There are a lot of cool watch faces I'd like to have on my new LG R, but it seems that standby mode does not show animation with any Facer or WatchMaker faces. Is this a known problem? I'd really like to use some analog faces but can't really since the second hand is always motionless.
In standby face is only updated once every minute to save power.
I guess Moto 360 works fine in this regard then... I wonder why there are also faces made especially for LG too with this problem. Lazy devs I guess.
It's not a problem, but by design, to save battery.
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If your using watch maker you can edited the watch face and select the second hand to only be displayed in bright/on mode, thus it won't appear motionless in standby mode.
Maybe not what your after but it won't look as out of place as a motionless second hand.
phil gpx said:
If your using watch maker you can edited the watch face and select the second hand to only be displayed in bright/on mode, thus it won't appear motionless in standby mode.
Maybe not what your after but it won't look as out of place as a motionless second hand.
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Actually this was just what I was after, I didn't see that this was possible with watchmaker. A very good solution, thank you very much!
Your welcome. I also put a black circle over top of nearly all my watchfaces i download and set it at about 70-80% transparency and set it to dimmed only as i find the dim mode is often brighter than the on mode.
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Since Android Wear has the screen on all the time, and the Gear Live is AMOLED wouldn't burn in be an issue? the galaxy gears on display at retail stores have a bit of a burn in problem.
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Since Android Wear has the screen on all the time, and the Gear Live is AMOLED wouldn't burn in be an issue? the galaxy gears on display at retail stores have a bit of a burn in problem.
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From what I've read, the watches are "always on" in the sense at the screen stays on, but the lighting is turned off. So instead of having to refresh the UI every time the watch is seen, it just turns the light on. Similar to a backlight for a laptop. Display models are usually always lit so they burn in due to the display being lit 24/7.
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From what I've read, the watches are "always on" in the sense at the screen stays on, but the lighting is turned off. So instead of having to refresh the UI every time the watch is seen, it just turns the light on. Similar to a backlight for a laptop. Display models are usually always lit so they burn in due to the display being lit 24/7.
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As far as I am aware, AMOLED has no backlight...that's sort of the point...every pixel "burns" individually.
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As far as I am aware, AMOLED has no backlight...that's sort of the point...every pixel "burns" individually.
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I said similar because not everyone is familiar with the way AMOLED's work. But the same thing occurred at his Best Buy as would any modern portable display, device is constantly lit, and resulted in burn in.
I'm sure the user has an option to turn off the display if they choose to.
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they also have dark mode and dim (holding palm over the screen) don't they?
hopefully there'll be something within all this to prevent issues.
Only LG G Watch has "Always-on" display, Gear Live and Moto 360 have a button to turn it on and yes in the Setting you have an option to adjust the brightness.
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Only LG G Watch has "Always-on" display, Gear Live and Moto 360 have a button to turn it on and yes in the Setting you have an option to adjust the brightness.
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After watching like, 40 videos, I'm pretty sure that they all have always on. The button on the Gear Live and the 360 are to act as a physical way of turning off the display entirely as LG allows by covering it with your palm. But yeah, from what I've seen, the Gear Live goes into the same low power greyscale mode that the G Watch goes into, and both support wrist flicking to activate the display.
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After watching like, 40 videos, I'm pretty sure that they all have always on. The button on the Gear Live and the 360 are to act as a physical way of turning off the display entirely as LG allows by covering it with your palm. But yeah, from what I've seen, the Gear Live goes into the same low power greyscale mode that the G Watch goes into, and both support wrist flicking to activate the display.
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I did watch about 40 videos too lol and LG G Watch was the only advertised as "screen always on" as Gear Live has Super AMOLED display and even greater resolution than LG G Watch so the Gear Live would burn out in matter of hours.
LG G has 400 Mah battery, IPS display and lower resolution so it can withstand being "always-on" for at least 36 hours as advertised.
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I did watch about 40 videos too lol and LG G Watch was the only advertised as "screen always on" as Gear Live has Super AMOLED display and even greater resolution than LG G Watch so the Gear Live would burn out in matter of hours.
LG G has 400 Mah battery, IPS display and lower resolution so it can withstand being "always-on" for at least 36 hours as advertised.
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Except, you know, on the official Google page, and in the videos that I've seen, the screen also just times out to a low power, black and white screen (referring to the Gear Live). Super AMOLED is more power efficient in idle / dark screens due to the nature of individual pixel lightning, so I don't really understand what you mean by the Gear Live would burn out in a matter of hours (they should be relatively the same from what I can tell).
