AT&T Data Throttling - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey there! I've lurked here since the days of the HTC Incredible Verizon-CMDA. It's been a few years since then and haven't found any reason to actually start a thread until now. Last phone I had was an iPhone 4S and pretty much got sick of it and wanted something new for a change so I picked up a Lumia 635. I know they aren't that great or really anything special, but they are the newest 4G LTE phones that are budget priced so I figured what the heck, spend $60 on it and if I don't like it, I wont be out of too much money.
So anyways, I am on the AT&T GoPhone plan and I was wondering if there was a way within WP8 to change the APN to something on AT&T that wouldnt be throttled down to 128kbps once I go over my limit. There IS the regular SIM APN settings but when you scroll to the bottom of settings and hit "network" you can see that clearly the phone's APN cannot be switched, thus rendering any of the current ways of changing the APN (for example on Android) to something different that removes your phone from the regular throttled network.
I have been researching and from what I can tell so far, there is no possible way to do so, but I know there are some extremely intelligent people here, maybe someone has been able to figure it out
Thanks!

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family plan question

I'm sure this question has been asked before, and I'm expecting the "use search"flame but, I'm on my hd2 over edge at god awful speeds...anyways...
I've had it with this phone, it's terrible. I've had it since launch day, and I'd hoped I would get used to it by now..not the case. before I got this phone I was considering the n1, until I found out it was only upgradeable for individuals. My question is, if I buy an n1 outright, will I be able to get my sim card and put it in and it work?I have a family plan with unlimited data. (T-mobile obviously)
Yes, you can just pop in your exist T-Mobile SIM card and it will work.
Rock on, thanks man.
To add... when I was signing up for my account (I bought the phone outright) I asked what plan options are available. They said I could even use a prepaid SIM in it, they didn't care. Obviously the prepaid would be cheaper depending on how much I use, but you have to keep an eye on it.
From the 3 different TMo reps I talked to, they said your plan is tied to the SIM card, what phone you put that SIM card into, doesn't matter. That's what I was told, hope it's right and hope that helps.
clickwir said:
To add... when I was signing up for my account (I bought the phone outright) I asked what plan options are available. They said I could even use a prepaid SIM in it, they didn't care. Obviously the prepaid would be cheaper depending on how much I use, but you have to keep an eye on it.
From the 3 different TMo reps I talked to, they said your plan is tied to the SIM card, what phone you put that SIM card into, doesn't matter. That's what I was told, hope it's right and hope that helps.
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100% correct. I bought the N1 with ATT 3G bands and just slammed my SIM card in it and away I went
Sweet, since I'm here and got more responses than I thought...from the general consensus, what are the biggest "faults"of the n1?
anything like buggy sms, outdated OS, freeze issues, lockups, <24 battery life it anything like that?
Also this if more a personal preference but, I've had tmobile for 3 years now, but I'm really starting to get irked at the lack of 3g and better technology, would it be worth it to break contract and switch to at&t? I just renewed for another 2 years with tmo so I think it's like 175 it something for early cancellation.
Susasama said:
Sweet, since I'm here and got more responses than I thought...from the general consensus, what are the biggest "faults"of the n1?
anything like buggy sms, outdated OS, freeze issues, lockups, <24 battery life it anything like that?
Also this if more a personal preference but, I've had tmobile for 3 years now, but I'm really starting to get irked at the lack of 3g and better technology, would it be worth it to break contract and switch to at&t? I just renewed for another 2 years with tmo so I think it's like 175 it something for early cancellation.
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nothing so serious as any of those things, the common issues is 3g connectivity being spotty (but they have fixed this for the most part) and touch sensitivity bugs (nothing I've experienced). Tmobile is currently adding 3.5g all around america http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/coverage# see the ling in middle of page to see cities with it and what is comming.
Susasama said:
Sweet, since I'm here and got more responses than I thought...from the general consensus, what are the biggest "faults"of the n1?
anything like buggy sms, outdated OS, freeze issues, lockups, <24 battery life it anything like that?
Also this if more a personal preference but, I've had tmobile for 3 years now, but I'm really starting to get irked at the lack of 3g and better technology, would it be worth it to break contract and switch to at&t? I just renewed for another 2 years with tmo so I think it's like 175 it something for early cancellation.
