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What's the big deal about 4.4 anyway

So now that I finally got it working, it just looks like they changed some interface elements. Which I personally don't think look as nice as in 4.3 (those rounded popups that notify you of, say, when a program is granted root, look awful, as do the icons in the pulldowns now; like they went in the direction of MS and tried to make things more monotone). Is there something I'm missing here? I mean I know on the back end a lot of APIs had changes and additions so I can see it being mandatory for certain programs, but beyond that....better battery? sleeker interface? even more buttery smooth? I mean the user experience....

i haven't received the update yet

jb0ne said:
So now that I finally got it working, it just looks like they changed some interface elements. Which I personally don't think look as nice as in 4.3 (those rounded popups that notify you of, say, when a program is granted root, look awful, as do the icons in the pulldowns now; like they went in the direction of MS and tried to make things more monotone). Is there something I'm missing here? I mean I know on the back end a lot of APIs had changes and additions so I can see it being mandatory for certain programs, but beyond that....better battery? sleeker interface? even more buttery smooth? I mean the user experience....
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I think it feels a bit smoother than 4.3 for me, I wasn't one of the people who had problems with 4.2.2. I think you're right about the interface changes though, they are subtle but in places they changed to the monotone look but left some of the blue holo stuff in there too like they couldn't make up there mind. Waiting to see how battery goes, certainly doesn't seem any worse so far.
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gsmyth said:
...certainly doesn't seem any worse so far.
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That seems to be what I've been telling myself the last few Android updates... lol

woshiweili said:
That seems to be what I've been telling myself the last few Android updates... lol
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Yep, its not going to magically last for weeks with 10+ hrs of screen time lol but it seems grand. Feel a bit underwhelmed after googles 'kitkat for everyone' talk and then we (n7 2012 users) don't have the ART option or the GEL launcher. I know you can install the apk, I actually use nova which now has the transparent top and bottom bars features but found it confusing after updating from 4.3 and seeing the same launcher!
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At least the Alarm Clock and Google Now issues are fixed.

The stock 4.4 was really bad, graphics lag so much its not usable, I was coming from Purity Rom/Franco kernel. Now that I'm on AOSP 4.4 its much better, at least back to the same as Purity before, not noticeably better but at least not unusable like the stock one. Somewhat disappointing I guess.
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jpm168 said:
The stock 4.4 was really bad, graphics lag so much its not usable, I was coming from Purity Rom/Franco kernel. Now that I'm on AOSP 4.4 its much better, at least back to the same as Purity before, not noticeably better but at least not unusable like the stock one. Somewhat disappointing I guess.
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I was really hopping for the new launcher for my nexus 7 but well i didnt got it. other then that every thing feels like 4.3 with new theme. but every thing is smooth so no problems to report yet.

imo it handles multitasking a lot better

xateeq said:
I was really hopping for the new launcher for my nexus 7 but well i didnt got it. other then that every thing feels like 4.3 with new theme. but every thing is smooth so no problems to report yet.
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You can find the new launcher in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47031599
It's called launcher 3. It's the launcher from the nexus 5 build of 4.4 without Google now and the keyboard popup when you press home. If you want the one with Google now you can extract it from gapps(I extracted it from PA odexed).
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Me personally, am unimpressed. Seems that Google is starting to follow Apple's upgrade methodology... Make people wait a year, put out a "new" OS that just has some updated icons, leave out features on all but the latest devices to get people to upgrade their hardware and call it a day.
Fail.

jpm168 said:
The stock 4.4 was really bad, graphics lag so much its not usable, I was coming from Purity Rom/Franco kernel. Now that I'm on AOSP 4.4 its much better, at least back to the same as Purity before, not noticeably better but at least not unusable like the stock one. Somewhat disappointing I guess.
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I'm running rooted stock 4.4. I have no problem with "graphics lag" or any other issues.

xateeq said:
I was really hopping for the new launcher for my nexus 7 but well i didnt got it. other then that every thing feels like 4.3 with new theme. but every thing is smooth so no problems to report yet.
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just lou said:
I'm running rooted stock 4.4. I have no problem with "graphics lag" or any other issues.
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New user here. I thought it was just me. Games are so laggy it's terrible. What ROM and kernel should I user to fix this!? Thanks on advance.

