[Q] Nexus 6 ROM/kernel porting possible? - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Need to upgrade from a Nexus 4 due to its sluggish performance and just bad experience in general. This is basically the only phone in my price range with guaranteed instant Android updates, but the only thing stopping me is the lack of custom ROMs and kernels. I understand you guys like having the closest-to-stock experience and don't fancy custom ROMs and kernels, but is porting ROMs and kernels from the Nexus 6 a possibility? I'd love to get one, but $649 is way too steep for me especially with the atrocious camera for the price. In addition, from now to Saturday the no-contract Moto X is $100 off on Moto's site. Sadly the offer doesn't include Nexus 6...

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What made YOU choose Nexus 4?

What made you choose this device instead of others? Will you select your next smartphone based on the same criteria or do you care more about some other spec?
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The reason I chose my N4 was that it was a nexus device with awesome specs and a great price... U can't get a better bang for the buck phone.
My next phone has to be top end in specs and also at a good price point compared to the competition... Idk of it'll be N5 or X phone but I don't think I'll get rid of my N4 regardless
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Clean android, photosphere and updates. Hardware whatever, I dont feel any big performance difference when using s3, note 2, s4, nexus 4 etc ...
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Mainly the specs and price, similar specs unlocked cost 600$+
Also I had a Galaxy ****phone with 2010 specs
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pure google experience and match it with my nexus 7. both have nexus logo at the back. i like my stuff in-sync. haha. also, apps are designed mainly to match the stock look, so having the dev phone is awesome. less problem thinking on why this app not working/supported cuz dev use nexus mainly.
plus its cheap. and design rocks!
I needed some more performance since my HTC Incredible S got a bit slow with only one core. I didn't want to spend 200 € more for a branded interface that I would replace with another ROM anyway. With the N4 I have great performance, solid quality and a clean ANdroid which I don't have to replace keeping my warranty.
Just ordered a black N4 (don't get the white phone craze). My faithful Nexus S no longer meets my needs. My main reasons for the 4 are:
Unlocked
A Nexus device, so hopefully will have current updates for a while
Good price, extra features of S4 not important to me, especially for almost twice the cost
Only thing I don't like is the screen size. 4" screen perfect for me, kept holding out for a top end 4.3" android. And yes, I've used bigger phones. After I saw the S4 mini specs I gave up, guess I'll get used to it. Anyhow, given I wear reading glasses now its probably a good thing?
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Price and just how rubbish Sony were at supporting the Xperia S threw me over the edge.
Former Verizon user. Saw the price of the N4. Knew I'd make my money back within 4 months after switching to T-Mobile. Broken contract. Win.
I came from the LG G2X and all I wanted was a damn OS update. With the only update the G2X ever received being a whopping 2.3 to 2.4 I decided I'd stay away from non nexus devices the best I could. The build quality from LG is pretty nice, good balance between appearance and hand feel so I never once questioned that the N4 would be the perfect phone for me. What do I look for in a phone? Top tier performance and the quickest OS updates.
2gb ram for this awesome price
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In this order:
1. Unlocked
2. Nexus
3. Top flight phone for $350, how could you resist?
Loving it on straight talk. I love the phone almost as much as the fact that my bill is half what it was before.
One of my main reasons for choosing the N4 is knowing this phone will get updates for a long time from google but others are:
Build quality.
Price point for a unlocked phone.
Amount of development.
AOSP
Price (seriously, extremely great value)
Customization, Google WANTS you to flash new ROMs and stuff to this device
I'm an aspiring Android developer (currently a .NET developer)
The sleek look
Came from iPhone 4, my only other smartphone I've ever owned. Basically debated whether to get the Nexus 4 or SGS4, thank god I went with Nexus 4. Had to switch from Verizon, but well worth it. No more Verizon red tape to deal with ever again, or any contracts.
Stories said:
Former Verizon user. Saw the price of the N4. Knew I'd make my money back within 4 months after switching to T-Mobile. Broken contract. Win.
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If you arent on a contracted plan with T-Mobile, unless you are on the $30 plan with no minutes, consider one of the MNVOs. Im on Straight Talk after trying T-Mobile for a bit and the service is IDENTICAL. However, the bill from unlimited plan to unlimited plan isnt.
Cheap and decent specs. That's all.
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Johmama said:
AOSP
Price (seriously, extremely great value)
Customization, Google WANTS you to flash new ROMs and stuff to this device
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This.
After flashing cm7, then cm9 and 10 on my Fascinate, I realized AOSP is how Android phones are supposed to be. I love the clean interface, speed and smoothness and stability. My phone after that was the Gnex, so naturally I upgraded to the next nexus. I know there are AOSP roms on a ton of other phones, but the reliability seems to be perfected on the nexus devices, since they are built for AOSP. Also, there is a huge amount of developer support.
needed something after my N9 and really didn't want to go back to a locked down phone.
I bought the N4 due to the price, pure android and the ability to enable LTE on T-Mobile. I couldn't be happier coming from Sprint. It's a night and day difference.

