because of the different model ID for the Canadian IncS. If you debrand the phone to a WWE RUU it most likely won't ever be able to get an OTA update because when it's tries to update the phone's model ID will still be different. If there is no RUU for that new update then you'll probably be stuck with what you have.
Maybe if the IncS ever gets an actual radio S-Off I will try it.
If you still tried to debrand it though, how did it go?
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I decided not to debrand the phone because of the different model ID for the Canadian IncS. If you debrand the phone to a WWE RUU it most likely won't ever be able to get an OTA update because when it's tries to update the phone's model ID will still be different. If there is no RUU for that new update then you'll probably be stuck with what you have.
Maybe if the IncS ever gets an actual radio S-Off I will try it.
If you still tried to debrand it though, how did it go?
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Just a point of clarification. When I debranded my Bell IncS, I put the original WWE GB 2.12.405.7 ROM on it. I then received the OTA notification that 2.30.405.1 was available, so even though you won't get a Bell OTA, you do get the WWE unbranded OTAs.
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Just a point of clarification. When I debranded my Bell IncS, I put the original WWE GB 2.12.405.7 ROM on it. I then received the OTA notification that 2.30.405.1 was available, so even though you won't get a Bell OTA, you do get the WWE unbranded OTAs.
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Hmm maybe I'll go ahead and give it a try then. You didn't have any issues upgrading to the WWE OTA or have problems once it was debranded? I ask just because I know if you debranded the original Desire it would kill the WiFi and I think it caused reception issues.
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Hmm maybe I'll go ahead and give it a try then. You didn't have any issues upgrading to the WWE OTA or have problems once it was debranded? I ask just because I know if you debranded the original Desire it would kill the WiFi and I think it caused reception issues.
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I have not had any issues of debranding my Bell IncS with the WWE roms.
The OTA downloaded fine, but like all OTAs, it checks to make sure you have a stock version of the previous ROM, in this case 2.12.405.7. If you have ClockworkMod installed, the OTA will fail because that isn't the stock recovery. I could have flashed the stock recovery and ran the OTA, but I choose to take the 2.30.405.1 RUU and make a rooted version of it using dsi's XDA Android kitchen and ended up flashing that.
Debranding went smoothly. Flashed the WWE just fine after editing the file.
Then went ahead and installed 4EXTRecovery and Virtuous Unity over that though.
Whether doing the debranding helped or not, I'm not sure. Either way I'm down to just essential apps in this rom, no bloatware.
As for OTA updates, who cares really. If you're on this forum, you've got enough knowledge to flash yourself and not have to wait for OTA updates to arrive.
Original Bell Incredible S rom
Any one have the OEM "stock" rom/radio/kernel from Bell in case of warranty?
I did not think about this when I flashed mine and it would be great in case the hardware fail..
everything is working perfectly fine right now so it's just a "in case" question.
neurobrake said:
Any one have the OEM "stock" rom/radio/kernel from Bell in case of warranty?
I did not think about this when I flashed mine and it would be great in case the hardware fail..
everything is working perfectly fine right now so it's just a "in case" question.
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Yes, the shipped Bell Mobile stock Gingerbread RUU can be found here:
RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_BM_2.28.666.3_Radio_20.2805 .30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M_release_199657_signed.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc9d...657_signed.exe
Thanks to football for posting the shipped ROMs in the Development section.
The file is gone.
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Yes, the shipped Bell Mobile stock Gingerbread RUU can be found here:
RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_BM_2.28.666.3_Radio_20.2805 .30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M_release_199657_signed.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc9d...657_signed.exe
Thanks to football for posting the shipped ROMs in the Development section.
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justaway2 said:
The file is gone.
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Use the link that is in this thread (must have been a bad copy and paste):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922
I need this file
tpbklake said:
Use the link that is in this thread (must have been a bad copy and paste):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922
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I need this file. Can you please update the link? Point me to it.
digitzgal said:
I need this file. Can you please update the link? Point me to it.
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Go to the site HTCDEV.com and you can download the final ICS RUU.
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Thanks a tonne for responding.
I''ve an HTC Incredible S, it was at Bell's stock version, RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_BM_2.28.666.3_Radio_20.2805 .30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M_release_199657_signed. I followed this guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118187) to root, install recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-vivo.img and soff my phone. I did not install any custom images on it.
In order to unroot and install the HTC OTA update/RUU:
Can I directly run this zip from HTC site and will it work? OR do I need to follow some other procedure to downgrade my phone to the default image(v2.3) and then upgrade to v4.0 ?
