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How deep are the blacks on the Galaxy Note compared to the S1/S2 ?

No this is not another one of those "I've got a screen issue" thread, For those who still have their Galaxy S1/S2 or even a Samsung Wave, how deep are the blacks on the Galaxy Note compared to them?
I ask this since I no longer have any other SAMOLED device aside from the G-Note and I noticed that the black levels are not very deep, infact they are like LCD's with backlit when you view an all black or watch a movie/picture with a good majority of blacks.
Can anyone be so kind as to test and compare in a dark room showing the phone stock test image found under *#0*# ( dialer ) I've been getting reports from other users that the black levels on the G-Note is not as deep as the S1 or S2, Trying to figure out if this is normal or some really bad gamma issue/hardware limits.
Since there has been a HUGE failure of people reading or understanding what this thread is, it is not a complaint thread its more of an inquiry thread on what you are getting with your screen. Those who dont have a previous SuperAMOLED device you guys cannot contribute anything on this thread since you wont have any basis of comparison so please stop trolling.

Darker than a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night.

Anyone else with a meaningful post comparing the S1/S2 vs the Note in black levels?

Like any other OLED technology, there is no backlight, so the blacks should be as black as if the screen were off.
What you might be noticing is fringing, the light leaking out from the neighboring pixels.
It could also be an optical illusion (you are seeing a black object with lighter surroundings it might make the blacks "not seem as dark"), I tested it myself, I got an opaque piece of paper with a small hole in it and placed it against a black part of an image, and compared it with the screen off. It looked the same to me.
I can't compare it with the S1 or S2 since I don't have them, but with as with any other OLED screen, as long as the black parts of the image is truly digitally black, as in that part of the picture is 000000 on the RGB color model, it should be equally black as if that part of the screen were off.

No difference in the black levels when they are properly rendered on the note vs gs2. The software bug though sometimes makes blacks grey so viewing the same video on both screens dark areas look better on the gs2. This will be fixed with an update and as others have said true black=off with oled so black will be black on any oled screen.
In gallery i get true blacks and images look the same on both screens apart from much bigger and sharper on the note. If i make this image a lock screen its sometimes grey with banding on the now instead of true black.
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Don't know about black, but the screen it's forkin bright, too bright for day time use even on the lowest setting

The Black arent 100% fully black. If you turn the lights lights of you can see some very very deep grey. It black enough tbh, I am not complaining!

rigurat said:
Like any other OLED technology, there is no backlight, so the blacks should be as black as if the screen were off.
What you might be noticing is fringing, the light leaking out from the neighboring pixels.
It could also be an optical illusion (you are seeing a black object with lighter surroundings it might make the blacks "not seem as dark"), I tested it myself, I got an opaque piece of paper with a small hole in it and placed it against a black part of an image, and compared it with the screen off. It looked the same to me.
I can't compare it with the S1 or S2 since I don't have them, but with as with any other OLED screen, as long as the black parts of the image is truly digitally black, as in that part of the picture is 000000 on the RGB color model, it should be equally black as if that part of the screen were off.
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lol wut?
If you have a phone with a SAMOLED screen go to a black room and bring up the LCD test menu, the black is at 000000 and you will see a faint glow, you can very easily tell if the screen is displaying a black color or if the screen is locked. Why websites say their testing machines report infinite contrast ratio is beyond me.
If you cant tell the difference of the screen displaying black and when the screen is locked ( off ) either you got the most absolute perfect screen or you need to actually check rather theory craft.
martcerv said:
No difference in the black levels when they are properly rendered on the note vs gs2.
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The main point of my question is not about "when rendered properly" just bring up the LCD test menu on your galaxy note and galaxy S2 and check if the note has a higher glow on its black levels. mine is extremely high from what I can remember on the Galaxy S2, infact I can label it an an LCD backlight instead of SAMOLED blacks. But if im in daylight the blacks are pretty good.
sharp910sh said:
The Black arent 100% fully black. If you turn the lights lights of you can see some very very deep grey. It black enough tbh, I am not complaining!
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Its not about complaining, I just wanted to ask for those who have the note and also have the S1/S2 to make a comparison if the black levels are similar.
Im at a loss as to why this feat is extremely hard for the people who replied on the thread so far, I guess I am asking to much.

