[Q] - Is there a kitkat ART version? - Xposed General

If xposed framework is working now on lollipop under ART, is there a way to use Xposed with kitkat runing ART runtime?

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Currently no. Rovo said he MIGHT do this later when he finishes the L version.

A backport would be amazing. Wouldn't the larger user base aid in development?

LumenTeun said:
Are you sure that KitKat ART has a larger userbase than Lollipop? I hardly think so since KitKat defaults to Dalvik and you need to enable developer options to change to ART. Lollipop will eventually become the predominant Android version, so focusing on making it work is probably the best course of action right now, at least in my opinion.
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You misread my post. The number of KitKat users is far greater than the number of lollipop users based on the Android distribution numbers as of March 5th. Most users with Xposed installed are fully aware of ART being available for KitKat but, like me, place Xposed above ART in terms of importance. Then there are users, like me, that chose to stay on KitKat because Xposed for ART didn't exist until recently.
Lollipop will become the most widely distributed version of Android, but not for a long while. 41% of the user base is on KitKat while 3% is on Lollipop. If you include builds as far back as Jelly Bean (4.1.x), the user base of 4.x users comprises 83% of all devices. Most of the 43% (4.1.x, 4.2.x, 4.3) are more likely to be upgraded to KitKat than Lollipop. Many of the phones set to be updated to Lollipop are still waiting the OTA while many others won't be receiving anything above 4.4.4. So yes, an ART-enabled Xposed Framework for KitKat will have a much larger user base than Lollipop for a long while.

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Sorry, it's unlikely that Xposed will ever be backported to ART for KK. The industry has pretty much left it behind.

Does anyone know if rovo89 has given any news about ART on KitKat and Xposed? Latest answer what I have found is this: "Possibly, ART support could be backported to KitKat, but that’s of less priority." (February 2015)

Lollipop is already "stable" enough. So maybe he could do this while working for Marshmallow?

Flash-A-Holic said:
Does anyone know if rovo89 has given any news about ART on KitKat and Xposed? Latest answer what I have found is this: "Possibly, ART support could be backported to KitKat, but that’s of less priority." (February 2015)
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vjtigas said:
Lollipop is already "stable" enough. So maybe he could do this while working for Marshmallow?
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It's not happening. You can post your questions all you want, keep repeating yourselves. No one is going to waste their time with this.

vjtigas said:
Lollipop is already "stable" enough. So maybe he could do this while working for Marshmallow?
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Get in line. I already asked him to make Xposed for Froyo.

Wakamatsu said:
Get in line. I already asked him to make Xposed for Froyo.
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I don't care. rovo, I want Xposed for Eclair, so that I can flash it on my Xperia X8!

The only way I see this happening is if you throw money at rovo to dedicate some time to backport it to KK ART.
100 or 200 dollars might be able to sway him. He's super busy now and I just don't see it happening.
Setup a gofundme or something and see what you can piece together.

Set up whatever, I will donate!

Wakamatsu said:
Get in line. I already asked him to make Xposed for Froyo.
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vjtigas said:
I don't care. rovo, I want Xposed for Eclair, so that I can flash it on my Xperia X8!
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if you dont mind, what i want is to have xposed on my motorola cliq with cupcake, best phone ever. u.u

A better option would be to port the KitKat UI to lollipop. anyone tried that yet ?, lolipop UI is a mess

Related

Xposed Framework won't work with Lollipop - How do we replace functionality?

Updated using the Nexus toolkit. Worked beautifally, rooted and stock recovery. But sad to see that I can't use Xposed! I love Wanam.
From Android Authority - http://www.androidauthority.com/xpos...llipop-540928/
Quote:
One of the under-the-hood changes brought by Android 5.0 Lollipop is the adoption of ART as the only runtime on Android, replacing the aging Dalvik. While ART brings faster app execution thanks to its use of ahead-of-time compilation, it also happens to break Rovo89’s Xposed Framework. For this reason, Xposed doesn’t work on devices running KitKat with ART, as well as on all devices running Lollipop.
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Yea. Xposed framework author will need to issue an updated version for lollipop.
Someone made a list of xposed module replacements. It's a short list but a good start. I've checked the Apps Ops replacement they mention from play store and it works great. just make sure you get the right one, there are similarly named ones that don't work.
http://iwiz-vicky.blogspot.com/2014...1/alternatives-to-popular-xposed-modules.html

Has xposed been updated for lollipop?

Just wondering
mrgwap said:
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Nope
And might not be.
We can only hope another xposed type mod comes on the scene in the coming months. As has been said, xposed might not get re-written for L. Big job by all accounts.
Personally if a battery % and center clock mod came about, I'll be a happy bunny!
Here's the latest about Xposed for Lollipop. Expect it "soon"!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xpos...-developer-claims-its-already-working_id65820
Japultra said:
Here's the latest about Xposed for Lollipop. Expect it "soon"!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xpos...-developer-claims-its-already-working_id65820
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Excellent news (for some)
Anyone installed xposed and the gravitybox mod on the Lollipop GPE stock rom as yet? Just wondering what if any the bugs are like?
Xposed and Gravitybox are bother in Alpha, the latter was released yesterday.

