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Poor video quality...

Hey guys, Are any of you experiancing really poor video results? If i hole the camera still the video quality is just fine, but big time problems happen when i move the camera. The upper portion of the video start to have lines of pixelation that almost deems the camera unusable. Its not satisfying at all to watch these videos. Really disapointed. Anyone else seeing anything like this?
Check out how pixelated this gets when moving around. And this is not even close to the worst that ive seen with it so far. Youll have to cops and paste as the forum doesn not allow new users to insert direct links.
youtube.com/watch?v=KLhNKGJ-Y7k
This one is even worse..... really sorry bout the gross dirsty dishes guys!
youtube.com/watch?v=OjcflxUkX6o

You've probably got it set to FULL HD, right? I've not really paid that much attention to what happens when moving the camera... This is probably an issue with all cameras of this type.. it's just not going to produce the same results as pro quality gear :-/

I had the same results on all resolution settings.
I have a 32g class 10 card..... but also tried recording straight to the phone... all with the same results.

Get something like a GoPro for recording your street races! '92 Hatch
j/k If your looking for good video / pic quality HTC wouldn't be the way to go. I know they're getting better, but they're not there yet.

It feels more like a softwar bug more than anything else, like the camera is trying to do way to much adjusting to light levels when you move it. I wish there was like just a way to turn light adjustments off. Disclaimer... i have no idea what I am talking about.

rquinn19 said:
Get something like a GoPro for recording your street races! '92 Hatch
j/k If your looking for good video / pic quality HTC wouldn't be the way to go. I know they're getting better, but they're not there yet.
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Those days are long over. Had a honda k20a2 EG that I had to part out for $$$ when me and the wife split. I miss it.. lol

Video Recording etc,

Hey guys, been watching a few videos on the Nexus 4 now and one thing that has really impressed me so far is the video recording, and more specifically the microphone when recording.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IZIG-YnLhE
Just thought I'd shove this video here, im sure some of you have seen it already but is it just me or is the microphone really clear?
Im currently using the iPhone 4s and the microphone isn't as good as this. The video is a little shaky but I'm sure if mounted on a tri-pod (with an adapter of course) it should work fine.
Edit, then again, this video says otherwise.. http://youtu.be/M4CbYXKxj6I

The microphone is average, but the frame rate overwhelms it on the negative side.

Can anyone mod a 30fps video or is the problem of 22fps , in the sensor itself ?

The sensor IS capable of 30fps (even more). Software isn't taking full advantage of the sensor. Maybe on a more recent build the problem is already fixed, but no one on more recent builds posted an unedited video

Wat sensor does it have?
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I take my Atrix 2 as a benchmark, and since it's a phone from end-2011, for progress' sake, the N4 should beat it hands down.
Sound-wise, the Atrix 2 does near camcorder-quality and beats the N4 by a long shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ii2Q7FJ5bA
Image-wise, the N4 looks good. Remember that youtube videos are often compressed badly and stutter on their own. It is sharp and there's plenty of details, judging from the op's second link, but the framerate is poor. My Atrix2's recording frame rate is always 30 fps, and image quality is just a tad worse.
So may I ask google, is it that difficult to do, with top-notch hardware, what motorola did 1 year ago with now-outdated chips?

Doesn't youtube cap videos at 30fps?

MizuhoChan said:
Doesn't youtube cap videos at 30fps?
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Nope, It reinterprets higher framerates into 30frames, unless the slowmotion effect is going to be employed, in which case it keeps the extra frames. What looks to be the problem is the recording refresh rate. The output of the codec file is always going to be a standard (24/30 in NTSC, 25 in PAL), whether or not there are actual frames there, is determined by the refresh rate.
My point is that youtube isn't going to reinterpret the video and change the framerate.

