Variants - Galaxy Note 4 General

Is anyone else here as sick of Samsung and its variants as I am? I feel like this is my last Samsung as it is just too frustrating looking at all the development and none of it for my particular Chinese variant. I unlocked and flashed cyanogen onto a one plus the other day ... just seemed so much smoother and more interesting experience.

Yep.
This was my first shot at Samsung. It just seems so confused and corporate and no, not that one on this one, no, not this one on that one, and Samsung hogging all the space so I feel like they own me, kinda like Apple, and I don't know, I don't feel very looked after.
I'm heading to Huawei believe it or not. The Chinese are using good materials, are innovating within android, are more open with what you do with their phones.
I don't know. I don't feel very connected with Samsung.
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I don't feel like it will be my last samsung but yes they should h release a single universal device in every series.Although the basebands or network receivers could be different in each country
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kolembo said:
Yep.
This was my first shot at Samsung. It just seems so confused and corporate and no, not that one on this one, no, not this one on that one, and Samsung hogging all the space so I feel like they own me, kinda like Apple, and I don't know, I don't feel very looked after.
I'm heading to Huawei believe it or not. The Chinese are using good materials, are innovating within android, are more open with what you do with their phones.
I don't know. I don't feel very connected with Samsung.
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I don't feel like it will be my last samsung but yes they should h release a single universal device in every series.Although the basebands or network receivers could be different in each country
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I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling this way - I wasn't sure if it was just because I am based in China that I feel this way. I currently prefer the idea of a Xiao Mi or One plus at this stage, even though I won't be ready for another phone till probably October next year. I think a big problem with some of these Chinese phones, seems to be that if you want the latest and greatest device, they never seem to have enough available or in stock till months down the track. I think Huawei sounds ok, but I also worry that I'll pick up something like a Huawei, and then it might not be suitable for me and have any Western Rom development (like my Note-bloody-4 N9108v). At least I suppose, I was able to grab the Note 4 almost immediately and avoided an impulse Apple purchase - even if I am stuck with Touch wiz and some other aspects.
You mentioned feeling a disconnect. I think I have this too - It's a strange feeling, as normally I track latest updates of possible new phones quite hotly, but the S6 is the first time I haven't felt any urge or inclination to buy or even read about a new top shelf phone. I wonder if it is this current experience with my Note 4 and the variants compared to my recent experience with my friend's one-plus.
At any rate, thanks for the responses.

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...At least I suppose, I was able to grab the Note 4 almost immediately and avoided an impulse Apple purchase...
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I giggled.
I'd absolutely die before I apple, I can't stand the thought of having a big Mother vetting everything I do.
Actually, the Note 4 was an impulse buy. It was the day after New Years - I was hungover (never again) and I couldn't find the HTC M8 with regular camera. My partner has the S4 and I have to admit, the camera rocks. So does this one. I don't mind the Note, the build is solid, the camera is excellent and I'm enjoying the stylus. The whole Samsung thing just feels so proprietary and the Samsung experience isn't the fun Android one I am used to. There is no theming, I can't fiddle without being afraid of something, I'm always tiered against some 'other Samsung' firmware/updates/chips - is mine not good enough, not one of theirs kinda thing, so certainly not feeling special for owning the device. The Huawei P7 has limitations - but you know, you buy the top Chinese for half the price, they treat you like a God, updates everywhere, special little things they do (Huawei is Emui and themes, fabulous), and the P7 looks and feels gorgeous - I go to bed with it!
Samsung has to go somewhere to remember how to make it's users feel special... It seems like they're all about themselves, the Note is fully capable... If I'm trying to change it or something, it's my fault, I'm somehow sub-par to the experience Samsung clearly is trying to create for me.
Dunno. Wish it were more fun. The Note is a very expensive too and it would be nice to feel treated accordingly, like you do when you suck it in and buy an Audi or a Merc on impulse (again, drunk or hung-over is the only way to do it I suspect!)
Anyway, interesting. I'll take a look at the S6 but my heart is already set on the glass-and-ceramic P8.
Meanwhile, I'll keep hitting the 'software update' button on my Samsung twice a day and pretend I don't already feel like I got the wrong Note 4 variant.
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Im looking at lg myself to

I don't care whether they have one or 100 versions of the same phone. It allows samsung to solve supply chain restrains (ej. Snapdragon or exynos) network differences and region market differences (for example dual sim version for the Asian market)

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Nokia N8 or Galaxy Nexus?

