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[Q] What is best CM10 or ICS? Your thoughts and opinions welcome.

What is best CM10 or ICS? Your thoughts and opinions welcome.
Especially regarding a daily use rom. What experince with H/W acceleration in both especially with gameloft gaming.
Glitches pros and cons for both roms?
What's your experience?
Here is mine
CM10 nightly.
Very buggy camera kills it for me for starters.
Odd lockups and random freezing.
Games work fine and external sd can be swapped with internal very easy.
Bluetooth okay
Wifi okay
Calls messy at times with noise dropouts.
Browser lockups
Sms fine
Battery poor life
ICS 28g Steffans build with clockwork nv flash partition.
Superb camera no issues.
Some slowdows in general but nothing to hard to improve or live with.
Games from gameloft run great so far.
Bluetooth ok
Wifi Seems to need turning on off every so often.
Calls again messy at times with loss of radio.
Browser lockups and hanging.
Sms fine
Battery Poor life at times then great at others. Very strange battery behaviour.
So what's you'r experiences?

I'am on cm10 for long time,have almost no issues but like you said cam is awfull
Is camera in ics leaks really soo much better like you said?Good camera is a must for me couse i take alot of pic's and record video much Tnx

I have been using both CM10 and ICS on mine, and I found that CM10 is smoother but ICS is way more stable of course. The cameras...I haven't found a difference but that's just me. I like a lot of ICS features, and miss some from CM10 too but I guess it's all right.
I'm currently running ICS for about a week or so and no problems at all.

As far as i know, until now, i liked to use ICS fresh from kdz..because i dont want my phone don't have basic function as a phone and i dont want stuck with GB..
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ICS--> FC , BSOD and reboot. Better GB.

i have had no problems with the v28e by tony and harsh
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I do not have any problems with ICS V28G,

Tried ics v28g(old partition style) and no matter what i do i can't get even near to perfomance of cm10
Uninstalling all the lg software and putting no memory hungry launcher and ics still lag's and performes slow on my device.
Never had call issues on any rom so i can't comment on that part...
For me cm10 is much faster then ics i have tried but ics has better camera and looks nicer..
Can't wait for our devs to start kanging cm10

CM10 is the best ROM by far, but the problem Ive been having with no audio in calls made me switch fo ICS. Its not as fast as CM10, but at least ppl can hear me now =D

Have been using the stock ICS rom by tonyp, and I must say that it's great so far.
I have random restarts maybe like once every 3 days, probably due to low ram or my V6 supercharger script..
Camera works fine, I don't really use it though.
Fast, fluent scrolling and stable, no call problems.
The only problem I have is, Chrome and the stock browser lags like mad.. And I have no idea why.
Does anyone know why?

both rom gud,
camera also ok for both. just focusing bug on cm10, and low bit rate on ics video camera.
battery bug on both.
no call issue on both Rom for me.
hardware acceleration have some bug on both.
conclusion both Rom require further bug fixing(they are on their way i think)
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fluxthesky said:
The only problem I have is, Chrome and the stock browser lags like mad.. And I have no idea why.
Does anyone know why?
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Same here..
I used v28G from kdz, no root, no cwm
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I was on Temasek's CM7 Kang wanted to try ICS So First i tested Cm10
No Audio in calls meant i had to change , then came V28E by stefan
then shifted to V28G
Good Things
Camera is very good as compared to CM7
No audio issues on V28E/G although this happened to me once in few calls but it was back to normal in no time.
ICS is a good change,was bored using GB plus lockscreen is good.
Issues
Stock browser is near unusable,others work fine(i use opera mini).
I do notice strange behaviour with the battery sometimes, Wifi drain is hell of a lot compared to Cm7 but do tell me if anyone of u have noticed i think the battery drain on 3g is less with these new roms as compared to CM7
it is less smooth than CM10 but is bearable besides its not like there's a choice who wudnt wanna use CM10 but till the Call issue is sorted i am gonna continue with this one.
i really really miss the Led light notifications on Whatsapp,sms,missed calls, any alternative for that?
i really really hate when it starts to scan media 10 fkin times day, any alternative?

What is the best Threads are not allowed on XDA.