[Q] Is the Moto X "unlocked T-mo" a good choice for me?

I have been interested in the Moto X ever since the release late last year and now its at such a great price... But I must ask everyone that has already made the jump, is this device what I am looking for?
At the moment I have a Galaxy S3 through At&t loaded up with CM 10.1.3 and to be honest I am happy with the phone... but am becoming more anxious for a upgrade each day, mostly due to the abysmal battery life and non-support for things I like *wallet*.
Anyways needless to say I am about ready to upgrade to something fresh and new. I am choosing to go unlocked because AT&T is offering a discount towards customers who do not take up a subsidized plan.
Naturally I checked out the Google Play edition phones and the Nexus line first, I was hoping the X would be among their ranks, after all google did own motorola up until a week ago. However all they had was the Moto G which was is the lower end sibling to the X.
So thats when I started really digging in and when I found out motorola actually sells unlocked phones through their site. The T-mobile one being the best choice because you can unlock the bootloader and it still supports at&t fully in the USA. The only other option would had been the GSM developer edition, but I would have to forgo any customization for very little benefit in the end.
But I am sitting here wondering to myself... is now a good time to get a new phone, is this the right choice, would this phone make me happy for at least a year and half?
My largest concern with this phone is its future, how much longer can/will motorola support updates for the X? Will we see the next version of android come to this device before its antiqued by motorola? If it is shelved, is the community broad enough to provide quality unofficial updates that will offer a wonderful experience?
I mean when I look at the development section just for the AT&T galaxy S3 there is numerous ROM's several of them being official groups like CM and AOKP. But then when I checked the CM site for the T-Mobile Moto-X there is nothing, it is literally blank, is it because they don't believe the Moto X yet needs CM to fill in the gaps, or is it because they have no interest in supporting it at all?
I would pick a Nexus 5, given it is guaranteed fast updates, but the Moto X just seems like a better fit for me. I love the idea of the anywhere handsfree google now, the style of the phone just looks better, and it is stock-enough for my needs.
I guess ultimately these are my biggest questions.
1. How future-proof do you guys think this is, at least update wise? Since CM does have a page for the Moto-X does that mean they will support it eventually? The phone is widely regarded and to my knowledge quite popular, I dont see why the carrier-locked boot loader would stop CM when it didn't for other handsets.
2. What is battery life like? Given alot of you have probably had the phone for a few months, hows the battery life now, is it degrading badly?
3. Overall would this be a good upgrade coming from a GS3?
4. Should I save up and get a Nexus 5 or another google play device?
5. Is it a good time to upgrade? Or should I wait a month or two?
6. How is the camera? Is it really much worse than the GS4, IP5S, and Nokia Lumina camera's?
7. Does it support google wallet? Does it lack support for any other apps on the play store?
Lastly, how is the support for accessories? I would like to get a Pebble eventually and I have a few bluetooth stereos. Does the Moto X support most of these without issue?

Why do you want a nexus 6?