Looking to upgrade my HTC G2, since I'm kinda bored of it and dealing with custom ROMs and whatnot - I want something simple/fluid out of the box with official updates in the future for a little bit. Basically limited my phone search to two in particular - the Nokia N8 and the Galaxy Nexus.
The N8 draws me primarily for the camera (great quality + xenon flash), but also the plethora of other features compared to my G2 (AMOLED screen, HDMI out, front-facing camera, Bluetooth 3.0, USB OTG, lighter/smaller, pentaband, battery life). That, and the price - ~$350 for one in good condition and then $30/month for my current T-Mobile plan (best plan for my needs and cheapest price I've seen).
As for the Galaxy Nexus, it's most of the above plus a bigger screen/resolution (both a positive and a negative for me) and NFC (though I probably won't use it for a while as I have neither Mastercard nor Citibank). But...$650+ is a lot when that's about how much I paid for my M11x R1 laptop, especially since it's be more prone to accidents/loss/theft.
Don't really care for app selection (like 90% of my use will be calls/texts/email/web) - the $300+ difference between the two would probably be used for a 7" Android tablet, mostly for watching videos on something more portable than my laptop, which I know I wouldn't buy if I bought the Nexus (had two Android devcies at the same time once and found it too redundant).
Basically not interested in any non-pentaband phone at this point, and no other Nokia phone really grabs me like the N8 (the N9 is nice, but IMO a step back compared to the N8 in features/ports). PLEASE don't just go and say something like "Nokia is old/out" or "Galaxy Nexus, I have it and it's great" - I'd like actual answers, particularly people who have used Symbian Anna (not necessarily the N8 though).
Only other phone I'd sorta consider is the Optimus from Republic Wireless for the cheaper plan price, but I'm waiting for the service to improve (and allow on-the-fly Wifi/CDMA switching) before I truly consider it.
Galaxy Nexus. End of discussion!
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Galaxy Nexus. End of discussion!
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This is what I mean...I'm assuming it's just a joke post, and it doesn't really help my decision >.>
Galaxy Nexus. Nuff said
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Galaxy Nexus. Nuff said
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*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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They're just screwing with you. Honestly I'm going to give you the same answer though but I'll explain why:
Your reasoning for liking the n8 for the features it has are all in the gn. But the gn has a a better resolution, a super amoled screen (trust me, there is a HUGE difference), a better processor and a better os in the sense of more applications and overall customization. If you're willing to go for the gn* then go for it.
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*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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Seriously? If you aren't going to take our advice, why post this? You could of taken the the time to search and read about the Nexus and Nokia than open a thread..... The obvious answer is going to be the Nexus. And you're going to get the same answer in any other forum.
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They're just screwing with you. Honestly I'm going to give you the same answer though but I'll explain why:
Your reasoning for liking the n8 for the features it has are all in the gn. But the gn has a a better resolution, a super amoled screen (trust me, there is a HUGE difference), a better processor and a better os in the sense of more applications and overall customization. If you're willing to go for the gn* then go for it.
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Well, the N8's camera is quite a bit better, if only for xenon flash, and from what I've read the recent Anne update has improved the speed/quality of it...not ever really having to carry a point-and-shoot is a big plus for me.
And yeah, better processor and OS - but for a phone, I could honestly live without it. There's maybe one app I even use out of the house that's dependent on a wireless connection, and if it comes to it I can just bring the 7" tablet with (exactly why I want a 7" one - still portable enough to stick in my pocket). As I said, 90% of my phone use is basically just that, with email and web browsing on the side when I have the time for it.
Honestly, the biggest thing is the price - I can't exactly afford to replace it quickly if it were to break or get lost/stolen, and considering how much Android phones - Nexus or not - depreciate...then there's the screen size. Too small to comfortably watch a movie on, and too big to warrant a 7" tablet for me (and I'm just not interested in anything beyond 7") - especially when it'd be an extra $200+ for basically the same thing I have, an android device, in a bigger size.
I'm not trying to make it seem like I'm set on the N8 or something, I just don't want to get a Galaxy Nexus simply because it's "better" when I don't even really need all that "better-ness"
