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Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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but... but material... and ART...
j/k, honestly I'm waiting to try it mostly because of the lockscreen notifications and the status bar changing colors (lol)
and honestly in the Moto G WhatsApp group I noticed that mostly indians are super hyped for Lollipop, for some weird reason
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I guess lots of white and wasted ui space is the in thing right now. That along with lengthy animations. I am sorry to say this but take a look at the XDA website forums on pc you will understand what I mean.
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Exactly!
me_ankit said:
I guess lots of white and wasted ui space is the in thing right now. That along with lengthy animations. I am sorry to say this but take a look at the XDA website forums on pc you will understand what I mean.
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:good: I hear ya! Exactly my point. So I will stay on Kit-Kat and avoid Lollipop. I am hoping somebody will develop a nice Kit-Kat based custom ROM and/or kernel that will allow overclocking. I'm not an Android developer so I am not able to do so. But I am really quite happy with things as they are so I won't lose any sleep over it.
Thanks for your feedback.
I have to admit I was pretty excited for Lollipop but with some of the developments over the past few days such as the, IMO, inferior lockscreen (having to swipe to input the pattern/PIN) it's put a slight dampener on it, I'm still going to upgrade but I'm not going to rush first day it comes out.
And just found out they have removed the Normal, Vibrate and Silent toggles when you long press the power button, that's annoying!
Yup as you guys said, we Indians sure are excited. I'm just speaking for myself here, and not generalizing, but I do love the new design of Lollipop. IMO, KitKat had a very boring, flat design, which I always used to cover it up with some CM Themes with my old mobile. Whereas the new design gives a breath of fresh air to the OS, which I think Android greatly needed.
As for ART, what you feel or see is mainly just placebo on kitkat. In a sense I really don't think it makes much difference with 4.4.
Disclaimer: I maybe wrong here. Just quoting my experience.
So in short the OS is new, the design is beautiful and a complete overhaul, some new awesome features that weren't available on stock before, and other minor tid-bits are basically the reason why we, a bunch of android nerds (i'm saying this in a positive way) are excited when a new OS gets released.
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Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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The Moto G 2014 has no custom ROMs out for it yet. We were stuck with the boring, rooted stock. We couldn't use a theme to make it look something like Lollipop. Instead, we used GravityBox.
Customs ROMs give much more than GravityBox since GravityBox cannot fulfill most of the things we all like about customs ROMs. Lollipop fixed a good amount of the small problems we had with stock 4.4.4; along with a new design and fluent animations. So we all hopped on the Lollipop train because there were no custom ROMs.
Now, had there been PA available for the Moto G 2014, I would have waited until there was a Lollipop version of PA.
well said!! We lack development and thus lollipop will give us a refreshed look...
I dont know, why do we still lack the much needed developments
However, on a bright note. take a look at the moto x 2014 dev section.
Much barer and scarce then here. lol
So Im not much disappointed xD
I'm most interested in projct volta. Read a test these days about lollipop on nexus 5, they increased screen on time about nearly 30 %. Not bad in my opinion...
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The Moto G 2014 has no custom ROMs out for it yet. We were stuck with the boring, rooted stock. We couldn't use a theme to make it look something like Lollipop. Instead, we used GravityBox.
Customs ROMs give much more than GravityBox since GravityBox cannot fulfill most of the things we all like about customs ROMs. Lollipop fixed a good amount of the small problems we had with stock 4.4.4; along with a new design and fluent animations. So we all hopped on the Lollipop train because there were no custom ROMs.
Now, had there been PA available for the Moto G 2014, I would have waited until there was a Lollipop version of PA.
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I agree that custom ROM development is totally lacking with this phone. But I disagree that Lollipop fills any void. As far as Lollipop fixing any problems , I guess that is based on one's own experience and I have not had any problems at all with 4.4.4. That is my whole point, Lollipop does not bring enough of ANYTING to inspire me to upgrade. I don't find 4.4.4 boring at all, I don't have any "problems" running it or using any of the apps I need, and it is very fast and responsive for me.