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Poor Exchange support so if you want this thing to play nice with a work account good luck.
But other than that, there are no show stopper bugs/defects. For the most part the Nexus One with 2.1 is a solid consumer smartphone and there won't be any worry about outdated OS since Google will push out updates to the N1 first and if you're too impatient for them to push it to you, you can always find it here.
About the 3G issues, you may want to check this post which explains how T-Mobile shows their data speeds and check AT&T's coverage map for your area to see how they compare.
I would absolutely not go to AT&T from T-mobile. You're much better off on that side of the road, bro.
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I would absolutely not go to AT&T from T-mobile. You're much better off on that side of the road, bro.
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2nd.coverage may be good but service is terrible.dropped calls and privacy breeches as well

[Q] Straight Talk

Walmart's Straight Talk cellular service now offers two GSM phones, the Nokia E71 and something else. I'm pretty sure they're on AT&T's network (Data specs say 3G - 850/1900 bands). So if I got one of them and their $45 unlimited plan, would that sim card work in my captivate?
My bill is $95/month and thats with only 450 mins, 1500 texts, and the iphone grandfathered data plan. Straight talk offers unlimited data, texts, and minutes for $45/month.
Has anybody tried this?
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I thought that straight talk was through Verizon.. maybe it was called something else.
I know that the phones are on the "low-end" range of devices - and I doubt you could move your current phone to use this service.
I'd suggest searching the ol' intarwebs and see what the reviews are of it's service/availability.
It'd be nice to have all that in a 50$ package - but if you don't get service as soon as you walk out the store what would be the point?
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I thought that straight talk was through Verizon.. maybe it was called something else.
I know that the phones are on the "low-end" range of devices - and I doubt you could move your current phone to use this service.
I'd suggest searching the ol' intarwebs and see what the reviews are of it's service/availability.
It'd be nice to have all that in a 50$ package - but if you don't get service as soon as you walk out the store what would be the point?
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It is, with the exception of these 2 new "smart" phones. These run off the at&t network. Evidently wal-mart is big enough to pull this off.
I'd be willing to bet that ATT will be paying close attention to the IMEI, I don't think we would get away with using the straight talk unlimited plans with our captivates
rootnik said:
It is, with the exception of these 2 new "smart" phones. These run off the at&t network. Evidently wal-mart is big enough to pull this off.
I'd be willing to bet that ATT will be paying close attention to the IMEI, I don't think we would get away with using the straight talk unlimited plans with our captivates
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rootnik said:
It is, with the exception of these 2 new "smart" phones. These run off the at&t network. Evidently wal-mart is big enough to pull this off.
I'd be willing to bet that ATT will be paying close attention to the IMEI, I don't think we would get away with using the straight talk unlimited plans with our captivates
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I was hoping that somebody on here would have tried it already. I personally dont know anybody that has one, otherwise I'd put their sim card in my phone and see what happens.
The two phones on straight talk are legit smart phones and could burn through some serious data, same as we an do with our captivates.
derek4484 said:
I was hoping that somebody on here would have tried it already. I personally dont know anybody that has one, otherwise I'd put their sim card in my phone and see what happens.
The two phones on straight talk are legit smart phones and could burn through some serious data, same as we an do with our captivates.
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The problem is AT&T.
Currently they do IMEI sweeps to make sure you are paying for a data plan if you have a smart phone. I found this out the hard way last week when they automatically added a data plan to my wife's iphone even though she did not use a single byte of data.
How does this relate? While those straight talk phones are smart phones capable of using allot of data, they are not near as nice or as comfortable to use as our captivates. You are more likely to use more data with a captivate, and they know this.
I wouldn't be surprised if they already have measure in place to periodically check the imei to make sure it matches one of the "acceptable" smart phones. Acceptable meaning not very fun to use
I think you would get away with it for a few weeks, but eventually would be shot down.
Actually several people have used the the sim card out of straight talks nokia e71 and used it in there Iphone for sometime now. I have an old AT&T Fuze and everything works but MMS.
