Difference between stock and custom rom. - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have had had several "custom rom flash addictions" to various android models.
I have not been flashing on my Xperia Z1 since i have always have had a feeling there is a bigger risk of breaking the phone.
How big of a difference does a custom rom for the Xperia Z1 make?
Does it get alot smoother and faster?

Gnubaver said:
I have had had several "custom rom flash addictions" to various android models.
I have not been flashing on my Xperia Z1 since i have always have had a feeling there is a bigger risk of breaking the phone.
How big of a difference does a custom rom for the Xperia Z1 make?
Does it get alot smoother and faster?
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most custom roms will make your device faster and more smooth. There are two sorts of custom roms: Stock based and AOSP Based.
Stock based custom roms are only roms with a modified sony firmware and some extra functions and so on.
AOSP based custom roms (like cyanogenmod) are based on the google AOSP and this roms have nothing in common with the stock sony software.
Roms like cyanogenmod are faster than stock sony android and will give you the possibility to personalize your rom. you can change they way it looks like and also you can tweak your rom with cpu settings and so on. But you will get less battery life than with stock sony android.
P.S. there are many tutorials to flash custom roms, search in honami section and if you follow the tutorials observantly you wont brick your device

Gnubaver said:
I have had had several "custom rom flash addictions" to various android models.
I have not been flashing on my Xperia Z1 since i have always have had a feeling there is a bigger risk of breaking the phone.
How big of a difference does a custom rom for the Xperia Z1 make?
Does it get alot smoother and faster?
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The biggest problem of CM and other non-stock based roms is the camera.You lose so much functionality like 4K video, 120fps slo-mo, burst shot and mostly picture quality.But their advantage is the speed, looks and functionality(except camera).
I hope the new lollipop update gets the new camera API.That will change everything(hopefully).

mo120697 said:
most custom roms will make your device faster and more smooth. There are two sorts of custom roms: Stock based and AOSP Based.
Stock based custom roms are only roms with a modified sony firmware and some extra functions and so on.
AOSP based custom roms (like cyanogenmod) are based on the google AOSP and this roms have nothing in common with the stock sony software.
Roms like cyanogenmod are faster than stock sony android and will give you the possibility to personalize your rom. you can change they way it looks like and also you can tweak your rom with cpu settings and so on. But you will get less battery life than with stock sony android.
P.S. there are many tutorials to flash custom roms, search in honami section and if you follow the tutorials observantly you wont brick your device
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y is it that stock roms have less battery life ?
arnt they more bareboned and have less bloat?

sruba209 said:
y is it that stock roms have less battery life ?
arnt they more bareboned and have less bloat?
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Stock based ROMs -> better battery life
AOSP based -> less battery life and less bloatware

mo120697 said:
Stock based ROMs -> better battery life
AOSP based -> less battery life and less bloatware
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@mo120697 : I got that from ur previous post . I was just asking y this is so . Since AOSP has less (none) bloat and none of the sony services and apps , shouldn't it be more battery friendly ?

sruba209 said:
@mo120697 : I got that from ur previous post . I was just asking y this is so . Since AOSP has less (none) bloat and none of the sony services and apps , shouldn't it be more battery friendly ?
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Logically yes, but in fact Sony android has much better battery life, I don't know why..

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Custom Versus Stock ROM

Hi,
Which of the custom ROM do you find better than stock ROM, based on your own experience. What I'm missing by using stock ROM ? you think
aminsa said:
Hi,
Which of the custom ROM do you find better than stock ROM, based on your own experience. What I'm missing by using stock ROM ? you think
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I guess the answer is, it depends like everything else. Custom ROMs come in a great variety, AOSP, AOKP, TW, hybrid ones like Paranoid. Just flash and try
Personally I like TW. I tried Criskelo and Kingdroid, also tried paranoid(non TW). I liked Kingdroid the best. It has the newer version of TW(as opposed to the stock ROM), somewhat better battery life, more fluid IMHO, better performance overall.
ROMs are more like, to each their own. Try it, you have nothing to lose. I tried a few over a weekend, and settled on one that I dont change often because of lack of time.
I agree..
I agree, too.
Just one more suggestion as this could help you determine faster if the rom does what you need/want:
Root your phone and use a backup software (titanium or backup root, for example), saves you time
If you do this already nevermind
But to answer your question directly: most of the roms focus on smothness and stability, others implement whole new features (in paranoid rom you can choose for every app if you want the tablet or phone version) or make it easier to tweak your system (liquidsmooth would be my example for this). Also, there are several JellyBean ROMs which only miss a few features so you are always up to date and don't have to wait for Samsung's infamous touchwiz-"magic" to be applied...
And it actually teaches you a thing or two about Android and the development for it (at least it did for me )
Hope I could help