All of that said I do realize that we all use our phones in different ways that may make Lollipop appealing to many. It just isn't all that for me. Hopefully some motivated developers will come up with some decent custom ROM's for Kit-Kat. But until that happens I am sticking with the stock version I am currently running.
I've got Lollipop on my Moto G and I'm not particularly impressed.
-Unlocking takes longer.
-Pandora lockscreen controls are gone.
-Lockscreen notifications are not what I hoped for. If I get one text it will show some information about the texts. If I get 3 texts it just says I got 3 texts. So I have to unlock the phone anyways, and that takes longer.
-App-specific notification settings don't seem to work. I keep getting daily Subway Surfer notifications even though I turned them off.
-I DO like how the lockscreen camera controls are implemented.
Overall lollipop is meh for me. I guess some Android fanbois are like some Apple fanbois. They can't wait for the next thing that Google/Apple gives them, no matter what it is.
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I've got Lollipop on my Moto G and I'm not particularly impressed.
-Unlocking takes longer.
-Pandora lockscreen controls are gone.
-Lockscreen notifications are not what I hoped for. If I get one text it will show some information about the texts. If I get 3 texts it just says I got 3 texts. So I have to unlock the phone anyways, and that takes longer.
-App-specific notification settings don't seem to work. I keep getting daily Subway Surfer notifications even though I turned them off.
-I DO like how the lockscreen camera controls are implemented.
Overall lollipop is meh for me. I guess some Android fanbois are like some Apple fanbois. They can't wait for the next thing that Google/Apple gives them, no matter what it is.
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Okay, this I didn't read in any of the reviews.
-So only pandora lockscreen controls are gone or even play music?
-Hmm, and so we can't even expand those notifications? Maybe there's a setting for it? I don't know lol
-Well I'm sure this bug will get solved....hopefully
Anything else you didn't like?
pastorbob62 said:
Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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I agree with some of your points here, but to be honest for me it isn't lollipop that is lacking it is the Moto g, deep in my heart i love this device (mainly because of the battery life) but i don't think i can bare the 1 Gb of memory anymore and lack of development, i think the Nexus 5 got way more improvements and that's where all the excitement is coming from. The Nexus 5 was plagued with bad battery life and sub-par camera, audio latency was still bad (well this was a whole Android thing), etc and lollipop solved that. I think most of the excitement you are hearing is people with Nexus 4s and 5s, also a lot of new api's for developers. Yes there are things Google was retarded on removing, i'm hoping they listen to the community and add them back in 5.0.1. Oh and for what it is worth, for me certain apps on my Moto G would stutter like going into menus etc, like Tinder for instance on lollipop the stuttering is completely gone also i have more free ram and i think the battery life improved a little bit more.
[edit] Okay i take back what i said, i just headed over to the Nexus 5 forum and a lot of negative reviews too. I don't know, i don't really have no complaints of it on the G just wish i had more memory, but i knew what i was getting myself into.
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I agree with some of your points here, but to be honest for me it isn't lollipop that is lacking it is the Moto g, deep in my heart i love this device (mainly because of the battery life) but i don't think i can bare the 1 Gb of memory anymore and lack of development, i think the Nexus 5 got way more improvements and that's where all the excitement is coming from. The Nexus 5 was plagued with bad battery life and sub-par camera, audio latency was still bad (well this was a whole Android thing), etc and lollipop solved that. I think most of the excitement you are hearing is people with Nexus 4s and 5s, also a lot of new api's for developers. Yes there are things Google was retarded on removing, i'm hoping they listen to the community and add them back in 5.0.1. Oh and for what it is worth, for me certain apps on my Moto G would stutter like going into menus etc, like Tinder for instance on lollipop the stuttering is completely gone also i have more free ram and i think the battery life improved a little bit more.
[edit] Okay i take back what i said, i just headed over to the Nexus 5 forum and a lot of negative reviews too. I don't know, i don't really have no complaints of it on the G just wish i had more memory, but i knew what i was getting myself into.