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Walmart's Straight Talk cellular service now offers two GSM phones, the Nokia E71 and something else. I'm pretty sure they're on AT&T's network (Data specs say 3G - 850/1900 bands). So if I got one of them and their $45 unlimited plan, would that sim card work in my captivate?
My bill is $95/month and thats with only 450 mins, 1500 texts, and the iphone grandfathered data plan. Straight talk offers unlimited data, texts, and minutes for $45/month.
Has anybody tried this?
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To directly answer your question, I placed the Sim from my sons StraightTalk Samsung slider phone into my Captivate and the message "Sim Card Crashed" appeared on the captivates's display. This did not actually crash the sim card, but I think that it just appeared crashed to the Captivate. If somebody out there was able to get a Captivate working in this manner, it would be nice if they posted detailed step by step instructions on it.
[RUMOR] Verizon was handling Straight Talk, but someone got their panties in a wad and more its att. They are slowly changing thing over. My brother has ST, and was fed up with lack of vzw service on his ST phone. He called raising h*#$ and they offered to send him a sim card for a gsm phone (his old att leftover), and things have been good for him ever since.
FYI: Straight Talk is the monthly service branch of TracPhone.
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Basically yes it is possible to get your captivate working on straight talk. Technically there's a bunch of bs you have to go through to get it to work though.

[Q] Cheap plan in the midwest US? And proper way to get it?

Saw a thread about somebody's AT&T plan being revoked on account of IMEI differences and whatnot...and I've been considering a Note to replace my G2 for a while...but my main concern is plan price and the proper way to get it.
Right now, I'm using the T-Mobile "Walmart" plan (100 minutes, unl'd text, 5GB of 4G data - $30) and I don't want to pay much more if possible. I don't need any more than 100 minutes or 4G data (a 2GB cap with 3G is fine). I've heard one thing I can do is activate a particular Nokia phone on StraightTalk and then use the SIM in the Note without a problem, but that's an extra $100 on top of the already $600+ Note off-contract price. Is that my safest option though, if I don't want to get "caught" by AT&T?
You'll still get caught if you don't empty the contents of the efs folder. If you do, you'll be golden.
I am.
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You'll still get caught if you don't empty the contents of the efs folder. If you do, you'll be golden.
I am.
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Can you elaborate (both where the efs folder is and what plan you're using)?
To access the /efs folder you have to be rooted, and use a file explorer such as root explorer (or I think there's a free alternative.) It's in the root directory of the device. However, people telling others to do this REALLY need to stress the importance of making a backup first! This is a very important directory containing critical device ID information, and at some point in the future you may be screwed if you lose it and don't have a backup.
Supposedly deleting the contents of it will cause the phone to report a generic GSM phone IMEI to the network. If they don't have the Note's IMEI number, they don't know you're using a Note. It'll be the same number as everyone else that does it, but apparently that's not a problem. Yet...
However, I haven't heard of anybody using Straight Talk (Walmart prepaid that uses AT&T) $45 plan having any problems, and I don't see why they would. Straight Talk runs the show and has their own plans, they just buy minutes/data from AT&T and resell them as their own service.
I did a bit research on StraightTalk itself, don't quote me on this but this is what I gathered: you need to buy one of their two Nokia phone which comes with unlocked SIM, SIM from their other phones are locked. Activate it, put in your Note, then you have to change the APN settings to StraightTalk. However, people say that they do throttle you after a few gigs and if you use too much data they can shut down your account. Also their policy do not allow tethering.
I just used up my 5gb with T-Mobile for the first time and the throttle speed is ridiculously slow for me. Getting about 100kbps which is 12kb/s, if you're lucky you might get more, but with 'Evolved Edge' the theoretic limit is about 400kbps. Makes me miss Sprint a bit, I've used to gotten close to 10GB with them with no sign of throttling, but then that was three years ago.
eksasol said:
I did a bit research on StraightTalk itself, don't quote me on this but this is what I gathered: you need to buy one of their two Nokia phone which comes with unlocked SIM, SIM from their other phones are locked. Activate it, put in your Note, then you have to change the APN settings to StraightTalk. However, people say that they do throttle you after a few gigs and if you use too much data they can shut down your account. Also their policy do not allow tethering.