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Seriously? If you aren't going to take our advice, why post this? You could of taken the the time to search and read about the Nexus and Nokia than open a thread..... The obvious answer is going to be the Nexus. And you're going to get the same answer in any other forum.
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It's not about not taking advice, but I'm looking for advice that consists of more than picking one phone basically because it's the popular phone to recommend. I get this is a tech/phone forum, but that shouldn't mean that everybody only focuses on what's new or "the best" and disregard valid reasons to consider other stuff.
As I mentioned - take into account the fact that I'm going to be getting a 7" Android tablet (likely some Honeycomb/Tegra 2 device) along with said Nokia device, which I absolutely would not get with the Nexus (due to the combined cost, smaller screen size difference, and redundancy of two Android devices - meaning one or the other will be highly underutilized as an Android device).
When you don't need a better phone, why buy a new phone? What's wrong with your G2?
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When you don't need a better phone, why buy a new phone? What's wrong with your G2?
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I want either phone for the better camera (plus secondary) and HDMI-output primarily, but also having better features in general.
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I want either phone for the better camera (plus secondary) and HDMI-output primarily, but also having better features in general.
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The GN's camera is pretty weak, honestly. The SGS2's camera stomps all over it... and it's not even in the same league as the N8's camera.
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N8 is a good device, very durable and has an awesome camera, but will you ever use the camera? Just asking. My friend has it, and he likes it a lot. But he said to me the other day "I want Android." It's worth mentioning that he is a long time Nokia fan and not a geek kinda user like me. But why suddenly said he wants Android? Well because Symbian sucks. Period. Yes, Anne update is not bad, but it just ripped off Android. It looks like a complete Android rip-off.
If the camera is very important to you, you can go for SGSII. Lower price, better camera, smaller screen therefor easier to handle, and one of the best devices ever built.
All in all the choice is yours. But don't make a decision that will make you regret it.
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Oh, and having 2 Android devices is not redundant. It's just more awesome. I've a Nexus S and an Acer A500, but I still would buy a Galaxy Nexus if I had the money.
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Yeah, I'd definitely use the camera - I don't really use my current camera just because of the mediocre quality, but I know that would change with a better quality one.
I guess the GSII is an option, although the T-Mobile version doesn't have Exynos and that's the best version I can afford in terms of monthly plan price...plus, if T-Mobile goes under and the 1700/2100 band isn't taken by anybody (like AT&T) then the phone will be kinda useless, only being able to get 2G/EDGE. And if I was going to consider a phone like that, I'd probably just get the G2x then, which still has basically all features I'd want and a decent amount cheaper than the GSII.
And I had a Streak 7 (both with Gingerbread and Honeycomb)...and found myself using my G2 most of the time, forcing myself to use the Streak 7 instead when possible. Maybe I didn't give it a chance, or I might just not use enough decent Android apps, I dunno.
Anyway, Polaroid recently announced an interesting camera/Android phone combo that includes optical zoom...but phone specs don't seem too spectacular, and it seems to be only available to AT&T. Not sure if it even has HDMI-out, which would be kinda pointless to have such a nice camera and no video-out capabilities...
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The GN's camera is pretty weak, honestly. The SGS2's camera stomps all over it... and it's not even in the same league as the N8's camera.
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True, but I'm pretty sure it's better than the G2's, especially for being really quick.
It seems like you made your decision long before you made this thread. Get the N8. Voila. Done. Enjoy.
ThereĀ“s no way I could separate my life from Android, so you know my answer.
Wow, I feel dumb now. I just remembered I'll be getting a Fuji W3 soon, which I'm pretty sure will take decent 2D pictures in addition to 3D. Might as well not bother with the N8 then, might actually consider the Galaxy Nexus then.
In my humble opinion, once you use android as the OS, you'll start to like your phone more than phone/sms, thats why its called smartphone
noooo... dont buy a n8.. u will surely regret...
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You don't want more betterness? Get the N8 then, simple. Seems like you are criticizing the nexus more anyway.
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still worth buying?