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The memory issue is a big one for many folks, but I haven't seen any problems (so far) in the six weeks I've had my phone. I don't foresee it becoming a problem since the way I use doesn't tax the memory limits. The most demanding app I use is Hay Day, and it runs quite well. It does crash on occasion but it also crashes on my wife's Galaxy S-4, her TF-700 tablet and my TF-300T tablet as well, so that's an app issue not a device limitation. And I am extremely pleased with the phone performance. It is much improved over my previous phone.
But I can see how the memory would make a difference for many people. And if Lollipop helps then that is a good thing. However, it seems that we are giving up a lot to gain a little.
I was happy with JB & still like it. KK is a little better & I enjoy running it. However I don't care much for L. I tried hard to like it. It has a few features I liked but over all I didn't care for it. I think it is ugly for one & the bugs in 5.0 was driving me crazy.
I went back to KK for now.
I only hope that Lollipop helps bring some development to this phone, because it is really lacking and that is starting to make me want to sell it.
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I only hope that Lollipop helps bring some development to this phone, because it is really lacking and that is starting to make me want to sell it.
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I understand your frustration with the lack of development. Overall I am happy with my phone on stock Kit-Kat with it unlocked and rooted. I am able to remove some of the bloat which helps a lot. But it would be nice to see a custom ROM that allows overclocking and tweaking of the system to improve stability.
As it stands, I will stay with Kit-Kat and not upgrade to Lollipop. I have read way too many complaints about it, and as I said earlier, when I tried it on my tablet I was not at all impressed.
I'm one of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" kinda guys and once I get comfortable with something, I am always hesitant to change it. This is the reason why my original Moto X is still on 4.2 and why my Nexus 5 is staying on 4.4.4. Kit Kat runs great on my N5, and does everything I need it to do. I don't like having to deal with bugs in new software, and also don't like having to relearn things that I am already proficient in.
Another huge and probably the biggest reason why I am staying on Kit Kat is the lack of Xposed for Lollipop. I absolutely NEED to have the ability to toggle expanded desktop/ immersive mode on and off, and I also like to have my navbar shrunken to 65% height. There are a few other tweaks that I do here and there, but those are the main things that I cannot do without.
My battery life is great (4.5 hrs SOT average), and everything is butter smooth for me. Sure, Lollipop looks great, but after playing with the developer preview with MultiROM, there just isn't anything compelling me to update. So, I am staying on 4.4.4 for the forseeable future. I might update my 2014 Moto X, but I am still undecided.
So, who else is sticking with Kit Kat? What are your reasons?
I'm waiting for an F2FS-compatible ramdisk. I'm in no rush.
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everything is butter smooth for me
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Lollipop is even smoother, its piss smooth i tell ya!
Thats great @_MetalHead_ if u dont want to change .. Lollipop did broke compatibility of few apps i use..other than that its worthy upgrade .. Just need time to let the developers make full use of newer APIs...that will actually unleash the full capabilities of the os...
I made a clean flash to lollipop and i am in no way making a clean flash again ...
However only reason i MAY go back to KitKat is that i hate white ui ...painful to eyes
I wonder if there were people like this who stayed with Gingerbread when Ice Cream Sandwich came out.
Im actually quite torn myself. While everything overall seems good *knock on wood * im allready missing the ability to have widgets on the lockscreen. In my case i preffered the chronus clock with weather compared to the stock one. Im also unsure about all this white as i prefer a dark keyboard.
Just waiting for my favorite Rom to get updated to 5.0 before switching. Meanwhile I stay on 4.4.4 super stable Rom as some incompatible Apps get updated on Play Store as well.. Hopefully..
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Im actually quite torn myself. While everything overall seems good *knock on wood * im allready missing the ability to have widgets on the lockscreen. In my case i preffered the chronus clock with weather compared to the stock one. Im also unsure about all this white as i prefer a dark keyboard.
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You can still have the original keyboard look. There are 4 themes to choose from.