I just used up my 5gb with T-Mobile for the first time and the throttle speed is ridiculously slow for me. Getting about 100kbps which is 12kb/s, if you're lucky you might get more, but with 'Evolved Edge' the theoretic limit is about 400kbps. Makes me miss Sprint a bit, I've used to gotten close to 10GB with them with no sign of throttling, but then that was three years ago.
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I am assuming that your Tmobile data was not, in fact, used up by a Note, correct?
Thanks for the help - I guess I'll check out the StraightTalk method once I scrounge up the money for a Note, since it's the cheapest AT&T-based carrier I've seen that's compatible.
Now I'm not too concerned about actual caps (2GB is fine for me - I rarely go over ~200MB a month), but what kind of speeds can I expect using StraightTalk? I'm assuming their network is limited to 3G...

[Q] Did I buy the wrong model? XT1064

Hello all,
I recently bought my wife and I new phones. I chose the US version of the 2nd Gen Moto G. This is model XT1064. We plan to use Consumer Cellular as it's cheaper than T-Mobile, but has all the features we need. Should I have bought the Global XT1063 model instead since Consumer Cellular uses AT&T's network? Obviously these are not LTE phones.
afremont said:
Hello all,
I recently bought my wife and I new phones. I chose the US version of the 2nd Gen Moto G. This is model XT1064. We plan to use Consumer Cellular as it's cheaper than T-Mobile, but has all the features we need. Should I have bought the Global XT1063 model instead since Consumer Cellular uses AT&T's network? Obviously these are not LTE phones.
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US model has Tmobile and ATT bands. Global model has ATT bands and 2G tmobile bands, (unless you are in a refarmed area)
if you are in ATT either one is good, dont be like me i bough the Globan and i was on ATT... had to change company(it was easier than returning the phone and getting the US one)
rolgar20 said:
US model has Tmobile and ATT bands. Global model has ATT bands and 2G tmobile bands, (unless you are in a refarmed area)
if you are in ATT either one is good, dont be like me i bough the Globan and i was on ATT... had to change company(it was easier than returning the phone and getting the US one)
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Ok, thank you for the reply. I seem to be missing something though. Why did you have to switch away from ATT if the global model is supposed to work with it?
We got the phones yesterday, and our SIM cards will be here today (wed). They shipped out of China on Friday and got here Tuesday, amazing. Compared to my droid HTC Incredible 1, this phones is big. I have them charged up, but haven't done anything with them yet. Our 32GB flash cards should be here today as well. I can't wait to see how well these phones work and what kind of signal we get in our home. Even if I have to go outside to make a call, I don't care. I'm just glad to be rid of the $160/month Verizon bill. It was an unlimited data plan, but we just don't use that much. 2.5GB shared should be plenty for us. If not, we'll switch to T-Mobile. Either way, it will still be a ton cheaper than what we were paying. I hope this phone holds up as good as the Incredibles did. I guess I'm officially old now since I'm switching to CC.
afremont said:
Ok, thank you for the reply. I seem to be missing something though. Why did you have to switch away from ATT if the global model is supposed to work with it?
We got the phones yesterday, and our SIM cards will be here today (wed). They shipped out of China on Friday and got here Tuesday, amazing. Compared to my droid HTC Incredible 1, this phones is big. I have them charged up, but haven't done anything with them yet. Our 32GB flash cards should be here today as well. I can't wait to see how well these phones work and what kind of signal we get in our home. Even if I have to go outside to make a call, I don't care. I'm just glad to be rid of the $160/month Verizon bill. It was an unlimited data plan, but we just don't use that much. 2.5GB shared should be plenty for us. If not, we'll switch to T-Mobile. Either way, it will still be a ton cheaper than what we were paying. I hope this phone holds up as good as the Incredibles did. I guess I'm officially old now since I'm switching to CC.
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Nono, i boguh the global model (the one without tmpbiles 3G band) and i was on tmpbile at that moment, so when i got the phone i changed to an ATT mvno called cricket wireless that works on atts tower signals.
rolgar20 said:
Nono, i boguh the global model (the one without tmpbiles 3G band) and i was on tmpbile at that moment, so when i got the phone i changed to an ATT mvno called cricket wireless that works on atts tower signals.