HELP , im using CM10 and i cant conect to my Google account,so no google play as well,dont have the option add google account just e-mail and corporate account.Haven't done a factory reset so i still have my app's from CM7.2,most works great
LOVE the camera app especially video focus in macro,but battery life is bad,

I think I speak for everyone when i say that the main reason people use V28 over CM10 is the call audio bug. I'm using V28E (I dont know the difference between the E and G so if someone would kindly explain the pros and cons) and it is significantly slower than cm 10 but still fairly usable. But honestly, cm10 is BLAZING fast, I've never used a rom that fast before. Its sooo sexyyyy. Damn this call audio bug :crying:

Hello everyone!
I have used both the CM10 and ICS (V28G co-developed by Harsh). The pro's and con's I've observed in these ROMS are as follows-
ICS (V28G leak)-
Pro's-
1)Very stable. No bugs as of now.
2)New interface is of joy to use.
3)Camera works.
4)I see that the CPU is set to a max of 1200MHz.
5)AnTutu benchmark score - 5530 , Nenamark - 42.9 Fps , Quadrant - Significant improvement.
6)No call drop issues.
Con's-
1)Wasn't reading the memory card (External memory) at all. (solved this by creating a new folder called "external_sd" in the root of the internal SD card.)
2)Slow USB charging. Wall charger just works fine.
3)Video recording has its own bugs, that refers to low frame rates.
CM10-
Pro's-
1)Ultra smooth interface.
2)Stable too. Didn't face any hangs after a day of heavy usage.
Con's-
1)Camera is awful. Video recording just lags everytime.
2)Slow charging, both wall charging and USB.
3)Lesser scores in all benchmarks. (Project butter eats them all up)
I'll update more on the ICS as i'm using it currently.
Cheers!

If u want stable better battery n smooth rom, then go for ICS......
If u can live with few bugs n want to experience the speed of jellybean then go for cm10....
I prefer ICS since ill b out for 2-3 days i need more stable n better battery life rom......
Finally its individuals call.......:laugh:

I'm sticking with ICS V28E, but I'm having troubles with my battery. Seems to die very quickly and sometimes overheats and turns off when i try to wall charge. It also way too long to charge through laptop usb. Anyone having similar problems?

i use v28g by topogigi no bugs found ^^

[Q] Security during calls on ICS STOCK ROMS

Good Morning Everyone
For some reason security lock (PIN, PATTERN) is not working during a call and phone keeps being unlocked in ICS STOCK ROMS (DJANGO, CIVATO, OPTI) (in CM10 ROMS works perfectly but sadly those ROMS have many bugs for my device anyway). I'm trying to find a solution for the lock because I don't want if somebody else uses the phone during a call to have access to my device as well. I already tried GO LOCKER but I have the same issue and I also tried changing kernels (STOCK, KOB, KOWALSKI). Do you guys know any workarounds? I sadly cannot go back to CM10 because I get freezes, cam issues, reboots, freezes during calls etc...
Thank in advance guys
John (ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ)

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[Q] Bugs, bugs, bugs

Dear all,
it is my first try to run cyanogenmod (10.1 Rel 7) on my SGS+. But when using it, I immediately found plenty of issues:
- Navigation is only partially working. After a while the maps starts jumping around and dark semi transparent overlay sections appear so that one cannot see the full map. In the forum I found the hint to deactivate Dithering. Done. Only little improvement.
- Alarm clock is not working when the phone is turned off.
- Screen goes off after dialing a number (workaround: lift phone to the ear and lower it back down -> screen is on again).
- No FM radio app (in comparison to the stock rom).
- Skype video is still upside down (as with stock rom).
My colleagues were very enthusiastic about cyanogen mod. In contrast, I haven't really detected the advantages. Are the developpers still working on the issues? Is there anything I can do to support you guys?

To answer your queries:
-Navigation- use the bug reporting method on the CM10.1 forums and submit it as a bug report either in the S CM10.1 thread or on JIRA. More details are given in the CM10.1 thread OP.
-This feature doesn't work even on stock. Its not a bug, and its not just CM10.1. MIUI allows this apparently however.
-This is normal, not a bug either. When you call someone the screen goes off because you're going to lift it to your ear anyway. The 'workaround' is actually the proximity sensor, and a similar thing happens on stock roms. The only solution to this is to press a button when the screen initially turns off.
-FM Radio isn't included in CM builds by default, as the API needed for it needs some intense changes made to it. There's Spirit FM if you want to run the risk. Check out the thread for more information.
-Skype on CM10.x is a known issue
Try CM10.2 and see if that helps the first issue, if not, report it using the methods in the CM threads. Otherwise everything else is as normal/known.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk HD