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I wonder if there were people like this who stayed with Gingerbread when Ice Cream Sandwich came out.
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Like what? In my case, I'd have to format my sd card back to ext4 to upgrade, then format to f2fs when a compatible kernel becomes available. I'd rather do a total wipe just the one time.
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Like what? In my case, I'd have to format my sd card back to ext4 to upgrade, then format to f2fs when a compatible kernel becomes available. I'd rather do a total wipe just the one time.
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I have no idea what that means. An external SD card?
Lolly is butter smooth for me and no problems, so I'm going to use it. No way I could go back to 4.4
I am on kit Kat but not by choice
I like 8 unlock slider targets, Volume button wake , etc.....
I hope all of those KK features come to custom L soon..
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You can still have the original keyboard look. There are 4 themes to choose from.
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I didnt realize that. Do you have to install the keyboard app from Google play? I cant find it in setting.
When Xposed Framework or a similar tech comes out for Lollipop - I'm in.
For now, I'll pass
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I didnt realize that. Do you have to install the keyboard app from Google play? I cant find it in setting.
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The default keyboard IS the keyboard from Google Play. The option is in settings/language and input/google keyboard/Appearance and Layouts/Theme.
Thanks. Seems like I either forgetting how to do all this stuff or the newness of lollipop is throwing me off
Why did you buy a Nexus then? Makes no sense lol..
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk 2
Sticking with CM 11 till they have a lolliversion.
im stay, i flash when release android maintenance 5.1
so we have a thread for discussing, here's a vote!
personally I'll still be running my own personal custom Froyo build
here's ANOTHER POLL!!!! Did you turn off Chrome Tabs in Recents/App Switcher???
Froyo..?
As in 2.2?
The only reason to stay on KitKat is Xposed.
Since I have preferred the much improved performance of ART over the possibility to customize my phone with Xposed for more than one year now, I updated to Lollipop as soon as it was released (and previously I also used the DPs).
I'm just waiting for the update for the cellular N7...
atlest for the next few weeks are so I am sticking with Kitkat... once stable Roms start coming in will jump to Lollipop..
I have been spoiled with Xposed and Gravitybox
Why can't Lollipop and Xposed just get along!!
I've to agree with the 2 posts above this one Even though I am running Lollipop, gosh I miss Xposed Framework so much!! I even reverted to a backup I'd taken waaaaayy back when I used 4.4.4 Mahdi with Elemental X And Xposed Framework...
But, lollipop! It's so visually pleasing and after using L for so long, KK just seemed to look, outdated. Comparatively. After a while you notice a weird jittering and jagger and lack of animations, spacing and styles of everything that spoiled you in L, missing from KK.. Even the Xposed customizations, (Gravity Box, XGELS) that tried to come close to the L look weren't cutting it.. I really hope rovo89 does the insanely cool God-like coding and tweaks and manages to get Xposed running on ART.. :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
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I've to agree with the 2 posts above this one Even though I am running Lollipop, gosh I miss Xposed Framework so much!! I even reverted to a backup I'd taken waaaaayy back when I used 4.4.4 Mahdi with Elemental X And Xposed Framework...
But, lollipop! It's so visually pleasing and after using L for so long, KK just seemed to look, outdated. Comparatively. After a while you notice a weird jittering and jagger and lack of animations, spacing and styles of everything that spoiled you in L, missing from KK.. Even the Xposed customizations, (Gravity Box, XGELS) that tried to come close to the L look weren't cutting it.. I really hope rovo89 does the insanely cool God-like coding and tweaks and manages to get Xposed running on ART.. :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
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yeah Xposed/Gravity box is why I can't / won't be upgrading
bump for a few new eyes
We don't need multiple threads discussing the same topic.
Please use the thread you have linked in the OP,
Thread closed.
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Also what are your thoughts on this?
MJ-12
Will wait and see what happens to xposed. My favorite rom (omni) isn't ready, so no problem for me. Time will show. Happy with 4.4.4.
