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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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pmacevad said:
If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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felacio said:
Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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I remember gingerbread running pretty nicely on my OG Evo as well. I do A LOT of different things on my phone (as I'm sure most of us do ), but there would always be something I could find. Guess it's just me being nitpicky lol. Didn't you release a Rom or 2 over there?
I love this newest version of sense, miss some of the old sense widgets though. The zoe feature is top notch, and the camera pics are better then any mobile phone camera I've ever used. And I also have to admit, I'm in love with Blinkfeed. Everything right on the homescreen that I want to read, and some things I didn't, but found out that I did lol. All around I think it's a great os. I'm curious to try out some aosp on the One but I don't know if I'm willing to give up those features. I'm also intimidated about the internal data moving around between aosp and sense, and having to manually move it around. That's why to me right now it's not worth the change. Well have to see what's in store for the future.
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I know on my evo shift aosp ran flawless and fast as all getout.... I suppose the benefits on a device this fast would simply be the fact that its the latest android release 4.2.2 as opposed to whatever android version sense is (currently 4.1.2). Honestly for the enrichment that sense brings I don't see it getting nearly as popular on the one unless klp brings some killer features. Until the next iteration of sense comes out and we get that update....

I'm with ya OP I just don't understand the reasoning. But some people are just purists I suppose and want stock Android for some reason. I've personally always thought of AOSP was kind of moving and meh.
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I tried CM10.1 for a few days it's night and day more fluid. If it gets fully functional bye bye blink feed.
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I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!

gonowhere said:
I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!
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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.

fanaticalg said:
Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.
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Right..I was a junkie for all the things you could when I first learned about rooting, I was reading forums ALL the time!!!

Another thing to add is that Sense 5 is much more transparent to Android. You see a lot more of AOSP in the new version of Sense, like the notification menu, some of the text editing, etc. Personally, I like Sense over AOSP because AOSP to me seems just too basic. And this is a good in between to where I've actually been happy with it. Sense 3 and 4 were just way too in your face, but I liked it because it was Sense. I now see it more because I have the One. At this point, if HTC stays with it's values on Sense 5, and continues to innovate, more people will likely stay.

pmacevad said:
If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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That's because all AOSP ROMs are a hack. I'm sure it will be as fully functional and stable as any OEM Sense ROM.
The CM Project has some of it's own code. But they don't have access to firmware and they need to play together. HTC and Carriers have access to everything.
People always think open source means Open everything. It's almost always a Hybrid with some propriety pieces that are not released and the "public" code is always lagging in what's released.
Some things done on AOSP are reverse engineered when they don't have source for something (or the latest source).
I've yet to see a AOSP ROM CM have a FULLY functional GPS. Nor have the ## codes ever worked which I find really useful.
By the time they (Sprint HTC CDMA Android phones) are Officially Supported (if at all) it's over a year and the next generation is released.
Unofficial AOSP (CM) is always behind.

To answer Ops question, some ppl like the pure android experience. AOSP Roms are usually the 1st to be updated to the latest version of android. Also, AOSP Roms take up less memory than Sense roms. There are some features I actually miss from CM/AOSP like widgets in lockscreen, 4.2 quick toggles from notification drawer, quick reply to text from notification drawer, 4.2 photosphere, etc. I used to just run CM on all my devices when available but I'm actually liking Sense 5. For me, I'm happy with it and don't see myself flashing AOSP any time soon
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I think on dated HTC phones aosp was the way to go because sense was over bearing.. aosp came along way as far as functionality and features. Aosp opened development to things like cm, pa, rootbox, akop with things we never have on sense. Now on the other hand sense 5 is the sweet spot and with the camera features how sense is more incorporated into android opposed to how sense just ran on top and took control. Sense 5 is more like Pippen to Jordan rather than Shaq and Koby both wanting the stardom at one point
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Sense is one of the reason I use HTC. I tried a few asop roms on my ol g evo (loved that phone)and never liked them as much.
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Has anyone ported a sense Rom for a device from a different brand
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I am with the op as well. I use HTC devices because of sense. I would just use a nexus if I wanted aosp. Just a matter of personal preference I guess.
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Well right now there isn't much advantage. But when key lime pie lands and then L whatever it becomes a lot more appealing. HTC won't keep this updated for the two years I will own this phone but I will still want to play with next great thing and not be stuck here. Usually bounce between ASOP and the newest sense that gets ported.
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I was a AOSP user for awhile on my cdma htc hero and my lg optimus s (AOSP made them less sluggish). But I always had some sort of bug. When I bought the S3 I was excited because the phone is so popular I figured AOSP would run really well and the bugs would be gone....Needless to say it was always too buggy for me (and if you goto the cyanogenmod thread there is always someone reporting a bug). So I stuck with touchwiz but didnt like the look so I themed it and honestly I was pretty content. A large part of why I like cyanogen is because it looks really nice.
The new sense hit it out of the park IMO and is a great base to tweek up even better than touchwiz. Looks wise its awesome and it has many good features. I am now going to root and install a custom rom based off of stock. Stock tweaked rooms seem to be where its at right now.
Im not going to lie if I could choose plain android vs sense I might choose android but the choice between modded AOSP (buggy) and stock modded is simple.