SquireSCA said:
Me personally, am unimpressed. Seems that Google is starting to follow Apple's upgrade methodology... Make people wait a year, put out a "new" OS that just has some updated icons, leave out features on all but the latest devices to get people to upgrade their hardware and call it a day.
Fail.
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And it is people like you who don't have the slightest clue. Google doesn't make money from selling nexus devices.
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it's supposed to have better memory management and smoother amongst other things, I've yet to install it as I really like SlimROM 4.3

I like the cloud printing. Its nice to be able to print stuff straight off my phone or tablet and have it sitting on the printer when i get home.

I'm running stock rooted. Only lag I notice is when pressing home to exit the app drawer. Scrolling is smooth, etc.
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xateeq said:
I was really hopping for the new launcher for my nexus 7 but well i didnt got it. other then that every thing feels like 4.3 with new theme. but every thing is smooth so no problems to report yet.
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My thread (in my signature) has both APKs you need to install to get the full launcher - with Gooogle Now and everything. The keyboard bug has also been fixed.

gsmyth said:
I think it feels a bit smoother than 4.3...
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It feels laggy compared to my Lumia :/

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[Q] What's the fuss about Lollipop??

Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.

+1

but... but material... and ART...
j/k, honestly I'm waiting to try it mostly because of the lockscreen notifications and the status bar changing colors (lol)
and honestly in the Moto G WhatsApp group I noticed that mostly indians are super hyped for Lollipop, for some weird reason

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I guess lots of white and wasted ui space is the in thing right now. That along with lengthy animations. I am sorry to say this but take a look at the XDA website forums on pc you will understand what I mean.
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I guess lots of white and wasted ui space is the in thing right now. That along with lengthy animations. I am sorry to say this but take a look at the XDA website forums on pc you will understand what I mean.
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:good: I hear ya! Exactly my point. So I will stay on Kit-Kat and avoid Lollipop. I am hoping somebody will develop a nice Kit-Kat based custom ROM and/or kernel that will allow overclocking. I'm not an Android developer so I am not able to do so. But I am really quite happy with things as they are so I won't lose any sleep over it.
Thanks for your feedback.

I have to admit I was pretty excited for Lollipop but with some of the developments over the past few days such as the, IMO, inferior lockscreen (having to swipe to input the pattern/PIN) it's put a slight dampener on it, I'm still going to upgrade but I'm not going to rush first day it comes out.
And just found out they have removed the Normal, Vibrate and Silent toggles when you long press the power button, that's annoying!

Yup as you guys said, we Indians sure are excited. I'm just speaking for myself here, and not generalizing, but I do love the new design of Lollipop. IMO, KitKat had a very boring, flat design, which I always used to cover it up with some CM Themes with my old mobile. Whereas the new design gives a breath of fresh air to the OS, which I think Android greatly needed.
As for ART, what you feel or see is mainly just placebo on kitkat. In a sense I really don't think it makes much difference with 4.4.
Disclaimer: I maybe wrong here. Just quoting my experience.
So in short the OS is new, the design is beautiful and a complete overhaul, some new awesome features that weren't available on stock before, and other minor tid-bits are basically the reason why we, a bunch of android nerds (i'm saying this in a positive way) are excited when a new OS gets released.

pastorbob62 said:
Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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The Moto G 2014 has no custom ROMs out for it yet. We were stuck with the boring, rooted stock. We couldn't use a theme to make it look something like Lollipop. Instead, we used GravityBox.
Customs ROMs give much more than GravityBox since GravityBox cannot fulfill most of the things we all like about customs ROMs. Lollipop fixed a good amount of the small problems we had with stock 4.4.4; along with a new design and fluent animations. So we all hopped on the Lollipop train because there were no custom ROMs.
Now, had there been PA available for the Moto G 2014, I would have waited until there was a Lollipop version of PA.

well said!! We lack development and thus lollipop will give us a refreshed look...