Completely up to you, no one can decide your specific use case for you.
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Completely up to you, no one can decide your specific use case for you.
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Thanks for your reply, but it is not about me.
This is more to see how the lack of xposed is affecting peoples choice as to whether it is worth it or not to upgrade.
MJ-12
I only need xposed for one module now. still keeps me dual booting kitkat & lollipop. Great way to keep xposed alive.
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Thanks for your reply, but it is not about me.
This is more to see how the lack of xposed is affecting peoples choice as to whether it is worth it or not to upgrade.
MJ-12
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Not losing any sleep over the death of xposed on art.
I went forward no looking back I like having the features exposed brings but not willing to wait on them to get up to date been running 5.0 since release very pleased
Depends if you can stay without your modules.
I upgraded and do not regret it.
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Thanks for your reply, but it is not about me.
This is more to see how the lack of xposed is affecting peoples choice as to whether it is worth it or not to upgrade.
MJ-12
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It only affects you if you rely on xposed.
I will stick to 4.4.4 simply because of my favorite module "amplify" saves so many resources from google. I've used aosp 5.0 and it uses so much more resources. Even with mini or micro gapps.
fire6water said:
I will stick to 4.4.4 simply because of my favorite module "amplify" saves so many resources from google. I've used aosp 5.0 and it uses so much more resources. Even with mini or micro gapps.
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can you explain this more? I enabled amplify once and had nothing but problems.
I use MightyText, which keeps data active and wakes the phone regularly to upload/download/send new messages. I figure Amplify would interfere with MightyText
The developer has not mentioned a port to ART / Lollipop. So for those running Kitkat, may want to consider moving forward.
You can try an custom ROM, that have some of xposed features. I'm using simpleAOPSP and in linking. But the wifi bug remains and its really boring.
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The developer has not mentioned a port to ART / Lollipop. So for those running Kitkat, may want to consider moving forward.
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He sure has, as a matter of fact. I believe there's even mention of it in the Xposed framework thread OP. Do some searching. You will find what the dev has said about Xposed & Lollipop.
I've enjoyed the migration to lollipop. I do greatly miss slimkats features (always used slim instead of xposed), but that Dev team is full of wizards who will get SlimLP stable soon enough. I don't mind stock LP though either. I don't suffer from the memory leak that many others seem to have.
I moved forward to lollipop and I like it and am not going to move backwards. However, if I had to do it over again knowing the bugs I have now with lollipop I would have stayed with 4.4 for a bit longer. There are a tone of modules I'm missing, but like I said not going backwards now. I actually really like the way the new app switcher works even thorough a lot of people complain about it, except it still lags once in a while when I click on it. I wish i could dedicate resources to a couple things on m phone to keep them always super snappy. The home screen, app switcher, and hangouts would be great. I used to be able to do this with a module.
Nope, Lollipop is NOT worth losing Xposed at all. Both my Moto X and N5 are sticking to KitKat and Xposed. I have a Lollipop ROM on my N5 and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. KitKat is much better.
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Nope, Lollipop is NOT worth losing Xposed at all. Both my Moto X and N5 are sticking to KitKat and Xposed. I have a Lollipop ROM on my N5 and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. KitKat is much better.
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KK is better as far as functionality goes... Especially with something like slimkat to completely customize it, but lollipop is sexier imo
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KK is better as far as functionality goes... Especially with something like slimkat to completely customize it, but lollipop is sexier imo
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Lollipop feels like an OEM skin to me, like TouchWiz. Google seems like they are going for more mainstream appeal with Lollipop, and the road they are taking with it just isn't my cup of tea. I almost vomited when I saw all the pink in the Messenger app. I prefer the more subdued look that KitKat has. In fact, I prefer everything about KitKat.
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Lollipop feels like an OEM skin to me, like TouchWiz. Google seems like they are going for more mainstream appeal with Lollipop, and the road they are taking with it just isn't my cup of tea. I almost vomited when I saw all the pink in the Messenger app. I prefer the more subdued look that KitKat has. In fact, I prefer everything about KitKat.