I found this v4.0 for Incrediable S for NAM (Canada) listed on HTCDEV site. Nothing else v2.3 or anything for Bell is listed there.
Incredible S
HTC
NAM (Canada)
RUU
N/A
v4.0 374.4 MB
4.14.405.2
digitzgal said:
Thanks a tonne for responding.
I''ve an HTC Incredible S, it was at Bell's stock version, RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_BM_2.28.666.3_Radio_20.2805 .30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M_release_199657_signed. I followed this guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118187) to root, install recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-vivo.img and soff my phone. I did not install any custom images on it.
In order to unroot and install the HTC OTA update/RUU:
Can I directly run this zip from HTC site and will it work? OR do I need to follow some other procedure to downgrade my phone to the default image(v2.3) and then upgrade to v4.0 ?
I found this v4.0 for Incrediable S for NAM (Canada) listed on HTCDEV site. Nothing else v2.3 or anything for Bell is listed there.
Incredible S
HTC
NAM (Canada)
RUU
N/A
v4.0 374.4 MB
4.14.405.2
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No, if you have BlackRose S-OFF, you will not be able to flash the 4.14.405.2 RUU. There is a link in my signature that is a stock, rooted ROM based on this RUU that you can safely install. I would recommend that along with poondog's kernel that is also linked in my signature.
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Thanks tpbklake,
I didn't perform Step11, to install Blackrose.
I followed, Step 1, Skipped 2. Couldn't follow Step3, since I had bootrom HBOOT 1.13.0000, I could never get the OEM identifier token. Then I directly performed Step 9 to get revolutionary soff. Then I followed Step 4,5 to install clockwork recovery and root my phone. Then I performed Step 6. That's it. No other steps or flashing of custom rom.
Can I go ahead with the 4.0 RUU from HTCDev?
digitzgal said:
Thanks tpbklake,
I didn't perform Step11, to install Blackrose.
I followed, Step 1, Skipped 2. Couldn't follow Step3, since I had bootrom HBOOT 1.13.0000, I could never get the OEM identifier token. Then I directly performed Step 9 to get revolutionary soff. Then I followed Step 4,5 to install clockwork recovery and root my phone. Then I performed Step 6. That's it. No other steps or flashing of custom rom.
Can I go ahead with the 4.0 RUU from HTCDev?
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No. Run the blackrose tool. (Make sure you have CM7 or another rooted ROM for this). Fully run it so that now, in the bootloader, instead of Revolutionary, You should see Blackrose. Then run the tool again but this time select Uninstall Blackrose and at the end of that, you should have HBOOT 1.13.0000. Relock bootloader and then run the RUU.
Or you can just use tbpklake's stock rooted ROM. That was built off the lateset WWE RUU I believe.
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No. Run the blackrose tool. (Make sure you have CM7 or another rooted ROM for this). Fully run it so that now, in the bootloader, instead of Revolutionary, You should see Blackrose. Then run the tool again but this time select Uninstall Blackrose and at the end of that, you should have HBOOT 1.13.0000. Relock bootloader and then run the RUU.
Or you can just use tbpklake's stock rooted ROM. That was built off the lateset WWE RUU I believe.
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Thanks I can't use rooted ROM for a test I am doing.
So keep following the previous guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118187) to perform Steps 10,11 for flashing CM7 and Blackrose. Then re-run Blackrose utility to uninstall it. Then lock the bootloader and run RUU from htcdev. Correct?
How do I lock the bootloader again?
digitzgal said:
Thanks I can't use rooted ROM for a test I am doing.
So keep following the previous guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118187) to perform Steps 10,11 for flashing CM7 and Blackrose. Then re-run Blackrose utility to uninstall it. Then lock the bootloader and run RUU from htcdev. Correct?
How do I lock the bootloader again?
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Ok now I'm just freaking confused. What are you trying to do?? Are you trying to root?? Or what??
I had to send in my original Incredible S for repairs, since it wouldn't charge properly anymore. My question is, can I download the first RUU in this link (Ruu VIVO SENSE30 S Htc WWE) and use it to upgrade a stock non-unlocked Incredible S to Sense 3.0? Bell didn't release the Sense 3.0 update OTA for Inc S users, unfortunately.
Edit: Wow..Didnt even include the link I was referring to. http://rapidlibrary.com/index.php?q=ruu+htc+incredible+s
Edit 2: Also could I use these files to flash an S-OFF Hboot or since my phone isn't rooted or unlocked will it fail, or damage the phone at all? http://d-h.st/users/Inferi0r/?fld_id=2621#files
ZaySk said:
I had to send in my original Incredible S for repairs, since it wouldn't charge properly anymore. My question is, can I download the first RUU in this link (Ruu VIVO SENSE30 S Htc WWE) and use it to upgrade a stock non-unlocked Incredible S to Sense 3.0? Bell didn't release the Sense 3.0 update OTA for Inc S users, unfortunately.