What is your reason for wanting a nexus 6? My reason is I want a device that delivers the full experience. I dont want to carry around more devices than i need to. I believe the nexus 6 can be my everything device for mobile. I wanted this after using a oneplus one for a little while. I really liked the big 5.5 inch screen and started to use my iPad less and less after getting it. All i keep thinking was if this was a little bigger and the resolution was a little bigger to match, it would be perfect. Well here came the nexus 6 with a 5.96 inch 1440p screen. I have a nexus 4 and have been loving it except the battery and the camera. So far from the hands on people are saying the camera and battery are better. Also the reception should be better than the oneplus on At&t. The nexus 6 looks big i hear it feels good in your hand and it is a beast with performance. After hearing this I immediately sold my iPad and my oneplus one. I am ready to carry around one device for all my mobile needs. I have big hands so i welcome the size.
What about you?
Android L which in turn means fast updates
Premium Nexus device (internal specs, big screen, front facing speakers, build quality, etc)
I need a good smartphone (currently using a temporary budget phone)
I think it's (one of) the best phones available
I want one for the Chip,native lollypop, size and cause I love my Nexus 5 experience so much that I run GPE on my HTC ONE M8 at&t model .oh and cause I just have to have multiple devices to keep me busy
AT&T HTC ONE M8
My last 11 phones have been Samsungs. I'm looking forward to zero lag.
My Nexus 4 has been showing its age lately in the battery department. I would be lucky to get 3 Hours SOT with the crazy battery. Plus if I reboot the phone in the middle of use my battery goes from 90% to 70% which drives me crazy.
While I know the N6 will not be the end all solution to my Battery life issues, I believe its no better time to upgrade since I skipped over the N5 in favor of this. Plus I am not wholly confident that the Next Generation Nexus devices will be viable for me if they end up becoming the first generation consumer ARA hardware. Something I would preferably like to avoid a year with until they can hammer out issues and wait out until the second generation hardware releases (2016-2017 release).
If* I can get my hands on a nexus 6 then I want one because of how easy nexus devices are to root, unlock and modify. and also because the device looks beautiful and has the specs to drool over. And of course pure stock android.
I too am currently using a budget phone(Optimus F6 anyone? haha) and can't wait for an upgrade.
I'm so tired of being on the outside looking in to the N5 community. Great ROM options, first available updates, and great Devs. Plus who know when we will see another Nexus device compatible with crappy VZW.
I bought the Galaxy Note 2 at launch, then upgraded to the Note 3 at launch. I loved both devices because I go crazy for hardware specs. I've never used a Nexus device before, but on both of my Notes, I realized that I mostly use AOSP custom roms... maybe about 90% of the times (I usually switch up custom roms every month), there's maybe one of two TouchWiz roms that I liked, but all the other ones were always always AOSP (or AOKP, close enough). Now that Google has decided to join the spec race, I for one am VERY VERY happy that the Nexus 6 is so expansive. You Get What You Pay For!!
The Nexus 6 won me over the Note 4, the specs are so incredibly similar it's ridiculous!
So yeah, Nexus 6, I wantz for all the amazing custom roms that will be available on this type of device with such incredible power hosted inside! Can't wait!
Tomorrow is another Play Store restocking days!! spam spam spam spam! lol
iZack187 said:
I bought the Galaxy Note 2 at launch, then upgraded to the Note 3 at launch. I loved both devices because I go crazy for hardware specs. I've never used a Nexus device before, but on both of my Notes, I realized that I mostly use AOSP custom roms... maybe about 90% of the times (I usually switch up custom roms every month), there's maybe one of two TouchWiz roms that I liked, but all the other ones were always always AOSP (or AOKP, close enough). Now that Google has decided to join the spec race, I for one am VERY VERY happy that the Nexus 6 is so expansive. You Get What You Pay For!!
The Nexus 6 won me over the Note 4, the specs are so incredibly similar it's ridiculous!
So yeah, Nexus 6, I wantz for all the amazing custom roms that will be available on this type of device with such incredible power hosted inside! Can't wait!
Tomorrow is another Play Store restocking days!! spam spam spam spam! lol
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I went iPhone s2, s3, nexus 4, oneplus, and now my 6 is preordered. I can't wait to get my hands on it. There are so many different rooms that always come out for the nexus devices. Now with the hardware the 6 has I can't wait for some amazing new roms to come out.
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If* I can get my hands on a nexus 6 then I want one because of how easy nexus devices are to root, unlock and modify. and also because the device looks beautiful and has the specs to drool over. And of course pure stock android.
I too am currently using a budget phone(Optimus F6 anyone? haha) and can't wait for an upgrade.
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Good luck this Wednesday. I got my preorder last week.
Its the motorola nexus that we all thought would never happen. like Rossi going to ducati. I lust hope the phone works better then the ducati. Oh and there is the fact that my g3 is a lag beast. I pick up my wifes g2 and remember what a phone should run like sadly .
Screen size, fast charging, front facing speakers, lollipop and the fact that I have Jump and wouldn't get my monies worth if I don't use it.
Paranoid Android, the end.
Because Nexus, that's why
Cuz I can.
My reason is simple: screen size! Otherwise, I would keep the Z3
Official support and the dev community. And my Note 2 is dying.
I want one because I can't buy one...
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Good luck this Wednesday. I got my preorder last week.
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sadly I am at work during the time they add stock(between 10 and 10:30) so i doubt i will get one tomorrow either.
After switching to the N5 from the iPhone 4, I liked the screen and eventually I realised I used it more than the tablet that I had and because of that a bigger phone would be the perfect one device for everything.