I dont know, why do we still lack the much needed developments
However, on a bright note. take a look at the moto x 2014 dev section.
Much barer and scarce then here. lol
So Im not much disappointed xD

I'm most interested in projct volta. Read a test these days about lollipop on nexus 5, they increased screen on time about nearly 30 %. Not bad in my opinion...

surenzxx said:
The Moto G 2014 has no custom ROMs out for it yet. We were stuck with the boring, rooted stock. We couldn't use a theme to make it look something like Lollipop. Instead, we used GravityBox.
Customs ROMs give much more than GravityBox since GravityBox cannot fulfill most of the things we all like about customs ROMs. Lollipop fixed a good amount of the small problems we had with stock 4.4.4; along with a new design and fluent animations. So we all hopped on the Lollipop train because there were no custom ROMs.
Now, had there been PA available for the Moto G 2014, I would have waited until there was a Lollipop version of PA.
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I agree that custom ROM development is totally lacking with this phone. But I disagree that Lollipop fills any void. As far as Lollipop fixing any problems , I guess that is based on one's own experience and I have not had any problems at all with 4.4.4. That is my whole point, Lollipop does not bring enough of ANYTING to inspire me to upgrade. I don't find 4.4.4 boring at all, I don't have any "problems" running it or using any of the apps I need, and it is very fast and responsive for me.
All of that said I do realize that we all use our phones in different ways that may make Lollipop appealing to many. It just isn't all that for me. Hopefully some motivated developers will come up with some decent custom ROM's for Kit-Kat. But until that happens I am sticking with the stock version I am currently running.

I've got Lollipop on my Moto G and I'm not particularly impressed.
-Unlocking takes longer.
-Pandora lockscreen controls are gone.
-Lockscreen notifications are not what I hoped for. If I get one text it will show some information about the texts. If I get 3 texts it just says I got 3 texts. So I have to unlock the phone anyways, and that takes longer.
-App-specific notification settings don't seem to work. I keep getting daily Subway Surfer notifications even though I turned them off.
-I DO like how the lockscreen camera controls are implemented.
Overall lollipop is meh for me. I guess some Android fanbois are like some Apple fanbois. They can't wait for the next thing that Google/Apple gives them, no matter what it is.

mike_ekim said:
I've got Lollipop on my Moto G and I'm not particularly impressed.
-Unlocking takes longer.
-Pandora lockscreen controls are gone.
-Lockscreen notifications are not what I hoped for. If I get one text it will show some information about the texts. If I get 3 texts it just says I got 3 texts. So I have to unlock the phone anyways, and that takes longer.
-App-specific notification settings don't seem to work. I keep getting daily Subway Surfer notifications even though I turned them off.
-I DO like how the lockscreen camera controls are implemented.
Overall lollipop is meh for me. I guess some Android fanbois are like some Apple fanbois. They can't wait for the next thing that Google/Apple gives them, no matter what it is.
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Okay, this I didn't read in any of the reviews.
-So only pandora lockscreen controls are gone or even play music?
-Hmm, and so we can't even expand those notifications? Maybe there's a setting for it? I don't know lol
-Well I'm sure this bug will get solved....hopefully
Anything else you didn't like?

pastorbob62 said:
Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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I agree with some of your points here, but to be honest for me it isn't lollipop that is lacking it is the Moto g, deep in my heart i love this device (mainly because of the battery life) but i don't think i can bare the 1 Gb of memory anymore and lack of development, i think the Nexus 5 got way more improvements and that's where all the excitement is coming from. The Nexus 5 was plagued with bad battery life and sub-par camera, audio latency was still bad (well this was a whole Android thing), etc and lollipop solved that. I think most of the excitement you are hearing is people with Nexus 4s and 5s, also a lot of new api's for developers. Yes there are things Google was retarded on removing, i'm hoping they listen to the community and add them back in 5.0.1. Oh and for what it is worth, for me certain apps on my Moto G would stutter like going into menus etc, like Tinder for instance on lollipop the stuttering is completely gone also i have more free ram and i think the battery life improved a little bit more.
[edit] Okay i take back what i said, i just headed over to the Nexus 5 forum and a lot of negative reviews too. I don't know, i don't really have no complaints of it on the G just wish i had more memory, but i knew what i was getting myself into.