[Q] Differences between the stock 4.1.2 and the custom KitKats

Are there any noticeable improvements (performance-wise) in the custom KitKat ROMs and the stock 4.1.2? I mean, are there any changes that you can feel and see, or is it just a new android version with fancy new features?
Also I'd wait until a stable version of OmniROM or CM gets built until I try to flash my device.
RexGrammer said:
Are there any noticeable improvements (performance-wise) in the custom KitKat ROMs and the stock 4.1.2? I mean, are there any changes that you can feel and see, or is it just a new android version with fancy new features?
Also I'd wait until a stable version of OmniROM or CM gets built until I try to flash my device.
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I have flashed CM nightlies, PA nightlies, 4.3 PAC and Omni ROM.. Each Rom has its own unique features and performance difference!..
But personally i would say, those has its own + and - things..
The last ROM i flashed 4.4.2 Dirt Unicorns Rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2633846 ) seemed Great to me.. Overall Nice features cheery picked from all ROMS but again its individual's preference in the end of the day and Every ROM is unique in its own way!
NOTE:- S-Note, S planner and other samsung apps will work only if you are flashing a Touchwiz based Rom.. Those apps wont work in CM, PA and AOKP Roms cuz they need TW framework to work with!
If you are thinking of flashing of TW based Roms, i would recommend 2 Roms to take a look at..
X-Rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2320871 ) This is the Rom, i am currently using.. It will give your phone a tablet UI, thus taking advantage of your Note's large real estate screen! .. Multi window, floating window and buttery smooth and lots of features!
You can also check out the Note 8 Apps ported to our galaxy note N7000, if you are interested.. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2217662 )
Arya Mod ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52357155 ) This is also a great Rom and cool icons and themes!
I can't say I've been using any of the TouchWiz features, to be honest.
Just a few things I don't like on the stock ROM: The gallery takes a long time to open, opening the contacts takes a bit, and the animations sometimes glitch out (they just get skipped). And I'm locked to my current provider, but as my guarantee is at an end, I'm looking for a custom ROM to get out of the damn simlock, and maybe fix some other things as well.
So if you could just point out a few major differences (both performance wise, and feature wise) between CM, Omni and Dirt Unicorns, that'd be awesome. Of course I'd still wait for a stable version to come out.
I'm not really sure if I want a TW based ROM, not that I was using any of it's features. They always were a tad bit laggy on my phone. Mainly I'm looking for a ROM that'll run the smoothest, and that's the main thing, all eye-candy and fancy stuff is just icing on the cake. But I'll check out the ROMs you linked (the links seem to be wrong, tho). Thanks a lot!
I'll post another question in the same thread, so I don't have to open another one and clutter the board.
Are the OmniROM and CM nightlies stable? Also, is the only way to update CM to download and flash a new version of the OS, since there's that opendelta thing on Omni, where you can just download the update, just like real OTA?
RexGrammer said:
I'll post another question in the same thread, so I don't have to open another one and clutter the board.
Are the OmniROM and CM nightlies stable? Also, is the only way to update CM to download and flash a new version of the OS, since there's that opendelta thing on Omni, where you can just download the update, just like real OTA?
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They aren't stable but can be used as daily driver depending upon your usage. For Omnirom there is open delta, you can check for updates in settings>About Phone and it would only download the update not the whole rom.
RexGrammer said:
Are there any noticeable improvements (performance-wise) in the custom KitKat ROMs and the stock 4.1.2? I mean, are there any changes that you can feel and see, or is it just a new android version with fancy new features?
Also I'd wait until a stable version of OmniROM or CM gets built until I try to flash my device.
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I doubt 4.4 will ever be 100% stable, but god bless the cooks that keep coming up with updates, since for obvious reasons,
Samsung won't port past 4.1.2 officially.
Personally, for my usage, I've skipped everything past 4.1.2, as I can go weeks between reboots, lock ups, and with a custom
launcher (go launcher), my device is smooth and rock stable. It has a stock (DBT german international device) rom, rooted,
custom kernal just in case I forgot and didn't want to erase and endure the brick bug. Uninstalled the DBT bloat.
2+ years and still going strong.
p51d007 said:
I doubt 4.4 will ever be 100% stable, but god bless the cooks that keep coming up with updates, since for obvious reasons,
Samsung won't port past 4.1.2 officially.
Personally, for my usage, I've skipped everything past 4.1.2, as I can go weeks between reboots, lock ups, and with a custom
launcher (go launcher), my device is smooth and rock stable. It has a stock (DBT german international device) rom, rooted,
custom kernal just in case I forgot and didn't want to erase and endure the brick bug. Uninstalled the DBT bloat.
2+ years and still going strong.
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is it possible to create note2 android 4.3 rom for note1
CustomRomAddicts said:
I have flashed CM nightlies, PA nightlies, 4.3 PAC and Omni ROM.. Each Rom has its own unique features and performance difference!..
But personally i would say, those has its own + and - things..
The last ROM i flashed 4.4.2 Dirt Unicorns Rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2633846 ) seemed Great to me.. Overall Nice features cheery picked from all ROMS but again its individual's preference in the end of the day and Every ROM is unique in its own way!
NOTE:- S-Note, S planner and other samsung apps will work only if you are flashing a Touchwiz based Rom.. Those apps wont work in CM, PA and AOKP Roms cuz they need TW framework to work with!
If you are thinking of flashing of TW based Roms, i would recommend 2 Roms to take a look at..
X-Rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...0871&nocache=1 ) This is the Rom, i am currently using.. It will give your phone a tablet UI, thus taking advantage of your Note's large real estate screen! .. Multi window, floating window and buttery smooth and lots of features!
You can also check out the Note 8 Apps ported to our galaxy note N7000, if you are interested.. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2217662 )
Arya Mod ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2575767 ) This is also a great Rom and cool icons and themes!
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All your links are wrong.
daedric said:
All your links are wrong.
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i dont know what you are taking about
CustomRomAddicts said:
i dont know what you are taking about
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LOL
CustomRomAddicts said:
i dont know what you are taking about
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The only working link you posted is the first one. The other three don't work. Try it for yourself
He already fixed it... but my quote remains to explain what happened

