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So here's the deal, I unlocked my T-Mobile Moto X bootloader through Motorola's website about a year ago or so. I also rooted and didn't bother updating afterwards to anything since I had everything working perfectly for me. Now I need to update my 4.2.2 Moto X to 4.4.3 (or really anything >=4.3 just so I can use my Moto 360 that'll be arriving soon).
My question is, with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, TWRP 2.6.3.1, Xposed-installed Moto X, can I go ahead and flash a stock 4.4.3 ROM (for example from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675) and just call it a day?
I've been reading past threads and stuff to get back into the loop, but I just can'f find anything to answer me the simple question of updating an unlocked+rooted 4.2.2->4.4+ while keeping root. Just the simple question of, if I get a stock 4.4 image and flash it on my phone, will everything be okay?
I no longer have the passion and interest to constantly be fiddling with kernels, ROMs, and little hacks with my phone like I used to with my OG Droid and, to a lesser extent, with my Galaxy Nexus (plus I feel like it's gotten significantly less easy since those OG days).
I know (i.e. 90% sure) that one way to do what I want (kinda) is RSDLite/manually go back to stock without root on 4.2.2 and then accept the OTA, but certainly it has to be easier than that right? What happened to the days where I can just find a new Gingerbread ROM for my Froyo Droid and just flash it right then and there? Now everything is "go back to stock and do these convoluted steps."
(I'm sorry I'm ranting, I'm just really tired at the moment haha)
Thank you all, hopefully, for the help!
If you don't care about retaining your data, grab the 4.4.3 fxz and unzip it. Follow the directions for returning back to stock here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 but replace the files to be flashed with the files from the 4.4.3 fxz. Not sure where you got the idea that you need to go back to stock. Word of caution, once on 4.4.3 there's no going back to an older version.
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
RGNDI said:
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate version recovery again and then flashing supersu.
1ad_m12 said:
You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate vision recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
RGNDI said:
OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
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Yeah that would work as long as your radio is compatible with the rom. The rom you shared earlier should be fine. Just don't downgrade to anything pre 4.4 as that can cause issues because of partition sizes (or so I've heard). But after that I wouldn't take any OTA's cause your bootloader would be incompatible with the OTA and possibly cause a brick. If I were you I'd revert to stock and take the long way to 4.4.3 just so I can get the OTA for when Android L comes out. In fact thats what I plan on doing if the Sunshine bootloader unlock is successful. But if you don't care about that then everything should be fine.
alright so i have a tmobile z that is still on the stock 4.2.2 firmware. not rooted or messed with at all. im wondering, should i take the latest update? will it make getting root or unlocking the bootloader harder...just looking for some thought and insight. tyically im all for rooted and rom'd phones. something nice about being stock...
tell me what you think!
thanks
Can't unlock boot loader so no custom Roms. Unless something has changed that I don't know about
kdm212 said:
alright so i have a tmobile z that is still on the stock 4.2.2 firmware. not rooted or messed with at all. im wondering, should i take the latest update? will it make getting root or unlocking the bootloader harder...just looking for some thought and insight. tyically im all for rooted and rom'd phones. something nice about being stock...
tell me what you think!
thanks
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You can root your device with an app called Towelroot. Then install SuperSU from Play Store. Then install NUT dual recovery. Then flash prerooted 4.4.4 ROM. Now you will get rooted 4.4.4 ROM with dual recovery. But you cannot unlock your bootloader because it's locked from your carrier and cannot be unlocked.
any roms you recommend?
Hello!
I've done some reading and having not gotten a satisfactory answer I thought I'd throw my question out to the community.
I'm currently running Twisted Lollipop v7.
I can Odin back to stock 4.4.2 whenever and redo towelroot and install safestrap etc.
I've been unsuccessful at flashing an AOSP rom and wanted to confirm once and for all if it is truly impossible to flash Blisspop or Cyanogenmod or Sonic or any of those I enjoyed on my trusty old S3 onto my unlocked At&T S5 Active.
If it is not possible I will get rid of this unlocked AT&T S5 active and get a used what? The T-mobile variant? The international variant? I just want to be able to flash whatever the hell I want without too much hassle! I do like the phone other than that though!
Looking forward to any advice!