No one has the S2 and S1 and the galaxy note. why would they? the note is amazing!

Galaxy Note black has more leak than previous Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus screens.
I'll come up with measurements a bit later.

well, Kabayan i have both... i can confirm your finding that S2 does have deeper blacks... last night i viewed the Dota2 trailer video on S2 and Note side by side... @ the beginning of the clip where there are lots of black displayed, its noticeable in my eyes...
I decided to create a pure black wallpaper on photoshop, transfer it to S2 and Note, set both brightness @ max, go to the complete dark room and view the mentioned wallpaper on gallery; its positive that S2's dsplay shows deeper black than Note... Though i have the display tuning app by SUPERCURIO on my S2 which i think we'll also consider...
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Good to hear from you SUPERCURIO... its always a breath for us having you here... So, can we expect some fix? hehehehhe... More power...

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lol wut?
If you have a phone with a SAMOLED screen go to a black room and bring up the LCD test menu, the black is at 000000 and you will see a faint glow, you can very easily tell if the screen is displaying a black color or if the screen is locked. Why websites say their testing machines report infinite contrast ratio is beyond me.
If you cant tell the difference of the screen displaying black and when the screen is locked ( off ) either you got the most absolute perfect screen or you need to actually check rather theory craft.
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An OLED display works without a backlight. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays (LCDs). In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD, whether the LCD uses either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight. Due to their low thermal conductivity, they typically emit less light per area than inorganic LEDs.
When the display is "showing" black, the "black pixels" are actually inactive. In other words, the black parts of the screen is off.
The black levels on my screen is also 100% black. If i go into a dark room with a 100% black wallpaper, i won't see the screen.

I have an S1, S2 and Note. Showed all 3 at Samsung service centre just to prove the Note's screen was crap. Should be getting it back to day with a new screen. The S1 screen still seems the best in terms of brightness and uniform white.

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Galaxy Note black has more leak than previous Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus screens.
I'll come up with measurements a bit later.
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Yay supercurio. It's good to see you.
It does have more light leak on pure blacks, but coming from an Atrix (LCD) and an S2 (WVGA), I still love this display the most. The resolution is insane.
afadzil21 said:
I have an S1, S2 and Note. Showed all 3 at Samsung service centre just to prove the Note's screen was crap. Should be getting it back to day with a new screen. The S1 screen still seems the best in terms of brightness and uniform white.
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Did you happen to get a photo of it?

I compared both with a clear black test screen from walvisions.com min and max brightness blacks where the same to me. I must have a perfect screen or you have a very bad one.
But like i said in my previous post the blacks when actualy in use watching a dark video are much better in the gs2 for what i think is a software issue as they arent rendered properly and dark areas tend to look more like backlit lcd on the note when viewing videos.
Whites are much brighter on the note with min brightness settings then on the gs1.
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BazookaAce said:
An OLED display works without a backlight. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays (LCDs). In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD, whether the LCD uses either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight. Due to their low thermal conductivity, they typically emit less light per area than inorganic LEDs.
When the display is "showing" black, the "black pixels" are actually inactive. In other words, the black parts of the screen is off.
The black levels on my screen is also 100% black. If i go into a dark room with a 100% black wallpaper, i won't see the screen.
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It is not true, you really should try it before just quoting wikipedia or whichever website that quote came from. Even with a perfectly black image you can easily tell there is backlight.