Edit: Wow..Didnt even include the link I was referring to. http://rapidlibrary.com/index.php?q=ruu+htc+incredible+s
Edit 2: Also could I use these files to flash an S-OFF Hboot or since my phone isn't rooted or unlocked will it fail, or damage the phone at all? http://d-h.st/users/Inferi0r/?fld_id=2621#files
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which version is your hboot ? and you should be able to flash any ruu that belongs to your region
ZaySk said:
I had to send in my original Incredible S for repairs, since it wouldn't charge properly anymore. My question is, can I download the first RUU in this link (Ruu VIVO SENSE30 S Htc WWE) and use it to upgrade a stock non-unlocked Incredible S to Sense 3.0? Bell didn't release the Sense 3.0 update OTA for Inc S users, unfortunately.
Edit: Wow..Didnt even include the link I was referring to. http://rapidlibrary.com/index.php?q=ruu+htc+incredible+s
Edit 2: Also could I use these files to flash an S-OFF Hboot or since my phone isn't rooted or unlocked will it fail, or damage the phone at all? http://d-h.st/users/Inferi0r/?fld_id=2621#files
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With a stock Bell IncS you will only be able to flash any of the North American RUUs. Such as any of the RUU with BM in the file name.
The Sense 3.0 WWE will not install because the NA IncS is modelid PG3212000 and the WWE RUU is for modelid PG3213000.
My Hboot is 1.13.0000 S-ON. Thanks for the answers, can I use any NA RUU or only Bell RUUs? Bell didn't release the sense 3.0 update for Inc S sadly, which is why I want to flash a different RUU so I can have Sense 3.0 while I wait for my phone to come back.
ZaySk said:
My Hboot is 1.13.0000 S-ON. Thanks for the answers, can I use any NA RUU or only Bell RUUs? Bell didn't release the sense 3.0 update for Inc S sadly, which is why I want to flash a different RUU so I can have Sense 3.0 while I wait for my phone to come back.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583395
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583395
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How do I flash it without a custom recovery? Or do I have to install a custom recovery first?
Thanks for the help guys.
Edit: Nevermind, I did some reading and searching through XDA and found my answer.
I have incS running stock gingerbread 2.3.5 sense 3.0. I want to update it to ics via this ruu. Can I do it? I have s-on and unrooted and has never unlocked or s-off.
I am a noob on these htc devices.Please help!
It's older version of ICS RUU, go to htcdev.com, then to kernel source code download section, configure filter by device (choose Incredible S) and the first three files are the RUU you need, choose WWE version.
I couldn't find any ics ruus with wwe. I filtered according to device and android version.See attachment.
No problem.
Can I flash ASIA because I can't find WWE. Btw, should I follow the provided instructions of the ruu to flash or other?
prime_225 said:
Can I flash ASIA because I can't find WWE. Btw, should I follow the provided instructions of the ruu to flash or other?
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You can use Asia.
Thanks. I will flash it tomorrow following on screen instructions and let u know.
I need the ruu for htc velocity to flash it back to stock please i need it
Hi,
Is there a RUU for 3.44.841.3? I wanna root and flash a rom but I wanna have the correct RUU incase things go sour.
Locky123 said:
I need the ruu for htc velocity to flash it back to stock please i need it
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try goo.im and search for "ruu telstra", then the first one should be fine i suppose.
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or pick the telstra ruu from here: http://www.androidfiles.org/ruu/?dir=Holiday (thanks to user football)
I wanted to update my One,but didnt i find ruu for rogers htc one, any one can help me? thx! Btw how to use :laugh:m7ul-jb-crc-3.4.10-42e6c45.tar.gz:laugh: this kind of file which i download from website= =
There is a link provided in the other thread asking for a Rogers HTC One RUU
Rumball said:
There is a link provided in the other thread asking for a Rogers HTC One RUU
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I need help too... I got that same file from htcdev. It's a Kernel specifically for Rogers HTC One but it's a .tar file. Do you know how to flash the .tar file? I currently have CWM recovery unlocked bootloader and rooted. I just want to get back to stock. I have a stock Rogers nandroid backup provided by XDA that I used. Now I just need stock recovery for OTA's but I can't find one for Rogers... I was wondering if this kernel provided by htcdev for Rogers HTC one will do the trick, if so, how do I flash it because it's a .tar file..
Thanks,
Nuj