Always on = standby (i.e low brightness, dark screen). It does not mean full brightness, always coloured watch face. No way in hell. If that was the case, why would the displays time out in what appears to be 5-10 seconds?
Yeah.. I'm going to wait on conclusive battery testing before making my purchase. I've got like a week anyways, might as well.
Also, I'm legitimately concerned about screen burn in now, given the nature of AMOLED.
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Except, you know, on the official Google page, and in the videos that I've seen, the screen also just times out to a low power, black and white screen (referring to the Gear Live). Super AMOLED is more power efficient in idle / dark screens due to the nature of individual pixel lightning, so I don't really understand what you mean by the Gear Live would burn out in a matter of hours (they should be relatively the same from what I can tell).
Always on = standby (i.e low brightness, dark screen). It does not mean full brightness, always coloured watch face. No way in hell. If that was the case, why would the displays time out in what appears to be 5-10 seconds?
Yeah.. I'm going to wait on conclusive battery testing before making my purchase. I've got like a week anyways, might as well.
Also, I'm legitimately concerned about screen burn in now, given the nature of AMOLED.
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i've been concerned about screen burn in from time to time as well (most recently with the gnex). but then i realized it is highly unlikely i'll have the device for long enough to achieve burn in and/or notice
I've been playing with my Gear Live for a couple of days, so here's what I can tell :
- The screen is "Always On" by default, which means it will get dimmer and switch to a black background on most watch faces (and for AMOLED, black means "off").
- You can set it to turn off completely.
- In order to dim it (or turn it off depending on the settings) you can either wait, cover the screen with your hand, or use the physical button... The button is not really practical and seems to serve absolutely no purpose since you can use the screen.
- I haven't noticed any burn-in at all yet
- I think I noticed that from time to time the facewatch (I'm using the one with the digital hour in the center and analog minutes, I think it's called "digitalog" ) switches a few pixels to the right or to the left. My guess is it is to prevent burn in, I know most plasma TVs do that too.
- I had a Galaxy S2 for several years before switching to a Nexus 5, and yes, the toip of the screen where the notification bar usually is was burnt-in (or rather I think the whole screen was burnt except for this black bar). It was noticeable on full screen apps but never bothered me. Even if it happens on the Gear Live I can't see it bothering me... It's not like I'll be watching movies on it...
So my guess is you should be fine... But if you're really worried you can always disable "Always On".
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I've been playing with my Gear Live for a couple of days, so here's what I can tell :
- The screen is "Always On" by default, which means it will get dimmer and switch to a black background on most watch faces (and for AMOLED, black means "off").
- You can set it to turn off completely.
- In order to dim it (or turn it off depending on the settings) you can either wait, cover the screen with your hand, or use the physical button... The button is not really practical and seems to serve absolutely no purpose since you can use the screen.
- I haven't noticed any burn-in at all yet
- I think I noticed that from time to time the facewatch (I'm using the one with the digital hour in the center and analog minutes, I think it's called "digitalog" ) switches a few pixels to the right or to the left. My guess is it is to prevent burn in, I know most plasma TVs do that too.
- I had a Galaxy S2 for several years before switching to a Nexus 5, and yes, the toip of the screen where the notification bar usually is was burnt-in (or rather I think the whole screen was burnt except for this black bar). It was noticeable on full screen apps but never bothered me. Even if it happens on the Gear Live I can't see it bothering me... It's not like I'll be watching movies on it...
So my guess is you should be fine... But if you're really worried you can always disable "Always On".
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How is the battery though? Think you can get through a solid day with heavy notification flow? That's all I really care about.
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- I think I noticed that from time to time the facewatch (I'm using the one with the digital hour in the center and analog minutes, I think it's called "digitalog" ) switches a few pixels to the right or to the left. My guess is it is to prevent burn in, I know most plasma TVs do that too.
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I have a Gear Live, and can confirm this is true. I've seen it on multiple watch faces.
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Except, you know, on the official Google page, and in the videos that I've seen, the screen also just times out to a low power, black and white screen (referring to the Gear Live). Super AMOLED is more power efficient in idle / dark screens due to the nature of individual pixel lightning, so I don't really understand what you mean by the Gear Live would burn out in a matter of hours (they should be relatively the same from what I can tell).
Always on = standby (i.e low brightness, dark screen). It does not mean full brightness, always coloured watch face. No way in hell. If that was the case, why would the displays time out in what appears to be 5-10 seconds?