also it's the battery life of aosp roms, usually cm roms easily doubles battery life for me, on the lte i could easily go 1 day and half on my batt when most on sense couldn't make it thru a day being a heavy user, there are pros and cons to sense and cm

I decided to try vanilla Android and brought a Nexus 4 and guess what? Guess they call it vanilla for a reason. It was absolutely the boringness phone I have ever had. I only lasted 2 weeks with the phone before I gave up on it.
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I'm runnin the latest cm nightly and alls well... Like aosp sometimes... Fun to change it up just because... I can!
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Discussion. Are pure Google devices worth it?

Let's hear it.
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I have a nexus 7 and stock Android bores me. I actually like Touchwiz and the "vomit inducing colors", that some people complain so much about.
I have no need to rom my S4.
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Mship said:
I have a nexus 7 and stock Android bores me. I actually like Touchwiz and the "vomit inducing colors", that some people complain so much about.
I have no need to rom my S4.
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I tend to agree mostly because I enjoy having the option. TW has really stepped it up since the Gingerbread version that came stock on the S2. I tend to go back and forth between TW and AOSP. A great option.
The Nexus 7 is a great device. I run JellyBeer because I like tabletui on my tablet. I tend to do less modding now on that device because I play a ton of games on it. I'd rather it just be stable.

I will say this I brought a TW device because I like TW. People buy a TW device and complain about TW I'm like why not just buy a pure Google device instead of flashing a rom to get that pure Google experience.
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It's great we have options. I say whatever floats your boat. But like E, I bought a TW device because I wanted one. My wife had an S3 and I had HTC's. I did all the techie stuff on her phone and grew to like the interface. It's a refreshing change for me being a long time Sense user. And I've been very pleased with it so far. But it's nice to know I can always switch if I get bored with TW.

The device itself, no. There will be near-perfect ports for the TW devices already out there. But if I had the choice of buying either of them at the same price, I'd go with the GPe. I don't use most of Samsung's pre-loaded features.
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I've enjoyed the TW experience and why give up features for the pure android experience?

I came from HTC Sense and pure Android with all the roms I found for my Evo3d, so TW is new to me. I love TW! To me they all do the same crap. I do love all the settings, options and gadgets from TW so I prefer it for now. The only reason I tried non sense roms was for Jellybean and increase speed. With my S4 I don't need any more speed plus I love the funs stuff that came with the phone so I don't see myself installing a different rom unless its the next Android version. Whats the next Android version to come out? Apple Pie or something like that?

The only time I used an aosp rom for a long period was on my hero. I actually preferred sense over aosp and now I am really enjoying tw. I must admit I do notice some lag at times, but no more than any other phone I've had. Also, this is the longest I've ever gone without rooting a phone. I'm considering rooting now just to get rid of some of the bloat I never use.
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I've always liked the dark aosp roms and paranoid android but this is the first touch wiz phone I've like the tw on because of the extra features.
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If someone can get the tw camera ported, that would be sick.