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Ok, I understand. Any reason you chose Cricket over Consumer Cellular? Is it because you use a lot of data? Cricket looks to be the best deal if you want a lot of data and only one line. I can't tell, but if you have two lines do you "share" the data allowance, or is it for each phone like t-mobile does. CC shares the data allowance and talk/text limits across all the phones so each additional line is only $10. If we start using a lot of data, we may switch to t-mobile or cricket, whatever is the cheapest to use for us. Right now we use less than 1GB/month between us, usually less than 500MB total per month. We don't text either or talk very much on the phone.
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Ok, I understand. Any reason you chose Cricket over Consumer Cellular? Is it because you use a lot of data? Cricket looks to be the best deal if you want a lot of data and only one line. I can't tell, but if you have two lines do you "share" the data allowance, or is it for each phone like t-mobile does. CC shares the data allowance and talk/text limits across all the phones so each additional line is only $10. If we start using a lot of data, we may switch to t-mobile or cricket, whatever is the cheapest to use for us. Right now we use less than 1GB/month between us, usually less than 500MB total per month. We don't text either or talk very much on the phone.
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where i live there was a promotion where you got 100 dollar credit when switching to cricket lol so i got the 35 dollar plan (15 dollar more than what i paid with tmobile) and i got 3 months paid, my family was on cricket already i was the only one that moved out but since it was bought by ATT i needed to see what was new on cricket, and i gotta say its good c: unlimited everything for 35 dollars
rolgar20 said:
where i live there was a promotion where you got 100 dollar credit when switching to cricket lol so i got the 35 dollar plan (15 dollar more than what i paid with tmobile) and i got 3 months paid, my family was on cricket already i was the only one that moved out but since it was bought by ATT i needed to see what was new on cricket, and i gotta say its good c: unlimited everything for 35 dollars
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Cricket looks to be a lot cheaper than T-Mobile around here. CC is the cheapest provider that I could find, but they nail you for overages. They now support LTE phones which is fairly new I think. They don't have any "unlimited" plans and you have to share your data/talk/text with everyone on the plan. They don't charge you anything for the SIM card though. Verizon seems to be the most expensive guys out there for family or single lines. Their coverage was good though.
afremont said:
Hello all,
I recently bought my wife and I new phones. I chose the US version of the 2nd Gen Moto G. This is model XT1064. We plan to use Consumer Cellular as it's cheaper than T-Mobile, but has all the features we need. Should I have bought the Global XT1063 model instead since Consumer Cellular uses AT&T's network? Obviously these are not LTE phones.
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As mentioned with T-Mobile YMMV depending on where your at, I use the Global Moto G 2014 for my business phone hooked up to T-Mobile and with my travels around I've been getting a good 8-10mbps upload and 2-3mpbs download speed with my phone usually being on H+ and in weaker areas 3G with Edge (2G) only rarely popping up when I'm deep in a data center or in the middle of a big concrete building.
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As mentioned with T-Mobile YMMV depending on where your at, I use the Global Moto G 2014 for my business phone hooked up to T-Mobile and with my travels around I've been getting a good 8-10mbps upload and 2-3mpbs download speed with my phone usually being on H+ and in weaker areas 3G with Edge (2G) only rarely popping up when I'm deep in a data center or in the middle of a big concrete building.
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Following up, man what an ordeal to get the data working. CC even sells this model of the phone now, and I could have bought from them for $30 less per phone ($150). Oh well, live and learn. I don't know if they are selling the US or the Global model though.
Didn't have any trouble getting the numbers transferred or getting the voice service to work. Even though data was "enabled" online in the account settings, the phones weren't connecting to the mobile data service. I didn't notice until I left the house for the day.
They are really nice and try to help, but first level support is lacking in technical expertise. They couldn't remotely configure it so I had to wait for second level help to save the day, more or less. They gave me some APN settings that got it limping along at about 512Kbps (yes that's bits per second) even though the phone showed H+ in the display. After spending a couple hours on google reading about APN settings, I was able to make some "adjustments" and get it moving at around 4Mbps down and about 300Kbps up. Certainly not LTE speeds, but usable nonetheless. I have no idea if MMS (whatever that is exactly) works or not, but the web is working now.