What is wrong with the FPS?
This phone just gets worse :\

Im more interested in the mic. In some videos its decent, others its terrible?
The video looks fine, stop complaining. Do I have to go on about the price like everyone does?
This is going to be a hard week, I have to use an iPhone, sold my SGS2 ):

roughavoc said:
The video looks fine, stop complaining. Do I have to go on about the price like everyone does?
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No, it doesn't.
You can go on about the price, but you'll still be wrong, since other devices at a lot of pricing ranges are able to maintain 30fps video recording.
And since not everyone is able to buy from the Google Market (there's a thing called "rest of the world"), and price outside is REALLY higher, you'll be double wrong.
As said a lot around, seems to be a software bug, making the camera module basically "take a lot of photos" instead of "making a video". The camera itself IS able to do [email protected] and [email protected] The S4 processor and 2GB of RAM are more than capable of dealing with the support necessary.
Google/LG are likely to NOT fix it, but I hope someday the community here manages to.

Is it recorded in 1080p? If so I think it will look smooth in 720p.

Frunobulax said:
Google/LG are likely to NOT fix it, but I hope someday the community here manages to.
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Bet you lots of money that it's fixed on launch day - producing 30FPS videos like a champ. NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A FINAL VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE. And judging by the performance increase within the last few days on at least one N4 device, I'm going take an educated guess and say that Google are releasing software updates once every 2 or 3 days before the launch and my honest opinion is that Google are impairing things on purpose so that no one from the company runs off with a device and chucks it on eBay for quad profit.

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Bet you lots of money that it's fixed on launch day - producing 30FPS videos like a champ. NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A FINAL VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE. And judging by the performance increase within the last few days on at least one N4 device, I'm going take an educated guess and say that Google are releasing software updates once every 2 or 3 days before the launch (...)
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Well, I'm putting a few chips here. I sincerely hope you win, but I think the chances are abysmal that they care about such "secondary" stuff. They fixed the S4, I saw that benchmark. But no one commented about a camera fix.
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(...)and my honest opinion is that Google are impairing things on purpose so that no one from the company runs off with a device and chucks it on eBay for quad profit.
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Now that was just tinfoilhatted.

Smoothvideo Project (SVP)

From the website:
"SVP allows you to watch any video on your PC file with frame interpolation (like you can watch it on high-end TVs and projectors). It increases frame rate by generating intermediate animation frames between existing ones to produce very smooth, fluid and clear motion. The technology is well-known for a while ("TrimensionDNM", "Motion Plus", "Motionflow" and others), but now it's available for free to PC users with simple GUI and just a couple of mouse clicks.
SVP provides GPU acceleration and it's possible to watch FullHD 1080p-video recalculated to 60Hz in real-time with mid-range CPU and almost any GPU hardware.
SVP actually is not a video player itself, but it enables almost any player to play smooth video."
I've been using this for a few days now and have been blown away by it. The initial kneejerk reaction when using it for the first time is that it's a little odd. We're so used to seeing video played back at the same low frame rates that we've had for decades that it takes a little time for the brain to adapt. For the first couple of hours of using it myself i had no intention of keeping it installed. After the second day of using it you couldn't pay me to go back to watching low frame rate video again! It's a night and day difference.
I could go on being effusive but you really need to try it yourselves to make your own minds up. All i would say is use it for a couple of days. You'll be impressed. The SVP package includes, and is preconfigured for MPC-HC. It does work with other players too though. I would recommend installing the full package using the default settings, ensuring that you've removed any other instances of MPC, Codecs and Filters first. And you do need reasonably decent hardware to run it well too.
Playing back a 1080 video uses 40% on all cores with my 3770K and 25% on my GTX570. I for one am actually glad to have something to run on a daily basis that justifies having spent money on good hardware though. Today i've watched a selection of HD movies and sport and each time it's taken my breath away how life-like everything appears. The clarity and immersion is incredible.
Here are some more links about SVP and HFR video:
Guru3D
Short Wikipedia entry
Interactive Demo
Demo Videos
Here are two short clips from Sons Of Anarchy. The first is normal framerate and the second at 60fps:
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The difference should be immediately obvious watching those two clips. If it's your first time watching HFR playback you might have experienced what people call the 'soap opera effect'. I know i did. That's what takes getting used to, but you soon do. It's LFR video that looks wrong to me now!
The flip side to using Frame Interpolation is artifacting. I found it intolerable with the default SVP settings, but setting 'Artifacts Masking' to 'Strongest' in each Profile has almost completely eliminated it for me. I might notice it once or twice during an entire movie only using that setting. Beside that, you might want to select the option for running SVP at Windows Startup and disabling the SVP On Screen Display too.
It's a profound change. James Cameron and Peter Jackson say it's the future of film. I would agree. Give it a go and see for yourselves.

Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.

Jessica said:
Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.
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It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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Is it free?
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DanceOff said:
It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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I know what it is.

Jessica said:
I know what it is.
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Lets be straight you were wrong firstly stop promoting amazon on aliens private chat forum
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Is there a tl;dr version?

jaszek said:
Is there a tl;dr version?
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No its a super boost mod for space ship DX-164B
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sy224048 said:
Is it free?
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I know its tl; dr but at least read the first paragraph.

I'm watching live sport at normal framerate right now and it looks like a stuttering, jittery mess. Once you go HFR, you can't go back.

Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.

Will give this a try, i am used to that effect on the TV already, it wont matter.
Aaand welcome back Dirk! Again!
Quoting wiki here "Thomas Edison said that 46 frames per second was the minimum: 'anything less will strain the eye.'"

jaszek said:
Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.
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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.

veeman said:
Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.

veeman said:
Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.

Yup Hobbit was 48fps..they are critics after all. I thought higher fps in 3D=less strain.
Anyway, I tried reading about this whole frame rate and eye thing yesterday night and gave up. Glad i didn't take up medicine in college...

jaszek said:
I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.
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The human eye doesn't see in still frames, The reason why shooting at 24fps became standard was because first, it was just high enough to give a sequence of images a continuous look, while second being not so high that it became too expensive in celluloid costs.
As for The Hobbit. Remember the kneejerk reaction i mentioned? After a century of film being played back at 24fps we have become used to that. Of course it looks a little strange at first when seeing HFR for the first time. For most people, watching The Hobbit was the very first time they had been exposed to it. A lot of people conceded that by the end of the film they had not only grown accustomed to it, but also didn't notice it any more. It took all of a couple of hours for the soap opera effect to disappear for me too, as it does for everyone. As i said in the OP, you have to use it for a day.
Have a look at the Poll results on CNET. Most people liked the HFR version of The Hobbit btw:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57559560-221/poll-did-you-like-the-smoother-hfr-hobbit/
As i said before, i've used SVP all weekend on a variety of media and it is amazing. Once i had to watch something at normal speed after being adapted to HFR it really exposed the difference. LFR is a stuttering, blurry mess in comparison.
HFR is the future. James Cameron has already committed to it for his future projects. Most good quality HDTVs are released now with different implementations of Interpolation that people are getting used to using. SVP just brings that ability to the PC/HTPC. The same software also makes it possible to re-encode any movie you have made to 60fps ready for uploading or sharing, but improving the quality of them. Great for fast moving gameplay videos. The package also includes SVPTube, a nifty little app that lets you play back YouTube videos in real time with HFR applied to it. Pretty cool!

Ichigo said:
My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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Ah that's the second naruto refrence I had to read today. Well I'll give it a try.
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Ichigo said:
My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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I used to be so into anime that i got it
This program is free though right?
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[Q] Underwhelming demo experience at Best Buy - thoughts?

OK, Just went to Best Buy to demo the gear VR. First - the demo time is limited to 3 minutes which made it a little difficult to get a good idea.
My major problem with the demo was the image quality. Now I was not expecting miracles. I have read the forums and expected sd effect but this was major sd. Large pixels were unfocused where one could see the red/green/blue. It was almost like an old crt that had been badly focused. I almost wondered if they had a bum unit.
I was watching the trailers in the movie theaters btw.
So Im wondering - is this basically the quality one should expect from the VR currently? Has anyone had experience loading their own films on the unit and is the quality better than the trailers loaded on the unit?
Any opinions would be appreciated (Again - Im wondering if the unit they had was just a bad one)
Thanks

stevegee111 said:
OK, Just went to Best Buy to demo the gear VR. First - the demo time is limited to 3 minutes which made it a little difficult to get a good idea.
My major problem with the demo was the image quality. Now I was not expecting miracles. I have read the forums and expected sd effect but this was major sd. Large pixels were unfocused where one could see the red/green/blue. It was almost like an old crt that had been badly focused. I almost wondered if they had a bum unit.
I was watching the trailers in the movie theaters btw.
So Im wondering - is this basically the quality one should expect from the VR currently? Has anyone had experience loading their own films on the unit and is the quality better than the trailers loaded on the unit?
Any opinions would be appreciated (Again - Im wondering if the unit they had was just a bad one)
Thanks
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Did you try adjusting the focus wheel?