Thanks!
Edbogue
edbogue said:
Hello!
I've done some reading and having not gotten a satisfactory answer I thought I'd throw my question out to the community.
I'm currently running Twisted Lollipop v7.
I can Odin back to stock 4.4.2 whenever and redo towelroot and install safestrap etc.
I've been unsuccessful at flashing an AOSP rom and wanted to confirm once and for all if it is truly impossible to flash Blisspop or Cyanogenmod or Sonic or any of those I enjoyed on my trusty old S3 onto my unlocked At&T S5 Active.
If it is not possible I will get rid of this unlocked AT&T S5 active and get a used what? The T-mobile variant? The international variant? I just want to be able to flash whatever the hell I want without too much hassle! I do like the phone other than that though!
Looking forward to any advice!
Thanks!
Edbogue
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No you can not flash any AOSP roms on a device that runs safestrap, the bootloader isnt unlocked so you cant install a custom recovery the closest thing to a recovery is safestrap, and with a locked bootloader you can not install kernels which is why you cant install AOSP based roms.
mcmellens said:
No you can not flash any AOSP roms on a device that runs safestrap, the bootloader isnt unlocked so you cant install a custom recovery the closest thing to a recovery is safestrap, and with a locked bootloader you can not install kernels which is why you cant install AOSP based roms.
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Thank you for your response!
Blues! It's what I suspected. I intend to offload this phone as a result and get another. Which variant would you recommend I get so I can flash happily and not worry about a locked bootloader? The SM-G900F, or what else would you recommend?
Thanks for your help!
Edbogue
edbogue said:
Thank you for your response!
Blues! It's what I suspected. I intend to offload this phone as a result and get another. Which variant would you recommend I get so I can flash happily and not worry about a locked bootloader? The SM-G900F, or what else would you recommend?
Thanks for your help!
Edbogue
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Any phone that has a carrier would be locked for the most part, i know sprint and maybe t-mobile usually don't lock there bootloaders, but that doesn't mean anything they could still be locked down. Your best bet if your looking to get a new phone for whatever reason stick with the ones straight from samsung the international versions. they usually don't have locked bootloaders.
Hello guys, this is posible on the motorola droid turbo XT124?
JexusDreek1 said:
Hello guys, this is possible on the motorola droid turbo XT124?
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Since Droid Turbo XT1254 doesn't yet have stock Marshmallow from Verizon, I assume you are on a custom Marshmallow ROM or @iiWoodstocK Marshmallow Brazil ROM, based on the XT1225 stock Marshmallow ROM.
You flashed it with TWRP, which means your bootloader is unlocked.
You are still using Verizon's Lollipop radio and I assume you are still using Lollipop bootloader.
Just flash the Lollipop ROM of your choice.
If you want to go back to stock Lollipop, CF's ROM is very close or you can even flash stock image via adb or rsdlite.
IF for some reason you did flash the Marshmallow bootloader, then exclude GPT.bin from any flash commands. You can't downgrade bootloaders.
I flashed "aokp_quark_mm_unofficial_2016-10-02_0936"
I put this rom by TRWP from lollipop 5.1 verizon. I do not know if the bootloader was updated, I do not think.
Then I can go back to 5.1 verizon stock by Rsd
or fastboot?
Thank you for answers and sorry for the bad English ^^
JexusDreek1 said:
I flashed "aokp_quark_mm_unofficial_2016-10-02_0936"
I put this rom by TRWP from lollipop 5.1 verizon. I do not know if the bootloader was updated, I do not think.
Then I can go back to 5.1 verizon stock by Rsd
or fastboot?
Thank you for answers and sorry for the bad English ^^
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Yes. You flashed AOKP ROM. You can go back to stock completely, but you would get stock recovery, not TWRP (until you reflashed TWRP).
You can also flash CF ROM (computerfreek274) which is tweaked stock-based Droid Turbo Lollipop. You wouldn't even lose TWRP.
See here:
ROM Computerfreek274_Unlocked.49_1.3.7 6/5/2016 Tether, Advanced Calling, Audio Mods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3255945
ChazzMatt said:
Yes. You flashed AOKP ROM. You can go back to stock completely, but you would get stock recovery, not TWRP (until you repaired refreshed it).