Hi!
I want to upgrade my DHD, and I'm looking on all the options.
So I want to check about the Note.
Is it still worth buying? I don't want to buy and after 2 month there will be Note 2 and this one will get old.
Do you recommend buying this device in two month? (I'm not talking at the device as it is, I did all that research. I'm talking only on the fact it's 7 month old... in two month it will be 9 month old)
Thanks!
Will there be a Note 2 ????? Me thinks it was one off test the waters so to speak. What would make the note better is what I ask. Apart from the latest 4.04 yeah perhaps a fast quad core proc but this thing blazes through everything as is. Only thing really different is the software look at the S3 what's the major diff is the software. (ignore quad and screen size) its the apps.
Buy the Note.
Ps just brought my note last week instead of the S3 and sold my S2
you will get used to the 5,3' screen and you will not want a phone that is smaller than the Note!
I also have HTC One X, quad core Tegra 3, 4,7' screen, but I use Note (of course on CM9) it's simply better to me
I don't want the new software, I'm only afraid there will be no more support here on XDA, as on my DHD. There are no roms coming out!
More people?
We have official cm9 support and a custom kernel..What more could you ask for?
Buy this phone now!
Sadly I can't buy it now... only in 2 month. Will it still worth buying? The device will be almost 1 year!
No need to think over it.I had bought it just 3 days ago and i love it
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Why no need? If i will buy it the beginning of Aug, it will be 1 year for the announcement. You don't think they will release a new one a bit after?
I know there are lots of great phones coming out, note 2 won't be out until fall at least if at all since they're releasing the true 10 inch tablet version next. This phone is all about the screen, aside from excellent hardware. IMO you'll have a phone that'll easily last another year before you start getting jealous. It's awesome, there's nothing like it.
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so you all thinks roms will still be developed?
i think i will buy it, the low price got me.
It's got some real old school devs for this device as well as the infamous cm9 as mentioned previously. Once we get stable Ics kernels there's no stopping us!
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Just got mine two days ago. Definitely worth buying now, it will be a while before the 2 is released. If it is. This phone is amazing, now other phones look puny not to mention the amazing display. I thought I was looking at an old nokia when I was on my wife's iPhone 4 earlier lol
Development wise it's still very early days and already progress is being made although I am holding off root as it still seems too risky at the moment. Waiting for it to be as straightforward as the Desire was even without unrevoked.
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It's got some real old school devs for this device as well as the infamous cm9 as mentioned previously. Once we get stable Ics kernels there's no stopping us!
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+1
We have CM9 nightlies which should only get better once ICS Kernel sources are out.
Also, the note has exceptional demand, this surprised everyone - even Samsung.
I am sure there will be another 5.1-5.5" Note 2 in about 6 months.
Samsung hit a sweet spot with the note size that appeals to people who like large screen and the ability to make calls.
Personally I am getting the S3, and when Note2 comes, I'll just switch to it.
Guys I'm thinking of buying one cause of this great price http://www.ebay.com/itm/36045880681...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_11855wt_922
Question is will this work on T-mobile?
to the OP...stop contemplating about what may happen tomorrow, get the Note today and enjoy. Life is too short. Technology will change and if you wait now, you will wait again because you will worry that a better technology will come out later.
get the Note.......and be happy with it.
im sure the note 2 wont be the best for long, but i just to want to buy and after 2 month there will be a new one and developers will stop the develop.
in the other side, the note 2's price will be much higher.
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im sure the note 2 wont be the best for long, but i just to want to buy and after 2 month there will be a new one and developers will stop the develop.
in the other side, the note 2's price will be much higher.
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Development will stop?! How new are you to xda?! Go look at two threads, the Desire and hd2. As long as there are users there will be devs don't you worry about that!
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i have the desire hd, and now there are no developers
once in a month there is an update for some of the roms, that includes only new apps and update of apps (as play store, g+ etc.).
Once you buy it, you would never wanna go back. It is the best out there. As far as tech goes, it keeps on evolving at a rapid pace. And GN is nothing like the iPhones where the older version seems outdated the moment newer version is launched. What we see in GS III should essentialy be in the Note II or whatever they call it. I bet it would be the same (maybe a bit tweaked) as on GS III, quad core (A15 dual core might be better than quad but it won't hit the normal, non geeky consumer. General belief: Quad > Dual, More MPs ~ better camera), maybe the same 8MP as on S3 again and such stuff. I hope the design is more in line with Note than a hybrid of S2 and GNex.
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im almost sure it will be lighter, and thinner and a screen with a higher resolution, but i dont care about all this, because there will always be a newer and better device.

Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
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Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
rault18 said:
I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
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Great review. Wow, the nex 4 screen looks beautiful.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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If it wasn't for the nex 4 I would have gotten either an gs3 or a note2. The GS3 is definitely a decent phone. Still for the money I think the nex wins.
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SO DAMN TRUE!!!
And you see people saying oh look how fast it is, and the previous device was a nokia with flashlight or an iphone
WTH! -_-
For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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+1 on this.
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Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol.
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Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.
The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).
I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.
Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
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I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.
It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.
I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.
I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.
I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
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I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.
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That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google.
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i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.
Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...
This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)
Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.
To me GT-I9305 FTW
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[POLL] Stick with S5 or get OnePlus One?

What do you guys think? Would you be sticking with your s5 or will be buying the one+ one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIUTV63TSU4
OnePlus One Phone Explained. HOW is it so cheap?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=recQYaSVLkk
I've been thinking of getting an OnePlus One as a secondary device (well, tertiary, as my note 3 is my primary and my s5 secondary)
for that price without a doubt
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Gonna stick with s5. Got a note 2 for my phablet needs
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S5 all the way!
Size, sd card, replaceable battery, water resistant!
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The OnePlus One looks great, but I don't think I'll switch out my S5.
I have a friend that will probably pick it up so I can check it out then.
No, even if the Oneplus One seems to be fast, I prefer my S5 with its new touchwizz. And no Sd card extension on the One.
The Oneplus One really looks amazing and quite a threat to the flagships at that price. And apparently the camera is really good. I however don't like what i've seen so for from the software on it.
Considering there will be no service center anywhere for a newly opened company, no guarantees that the company will even survive beyond 2014, dodgy ordering system I am least interested. Actually that company looks likes a scam to me in most ways they talk and the 'invite' method looks very suspicious.
And the fact that they are using CM is a huge negative for me. I never liked CM, and always thought it as a useless bragging rights for nerds who would use inferior products just to make themselves look cool.
really? no small companies, no big companies?
CLARiiON said:
Considering there will be no service center anywhere for a newly opened company, no guarantees that the company will even survive beyond 2014, dodgy ordering system I am least interested. Actually that company looks likes a scam to me in most ways they talk and the 'invite' method looks very suspicious.
And the fact that they are using CM is a huge negative for me. I never liked CM, and always thought it as a useless bragging rights for nerds who would use inferior products just to make themselves look cool.
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I'm pretty much disillusioned with the idea of "service" for my phone. If it breaks in time they may replace it, but the replacement through insurance got me the runner-up last time anyway. (HTC Sensation rather than another Galaxy S)
Funny, I see CM as a big improvement in many places, and even though I haven't been running *pure* CM, most of the ROMs I have used have been based off of CM. While I appreciate the availability of forked custom ROMs, I really like that the core things are being addressed by a bigger dev team (in addition to google changes merged back in)
Of course, my Galaxy S was almost immediately abandoned by T-Mobile and Samsung, and the only way I got farther than 2.1-update1 was through the community ROMs.
Infoport
CLARiiON said:
Considering there will be no service center anywhere for a newly opened company, no guarantees that the company will even survive beyond 2014, dodgy ordering system I am least interested. Actually that company looks likes a scam to me in most ways they talk and the 'invite' method looks very suspicious.
And the fact that they are using CM is a huge negative for me. I never liked CM, and always thought it as a useless bragging rights for nerds who would use inferior products just to make themselves look cool.
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how can u say that? a lot of u havent seen the quality of the oppo products blurays or phones..the majority of the oneplus one guys including the ceo are ex oppo employees
For the price of one S5 you can buy 2 Oneplus one phones and each one has better specs than it as well. Sounds like a good deal to me.
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Oneplusone looking good over here.
N the Oneplus One looks much better than S5 from every angle.. Even my Nexus 5 looks much better than S5 though..
But still Oneplus One is a gorgeous phone but the size is a little big for my liking..
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FuMMoD said:
For the price of one S5 you can buy 2 Oneplus one phones and each one has better specs than it as well. Sounds like a good deal to me.
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Specs aren't anything. S4 and M7 have similar specs and I think the s4 is MUCH better of a device. The N5 has slightly less specs than the s5 and m8 and neither of those devices feel like an upgrade at all (except speaker and camera quality - I'd take N5 camera over M7 and M8 any day).
Specs aren't everything. I've seen the android authority video on the one+ 1 and it lags like every other cm11 os. Very unimpressed and if I had a S5 I wouldn't even think about getting the one+... Even with the s5's cartoonish display and useless gimmicks... I have the n5 and wouldn't consider it.
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I'm getting one just waiting for an invite.
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how can u say that? a lot of u havent seen the quality of the oppo products blurays or phones..the majority of the oneplus one guys including the ceo are ex oppo employees
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how can I say what??
I haven't seen any service centers for this new company. have you seen one?? will they survive for few years? I don't know, I have my doubts.
Their ordering scheme of invite and smashing sounds ridiculous to me. If you like such things, that's upto you. I don't like it.
As for CM, I find them highly overrated.
No way, but kuddos to them for doing that at that price point. For me though, don't need a phablet, my neighbor has a Note 3 and it's too big imo for my daily driver, very noticeable over my S5. Plus all the benefits of the S5 make it worth it, water proof etc
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how can I say what??
I haven't seen any service centers for this new company. have you seen one?? will they survive for few years? I don't know, I have my doubts.
Their ordering scheme of invite and smashing sounds ridiculous to me. If you like such things, that's upto you. I don't like it.
As for CM, I find them highly overrated.
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whatever floats ur bloat :good:
CLARiiON said:
As for CM, I find them highly overrated.
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This ^^^
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Note 5, flip it or love it?