mykenyc said:
I agree with some of your points here, but to be honest for me it isn't lollipop that is lacking it is the Moto g, deep in my heart i love this device (mainly because of the battery life) but i don't think i can bare the 1 Gb of memory anymore and lack of development, i think the Nexus 5 got way more improvements and that's where all the excitement is coming from. The Nexus 5 was plagued with bad battery life and sub-par camera, audio latency was still bad (well this was a whole Android thing), etc and lollipop solved that. I think most of the excitement you are hearing is people with Nexus 4s and 5s, also a lot of new api's for developers. Yes there are things Google was retarded on removing, i'm hoping they listen to the community and add them back in 5.0.1. Oh and for what it is worth, for me certain apps on my Moto G would stutter like going into menus etc, like Tinder for instance on lollipop the stuttering is completely gone also i have more free ram and i think the battery life improved a little bit more.
[edit] Okay i take back what i said, i just headed over to the Nexus 5 forum and a lot of negative reviews too. I don't know, i don't really have no complaints of it on the G just wish i had more memory, but i knew what i was getting myself into.
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The memory issue is a big one for many folks, but I haven't seen any problems (so far) in the six weeks I've had my phone. I don't foresee it becoming a problem since the way I use doesn't tax the memory limits. The most demanding app I use is Hay Day, and it runs quite well. It does crash on occasion but it also crashes on my wife's Galaxy S-4, her TF-700 tablet and my TF-300T tablet as well, so that's an app issue not a device limitation. And I am extremely pleased with the phone performance. It is much improved over my previous phone.
But I can see how the memory would make a difference for many people. And if Lollipop helps then that is a good thing. However, it seems that we are giving up a lot to gain a little.

I was happy with JB & still like it. KK is a little better & I enjoy running it. However I don't care much for L. I tried hard to like it. It has a few features I liked but over all I didn't care for it. I think it is ugly for one & the bugs in 5.0 was driving me crazy.
I went back to KK for now.

I only hope that Lollipop helps bring some development to this phone, because it is really lacking and that is starting to make me want to sell it.

Hakkinan said:
I only hope that Lollipop helps bring some development to this phone, because it is really lacking and that is starting to make me want to sell it.
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I understand your frustration with the lack of development. Overall I am happy with my phone on stock Kit-Kat with it unlocked and rooted. I am able to remove some of the bloat which helps a lot. But it would be nice to see a custom ROM that allows overclocking and tweaking of the system to improve stability.
As it stands, I will stay with Kit-Kat and not upgrade to Lollipop. I have read way too many complaints about it, and as I said earlier, when I tried it on my tablet I was not at all impressed.

Poll: Is it worth going to Lollipop knowing that xposed and gravitybox don't work?

Also what are your thoughts on this?
MJ-12

Will wait and see what happens to xposed. My favorite rom (omni) isn't ready, so no problem for me. Time will show. Happy with 4.4.4.

Completely up to you, no one can decide your specific use case for you.

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Completely up to you, no one can decide your specific use case for you.
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Thanks for your reply, but it is not about me.
This is more to see how the lack of xposed is affecting peoples choice as to whether it is worth it or not to upgrade.
MJ-12

I only need xposed for one module now. still keeps me dual booting kitkat & lollipop. Great way to keep xposed alive.

MJ-12 said:
Thanks for your reply, but it is not about me.
This is more to see how the lack of xposed is affecting peoples choice as to whether it is worth it or not to upgrade.
MJ-12
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Not losing any sleep over the death of xposed on art.

I went forward no looking back I like having the features exposed brings but not willing to wait on them to get up to date been running 5.0 since release very pleased

Depends if you can stay without your modules.
I upgraded and do not regret it.

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Thanks for your reply, but it is not about me.
This is more to see how the lack of xposed is affecting peoples choice as to whether it is worth it or not to upgrade.
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It only affects you if you rely on xposed.

I will stick to 4.4.4 simply because of my favorite module "amplify" saves so many resources from google. I've used aosp 5.0 and it uses so much more resources. Even with mini or micro gapps.

fire6water said:
I will stick to 4.4.4 simply because of my favorite module "amplify" saves so many resources from google. I've used aosp 5.0 and it uses so much more resources. Even with mini or micro gapps.
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can you explain this more? I enabled amplify once and had nothing but problems.
I use MightyText, which keeps data active and wakes the phone regularly to upload/download/send new messages. I figure Amplify would interfere with MightyText

The developer has not mentioned a port to ART / Lollipop. So for those running Kitkat, may want to consider moving forward.