supercurio said:
Galaxy Note black has more leak than previous Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus screens.
I'll come up with measurements a bit later.
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The first meaningful post which also aims to be objective rather than quoting specs.
jaytana said:
well, Kabayan i have both... i can confirm your finding that S2 does have deeper blacks... last night i viewed the Dota2 trailer video on S2 and Note side by side... @ the beginning of the clip where there are lots of black displayed, its noticeable in my eyes...
I decided to create a pure black wallpaper on photoshop, transfer it to S2 and Note, set both brightness @ max, go to the complete dark room and view the mentioned wallpaper on gallery; its positive that S2's dsplay shows deeper black than Note... Though i have the display tuning app by SUPERCURIO on my S2 which i think we'll also consider...
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Thank you for confirming, at least someone managed to read through my post and actually perform something.
BazookaAce said:
An OLED display works without a backlight. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays (LCDs). In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD, whether the LCD uses either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight. Due to their low thermal conductivity, they typically emit less light per area than inorganic LEDs.
When the display is "showing" black, the "black pixels" are actually inactive. In other words, the black parts of the screen is off.
The black levels on my screen is also 100% black. If i go into a dark room with a 100% black wallpaper, i won't see the screen.
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This shows me what you know and how much visual acuity you have when it comes to things like this, I mean no disrespect or in anyway be offensive to you but I dont believe that its 100% black on your end. But I respect your opinion. Thank you.
afadzil21 said:
I have an S1, S2 and Note. Showed all 3 at Samsung service centre just to prove the Note's screen was crap. Should be getting it back to day with a new screen. The S1 screen still seems the best in terms of brightness and uniform white.
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Very true, the S1 screen was really great.. it really brought the expectation level at an all time high.

There's a lot of variation on the screens we are getting, my Galaxy Note screen has no color variation, banding, dead pixels, and the blacks are real black. In a dark room, displaying a black image, I can't see the limit between screen and plastic bezel. Exactly as with the screen off.
The same with video playback. I recommend to use BBC One Human Planet trailer in HD. It has a lot of colors and transitions to black screens. I see the screen completly back, no difference to the black plastic bezel.
This is a black Galaxy Note, on a black background displaying a mostly black image. Brightness set to maximum.
Now you tell me you can see the limit between SAMOLED screen and plastic bezel

vcespon said:
There's a lot of variation on the screens we are getting, my Galaxy Note screen has no color variation, banding, dead pixels, and the blacks are real black. In a dark room, displaying a black image, I can't see the limit between screen and plastic bezel. Exactly as with the screen off.
The same with video playback. I recommend to use BBC One Human Planet trailer in HD. It has a lot of colors and transitions to black screens. I see the screen completly back, no difference to the black plastic bezel.
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No color variation is plausible, banding is SW issue so nobody is excepted from it unless you can prove it, dead pixels are pretty rare that its a non issue, black levels are lit let yours eyes adjust to the darkness for 3~5mins and you can clearly see a lit black its always been like that since the SGS1 days, your phone is no exception.
Your screen is perfect for you, I respect that and Im very happy for you, wish I had that screen. Cheers!
Response to your added image:
Your image proves nothing since the discussion is about black levels in total darkness while displaying the black image from the LCD test, your picture shows an image displayed making an illusion that the blacks are very deep, I also get the same black levels when im displaying even just a few pixels of white and you have ambient light since I can clearly see the bezel.
Basically we are comparing 2 different things but thank you for trying.

EarlZ said:
black levels are lit let yours eyes adjust to the darkness for 3~5mins and you can clearly see a lit black its always been like that since the SGS1 days, your phone is no exception.
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Seriously who uses a phone like that and whats the point of that test. OLED does show a little light in the dark when you do that but my GS2 and note are pretty much the same, during this test I notice some darker blotches on my gs2 screen. Does that mean its faulty? not to me as Ive never noticed it in real use and thats what the device is for not to sit in the dark for 3 minutes to find some obscure issue to complain about.
There are real screen defects that will occur to some people not matter what device you get, then get it replaced. There are confirmed software issues and these will hopefully be addressed soon enough.
Many more people have no physical issues with their screens then the ones that do but its funny how some people just wont accept that and have to believe every screen is faulty.
Seeing a little light through a screen in total darkness is not a hardware fault, maybe you should turn off your phone as it will save your battery and at the same time the screen will be perfectly dark, I prefer to have my screen on and use it but we all use our devices differently

backlight uniformity

I've had my N7 for a week and a half now, and there is only one flaw: I have a 1.5cm dark band down the right side of the screen. It's only really noticeable on white or solid pale colours, so for videos and games it's fine but it's a little distracting when reading black on white.
I have only the slightest amount of backlight bleeding round the edges, even under extreme conditions (ie. full brightness in dark room,) no dead pixels, no ghosting, no issue with washed out colour. So I'm just wondering if it's worth getting a return or just waiting to see if it evens out a bit.
I haven't found any mention of similar issues on the forum, so I'd like to ask how people are finding the uniformity of the display?