[Q] So how do the ROM possibilitys look now?

I guess due to the bug that messed up the camera the ROM development never took of for the Z1. Although i'm really happy with stock, I want Kitkat for the transparans.
So is it worth rooting for? Looking thru some of the ROMs many of them seem to have a lot of bugs...
I'm after Kitkat as said, improved battery life would be nice also. What ROMs would you guys recommend? Kernels?
Thanks.
not sure realy
we may get the z2 4.4 ports
we may get cm10/11 along with aokp, aosp and maybe miui
kernel wise, i have no idea
also custom roms will allways have bugs, unless we have that perfect dev
CM10/11 usualy are bugfree (besides them small bugs)
and aosp is usualy dependant on the developer
Try some roms out before setteling
i personaly prefer stock, (with removed bloatware)

Stock vs Cyanogenmod (or any custom rom)

Do you think there is some very good stock apps that its not worth to change rom? Or is for example Cyanogenmod 11 so much better that I should flash it right away?
Stock rom is 4.1.2.
cm rom not good.
i use slim rom very good
xzaxox said:
Do you think there is some very good stock apps that its not worth to change rom? Or is for example Cyanogenmod 11 so much better that I should flash it right away?
Stock rom is 4.1.2.
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I tried lot of roms...stock or not. I can say that any new rom 4.4.X that you can find in xda is better than stock. Slim, Omni and others are very fast, smooth and battery friendly, with lot of customization. With these roms installed, N7000 looks like other new devices as performance, really.
Maybe you'll miss S-Note, but GNote is very good too...it's almost the same. Float Note is like Quick Memo...and there are many google or free apps even better than Samsung's one. You will able to get s-pen shortcuts too.
Keep trying...

[q] not a single good rom ?