Irrespective of a few bugs there are definitely a number of advantages to using CM.
Have you noticed how smooth CM10.1 is? For me it's smoother than stock. Definitely a plus.
The pre-installed applications are more polished/work better and you actually have control over them. Don't like one? You can remove it. Unlike stock where you are stuck with a lot of junk (unless you have rooted your phone).
Bugfixes! We're no longer stuck with a 2 year old version of an OS for which we don't receive any bugfixes.
Customizability. CM gives you a lot more features to have your phone just the way you want it.
Overclocking and undervolting.
Not everyone had this problem, but my phone took > 5 minutes to get a GPS fix on stock. It takes < 10 seconds on CM.
And that's just what I came up with in a few minutes. Yes, there will be a few bugs and features which you think are weird (like the screen turning off when you make a call) but you'll find that on any piece of software. If you personally feel CM is a downgrade then it's your right to think so and go back to stock ROM. That doesn't mean the average xda-user is going to agree with you though.
(I think there are also a few ROMs based on the stock 2.3.6 versions, but since I've never used them I wouldn't know which ones are worth trying.)

problems with latest Mackay ROMs

Hallo,
I am sorry, to post it here, but I cannot post in the related forums below 10 posts.
So I had 4.1.5 and it was great. I flashed 4.2.3 now and it was great until after pretty much one day, when it becomes slow, had the same issues with 4.2.2 (becomes slow after a day until reboot or downgrade to 4.1.5) where I downgraded again, but it is not possible anymore without resetting the launcher3 due to some changes.
It will crash repeatedly.
Any help?
Kind regards
neox

I've been using CM based Mackay ROM for a long time now, updating to every new version as they have been released, and have not experienced anything like what you are describing.
Also, you should have really posted in the Mackay ROM thread...
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@neox456! I am not sure I understand your problem fully. I have been using the same ROM since it came out for Kit Kat but never had a problem such as yours.
Could it be the no. of apps you have in your phone ? Or maybe because you aren't using low mem option (which was a feature of Kit Kat)?
It'd be good if you could explain your issues a bit briefly.

neox456 said:
Hallo,
I am sorry, to post it here, but I cannot post in the related forums below 10 posts.
So I had 4.1.5 and it was great. I flashed 4.2.3 now and it was great until after pretty much one day, when it becomes slow, had the same issues with 4.2.2 (becomes slow after a day until reboot or downgrade to 4.1.5) where I downgraded again, but it is not possible anymore without resetting the launcher3 due to some changes.
It will crash repeatedly.
Any help?
Kind regards
neox
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Did you install CM10.2 (stable) or CM11 before Mackay 4.2.3? This increases your partition giving you better performance and is recommended for KK roms. Try again with 3 wipes plus Format System first, then the CM11, 3 wipes and format again then the Mackay Rom. If you get into trouble, go back to GB 2.3.6 with ODIN like you did when you first rooted your phone and back up from there. Hope it works for you.

The difference was between 4.1.5 and 4.2.2/3. But I played around a little and the main difference was, that KSM was on with the later ones and not with 4.1.5 so I am pretty sure that slowed my device down after a while.
I'll try 4.2.3 without KSM now and see if it won't slow down.
I cannot answer on the official Mackay-Thread until I reached 10 posts!

neither can I yet...

Naaah, it did not really help...
But I guess it is the KitKat slow downs... it is not as horrible as 4.3, but still far from well usable.

neox456 said:
Naaah, it did not really help...
But I guess it is the KitKat slow downs... it is not as horrible as 4.3, but still far from well usable.
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Very strange.. I went all the way back to GB 2.3.6 then CM 10.2 (or 11) then SlimKat and it works really well with no FC or lags. (well maybe say max 2 second delay opening Whatsapp but I can live with that. Plus they all seem to have a 1 or 2 second delay when a call comes in for the screen to register.

Well... I am not sure... Maybe it is too many apps. At least they are not constanlty crashing like in JB4.3.
What about waking up the phone for you? Do you have a 2 seconds delay there, too? Well I sometimes have a more like 10-15 seconds delay. I press the power button and nothing happens and after a while you notice the phone is ready, because the LEDs are glowing and funnily you can already unlock it, although the screen does not show anything yet...
Well and sometimes it is only a few seconds...
I have always used CM or Mackay-CM... not sure, whether the other ROM will make such a big difference...

I had lags with CM in ICS so I went to Liquid smooth by aways .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223729
I like that one, no problems opening apps or answering phone call. Pkus he uses semaphore and the Nova Launcher which has a nice look and feel. Pluis customisable.
Then after to SlimKat, (after increasing partition using the CM11) which works pretty good. I will flash the mackay rom or the omni this weekend to see how it behaves in comparison.