Yeah.. I'm going to wait on conclusive battery testing before making my purchase. I've got like a week anyways, might as well.
Also, I'm legitimately concerned about screen burn in now, given the nature of AMOLED.
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I own a Gear Live and can confirm that it does indeed have an always on display (which can be toggled from settings) that dims to gray scale when not in use just like the G Watch.
At the same time I can also confirm that having my watch now just around 3 weeks has already showed some very minor signs of burn-in. Typically when in apps or settings. As I said though its very minor and not really noticeable unless you're looking for it. That said though it is there.
Also to clear up battery life the Gear Live can withstand 36hours of always on screen. While I typically charge my watch each night I have tested it and can get it to run from one morning through to the following night before the battery reaches 5%. This is with the Always-on display option enabled.
Are you guys leaving the screen on all night when you're sleeping? I know its not lit up all the way but like the dimmed version of the screen. Like I'm using the simple clock. You think its okay to leave that on all night? I'm thinking it'll be okay cause it'll gradually change over night so it's not technically sitting on one time for 7 hours.
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Are you guys leaving the screen on all night when you're sleeping? I know its not lit up all the way but like the dimmed version of the screen. Like I'm using the simple clock. You think its okay to leave that on all night? I'm thinking it'll be okay cause it'll gradually change over night so it's not technically sitting on one time for 7 hours.
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I am a little worried about burn in myself so I turn the device off at night when I charge it. Even though the pixels should shift with the default watch faces I just think it's a safer bet to power it off.
I prefer to leave my watch face off until I look at it. The problem is that the accelerometer on this watch isn't always as sensitive as you might like (probably to prevent accidental activations). Unfortunately this means that if you have your wrist on the desk and then look at the watch, sometimes the face will not activate.
What I have found though is that if you give your wrist a slight rotational flick towards yourself as you raise your arm, the screen activates much more reliably.
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I prefer to leave my watch face off until I look at it. The problem is that the accelerometer on this watch isn't always as sensitive as you might like (probably to prevent accidental activations). Unfortunately this means that if you have your wrist on the desk and then look at the watch, sometimes the face will not activate.
What I have found though is that if you give your wrist a slight rotational flick towards yourself as you raise your arm, the screen activates much more reliably.
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Has anybody else noticed that the watch face does not light up when you raise the watch if it is in mute mode?
You can switch the screen on by pressing the button or touching the screen but raising your arm doesn't do it.
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Has anybody else noticed that the watch face does not light up when you raise the watch if it is in mute mode?
You can switch the screen on by pressing the button or touching the screen but raising your arm doesn't do it.
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Thats why you can Mute the Device, i like this option (allways good when i bring the Baby to bed)
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Thats why you can Mute the Device, i like this option (allways good when i bring the Baby to bed)
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I agree - it is neat.
I had expected mute to stop alerts and cards popping up but hadn't realised that it would stop activation as described and when I first noticed it, I thought that my watch was faulty. Posting details here in case anyone else thinks the same!
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I prefer to leave my watch face off until I look at it. The problem is that the accelerometer on this watch isn't always as sensitive as you might like (probably to prevent accidental activations). Unfortunately this means that if you have your wrist on the desk and then look at the watch, sometimes the face will not activate.
What I have found though is that if you give your wrist a slight rotational flick towards yourself as you raise your arm, the screen activates much more reliably.
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I have the exact same observations as well .. in fact, if the watch has been idle for some time,even with the slight rotational flick, I find that the screen will not be activated.
I found some custom watchfaces were *much* slower and often took two wrist-flicks to get the watch to wake up.
I found stock faces and also better 3rd party faces avoided that problem.
YMMV
Ahh .. i AM using Facer and Custom watchfaces ... perhaps the graphics are slowing down the watch ..
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I found some custom watchfaces were *much* slower and often took two wrist-flicks to get the watch to wake up.
I found stock faces and also better 3rd party faces avoided that problem.
YMMV
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zhix said:
Ahh .. i AM using Facer and Custom watchfaces ... perhaps the graphics are slowing down the watch ..
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Keen to hear your findings - as it happened, I was using a Facer face but I suspect that it wasn't facer but the watch face itself.
Hello.
Is there any possibility to get working seconds hand in dimmed mode.
Every watchface which i've tried have not working seconds hand/display in dimmed mode.
Additionally minute hands sometimes "hangs" for about 2-3 minutes which resulting showing wrong hour.