You can also flag CF ROM (computerfreak) which is tweaked stock Lollipop. You wouldn't even lose TWRP.
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3255945
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Thank you very much for supporting me.
Everything went well and now I have this rom.
TWRP reinstalled, busybox and Xposed and everything went well.
However, I have not been able to run the notification light.
And being in stock, if you turn on the LED.
JexusDreek1 said:
Thank you very much for supporting me.
Everything went well and now I have this rom.
TWRP reinstalled, busybox and Xposed and everything went well.
However, I have not been able to run the notification light.
And being in stock, if you turn on the LED.
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On stock or stock-based ROM like CF, the light only comes on if you have a very low battery. It's not a message/email notification light on stock.
On the Quark, the "notification" light only works on a few CM-based custom ROMs. @bhb27 experimented and enabled it in Resurrection Remix and Bliss and AOKP maintainer uses his coding.
If you want that, and also Lollipop, then you would have to go to the Lollipop version of Resurrection Remix, which is not being updated anymore. It still works, and you can find it over in the other forum if you scroll down into the development threads -- but @bhb27 is focusing all his attention on current software.
This question is as close to mine as I can find so I hope posting here is OK.
I got the VZ OTA update (Before unlock and root) to marsh and it literally broke a few of the programs I use. Some of them will never get updates so that is out. So I would like to go back to 5. Because I did get the OTA to 6 is it possible to go back to 5? Yes I am unlocked and rooted. OR would trying one of the 7's be better?
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This question is as close to mine as I can find so I hope posting here is OK.
I got the VZ OTA update (Before unlock and root) to marsh and it literally broke a few of the programs I use. Some of them will never get updates so that is out. So I would like to go back to 5. Because I did get the OTA to 6 is it possible to go back to 5? Yes I am unlocked and rooted. OR would trying one of the 7's be better?
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If you are unlocked and rooted right now (I bolded that statement), yes you can downgrade firmware. But you have to omit gpt.bin in the commands. It's up to you if you wish to try Nougat custom ROMs but your question concerns older programs (apps) that need Lollipop, I thought.
Are there any comparable apps you can use? I don't know what functions these apps do, but if it's related to how the phone functions custom ROMs have many, many built in tweaks/options/enhancements.
I have an xt1058 which is running Android 4.4.0 build 140.44.5.ghost_att.ATT.en.US. I've downloaded and installed Sunshine and am planning to unlock the bootloader as all tests passed without issue. What I am wondering is, after I do this can I take any OTA updates or will this cause me to lose the bootloader unlock?
Of particular concern is incompatibility between older versions of the bootloader and ROMs based on newer Android versions. I ran into this with my Atrix HD which also had an unlocked bootloader. The bootloader on that device was based on Android 4.3 Jellybean. I could not flash any ROMs for MSM8960 devices which used newer bootloaders, for example I always needed to use CM versions with Jellybean bootloader.
Will I have similar issues with my Moto X once the bootloader is unlocked?
Thanks!
No issues, flash latest XT1058 AT&T ROM, and you are in safety. Once unlocked, bootloader can't be locked by any app, but your hands. And there will be no more OTA for this phone.
Btw, you can use Safestrap (for free) on Android 4.4, it will give you possibility to use any stock ROM up to 4.4.4. If you need CM, or 5.1 stock, then yes, Sunshine only.
Just to be clear, I have now successfully unlocked my bootloader using Sunshine (I see the "warning bootloader unlocked" splash at boot up, and have also booted into bootloader and I see "device is UNLOCKED".
I am currently on build 140.44.5.ghost_att.ATT.en.US which is Android 4.4.
Ultimately what I want to do is get rooted but be running stock 5.1. I don't want to go to a custom ROM right now, but don't want to do anything that would prevent me from doing that later. That's why I unlocked the bootloader now.
I am planning to use this process to root the phone:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738
Once this is done, what is the easiest way to move to stock Android 5.1 but not lose root and bootloader unlock/s-off ?
My advice would be - don't update to 5.1 official, it's very very buggy and you'll want to get rid of it very fast.
The best you can do for this phone atm, if you want anything above 4.4 is to go for Mokee 6. It's nearly perfect MM.