You can try an custom ROM, that have some of xposed features. I'm using simpleAOPSP and in linking. But the wifi bug remains and its really boring.

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The developer has not mentioned a port to ART / Lollipop. So for those running Kitkat, may want to consider moving forward.
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He sure has, as a matter of fact. I believe there's even mention of it in the Xposed framework thread OP. Do some searching. You will find what the dev has said about Xposed & Lollipop.

I've enjoyed the migration to lollipop. I do greatly miss slimkats features (always used slim instead of xposed), but that Dev team is full of wizards who will get SlimLP stable soon enough. I don't mind stock LP though either. I don't suffer from the memory leak that many others seem to have.

I moved forward to lollipop and I like it and am not going to move backwards. However, if I had to do it over again knowing the bugs I have now with lollipop I would have stayed with 4.4 for a bit longer. There are a tone of modules I'm missing, but like I said not going backwards now. I actually really like the way the new app switcher works even thorough a lot of people complain about it, except it still lags once in a while when I click on it. I wish i could dedicate resources to a couple things on m phone to keep them always super snappy. The home screen, app switcher, and hangouts would be great. I used to be able to do this with a module.

Nope, Lollipop is NOT worth losing Xposed at all. Both my Moto X and N5 are sticking to KitKat and Xposed. I have a Lollipop ROM on my N5 and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. KitKat is much better.

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Nope, Lollipop is NOT worth losing Xposed at all. Both my Moto X and N5 are sticking to KitKat and Xposed. I have a Lollipop ROM on my N5 and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. KitKat is much better.
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KK is better as far as functionality goes... Especially with something like slimkat to completely customize it, but lollipop is sexier imo

Ahimsa310 said:
KK is better as far as functionality goes... Especially with something like slimkat to completely customize it, but lollipop is sexier imo
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Lollipop feels like an OEM skin to me, like TouchWiz. Google seems like they are going for more mainstream appeal with Lollipop, and the road they are taking with it just isn't my cup of tea. I almost vomited when I saw all the pink in the Messenger app. I prefer the more subdued look that KitKat has. In fact, I prefer everything about KitKat.

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Lollipop feels like an OEM skin to me, like TouchWiz. Google seems like they are going for more mainstream appeal with Lollipop, and the road they are taking with it just isn't my cup of tea. I almost vomited when I saw all the pink in the Messenger app. I prefer the more subdued look that KitKat has. In fact, I prefer everything about KitKat.
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I can understand it's like an OEM... But NOT touchwiz... There is absolutely no lag, the settings menu (granted it's ugly white) is organized nicely like aosp, no OEM bloat, etc. I do like the look of 4.4 better though. 5.0 does have it's perks as well. I like the status bar, but wish you could customize the quick settings arrangement (KK couldn't either without a custom ROM or xposed), I like the messenger, especially after the update, I love the material design of the apps, flappy droid obviously is a win, etc... I just hope an update drops to somewhat fix the battery a little bit. I miss my 4h SOT and u like others suggest, I'm not going to disable everything that makes my device a smartphone lol

[Q] Not liking lollipop?

Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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maritimesbob said:
Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I too am enjoying the material design 'overhaul' and to be honest have been spending so long with 'feature rich' ROMs it's nice to go back to the basics. I'm missing some of my favourite staples like the traffic monitor and lock screen targets but overall I'm really enjoying Lolipop.
Features I'm loving:
- Location based security
- Built in 'quiet hours'
- Built in battery analysis
- Recent apps overhaul (just now getting used to not closing all open apps)

maritimesbob said:
Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I have long ago gone back to 4.4.4. Not only am I not a fan of the new temp Material remake but the issues with over all volume decrease and other issues are not worth it. Not to mention the really stupid in call screen. Not sure what they were thinking there.

Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.

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Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.
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No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.

Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.

alray said:
Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.
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That may be a lasting issue. From some to not I have heard he is hardly working on it and is not really motivated to finish it as the direction Google is going is locking the system down for things like xposed.

I used Lollipop for few days because I had that mute call bug and only thing I liked is recent apps. Everything else is just not to my liking. I was so happy when I found out about mute call fix zip ?