Nexus 6 or Moto X Pure?

What are your opinions regarding the Nexus 6 vs the Moto X Pure? Which do you think will be future proof? Does anyone know if either of these can do simultaneous talk and web browsing on Verizon?
I know nexus 6 on Verizon cannot surf web over lte and talk at the same time. Semi-obviously you can still talk and browse over WiFi.
Before Nexus 6, I tried moto x 2013 dev edition... And to be honest it paled in comparison to the community support of nexus 6. Not sure if it is the same on the newer pure models.... But on the dev edition you could not downgrade the got or boot portions, and very few unofficial updates were provided by community. People largely just ran stock with xposed, afraid to fastboot stuff for fear of bricks, and with little to no ROMs because no one wanted to loose the stock framework, and xposed does everything.
Was not a very good environment for tinkering and learning tbh. Nexus has many more possibilities.
MotoX wins for stock features though, nexus ambient display pales in comparison to the 2013 moto x.
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I know nexus 6 on Verizon cannot surf web over lte and talk at the same time. Semi-obviously you can still talk and browse over WiFi.
Before Nexus 6, I tried moto x 2013 dev edition... And to be honest it paled in comparison to the community support of nexus 6. Not sure if it is the same on the newer pure models.... But on the dev edition you could not downgrade the got or boot portions, and very few unofficial updates were provided by community. People largely just ran stock with xposed, afraid to fastboot stuff for fear of bricks, and with little to no ROMs because no one wanted to loose the stock framework, and xposed does everything.
Was not a very good environment for tinkering and learning tbh. Nexus has many more possibilities.
MotoX wins for stock features though, nexus ambient display pales in comparison to the 2013 moto x.
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Nexus 6 can do simultaneous voice and data on Verizon if have VOLTE enabled. All new Motos on Verizon are the same.
VOLTE appears to lead to a lot of dropped calls if you live in or travel to areas with poor 4G support from what I've read. Is that correct? That is why I never enabled in when I had my S6. Does Google still release updates for the older devices such as the Nexus 5? Just wondering how Google is to older Nexus devices.
Never had a moto x phone but I believe this one does boil down to user choice more than specs. I'm going with the whale though
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I had a pure..after 4 replacements I went w the nexus and ill never look back
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I would switch to the Moto X Pure Edition and probably will when it is released. I really like the Nexus 6 but the Moto X has one thing I really want: a microSD card slot.
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I had a pure..after 4 replacements I went w the nexus and ill never look back
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It was released a couple of days ago, you had 4 replacements in those days? Highly unlikely
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It was released a couple of days ago, you had 4 replacements in those days? Highly unlikely
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This new moto x isn't the first one labeled as the pure edition. Simmer down some
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Does Google still release updates for the older devices such as the Nexus 5? Just wondering how Google is to older Nexus devices.
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All Nexus phones down to Nexus 4 (2012) received updates to LMY48I (5.1.1). Nexus 5 got update to MPA44I (6.0). So, yes Google takes care of older devices.
So anybody have anymore thoughts on moving from a Nexus 6 to the new Motorola Moto X Pure 2015? I'm still thinking about it but I'm wondering which is better for customization with ROMs/rooting. If anyone has any thoughts on anything between the two phones, please share. Thanks guys.
Not sure how it is now.... But 2013 moto x dev edition you couldn't ever downgrade, meaning you couldn't ever try out an upgrade with out being stuck.
This, combined with everyone not wanting to loose stock features meant no one did anything but run xposed. I think its going to be hard to beat nexus if your main thing is customization.
I'll be selling my Nexus 6 and getting the new moto pure. Its a no brainer for me.
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I'll be selling my Nexus 6 and getting the new moto pure. Its a no brainer for me.
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What are you reasons for selling your Nexus 6 and getting the new moto? Have you heard about modding/customization at all? Thanks.
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What are you reasons for selling your Nexus 6 and getting the new moto? Have you heard about modding/customization at all? Thanks.
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I don't care much for modding/customization. Just root is fine with me so I can use adaway and my android tools.
SD card slot is a huge plus with me since I have so many photos/videos on my phone, I take an extreme amount of photos and I like having a lot of music for the gym.
I haven't tested it myself, but I do expect a better camera.
I myself prefer the natural colors of a LCD display than amoled.
Front facing speakers are pretty much the same which is a plus and the screen size isn't much different.
I love my nexus 6 don't get me wrong. But the moto pure better suits my needs than this phone. Processing power won't be much different or noticeable and I'm cool with that.
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Im hoping someone can find out if there will be any modding options for the new moto x. Anybody else, please chime in. Thanks.
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Im hoping someone can find out if there will be any modding options for the new moto x. Anybody else, please chime in. Thanks.
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What modding options exactly are you looking for? Custom ROMs? Unlocked bootloader will set you free
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What modding options exactly are you looking for? Custom ROMs? Unlocked bootloader will set you free
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Yes, just wondering if custom ROMs will be available for the new moto x. I figured the bootloader would be unlocked. But just wondering if it's worth giving up my nexus 6 for. Thanks.
I was in the same situation a week ago Pure X vs N6, the new nexus arent all that appealing to me the Huawei is god ugly the N5X looks nice but with midrange specs (will pick one up if its on carrier subsidy though for the GF), if you dont need the SD Card, dont take an extreme amount of Pics, and don't mind AMOLED then the N6 is a very good buy right now, they're dropping in price you can get a 64 gb for 339 now, and 32gb under 300... The pure x starts at 399 for a 16gb model... any customizations you add will add to the cost...the newer SoC isnt worth the extra 200 or so if you dont need the SD Card and Camera.. The Pure X will have decent amount of dev since it can be unlocked (btw unlocking the BL on the Pure X voids warranty since its technically not a Dev edition) but nothing ever beats a Nexus in regards to developemt/custom roms etc.. I chose to save 200 dollars and came back to the Nexus 6.
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I was in the same situation a week ago Pure X vs N6, the new nexus arent all that appealing to me the Huawei is god ugly the N5X looks nice but with midrange specs (will pick one up if its on carrier subsidy though for the GF), if you dont need the SD Card, dont take an extreme amount of Pics, and don't mind AMOLED then the N6 is a very good buy right now, they're dropping in price you can get a 64 gb for 339 now, and 32gb under 300... The pure x starts at 399 for a 16gb model... any customizations you add will add to the cost...the newer SoC isnt worth the extra 200 or so if you dont need the SD Card and Camera.. The Pure X will have decent amount of dev since it can be unlocked (btw unlocking the BL on the Pure X voids warranty since its technically not a Dev edition) but nothing ever beats a Nexus in regards to developemt/custom roms etc.. I chose to save 200 dollars and came back to the Nexus 6.
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Great info, thank you!!!! I don't take alot of pics anyway and I think the AMOLED screen is a little better far as color, pure colors that is. And yes I got my Nexus 6 64 gb for $350 sent to me so I do like it. Just thought I might trade up but I'm definitely thinking about keeping the Nexus, just wanted to see someones thoughts on customization of the new moto x. Thanks again. Anybody else wants to share, please do.