[Q] Xposed Lollipop question

Hi,
I don't want to start an argument over when/whether/how Xposed will ever run on lollipop, I just have a hypothetical question. If you're gonna hate, please go hate in one if the other threads on the subject.
What I want to know is: IF Xposed is fully ported across to lollipop will the existing modules still work, or will the require rewriting/modifying.
Obviously any modules that require functionality specific to KitKat or other android versions will break, but what about more genetic modules?
Thanks in advance,
Sotolotl
i'm assuming the only person who can answer this is @rovo89..
I think it depends. Some single purpose mods may still work. But the multimods like wanan and gravity box will need a new one because they already have Android specific for Jellybean and kit kat versions. Just my guess.
Xposed API will be the same:
https://github.com/rovo89/XposedBridge/issues/30#issuecomment-68513262
Have you read xda news? If not http://www.xda-developers.com/xposed-framework-for-android-lollipop-is-here/
answer
On lollipop 5.0.2 , xMultiwindow& hallo floating and xprivacy no longer works.
But works youtube background player.
be happy with it !

Android N (SDK 24) Support

Has anyone attempted to flash the SDK 23 version of xposed on top of the Android N Preview?
Firerouge said:
Has anyone attempted to flash the SDK 23 version of xposed on top of the Android N Preview?
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If you are brave enough: backup your current device and give it a try.
EDIT: in my opinion it is rather meaningless to ask for Android N support yet, as there are at least seven month until a "final" release will hit the market. If the current Xposed version doesn't work, there will be no need to create some workarounds, as the current version is more or less a preview of a preview and there are lots of code-base changes to be expected. I guess it will take some more month until a valid support will be established.
I'm brave enough. Also foolish, because the only superuser I have been able to achieve won't let me r/w to system, so I can't install modules. And even if I could, odds are that all but the simplest modules would fail.
Regardless, it didn't boot.
jfpbookworm said:
I'm brave enough. Also foolish, because the only superuser I have been able to achieve won't let me r/w to system, so I can't install modules. And even if I could, odds are that all but the simplest modules would fail.
Regardless, it didn't boot.
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The new android has many Gravitybox stuff, so I can live without Xposed I think...
so?
Tried last night.
The XPosed SDK23 checks for proper API Level upon installation - and refuses to install if you're different.
TL;DR: If you're not on MM, the MM installer won't work.
I modified the zip script
and removed the api check. The resulting system dies at dex (compiling apps, including systemui). However there are websites claiming the Universal Systemless Xposed Installer will work on Nougat if you first flash Magisk and use the Material Design Xposed Installer (not to be confused with Materialized module) and phh's Superuser apps in place of Official Xposed Installer and SuperSU! I am about to give it a try on a Nexus 6!
FoxysWorkplace said:
and removed the api check. The resulting system dies at dex (compiling apps, including systemui). However there are websites claiming the Universal Systemless Xposed Installer will work on Nougat if you first flash Magisk and use the Material Design Xposed Installer (not to be confused with Materialized module) and phh's Superuser apps in place of Official Xposed Installer and SuperSU! I am about to give it a try on a Nexus 6!
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Any luck?
Guys... That would never work. If it did, what's the point of SDK versions?
Just like when Marshmallow was released, SDK22 would NOT work whatsoever on 6.0. same if you go back another version using the previous version of Xposed.
Don't try to install it, as it just bricks. That's why the API checker is there.
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It was worth a shot
tarroyo said:
Any luck?
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Sadly those websites are bogus clickbait to generate ad views. (Apparently) I can confirm that flashing Magisk on Android N causes the bootstrap to fail without even flashing Xposed yet. I even tried playing with the install flags. Sorry everyone I'll continue to investigate other solutions.
To those who said it is stupid and pointless to try what I did: Tinkering and breaking the rules of common sense are how many advancements have been discovered. Your posts are negative and unconstructive, nearly a violation of XDA rules. Please try not to be so abusive for the sake of the community.
Curiousn00b said:
Guys... That would never work. If it did, what's the point of SDK versions?
Just like when Marshmallow was released, SDK22 would NOT work whatsoever on 6.0. same if you go back another version using the previous version of Xposed.
Don't try to install it, as it just bricks. That's why the API checker is there.
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Without bricks, we wouldn't have houses...
Just flashed Nougat on my N7 and now I miss Xposed.
CappyT said:
Without bricks, we wouldn't have houses...
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False. You have houses made of other things. ;D
FoxysWorkplace said:
Sadly those websites are bogus clickbait to generate ad views. (Apparently) I can confirm that flashing Magisk on Android N causes the bootstrap to fail without even flashing Xposed yet. I even tried playing with the install flags. Sorry everyone I'll continue to investigate other solutions.
To those who said it is stupid and pointless to try what I did: Tinkering and breaking the rules of common sense are how many advancements have been discovered. Your posts are negative and unconstructive, nearly a violation of XDA rules. Please try not to be so abusive for the sake of the community.
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But honestly, you're just bricking your device by flashing the wrong SDK version. If you want to begin porting it instead of messing with the install script to the Xposed for the wrong version of Android, maybe contact RomRacer. He ported Xposed to 5.0/5.1 before Rovo released an official version, so he can help you out maybe, but you need permission from Rovo to release a working version.
Good luck.
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@rovo89
Will there be any chance that Xposed supports Android Nougat?
wuerg said:
@rovo89
Will there be any chance that Xposed supports Android Nougat?
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Unfortunately, Android Nougat will be the only Android version that will not support Xposed. This is due to the fact that Nougat is a delicious, but creamy thing, that glues together all command lines when melted.
*sarcasm turned off
There will be support for Android Nougat, be patient like everyone else. If any news arise, rovo89 will make an official statement.
wuerg said:
@rovo89
Will there be any chance that Xposed supports Android Nougat?
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We are a good 6-8 months away from an Official stable release, N is still in the early beta stages. He will work on getting it working when he feels that Google is done changing code around.
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mattzeller said:
N is still in the early beta stages.
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I thought final N version was released a few days ago?!
Taobaibai said:
I thought final N version was released a few days ago?!
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Only if you have Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X,*Nexus 6, Nexus 9, and Google Pixel C. So he'll be able to start working to see if he can even make it work. He he stated he was waiting for it to be finished before he starts. It took several months for him to get it working with Lollipop.
The 6-9 months was my estimates on the non Nexus devices
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Taobaibai said:
I thought final N version was released a few days ago?!
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Final? Is O next? Haha
Bad news for my Nexus 9. So I have to downgrade to Marshmallow. Android w/o Xposed is not impossible for me.