I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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zelendel said:
No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.
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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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maritimesbob said:
I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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Many are working on bringing the features to 5.0. Some are doing it wrong and just trying to port them over instead of redoing them to work properly but the features are coming. I wouldnt want to rush it mainly with google pushing so many updates on a daily basis. I mean we are already up to what 5.0.2r7 with 5.1 rumored to be out next month. The material design is just like the whole Holo deal. IT will pass. Google is even changing the color pallet after many complaints. So That is not a big deal really. Well unless your an app developer that made your app in the material design then come 6.0 or 7 they will have to redo it again to match what ever google decides to do then.

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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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It is Dirty unicorns, I also use Slim. I did use AICP for a while but have moved away from roms that use CM as a base.

Thanks for the info, I better be careful this doesn't turn into a roms comparison thread!
I am sure Lollipop roms will get better and better once devs get their heads around the software, start adding features. I am sure it's a very small percentage of phone users who even have 5.0 on their phones, a good portion are probably still Jellybean.
Myself, going back to a KK rom for now until the L roms mature a little more.

Anyone finding the aosp (inc cm) Lollipop roms better than GPE for stability, battery longevity etc?

I myself am liking the taste of the lollipop myself, tastes like strawberries runs much smoother than KK, battery life is great, all my apps are working, no faults with it what so ever.
The few issues I think many people are having with it and a lot seem to be complaining about, is HTC themselves haven't listened to anyone, the issues are with sense that HTC bang on top of Google's Android, the widgets are still to small and don't come right down, however there is a mod to fix this, cant stand the ugly white and black background on the clock and weather widget, im using Chronus for my clock and weather at the moment, I do miss xposed but not enough to revert back, there are for now alternatives for what I used xposed for, they just take a bit of hunting down.
The sense version of Lollipop is still a baby at the moment and Dev's are working on their apps already for Lollipop including xposed, it will come.
You have to remember that the ROM which LabFooter posted a few days ago is still very much in beta stage. its a leak and still in testing, any issues found can still be fixed yet.

Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.

maritimesbob said:
Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.
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I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute

donkeykong1 said:
I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute
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Took the words right out of my mouth, lollipop looks and feels real nice. But the poor functionality due to all the bugs it's just not usable as an every day Rom :good:

Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike

sp5it said:
Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike
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Exactly!!! [emoji106]

Lollipop x Kitkat

After some months playing around with Lollipop, I'm serious thinking about going back to KitKat, to wait a more stable version of L. In KitKat I can install xposed framework, and also almost all apps are now updated to material design...
But, I'd like to hear opinions from you guys about the pros and cons, before of doing something, since I don't have much time to spend in front of my laptop flashing Roms...

The props I find in L are al about the looks. I really like the visual style of L, the desing is beautiful and the integration is even better. I haven't find a way to make the estatus bar look like the bar in lollipop and the recent apps carousel is amazing. I'm really satisfied with the looks of L.
Although I really like the L's visual style,I find a better user experience with KK, it seems faster in response and of course xposed represents a big pro for KK. The blurred estatus bar, xgel settings and such provides a wide range of tweeks that makes you feel like you truly own the device (wich lollipop dosent have). Other thing in favour of KK is the support; most apps hace changed to material desing but still dont match perfectly with the system and lets not talk about the functionality

I think and hope that xposed for L is not so far, in the meantime downgrading is a good option

michyall said:
I think and hope that xposed for L is not so far, in the meantime downgrading is a good option
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Man! I was just about to answer that it would be impossible, than I though: "let me Google it for a moment" and... Voilà! Here it is: http://www.xda-developers.com/xposed-framework-lollipop-xdatv/

I'm all for downgrading to KK. I had LL on my N5 and was not a fan at all (bugs, appearance) so all my devices are staying on stock KK for the foreseeable future.

You say good words metalhead, waiting for gravity box now for L or a big patch from google.
But, at my eyes, android is going to fail continuously, good that CM team is doing a great work.

I've used both, on stock, and finally got bored from both, and installed CM, also got bored from it, and then I ported VANIR rom for myself, and really liked it, i'm going to post it, but i need to have 10+ comments.. -.-
this is my '+' hahaha

I'm curious