Hey XDA
Brief background, want to make this small post here.
Had the S4 for a year, actually enjoyed it for what it was worth, wanted out as soon as we knew for sure there was no root. Stock Touchwiz was just terrible on the 4.
I've never had the chance to own a Nexus device before, my carrier upgrades always came just before the Nexus devices were released, and I've been so ready to upgrade when it comes I jump on it.
This time around I stuck with my G3 for a while. I love this phone. I'm ready for new, and the phones coming out this year are not quite "notable"
I really have my eyes on the Nexus 6P - but US carriers not selling it means I have a decision to make. Got my dad the Note 4 earlier this year, he likes it. I like it the little bit I've played with it. I feel I could even use the Note 5 to replace my notebook in class for notes. ATT bootloader seems to be like the S4. Not much will come of bootloader unlocks with this phone.. It appears.
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So I will upgrade through ATT, probably to the Note 5. Question is - stay with the Note 5 and learn to love it, despite the experiences I've had with Samsung, or flip it unopened on CL and order up the N6P....??
I really do not want a subpar camera to the G3, nor do I want a dull screen. Both devices seem on par, both no SD, battery not removable on the Note... Cameras both good..
Anyone here want the Nexus 6P?! Willing to get rid of your Note 5 for it?
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
If i had a real need for a second phone, Nexus 6P will be my choice
I like Note5 as my main phone, S pen is really helpful, and makes you smart ?
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I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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KarimSalloum said:
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
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The phone hasn't even come out yet, wait until someone can review it. There are phones with the chip that heat up a lot, and some that don't heat at all.
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I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
HNIC215 said:
I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
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True and true. I may end up doing that. Will be end of this month or next, don't want to make a payment to pay off my G3, got 4 months left but they usually let you swap with 2 left.
I want to try the N5, the S6 edge has a brilliant screen but not for me.
I just really have my heart set on this N6P. If I don't like what I get with the Note5 I may return it for a iPhone6S and sell that on CL. Should get more $$$ for it. Overnight myself a N6P and I'll be good to go.
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It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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Indeed. That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better... I'd sweep that in a heartbeat.
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion. If course, the Note typically has better optimized software and useful features.
I lean more and more to the n6p every time I look at it. But again, ATT doesn't sell. Going to really suck
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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I agree, I think somewhere along the line, maybe around lollipop, I started to enjoy the touchwiz version more because of all the useful features built in to the OS.
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better...
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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What V10?
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What V10?
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LG.
KarimSalloum said:
Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
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I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
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LG.
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Saw it... Not interested in the front screen thing, seems a bit gimicky...
But... Could be neat. I don't think I will wait that long until I upgrade.
HNIC215 said:
I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
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Yeah, yet the track record shows Samsung will not upgrade the software's RAM consumption near as much as they could. They just don't have our interests at heart, rather the general public. After all we are a minority on XDA.
May settle for the Note5, will have to find time to go play with one in the store soon..
Otherwise I'll flip an iPhone 6S for the N6P... Ugh.
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I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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I say no. It may just be my writing, but I can only fit maybe 4-5 legible words across the screen in portrait mode, which makes for a lot of +New notes, or one lonnnnnnng one.
I've had my fun with it, but I am realizing it's just not convenient to try and pack a tablet into a phone, and use a phablet as a phone. I am now leaning more towards having a tablet for actual writing on, and a phone I can use easily in one hand for texting/emailing/calling.

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