Recommend me a phone

Hoping y'all can save me the headache of doing some initial research and rec me a good phone for someone who likes to install custom ROMs ,etc.
I like to buy flagship or near quality refurbs 2 or 3 years after release, something around or under $150, like new.
Need to be able to unlock bootloader, have good xda community support a plus. Fancy camera not necessary.
Previously had early s-series, nexus, pixel xl, pixel 2. S-series was great, nexus had tons of support.
The pixel 2 was verizon variant tho. Looking to avoid similar situation so I'm leaning away from google phones, tho I'd consider it if it fits the bill since I have Google fi and the nexus got good mileage.
Been looking at Samsung devices. They've just got so many of them, need a rec. Thanks.
Js1pxl112 said:
Hoping y'all can save me the headache of doing some initial research and rec me a good phone for someone who likes to install custom ROMs ,etc.
I like to buy flagship or near quality refurbs 2 or 3 years after release, something around or under $150, like new.
Need to be able to unlock bootloader, have good xda community support a plus. Fancy camera not necessary.
Previously had early s-series, nexus, pixel xl, pixel 2. S-series was great, nexus had tons of support.
The pixel 2 was verizon variant tho. Looking to avoid similar situation so I'm leaning away from google phones, tho I'd consider it if it fits the bill since I have Google fi and the nexus got good mileage.
Been looking at Samsung devices. They've just got so many of them, need a rec. Thanks.
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