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I can understand it's like an OEM... But NOT touchwiz... There is absolutely no lag, the settings menu (granted it's ugly white) is organized nicely like aosp, no OEM bloat, etc. I do like the look of 4.4 better though. 5.0 does have it's perks as well. I like the status bar, but wish you could customize the quick settings arrangement (KK couldn't either without a custom ROM or xposed), I like the messenger, especially after the update, I love the material design of the apps, flappy droid obviously is a win, etc... I just hope an update drops to somewhat fix the battery a little bit. I miss my 4h SOT and u like others suggest, I'm not going to disable everything that makes my device a smartphone lol
Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I too am enjoying the material design 'overhaul' and to be honest have been spending so long with 'feature rich' ROMs it's nice to go back to the basics. I'm missing some of my favourite staples like the traffic monitor and lock screen targets but overall I'm really enjoying Lolipop.
Features I'm loving:
- Location based security
- Built in 'quiet hours'
- Built in battery analysis
- Recent apps overhaul (just now getting used to not closing all open apps)
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Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I have long ago gone back to 4.4.4. Not only am I not a fan of the new temp Material remake but the issues with over all volume decrease and other issues are not worth it. Not to mention the really stupid in call screen. Not sure what they were thinking there.
Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.
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Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.
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No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.
Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.
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Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.
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That may be a lasting issue. From some to not I have heard he is hardly working on it and is not really motivated to finish it as the direction Google is going is locking the system down for things like xposed.
I used Lollipop for few days because I had that mute call bug and only thing I liked is recent apps. Everything else is just not to my liking. I was so happy when I found out about mute call fix zip ?
I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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zelendel said:
No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.
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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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maritimesbob said:
I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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Many are working on bringing the features to 5.0. Some are doing it wrong and just trying to port them over instead of redoing them to work properly but the features are coming. I wouldnt want to rush it mainly with google pushing so many updates on a daily basis. I mean we are already up to what 5.0.2r7 with 5.1 rumored to be out next month. The material design is just like the whole Holo deal. IT will pass. Google is even changing the color pallet after many complaints. So That is not a big deal really. Well unless your an app developer that made your app in the material design then come 6.0 or 7 they will have to redo it again to match what ever google decides to do then.
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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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It is Dirty unicorns, I also use Slim. I did use AICP for a while but have moved away from roms that use CM as a base.
Thanks for the info, I better be careful this doesn't turn into a roms comparison thread!
I am sure Lollipop roms will get better and better once devs get their heads around the software, start adding features. I am sure it's a very small percentage of phone users who even have 5.0 on their phones, a good portion are probably still Jellybean.
Myself, going back to a KK rom for now until the L roms mature a little more.
Anyone finding the aosp (inc cm) Lollipop roms better than GPE for stability, battery longevity etc?
I myself am liking the taste of the lollipop myself, tastes like strawberries runs much smoother than KK, battery life is great, all my apps are working, no faults with it what so ever.
The few issues I think many people are having with it and a lot seem to be complaining about, is HTC themselves haven't listened to anyone, the issues are with sense that HTC bang on top of Google's Android, the widgets are still to small and don't come right down, however there is a mod to fix this, cant stand the ugly white and black background on the clock and weather widget, im using Chronus for my clock and weather at the moment, I do miss xposed but not enough to revert back, there are for now alternatives for what I used xposed for, they just take a bit of hunting down.
The sense version of Lollipop is still a baby at the moment and Dev's are working on their apps already for Lollipop including xposed, it will come.
You have to remember that the ROM which LabFooter posted a few days ago is still very much in beta stage. its a leak and still in testing, any issues found can still be fixed yet.
Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.
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Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.
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I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute
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I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute
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Took the words right out of my mouth, lollipop looks and feels real nice. But the poor functionality due to all the bugs it's just not usable as an every day Rom :good:
Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike
sp5it said:
Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike
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Exactly!!! [emoji106]