I am down to CM9 (still Mackay) now and happy with it. :angel:
Some features got lost, but I am happy, because in general it is way more useable.

[guide] best roms/kernels for i9305

Hi all ! I made this thread to share with you my experience with i9305 roms/kernel and to make it easy to users which rom to choose ! I tried almost every rom/kernel for i9305 and here are my feedbacks.I didnt make thus thread to say this rom is good and this one is bad! just to compare depending on stability speed battery life ... on every android version you will find the best rom! Let's start
ROMS
Android Lollipop 5.x
Android Lollipop 5.1.x
AICP 9.0 Rom: I personally think that this is the best 5.1.x rom for i9305!
It s really fast and stable and has a great battery life
Note: RR rom is awesome also but aico is more stable (I got some fcs with RR)
Android 5.0.x
In android 5.0 I ll give to great roms to try
1.CyanogenMod 12 : even it is an unofficial rom but cm12 by winxuser is amazing specially stable build
2.AICP 8.0 : it is unofficial also but a very good rom
Androod KitKat 4.4.4
so in kk 4.4.4 I ll devide it to 3 sections : stock/stock based . Note 4 rom . S5 rom
Stock/stock based
I think Amcha rom is the best stock based 4.4 rom for i9305 ! n4 and s5 trasformers are there
Note 4
N4 Elite lite is the best
S5
S5 elite lite is the best
thanks @MaHo_66
Note: also qasim's note 4 ultimate rom is good but it has some bugs and issues
Alsi The Galaxy Project rom is amazing but it has less features compared to amcha
Kernels
For Lollipop 5.1.x
Agni 2.9.1 is the only one currently
For Lollipop 5.0.x
Boeffla is the best in battery life
Archie is the best in features
For KitKat
Agni kernel is the best
Thanks all

Thanks for your opinions. I planning to make S3 LTE my next phone, and for someone who is just starting here, knowing what others are enjoying the use of is great start for my flashing beginnings. Especially with the huge list of ROMs available. I know these "best ROM" threads are normally looked down upon, but I always value others opinions. Good starting point for S3 LTE noobs.

I've tried quite a few ROMs on my I9305. Only had it a few months.
CM12.1 - very smooth, the smoothest I've tried. GPS takes minutes to fix and not very accurate, data unreliable, many video playback problems, so I reluctantly left it (at BETA 4 stage).
AICP 8 (5.0.2) - quite smooth but I could not get rid of an issue with music dropouts when screen is off, despite trying all the kernels etc. A few extra features like ad blockers which didn't seem to work too well.
CM11 - very smooth (smoother still with ART on). GPS also not very good and data unreliable, but video playback at least is OK. Sleep of death on occasions. Seemed to chop the beginning off sound notifications, so didn't always hear them. Music drops out when cell connectivity changes. More bugs that I've forgotten. This was last month so I doubt it's any better now.
N4 Elite (KK stock based) - very pretty but very laggy. If you disable (root app delete) most of the features it gets better but still laggy. Smooth one minute, laggy the next, as though some process was misbehaving. Worth keeping an eye on in case it gets smoother.
S5 Elite (KK stock based) - a lot of trouble to install for some reason, lots of connectivity issues, completely failed to connect to my office wifi at all (EAP auth). Didn't try it for very long so no idea about GPS etc.
4.4.4 stock - no major problems, a few graphical glitches (may have been Agni kernel), not quite as smooth as 4.3, no reason to use it over 4.3 as we had transparent status bar anyway and Samsung did not enable ART.
4.3 stock - everything works! Data and Wifi are reliable, GPS fixes in seconds and is accurate to 10 feet, no issues or glitches with anything at all. And it's smooth. Not as smooth as CM12.1 but smoother than any KK rom I tried. This is with lots of the Samsung crap turned off/deleted of course.
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I should add that I am using 4.3 at the moment. I like trying the new ROMs but eventually I just want a phone that works properly so I go back to 4.3!

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I have to agree Amcha too is my favourite stock based. Smooth and great with Google launcher.
I have tried all the 5.x ROMs and as a CM fan go CM12 closely followed by AICP both using custom kernel as I need the extra volume being a bit deaf.
But at the moment I'm using the new Miui 6 rom . I have to say thanks to those who work on it - its smooth , very fast, decent battery life, excellent modem in the UK, bug free from what I can see and just works well. It takes a bit of setting up to clear up some of the CN apps etc but definitely my daily for now. I'm sticking with 4.4.4 because I use iPlayer a lot and sadly none of the 5.x's will run on it yet.
Updated to 5.6.6 today
Now has 4 way boot and more toggles ie Sync among other fixes/improvements. OTA appears broken but downloaded from the miui link and flashed in 'normal' way.
*Mega download doesn't seem to work on mobile - just opens Mega app advert for the Playstore .