same problem
I have the same defect.
How did you resolve? Did you get a replacement?
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I've had my N7 for a week and a half now, and there is only one flaw: I have a 1.5cm dark band down the right side of the screen. It's only really noticeable on white or solid pale colours, so for videos and games it's fine but it's a little distracting when reading black on white.
I have only the slightest amount of backlight bleeding round the edges, even under extreme conditions (ie. full brightness in dark room,) no dead pixels, no ghosting, no issue with washed out colour. So I'm just wondering if it's worth getting a return or just waiting to see if it evens out a bit.
I haven't found any mention of similar issues on the forum, so I'd like to ask how people are finding the uniformity of the display?
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I think I might have the same problem. But with mine it only shows after having the screen off for a while, and it slowly fades to normal after the screen warms up.
So far what I have done is have all dark themes so I dont see it anymore. Have tried to refit the cables inside and using pixel fixer apps, none had worked.
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Nexus4: Bright Pixels

Hey guys,
I already mentioned this in the German thread, however it may concern a couple of more people.
I just received my replacement. The reason I ordered one was I got 2-3 tiny little bright spots close to the top right corner on the display. Exactly they are located on the opposite side of the back camera. These pixels are brighter than all others. Though the spots are very tiny you can notice them e.g. if I look closely at the Google search bar on your home screen. It's not that they are disturbing me but I feel on a new device there should not be such issues. You never know how far this is going to get.
So, the today's device is made in Jan 2013 and it has the same spots. I want to ask if anyone of you has the same issue. Just download a pixel test app ( e.g. Dead Pixel Test by Ossibus Software) and look at that area at different angles and colors. I attached a picture to get a better feeling of what I mean.
Max

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me_max said:
Hey guys,
I already mentioned this in the German thread, however it may concern a couple of more people.
I just received my replacement. The reason I ordered one was I got 2-3 tiny little bright spots close to the top right corner on the display. Exactly they are located on the opposite side of the back camera. These pixels are brighter than all others. Though the spots are very tiny you can notice them e.g. if I look closely at the Google search bar on your home screen. It's not that they are disturbing me but I feel on a new device there should not be such issues. You never know how far this is going to get.
So, the today's device is made in Jan 2013 and it has the same spots. I want to ask if anyone of you has the same issue. Just download a pixel test app ( e.g. Dead Pixel Test by Ossibus Software) and look at that area at different angles and colors. I attached a picture to get a better feeling of what I mean.
Max
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Sometimes it is better not to go looking for these tiny flaws as often we find them.
LCD panels do have flaws, and a certain number will leave the factory with some broken pixels, some good information here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_pixel
Some applications claim to fix these pixels by flashing the screen with lots of colours, and they seem to work for some people, typically however the pixels are intermittently broken and would have probably just started working anyway!
Manufacturers of LCD panels let a certain amount of screens through with broken pixels simply because otherwise they would be throwing too many away and so their cost would be considerably higher.
I'm not sure if yours are broken pixels however. How are you seeing these? If you are cranking the brightness up to full and viewing a dark colour you can often see tiny pin holes of light, and this is just tiny flaws in the filters which are so thinly applied tiny breaks happen, which you wouldn't see in typical use. You'll never find a screen 100% perfect if it is this you are seeing.
What do you see if you have a dark black background and the phone on normal brightness? Pixels stuck in the "on" position would be very clearly visible. On a white background stuck "off" pixels would be clearly visible, either by showing a tiny black dot, or typically a dot of a different colour.
If you can't notice them in typical use, just don't go looking for them :good:
If they are stuck pixels you have been unlucky, and the only option is another RMA.
Regards
Phil

Had a "hot pixel" almost in the same place as yours when I got the phone is December. RMAed it and the replacement is looking good now.

PhilipL said:
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Sometimes it is better not to go looking for these tiny flaws as often we find them.
Regards
Phil
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This is good advice. My last 4 phones (captivate, atrix, gnex and N4) all had some kind of defect with the screen. Captivate had slight burn in, atrix and gnex had black spots that can be seen with brightness on lowest in dark room and my N4 has minor screen bleed under the camera.
Its not hard to find problems with LCDs if you look close enough but none of the defects i had could be seen with normal usage so i didnt bother to return them. There is a chance that you will get a replacement with worst defects not to mention all the hassle of having to do a rma. But then again this is xda where people freak out when they see a scratch on the screen.