Finally I find people that like touch wiz. As a fellow liker of tw it was sad being in a minority of one

Vanilla may be nice in some aspects, but it gets boring quick. I don't know what specifically, but there were things I couldn't do on vanilla that I could do on touchwiz. I don't know of any, off hand, that I couldn't do in tw but could in vanilla. I don't know if it is an issue now but it used to be that a Bluetooth program, or the emulator program, wouldn't work with a Nintendo controller if it had touchwiz. Haven't used it lately so I don't know if they fixed that. The Dev said that touchwiz wasn't compatible at the time. This was the time of the nexus s 4g.

E The Magnificent said:
I will say this I brought a TW device because I like TW. People buy a TW device and complain about TW I'm like why not just buy a pure Google device instead of flashing a rom to get that pure Google experience.
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Sprint doesn't have any pure Google devices.

I'm not a fan of the vomit inducing colors on asop. The lack of ability to customize the phone the way you want without having to resort to play store apps or asop roms is annoying. The horrible camera and phone app reminds me of pre froyo. Settings menu lacks the options to customize and requires too many "clicks" deep into menus to get what you want.
WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS/brightness all require
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Yes because they will give us power users and devs more options and it will boost aosp development for regular stock subsidized phones.
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I regularly switch between TW & AOSP. I like them both for different reasons and I change as the mood suits me. I'll say this though - I waited longer to flash an AOSP rom on this phone than I have on any other phone in something like 2-3 years. And that covers a whole lot of phones. Samsung has done great things with TW and I'm legitimately baffled by all the hatred it gets.
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PwnCloud said:
Sprint doesn't have any pure Google devices.
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Galaxy Nexus
Nexus S 4G

I bought this phone for the hardware, and SUPER AMOLED, 5 inch screen. The extras mean nothing to me. I like the snappiness of AOSP/GE. Once you flash CM10.1, you cant' go back to TouchWiz. It just doesn't look right.

Until stock android gets better features, no. Google needs to come up with some cool features like LGs quick memo, floating apps, or video overlay, or Samsung's dual window mode, and pop out video. It's features like that, that actually enhance the android experience. App switching ≠ multitasking anymore. What's the point of all these quad core phones if we don't get use out of them?
Another main thing is google needs to stop giving CDMA users the cold shoulder. Even if Pure devices were worth it, they wouldn't be worth switching companies for.

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I bought this phone for the hardware, and SUPER AMOLED, 5 inch screen. The extras mean nothing to me. I like the snappiness of AOSP/GE. Once you flash CM10.1, you cant' go back to TouchWiz. It just doesn't look right.
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Maybe YOU can't, but I do all the time. I don't really notice any difference in speed between the two, and my 3g data on CM is just awful.
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[Discussion] Android 4.4 - will we get a stable? (show your opinion)

Hi everyone,
I must say that android 4.4 sounds like a great improvement for us as our device is getting older \=
However, I'm afraid that we may not get a stable rom running this version. I mean' we might get some rom that some how runs it, but still as many roms to our device thease days - they are not stable at all.
So what do you think? will we get it or not?

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Hi everyone,
I must say that android 4.4 sounds like a great improvement for us as our device is getting older \=
However, I'm afraid that we may not get a stable rom running this version. I mean' we might get some rom that some how runs it, but still as many roms to our device thease days - they are not stable at all.
So what do you think? will we get it or not?
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Lol why not @szezso is working on it. We are moving away from CM and going towards something closer to AOSP because of the changes in cm. Fyi.
The CM ROMs by szezso are basically stable..
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poondog said:
Lol why not @szezso is working on it. We are moving away from CM and going towards something closer to AOSP because of the changes in cm. Fyi.
The CM ROMs by szezso are basically stable..
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With this kid ^ as per usual. Szezso is a good dev. Its just another update. Hopefully it is as 'light' as they say. So it runs well.
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With this kid ^ as per usual. Szezso is a good dev. Its just another update. Hopefully it is as 'light' as they say. So it runs well.
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I'll find out soon when Google/HTC decide to release kit kat for N7 and One Google edition

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I'll find out soon when Google/HTC decide to release kit kat for N7 and One Google edition
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My Nexus 5 will have it
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I'm sorry but I don't think szesco's roms are stable enough. I do appreciate his and contribution of course but since he doesn't have much time and also has many projects simultaneously, it results with poor stability and discontinued projects.
I'm using lacost rom and that one also is very poor like many other. It seems like it's better to use Android 2.3 based roms.

gavraz said:
I'm sorry but I don't think szesco's roms are stable enough. I do appreciate his and contribution of course but since he doesn't have much time and also has many projects simultaneously, it results with poor stability and discontinued projects.
I'm using lacost rom and that one also is very poor like many other. It seems like it's better to use Android 2.3 based roms.
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What do you define by stable...
Cuz the way I define stable is good enough to be a daily driver with the RARE random rebooting.