Glenn2 said:
I've tried quite a few ROMs on my I9305. Only had it a few months.
CM12.1 - very smooth, the smoothest I've tried. GPS takes minutes to fix and not very accurate, data unreliable, many video playback problems, so I reluctantly left it (at BETA 4 stage).
AICP 8 (5.0.2) - quite smooth but I could not get rid of an issue with music dropouts when screen is off, despite trying all the kernels etc. A few extra features like ad blockers which didn't seem to work too well.
CM11 - very smooth (smoother still with ART on). GPS also not very good and data unreliable, but video playback at least is OK. Sleep of death on occasions. Seemed to chop the beginning off sound notifications, so didn't always hear them. Music drops out when cell connectivity changes. More bugs that I've forgotten. This was last month so I doubt it's any better now.
N4 Elite (KK stock based) - very pretty but very laggy. If you disable (root app delete) most of the features it gets better but still laggy. Smooth one minute, laggy the next, as though some process was misbehaving. Worth keeping an eye on in case it gets smoother.
S5 Elite (KK stock based) - a lot of trouble to install for some reason, lots of connectivity issues, completely failed to connect to my office wifi at all (EAP auth). Didn't try it for very long so no idea about GPS etc.
4.4.4 stock - no major problems, a few graphical glitches (may have been Agni kernel), not quite as smooth as 4.3, no reason to use it over 4.3 as we had transparent status bar anyway and Samsung did not enable ART.
4.3 stock - everything works! Data and Wifi are reliable, GPS fixes in seconds and is accurate to 10 feet, no issues or glitches with anything at all. And it's smooth. Not as smooth as CM12.1 but smoother than any KK rom I tried. This is with lots of the Samsung crap turned off/deleted of course.
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I should add that I am using 4.3 at the moment. I like trying the new ROMs but eventually I just want a phone that works properly so I go back to 4.3!
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Could you take screenshot which Samsung crap you turned off for 4.3?

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Could you take screenshot which Samsung crap you turned off for 4.3?
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I don't know I used something called rom cleaner right after I flashed it.
I've now found a better option anyway - Amcha ROM. It's based on stock Samsung 4.4.4 (so everything works) but it is de-bloated from the start, and has plenty of options in the aroma installer for adding extras that you want and removing stuff that you don't. It's also extremely smooth. You get a choice of three UI styles - S3 (stock), S5 and N4. I tried the N4 option but that still has some issues with colours I think (some menus with white text on white). The S5 UI is perfect and has no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development-i9305/rom-amcha-rom-kk-simply-cust-t2898961

Glenn2 said:
I don't know I used something called rom cleaner right after I flashed it.
I've now found a better option anyway - Amcha ROM. It's based on stock Samsung 4.4.4 (so everything works) but it is de-bloated from the start, and has plenty of options in the aroma installer for adding extras that you want and removing stuff that you don't. It's also extremely smooth. You get a choice of three UI styles - S3 (stock), S5 and N4. I tried the N4 option but that still has some issues with colours I think (some menus with white text on white). The S5 UI is perfect and has no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development-i9305/rom-amcha-rom-kk-simply-cust-t2898961
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You can also mix up the Stock i9305, S5 and Note 4 styles if you wish. I 'experimented' as I kind of prefer the Stock menu style rather than the coloured circles for About, Wifi etc, but like inparticular Note 4 styling. The white on white bug could do with a fix though.

on stock jb my i9305 was always a battery eater.
I tried many roms but all had problems . .
I found r-extreme jb and everything worked nicely for ages, till I got sdcard corruption. . a jb/kernel issue, can't remember now. But kk was maturing, and I wanted better battery life. .
Then I found SlimSaber 4.4.4. The camera just worked, unlike other kk roms that need workarounds. The display dpi was far too small for my aged eyes but easy to fix. Gps required an app to set region, then it worked fine. Some cut and try with modems, as usual. I find the "real dark slim" very clear to read.
Then google-play-services auto updated and the phone never went to deep sleep. My battery problems got worse. None of the "fixes" worked so I re-installed and went gapps free. I imported my contacts from a vcf, email from the builtin email app, maps from nokias "here" app.
After 6 months the only thing I really miss is calendar sync, but for me battery life has now doubled and my phone is fast and lag free.