I really like the phone. It's way way faster than the Droid Incredible 1 that we had been using for the last 4 years. At 1/3 the cost per month, I can live with the data speeds.
EDIT: I just ran a speed test in good signal area and I'm getting 7.5Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up. I can definitely live with that. Not bad for H+ considering that most LTE users I know are getting pretty much the same here in Houston.
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Following up, man what an ordeal to get the data working. CC even sells this model of the phone now, and I could have bought from them for $30 less per phone ($150). Oh well, live and learn. I don't know if they are selling the US or the Global model though.
Didn't have any trouble getting the numbers transferred or getting the voice service to work. Even though data was "enabled" online in the account settings, the phones weren't connecting to the mobile data service. I didn't notice until I left the house for the day.
They are really nice and try to help, but first level support is lacking in technical expertise. They couldn't remotely configure it so I had to wait for second level help to save the day, more or less. They gave me some APN settings that got it limping along at about 512Kbps (yes that's bits per second) even though the phone showed H+ in the display. After spending a couple hours on google reading about APN settings, I was able to make some "adjustments" and get it moving at around 4Mbps down and about 300Kbps up. Certainly not LTE speeds, but usable nonetheless. I have no idea if MMS (whatever that is exactly) works or not, but the web is working now.
I really like the phone. It's way way faster than the Droid Incredible 1 that we had been using for the last 4 years. At 1/3 the cost per month, I can live with the data speeds.
EDIT: I just ran a speed test in good signal area and I'm getting 7.5Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up. I can definitely live with that. Not bad for H+ considering that most LTE users I know are getting pretty much the same here in Houston.
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I've been using the Moto G 2014 (XT-1063) with Consumer Cellular for about a month now and am very pleased with it. I think you will be quite happy. We have the 2 gig data plan (shared) and have no problem staying under the limit. We live in a rural area and the download/upload speeds are very good. The overall performance of this phone is fantastic. My wife has a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and this phone out performs it.
I found the APN settings for Consumer Cellular online two years ago, when I got my first smart phone (a Huaweii 8800), so it was just a matter of copying them over to my new phone. But I do know from experience that when you call their customer service, it is iffy as to whether you get a rep who knows the answer to your question.
MMS (Multimedia Message Service) deals with photos, video and audio that you include in a text message, as opposed to SMS (Short Message Service) which is text only. If you want to test its functionality, send somebody a text with a photo attached.
FYI - the model Moto G that Consumer Cellular sells is the first generation model, thus the lower price.
pastorbob62 said:
I've been using the Moto G 2014 (XT-1063) with Consumer Cellular for about a month now and am very pleased with it. I think you will be quite happy. We have the 2 gig data plan (shared) and have no problem staying under the limit. We live in a rural area and the download/upload speeds are very good. The overall performance of this phone is fantastic. My wife has a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and this phone put performs it.
FYI - the model Moto G that Consumer Cellular sells is the first generation model, thus the lower price.
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Ok, so you have the Global model then. Can you tell me what your APN settings are? I found that by clearing the first Proxy and Port fields, that my speed increased drastically along with response time.
FYI - CC actually sells the 2014 as a Moto G EXT, they just listed it this week. The 2013 sells for $100 and the 2014 goes for $150, no kidding. I wish I'd have waited a week before buying phones directly from Motorola. I could have saved $29 per phone by buying them from CC. I'd like to know what model CC is selling though, XT1063 or XT1064. I'm still wondering if I should have bought the XT-1063 instead since T-Mobile has already upgraded (refarmed?) their stuff in houston.
So far, I'm very happy with the Moto G 2014. It's a little big compared to my old phone, but I'm getting used to that. It still fits in my pocket. I wish it had a metal back instead of plastic, but it still looks and feels like a well made phone. Can't beat that Gorilla Glass for durability. My 4 year old HTC Droid Incredible still looks like brand new. I'm going to put a new battery in it and give it to my kid. I don't think it will work with CC since it's a CDMA phone, but Straight Talk says it will work with their service. It doesn't use a SIM card either. The HTC Droid Incredible was a fairly high end phone back when it was new. It even has an 8Mpixel camera in it.
afremont said:
Ok, so you have the Global model then. Can you tell me what your APN settings are? I found that by clearing the first Proxy and Port fields, that my speed increased drastically along with response time.