Yes - the focus wheel had little to no effect. Almost as if it was there for show.

Possibly broken but remember it's only a QHD screen so there will be pixels visable. We need to wait for 8k screens... I love me gearvr and amazed our phones offer this ability
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-

Sounds like a defective unit to me. Yes the picture isn't perfect but "unfocused and can see the red/green/blue "definitely not. I've watched gravity, avatar ,xmen and godzilla all in 3d on the vr and obviously it's not like watching in on a hd TV but you are watching it on a 100ft large screen in a virtual cinema which you can't do at home

Wondering - Has anyone loaded on hd rips of movies and watched them vs the trailers that they have pre-loaded?
Is the quality improved? Maybe their trailers are low bit rate. Thanks

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Sounds like a defective unit to me. Yes the picture isn't perfect but "unfocused and can see the red/green/blue "definitely not. I've watched gravity, avatar ,xmen and godzilla all in 3d on the vr and obviously it's not like watching in on a hd TV but you are watching it on a 100ft large screen in a virtual cinema which you can't do at home
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Doesn't sound broke. I can always see the red/green/blue in pixels when focused. It always reminded me of CRT TVs.

I don't see the red/green/blue at all. Sounds like defected units. Also my pixals are extremely small. Maybe because I have 15/20 vision with my contacts in? I don't know.

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I don't see the red/green/blue at all. Sounds like defected units. Also my pixals are extremely small. Maybe because I have 15/20 vision with my contacts in? I don't know.
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I see them pretty clearly

They are visible if you focus your attention on them. Once you focus your mind on video or game they disappear.
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I believe focus issues have a lot to do with the alignment of your eyes and the 3D effect. If you eyes are not aligned properly then the 3D effect may create a double image
Also I've noticed the eyepad with the nose bridge included positions the device on your face for better focus.
Another issue is just getting used to a slightly screen door image. Also remenber these movies et al are largely in FHD not QHD and that is also hurting the experience.
If your phone is rooted you can also increase the DPI which may help with pixel size.
Part of enjoying this is your brain just getting used to it. I find that focusing tightly on what I'm looking at as opposed to generally staring in a direction helps focus. Its not that focus with the unit is poor so much as the 3D tech is imperfectly tuned for each person. Also I think we've come to expect 3D things to jump out at us; however thus is not the effect 3D has in real life. In real life 3D merely adds depth and that is what this does more than in your face hollywood 3D.
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Try setting your DPI to 400.

Galaxy S7 Edge VR Gear is Terrible, no details no resolution bad bad

Hi,
ordered sgs7edge so i received my VR gear...
I was happy,
but VR Gear is bad...
in 1950 the Quality of picture was same or better... TERRIBLE
Terribile, un watchable.... discovery movie, ha ha ha, it was like bad bad old cinema, it is impossible to read...or see the face...
pictures are so bad, you can't see nature or colors, you see mega pixels and no resolution, NO DETAILS... so if you watch nature, you are not sure what are you watching..you can't see face of narrator, without details.. 240p is better,,
on phone display, pictures are good, but after you put vr on, is bad bad bad...
i think that screen of s7 is not good,,,too much big pixels... 8K or 4K display are better
even menu in VR is difficult to read...
and i was impressed that even Facebook Mark was on presentation...Did he try this '' new technology?''
if this is technology for 2016... please go home...oculus and samsung...
menu of vr gear is un watchable too.... and everything in their shop is for pay...pay for what?
it is o.k. for tree years children,for some stupid game but for me is not good, i want at least 720p quality when i watch something on VR.... but 120p quality is not for 2016
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kikanx

Yes. It's true. Very disappointed as well.