I assume that this is some kind of power saving feature but it is very annoying when watch shows for eg. 11.59 and real time is 12.02 :/
Is there any fix for this?
Edit the watch face and you can include whatever you want. You will need a face from Facer or WatchMaker or Intellicom.
I did't make my point clear. I have watchface which have secconds hand in dimmed mode, but it stops moving as soon as watch goes into dimmed mode.
It's a power saving feature. The screen refresh is slowed down to 1 frame per minute in dim mode, so you cannot have seconds displayed. Also the cpus are being slowed down a lot during that period as well as the sensors. The only sensors that is being probed during the dim mode are the gyroscope and the touchscreen.
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It's a power saving feature. The screen refresh is slowed down to 1 frame per minute in dim mode, so you cannot have seconds displayed.
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Is there any way of changing this, by changing maybe kernel or someting ?
If you build your own custom ROM, of course you can do whatever you want.
Your battery will suffer though.
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If you build your own custom ROM, of course you can do whatever you want.
Your battery will suffer though.
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it's a pity because i don't know how to do that.
So for me, there is no solution
Big thanks.
You still can use a custom watchface (like watchmaker/facer) and extend the time for the active mode. Still, why would you do that?
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You still can use a custom watchface (like watchmaker/facer) and extend the time for the active mode. Still, why would you do that?
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do you know how to change the time for the active mode in facer or wherever?
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Hello everyone,
I noticed a strange behaviour when G Wath R goes into the "dimmed mode".
After some time, no rule how long, while the "dimmed mode" is on, the watch face kind of skips a few pixels in rather random direction. When you wake the watch the face goes back to the center.
This happens on any watch face (stock or 3rd party).
Attached photos show how the face went a little to the right and down - 1st: centered, 2nd: moved.
Anyone else got this issue?
Any cure?
Thank you.
It's not an issue but a feature. It's designed that way so no single pixel is stuck displaying the same color all the time and so helps prevents the screen burn-in that happens on every OLED screen.
It doesn't 100% prevents (with that watchface for example I don't think it's gonna do much good) it but it's a lot better than nothing.
Here is some info about burn-in protection.
Spere said:
Here is some info about burn-in protection.
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Thank you all for the info. I was unaware of this.
FYI this can be turned off by changing 1 to 0 in this line in build.prop:
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ro.ambient.burn_in_protection=1
Thanks.
I recently purchased a new Galaxy Watch 3, coming from my trusty Gear S3. One thing that is annoying me to no end is this "Screensaver" feature when the watch goes to sleep while an app is open. Pretty hard to describe so here is a video with a side by side comparison between the Watch 3 and my Gear S3.
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Both watches have the exact same watch face. Notice that when the Watch 3 goes to sleep while on anything but the Watch face, it switches to this stupid Digital screensaver. The net effect of this is that 90% of the time when the screen is in "always on" mode it uses this stupid screensaver instead of my chosen watchface.
I should not that I am using a custom WatchMaker watch face.
Is there anyway to disable this "feature" so that it behaves like the S3?
I noticed the same! I expect it is because of the too small battery. Its not always on exactly, its always on to a Screensaver.
Would be nice to be able to change it...
Same here. I'd like to kill this "feature", i.e. when timed out revert to the "Always on" watchface, not the default screensaver.
Mine does this too, but falls back to the Watch Face AOD after about 20 secs. I think it was actually designed this way to allow you to go back to the screen you were on before the screen saver was triggered, by pressing the top button.
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Mine does this too, but falls back to the Watch Face AOD after about 20 secs. I think it was actually designed this way to allow you to go back to the screen you were on before the screen saver was triggered, by pressing the top button.
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Mine doesn't fall back to AOD watch face at all. It can stay all day on the "screensaver watchface". That's what I'd like to switch off.
Reducing the time, but still not a fix
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Mine doesn't fall back to AOD watch face at all. It can stay all day on the "screensaver watchface". That's what I'd like to switch off.
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I'd love to get rid of this screensaver watch face as well, however, as others have mentioned, for me it also goes away fairly quickly. In your Galaxy Wearable app, if you go into "Display", what setting do you have under "Show last app". Mine is currently set to "When screen turns on again within 20 seconds". Unfortunately, there is no "off" for this, and 20 seconds is the minimum. If you have this set higher (e.g. to 1hr) I wonder if you'd see what you are seeing.
Regardless, if anyone figures out how to disable this, I'd love to know as well!
Same issue here. It is annoying. Following.
Same problem coming from the Galaxy Watch to the Watch3. Following hoping for a solution.