FYI - CC actually sells the 2014 as a Moto G EXT, they just listed it this week. The 2013 sells for $100 and the 2014 goes for $150, no kidding. I wish I'd have waited a week before buying phones directly from Motorola. I could have saved $29 per phone by buying them from CC. I'd like to know what model CC is selling though, XT1063 or XT1064. I'm still wondering if I should have bought the XT-1063 instead since T-Mobile has already upgraded (refarmed?) their stuff in houston.
So far, I'm very happy with the Moto G 2014. It's a little big compared to my old phone, but I'm getting used to that. It still fits in my pocket. I wish it had a metal back instead of plastic, but it still looks and feels like a well made phone. Can't beat that Gorilla Glass for durability. My 4 year old HTC Droid Incredible still looks like brand new. I'm going to put a new battery in it and give it to my kid. I don't think it will work with CC since it's a CDMA phone, but Straight Talk says it will work with their service. It doesn't use a SIM card either. The HTC Droid Incredible was a fairly high end phone back when it was new. It even has an 8Mpixel camera in it.
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Wow! That is interesting about CC selling the 2nd Gen now. I looked at their offerings before I bought my phone and they didn't have it yet thus I went with one from Amazon. No regrets though as I was ready to upgrade and I got a month's usage out of it before they offered it. My old phone was just too obsolete. The newest version of Android I could find in the custom ROM's was 2.3.8. There were several apps I wanted to use that are not compatible with it. CC is doing much better at staying up on more current phones. They now offer the iPhone 6 as well. We've been with them for four years and this year has been a dramatic difference with their offerings.
My APN settings are as follows :
Name - Consumer Cellular
APN - att.mvno
Proxy - Not Set
Port - Not Set
Username - Not Set
Password - Not Set
Server - http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMSC - http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS proxy - 66.209.11.32
MMS port - 80
MCC - 310
MNC - 410
Authentication type - Not Set
APN type - default,mms,supl,hipri
APN protocol - IPv4
APN roaming protocol - IPv4
Bearer - Unspecified
MVNO type - GID
MVNO value - 2AC9
My speeds are 6.98 mbps download / 1..23 mbps upload. I'm very happy with that.
pastorbob62 said:
Wow! That is interesting about CC selling the 2nd Gen now. I looked at their offerings before I bought my phone and they didn't have it yet thus I went with one from Amazon. No regrets though as I was ready to upgrade and I got a month's usage out of it before they offered it. My old phone was just too obsolete. The newest version of Android I could find in the custom ROM's was 2.3.8. There were several apps I wanted to use that are not compatible with it. CC is doing much better at staying up on more current phones. They now offer the iPhone 6 as well. We've been with them for four years and this year has been a dramatic difference with their offerings.
My APN settings are as follows :
Name - Consumer Cellular
APN - att.mvno
Proxy - Not Set
Port - Not Set
Username - Not Set
Password - Not Set
Server - http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMSC - http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS proxy - 66.209.11.32
MMS port - 80
MCC - 310
MNC - 410
Authentication type - Not Set
APN type - default,mms,supl,hipri
APN protocol - IPv4
APN roaming protocol - IPv4
Bearer - Unspecified
MVNO type - GID
MVNO value - 2AC9
My speeds are 6.98 mbps download / 1..23 mbps upload. I'm very happy with that.
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Yeah, I kinda wish I would have waited a week and gotten my phones from CC since they're so much cheaper through them. The savings would have paid for the 32MB SD card and a protector.
My settings are pretty much the same except that I have:
APN type - default,mms,supl,agps,fota
MVNO type - none and the MVNO value is greyed out
I've tried hipri, but it didn't seem to help at all. It's my understanding that fota allows for OTA updating. I guess agps tells the phone that it can get supplemental position information from the network, but I'm just guessing on that.
If I set MVNO type to GID, my specially named APN profile vanishes and I can't select it from the previous screen. I also see one named AT&T PHONE with an APN value of phone. I don't know what that one is for, but I do know it doesn't work if I select it.