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What do you define by stable...
Cuz the way I define stable is good enough to be a daily driver with the RARE random rebooting.
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What rom do you use? I think I would define such a rom as stable too.
With lacost rom I'm experiancing every day (and sometimes more the once) situations were an app stops to respond or something and the whole phone get stuck, nothing responses. sometimes I have to wait, sometimes I have no other option but to remove the battery.

gavraz said:
What rom do you use? I think I would define such a rom as stable too.
With lacost rom I'm experiancing every day (and sometimes more the once) situations were an app stops to respond or something and the whole phone get stuck, nothing responses. sometimes I have to wait, sometimes I have no other option but to remove the battery.
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You can't compare ROM stability to app stability. I've seen lots of cases where apps just stop responding and that really doesn't have much to do with the ROM being unstable.
With the phone getting stuck from time to time, I experience no such problem or VERY RARELY on each AOSP ROM here. Sometimes, you may lose responsiveness but you can just lock your screen and then unlock it and that will fix it.

4.4 for HTC S2 will be dream coming true especially for phone with low memory.
JB from sezscoz is stable.. But i do find a lag in scrolling or navigating to diff app or setting etc..

Well, 4.4 is basically 4.3 with a couple of changes, and it was also designed to run on 512mb of ram, so if we got 4.3, i dont see a limitation on 4.4
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Well, 4.4 is basically 4.3 with a couple of changes, and it was also designed to run on 512mb of ram, so if we got 4.3, i dont see a limitation on 4.4
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It would be quite different taking into account its 'More' Pure AOSP rather than CM. It does look a bit different and apparently far 'lighter'.
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You can't compare ROM stability to app stability. I've seen lots of cases where apps just stop responding and that really doesn't have much to do with the ROM being unstable.
With the phone getting stuck from time to time, I experience no such problem or VERY RARELY on each AOSP ROM here. Sometimes, you may lose responsiveness but you can just lock your screen and then unlock it and that will fix it.
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Oh of course, I know. It isn't a specific app, sometimes it's the chrome sometimes whatsapp or Trebuchet launcher sometimes I don't even know what app causes it.
Something with the rom isn't right... the whole phone just stops responding.
I had love to use that AOSP rom, any recommendations on a specific one?

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Oh of course, I know. It isn't a specific app, sometimes it's the chrome sometimes whatsapp or Trebuchet launcher sometimes I don't even know what app causes it.
Something with the rom isn't right... the whole phone just stops responding.
I had love to use that AOSP rom, any recommendations on a specific one?
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I recommend CyanVivoX. Very stable and pretty much no bugs.

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I recommend CyanVivoX. Very stable and pretty much no bugs.
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CM build are very nice, but battery optimizations are bad.
On Sense roms my phone is working about 3-4 days!
And CM roms kill my IncS battery for 1-2 days

[Q] Not liking lollipop?

Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I too am enjoying the material design 'overhaul' and to be honest have been spending so long with 'feature rich' ROMs it's nice to go back to the basics. I'm missing some of my favourite staples like the traffic monitor and lock screen targets but overall I'm really enjoying Lolipop.
Features I'm loving:
- Location based security
- Built in 'quiet hours'
- Built in battery analysis
- Recent apps overhaul (just now getting used to not closing all open apps)

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Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I have long ago gone back to 4.4.4. Not only am I not a fan of the new temp Material remake but the issues with over all volume decrease and other issues are not worth it. Not to mention the really stupid in call screen. Not sure what they were thinking there.

Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.

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Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.
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No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.

Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.

alray said:
Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.
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That may be a lasting issue. From some to not I have heard he is hardly working on it and is not really motivated to finish it as the direction Google is going is locking the system down for things like xposed.