When watching a 1080p Blu-ray 3D rip it looks amazing. You must be streaming with low bandwidth.

Please learn how to write out a well thought complain instead of the giberish I attempted read.

Seems like someone didn't adjust the VR to fit there sight....

While I don't have the VR yet for S7E, but I used to have S6E, and paired it with 2nd gen Gear VR and i can say it's awesome, even though maybe it's not full 4K or whatever.

I've got my S7 Edge with the VR headset as well and I do admit while fun, the resolution isn't all that fantastic. I wasn't expecting much from £80 worth of VR headset and while it is entertaining at first, it'll most likely end up in the box gathering dust.

Setting settings settings. look in the settings. lol the resolution is superb if you set it up right
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The screen is 1440p
What you smoking bhai?
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1440 x 2560

AVriANCE said:
I've got my S7 Edge with the VR headset as well and I do admit while fun, the resolution isn't all that fantastic. I wasn't expecting much from £80 worth of VR headset and while it is entertaining at first, it'll most likely end up in the box gathering dust.
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totali agree with you.
i have my friends here and all are disappointing by VR quality .... you can read or see object.. city is but you can't see it good... 240p on tv is better...
this VR Gear must be free of charge....
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Kikanx

Tried to launch the netflix VR app, maybe I had to high expectations but the resolution was pretty bad.
and YES i adjusted everything the right way.

I'm getting the impression here that the quality of your videos may be hampered by your connection speed. The first 10-15 seconds of the free videos via Vimeo come through looking awful initially, but once the buffer is set and the phone knows what speed it can utilise, the video cracks right into the best quality I've seen.

so my expectations to use this to watch movies on a plane is shot because the quality looks like crap?

yeah it's not that great but what did you guys expect.. you are looking at a phone screen from about 5 cms away - and it's going to be magnified. of course you are going to see pixels and it's not going to be crystal clear and sharp etc.
but the gear vr was never intended to be a awesomely high quality experience.. not for £80 pounds. For that you can pay £600 for the oculus rift or the HTC vive. The gear VR is good for introducing people to VR and just general fun for the sake of fun.

I can attest that the Gear VR does really expose the pixels on your screen. Yes, it's a 2560x1440 screen and the screen itself is possibly the best screen ever put onto a phone, but you can SEE the pixels themselves when wearing the gear VR. The way the lenses magnify it to achieve the FOV, even watching a 4K-made VR porno (yes, a VR porn) you could see pixels noticably. I'd imagine the actual oculus doesnt have this issue as it does not rely on lenses magnifying a screen, but I won't know for sure until I try one. Overall, it takes a while to get used to the pixels but you can get used to it, especially with gaming content which shows it far less than filmed stuff does

actually having compared it with the cardboard, movies actually look better in the cardboard app using the cardboard gear...

It's a $100 headset. If you want true VR...plunk down $500-1000 for a Vive or Oculus Rift. Get over it.

You only need good and quality content.
Download and see any 360º / 180º xxx video from virtualrealporn (use a torrent searcher to get full videos), it's and amazing experience ,you will be change your opinion.

AVriANCE said:
I've got my S7 Edge with the VR headset as well and I do admit while fun, the resolution isn't all that fantastic. I wasn't expecting much from £80 worth of VR headset and while it is entertaining at first, it'll most likely end up in the box gathering dust.
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blwc said:
It's a $100 headset. If you want true VR...plunk down $500-1000 for a Vive or Oculus Rift. Get over it.
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ej, AVriANCE..... thank you for your reply ,
Do you have oculus rift ? Because it have even less resolution 2160 x 1200 so pixels are even bigger...i read reviews...
we need 8K dispay for 720p-1080p resolution in VR.
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tefots said:
You only need good and quality content.
Download and see any 360º / 180º xxx video from virtualrealporn (use a torrent searcher to get full videos), it's and amazing experience ,you will be change your opinion.
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thanks for info...
. i will..
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kikanx

It's stupid to talk about resolution and not see the true beauty of VR.
I was quite amazed on how interesting the VR content can be and how it transposes you into another world.