My speeds are all over the place. I guess it's due to congestion. I can pick the same server that gave me 7.5Mbps and it gives me about 2Mbps from my home even with 4 bars of strength. I get the best speeds when I'm away from home for some reason. Well, except when WiFi is turned on then I get about 52Mbps down and 12Mbps up.

[Q] Maybe leaving T-Mobile for Sprint - What will I lose? or Gain?

Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.
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Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
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Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.
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Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.
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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.
Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.
I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.
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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.
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I had verizon wireless for 10 years and left them over a year ago for T-Mobile. I didn't regret anything. I didn't switch because of price because I could afford verizon, but their plans and phones suck and they are scam artists trying to rape every penny from you just like John Legere quoted. In my area and even in rural places in georgia I get pretty decent excellent coverage and service. At home I usually get from 80-112mbps down and 7-15mbps up. Verizon couldn't match that and hell, everyone I know that has sprint hate it and are jumping to T-Mobile because they get less than 1mbps and call quality sounds like pure ****. T-Mobile has nationwide VoLTE and WiFi calling and texting and the "Uncarrier" exclusives. I have unlimited data so I use it as my home internet since I have root for tethering unlimited data and its way faster than charters fastest speeds they deliver to my house lol. Sprint is also bad just like verizon because remember they are money hungry companies and they will lock u in contracts and can only use their cdma devices or select unlocked devices like the nexus 6. I heard verizon doesn't recognize the unlocked nexus 6, idk if that is true or not.
Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.
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I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.
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Although tethering is not supported, it does work.
There also would be no issue popping in a Cricket SIM in a Nexus 9. I've considered selling my WiFi N9 and getting a LTE N9 with a 20GB Cricket SIM.
metaphz said:
Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.
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Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.
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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April. Thanks though.
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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April.
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It did expire, someone is selling their account.
ourtech said:
Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.
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There is an app on the playstore if you have root called "WiFi Tether Router" which will work or if you want unlimited native tethering.
#1 in SQL lite go to /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db/global
#2 add " tether_dun required " and set the value to 0
#3 in your APN settings add " dun " to APN type and set your APN to IPv4 only since IPv6 doesnt support this.
Either use OpenSignal app or their site and zoom in on your neighborhood. They have a list of carriers with their average upload and download speed.
Personally I wouldn't use Sprint as OpenSignal and Rootmetrics has shown it is the slowest network across the country.
Get a AT&T GoPhone sim and try them out for a month. Walmart sells the sims. They now have rollover data on prepaid just like T-mobile. Plus they're not throttled like Cricket.
I wait for Callingmart to announce their monthly 10% off GoPhone refills on Twitter. Then refill each month saving me $6.
Just my 2ยข but I have been with Sprint for going on 8 years. Their service is great in my area (now) and their customer service has always been outstanding. While I do agree that they don't have the best coverage, they have come a long way in my time with them. You can get unlimited, TRULY unlimited data with them for a good price. They offer payment plans on the top devices and as I said, customer service has bent over backwards for me more than once. Choice is yours, OP, just do your homework and choose wisely.
I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.
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I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.
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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.
Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
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ceo4eva said:
Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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Good point. Hadn't thought about those. Thanks.
This morning my Speed Tests were decidedly better. At least 8 and as high as 12 meg. I haven't seen those numbers in months. So, (holding breath), perhaps my last call got something changed. I won't make changes unless I am sure there is no hope for change.
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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.
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Other than calling to activate new phones, I have only had to call once in all my years with Sprint and I have no complaints on it. I don't generally need service, I pay my bill and use my phone lol. As far as overseas call centers, that's not entirely true; there is a Sprint call center in my city (along with a T-Mobile call center). To each their own.
I switched from Sprint to Verizon as my family plan 4 years ago, best decision of my life. Sprint will frustrate you beyond belief with their slow data, you won't even be able to load Google. I know you said the big 2 cost too much, so I'd stay with T-Mobile if I were you, avoid Sprint at all costs. I personally love Verizon, have 5 off contract smartphones with them, 15GB shared data, and pay $153+tax a month.

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