Is Xposed preventing you from upgrading to Nougat?

One of the main reasons I have not upgraded to Nougat, is the lack of Xposed support.
You?
riahc3 said:
One of the main reasons I have not upgraded to Nougat, is the lack of Xposed support.
You?
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Yes same here. ?
Actually I did upgrade to N and kept using it for like 6 months before I downgrade to MM again.
Also the reason for me to not upgrade. Actually the reason for me to build lineage 13 for my device (thea)...
Xposed is love, xposed is life!
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I'm the first "No" in the round... although I would be happier to select... "no, but...", because I'm checking the xposed development multiple times a week, because I really miss some xposed modules. Life definitely is not the same without xposed, but I still prefer an updated and fully patched phone rather than an "outdated" version with less features (Android wise, of course you can do crazy stuff with xposed) and downgraded performance.
No xposed, no android.
All my three devices are still stuck on 6.0.1 because of this..
XPOSED appears to be dead or as good as so I won't be waiting much longer. I don't want to wait for every new Android release. I'll be looking for a suitable alternative ROM.
I can't imagine android without GravityBox or App Settings not to mention dozens of small single purpose modules. It's a shame that Xposed is developed with one developer only.
Even if xposed comes out for nougat it will one day be dead. Might as well update and get used to not having xposed
I have Xposed installed in MM because I prefer to keep Android 6 + Xposed than Android 7 alone.
By the way, I meet an issue, I don't know if it was already solved in the past, but many apps can't start due to Google play services missing. So I have installed Google play service and authorized the permissions without success.
Do you have an idea why ?
Thank you very much.
Nope. Rovio89 has no time to work on Xposed, meaning Xposed is pretty much dead.
I've upgraded my Nexus and Pixel devices to Nougat and have not missed it one bit.
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darzur said:
It's a shame that Xposed is developed with one developer only.
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It's why Xposed is pretty much dead. Nougat has been out for 8 months now. Don't count on it.
I know Rovo no have time for xposed, so why no upload source code. XDA have great dev, like Wanam, Topjohnwu, Arter, Chainfire itd itd... I know on 100% if them have sources, xposed on 7 be 6 month ago.
Yes, sadly. Because of this one app refusing to work with root, so i have to use rootcloak.
koko115 said:
I know Rovo no have time for xposed, so why no upload source code. XDA have great dev, like Wanam, Topjohnwu, Arter, Chainfire itd itd... I know on 100% if them have sources, xposed on 7 be 6 month ago.
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What? The source code is there..
Azdian said:
Actually I did upgrade to N and kept using it for like 6 months before I downgrade to MM again.
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What made you decide to "downgrade"?
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I have Viper 3.5.0 which is the last Viper rom with MM. It works great and I'm sticking with it for now. Need my Gravity Box and other Xposed apps.
riahc3 said:
One of the main reasons I have not upgraded to Nougat, is the lack of Xposed support.
You?
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Yep, and I'm missing Xposed on my tab s3 with nougat... :crying:
No way I can live without Xposed. No nougat for me till then.
Xposed has so many neat modules. Nougat isn't worth it if taht means leaving Xposed.
Staying on MM does not mean that I'm on a outdated system.
Instead of asking the device manufacturer to make the device secure, I'd love to control my security and privacy. With MM, I still got a good performance, battery life and still able to make a call or send an email or message .
I'd be on MM as long as I don't see anything that can replace xposed and until I buy a device that cannot be downgraded to MM.

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