PhilipL said:
I'm not sure if yours are broken pixels however. How are you seeing these? If you are cranking the brightness up to full and viewing a dark colour you can often see tiny pin holes of light, and this is just tiny flaws in the filters which are so thinly applied tiny breaks happen, which you wouldn't see in typical use. You'll never find a screen 100% perfect if it is this you are seeing.
What do you see if you have a dark black background and the phone on normal brightness? Pixels stuck in the "on" position would be very clearly visible. On a white background stuck "off" pixels would be clearly visible, either by showing a tiny black dot, or typically a dot of a different colour.
If you can't notice them in typical use, just don't go looking for them :good:
If they are stuck pixels you have been unlucky, and the only option is another RMA.
Regards
Phil
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Thanks, mate.
When it's black I only see light bleeding from the top. Therefore, they are not dead. I believe, during the manufacturing process a layer behind the the pixel gets damaged. I filed for another replacement. However, I don't think it'll get better.

Getting A Note 4 next month need feedback Screens

Hello, Guys I planning on getting a Note 4 next month do you guys have any problems with your screens
like Light bleed,Dead Pixels,stuck pixels and dust under screens.
I had a bad experience with Apple phones been through 7 iPhone 6 all had Dead/stuck pixels and dust
Had enough with LCD Screens hoping AMOLED screens are problem defect free.

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Flashvetrin said:
I have a decent case (tech21) and screen protector to match(tech21) N4 zero issues..
Screen looks nice.. still dark in the sunlight.. but what screens arnt...
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How about reading a post prior to answering ?
Now for my answer: No pixel defects, no stuck pixels, no dust at all.
And of course no light bleeding - this is AMOLED, thus no backlight.

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This screen is awesome no complaints here

Thanks, Guys for quick reply cannot wait to get the Gold colour.

Mine had dust under the display glass.
3 or 4 pieces all over the screen each about 0.5-1 millimeter in diameter.

Screens don't get any better on Earth.
Saying that, I have a G906S (5.2" 2560*1440 AMOLED) which had exploded pixels... you could only see it on white backgropund but 3 pixels were mushed up which left a kind of black smoke smudge.
Bcos the ppi is highest for the G906S you could only see the mushed up pixels under a microscope, but the black smoke smudge was plainly visible.
Here look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ner-thread-t2807639/post55172467#post55172467

Visible pixels

Just noticed that I can visibly see the LED pixels on the screen.. Anyone else have this happen after having the phone for a bit?

It's 493ppi so seeing 1 OLED pixel seems out there even for most people. I have 20/10 vision correct with contacts and I can't see them even if I try. Maybe if I had a dead pixel I could see it, but normally I can't see anything.

My display looks like Christmas tinsel

born_fisherman said:
My display looks like Christmas tinsel
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Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.

Pilz said:
Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.
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I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.

born_fisherman said:
I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.
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I didn't have that issue on my first Nexus 6 but I did have a camera issue. My second one is excellent no issues so far. I had my first one for 7 weeks before I had to RMA it.

I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.

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I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.
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That's how it is when I use Mt wife's S5 it's almost annoying because I can see them sometimes when I didn't used to. That started after having my G3 for the past 7 months

So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?

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So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Yes that's correct.

born_fisherman said:
So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.

obsanity said:
Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.
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My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?

born_fisherman said:
My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?
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So are you talking about seeing pixels when the screen is on or when the screen is off?
The die of the pixel arrangement will be visible under certain angle in just the right light when the screen is off.
Also, screen protectors can cause this to be amplified for sure. It all depends on the quality of that screen protector.

This characteristic is just one of those things you have to put up with when you're dealing with resolution cheating samsung crappy pentile amoled displays. I was hoping that the QHD would be enough to overcome the pentile, but that doesn't seem to be entirely the case for some.
At least (if tmo ever decides to actually ship it) it won't be as bad as my last cheating samsung amoled... a 4" 800x480.
I figured going into this, that the display would be pretty crappy. Too big, and amoled pentile... but after suffering with non-nexus devices for a few years (last one was a "nexus zero" -- ADP1...), I just don't feel like fighting with the thing, so fact of being a nexus > crappy display.