I used Lollipop for few days because I had that mute call bug and only thing I liked is recent apps. Everything else is just not to my liking. I was so happy when I found out about mute call fix zip ?

I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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zelendel said:
No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.
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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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maritimesbob said:
I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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Many are working on bringing the features to 5.0. Some are doing it wrong and just trying to port them over instead of redoing them to work properly but the features are coming. I wouldnt want to rush it mainly with google pushing so many updates on a daily basis. I mean we are already up to what 5.0.2r7 with 5.1 rumored to be out next month. The material design is just like the whole Holo deal. IT will pass. Google is even changing the color pallet after many complaints. So That is not a big deal really. Well unless your an app developer that made your app in the material design then come 6.0 or 7 they will have to redo it again to match what ever google decides to do then.

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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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It is Dirty unicorns, I also use Slim. I did use AICP for a while but have moved away from roms that use CM as a base.

Thanks for the info, I better be careful this doesn't turn into a roms comparison thread!
I am sure Lollipop roms will get better and better once devs get their heads around the software, start adding features. I am sure it's a very small percentage of phone users who even have 5.0 on their phones, a good portion are probably still Jellybean.
Myself, going back to a KK rom for now until the L roms mature a little more.

Anyone finding the aosp (inc cm) Lollipop roms better than GPE for stability, battery longevity etc?

I myself am liking the taste of the lollipop myself, tastes like strawberries runs much smoother than KK, battery life is great, all my apps are working, no faults with it what so ever.
The few issues I think many people are having with it and a lot seem to be complaining about, is HTC themselves haven't listened to anyone, the issues are with sense that HTC bang on top of Google's Android, the widgets are still to small and don't come right down, however there is a mod to fix this, cant stand the ugly white and black background on the clock and weather widget, im using Chronus for my clock and weather at the moment, I do miss xposed but not enough to revert back, there are for now alternatives for what I used xposed for, they just take a bit of hunting down.
The sense version of Lollipop is still a baby at the moment and Dev's are working on their apps already for Lollipop including xposed, it will come.
You have to remember that the ROM which LabFooter posted a few days ago is still very much in beta stage. its a leak and still in testing, any issues found can still be fixed yet.

Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.

maritimesbob said:
Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.
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I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute

donkeykong1 said:
I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute
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Took the words right out of my mouth, lollipop looks and feels real nice. But the poor functionality due to all the bugs it's just not usable as an every day Rom :good:

Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike

sp5it said:
Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike
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Exactly!!! [emoji106]

Aosp Roms

Hey guys. I searched for some answers but came up empty handed. My question is how come we don't have any aosp Roms yet? Are there any in the works? Is there something particular holding back their development? Just got my note 5 recently and trying to catch up on the development here.
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Sadly this is why : http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
Even if Samsung opens up it's too late as many of the talented people have long gone. Also with Samsung making TW less bloaty (With built in theme support) and Xposed you really don't need a AOSP rom much anymore.

Thanks for sharing. That's a bummer I looked but didn't come up on that article. I just prefer an aosp rom option. I usually nand my favorite tw and favorite aosp Roms to switch up when I'm bored
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Get the Nexus 6P for AOSP

rawdaddymagraden said:
Thanks for sharing. That's a bummer I looked but didn't come up on that article. I just prefer an aosp rom option. I usually nand my favorite tw and favorite aosp Roms to switch up when I'm bored
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The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.

I wish it was that easy. I used my two Jumps this year, first on the g4 which I hated and the second on this. I don't have another till july. But I am thoroughly happy with this phone just wish I had the option to use aosp as it is updated and waiting for Samsung to update is pain staking.
idle0095 said:
Get the Nexus 6P for AOSP
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ickyboo said:
The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.
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I don't have this issue or I guess it doesn't affect me for what I use my phone for. Not sure
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Maybe I'm just a hardcore user as I notice most people don't have their phones as customized and set up as mine. I'm guessing Samsung has optimized the S6/Note5 for 99% of the other normal users who don't multitask much.

download a kernel and lower the lmk

ickyboo said:
The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.
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i also Have a Nexus 6 and its the same, in fact, none of my Android phones has actually keep programs open in background for long period, no matter wich Rom i use. After while it needs to reopen the app