IS there any good roms for this phone seriously ?
every rom i try has alot of bugs and problems and devs release updates every 6 months and most of them drop the development for the phone anyway
i cant find a single rom that combines performance with battery without sacrificing the LED notification abilities !!!
I've seen comments saying "the best rom" in every rom OP
If 'you' don't like it, it's your view. But don't ask for the best rom as its a violation of xda rules. I hope you get my point and I'm not being rude.
There are many great roms out there, try them for a week or so and then see what's good and what's not, help the dev by reviewing it honestly(not being biased like 'this rom is nothing like xyz rom') this way the dev will help you get a better rom.
aliiahmed.20 said:
IS there any good roms for this phone seriously ?
every rom i try has alot of bugs and problems and devs release updates every 6 months and most of them drop the development for the phone anyway
i cant find a single rom that combines performance with battery without sacrificing the LED notification abilities !!!
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First off - respect others work. Everyone puts a lot of effort in the ROMs.
1. The ROMs for SP are nearly bugless, only stock based ROMs have stock Sony bugs.
2. Of course - updates are released every 6 months - how is that possible if PA, AOKP, PAC, FXP CM are weekly-built, and we also have daily-built CM nightlies. Also who dropped support for a ROM? Last time it happened for OmniROM. After that no one dropped ROM support.
3. All ROMs for SP are nearly on par when it comes to battery and performance.
4. You can get the illumination bar features with Illumination Reciever + Illumination Bar Notification apps
5. Why do you put these exclamation marks in your sentences?
try PA or PAC, smooth,fast , great battery life and stable
2 words: thread reported
please respect the work of others and be patient
Also according to the XDA Rules asking for "What is the best ROM" is not allowed here
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hahahahaha you people are being aggressive and rude and i didnt say the "Best" anywhere i said a good rom
and no there are no good roms and i have used every single rom in the development thread and i know every developer and because i respect them i didnt mention their names but i know everyone who doesnt release a single update and leaves the rom to rot or just drops the whole development
everyone is just sensetive when it comes to respecting developers
MrSteve555 said:
First off - respect others work. Everyone puts a lot of effort in the ROMs.
1. The ROMs for SP are nearly bugless, only stock based ROMs have stock Sony bugs.
2. Of course - updates are released every 6 months - how is that possible if PA, AOKP, PAC, FXP CM are weekly-built, and we also have daily-built CM nightlies. Also who dropped support for a ROM? Last time it happened for OmniROM. After that no one dropped ROM support.
3. All ROMs for SP are nearly on par when it comes to battery and performance.
4. You can get the illumination bar features with Illumination Reciever + Illumination Bar Notification apps
5. Why do you put these exclamation marks in your sentences?
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5. because i can and its not against any rules !!!!!
4. Most of the applications doesnt work when you are on AOSP or CM they only work on stock
3. there are roms that are just slow like stocks and roms that eat battery like miui and aosp and cm
2. I Dont see any updates from any of these
1. Stock roms are the only thing we can call decent other than that its just an FC Festive
aliiahmed.20 said:
5. because i can and its not against any rules !!!!!
4. Most of the applications doesnt work when you are on AOSP or CM they only work on stock
3. there are roms that are just slow like stocks and roms that eat battery like miui and aosp and cm
2. I Dont see any updates from any of these
1. Stock roms are the only thing we can call decent other than that its just an FC Festive
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eXistenZ is the best stock based rom atm,AT LEAST IN MY OPINION,others may find other roms better.it has NO BUGS,it has speed enchantment,and when you turn Stamina mode On,you will have a hard time draining the battery
aliiahmed.20 said:
5. because i can and its not against any rules !!!!!
4. Most of the applications doesnt work when you are on AOSP or CM they only work on stock
3. there are roms that are just slow like stocks and roms that eat battery like miui and aosp and cm
2. I Dont see any updates from any of these
1. Stock roms are the only thing we can call decent other than that its just an FC Festive
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4. Okay, I can agree, but it's proprietary Sony technology so it can't really be used in CM without weird tricks.
3.Stock is pretty fast starting from .205 update. Eat battery? It depends on that how you flash the ROM, I can easily get 3-4+ hours screen on time.
2. I won't even comment about that, your ignorance totally killed me.
1.FC Festive? Custom ROMs based on AOSP are way stabler than stock ROMs.
MrSteve555 said:
4. Okay, I can agree, but it's proprietary Sony technology so it can't really be used in CM without weird tricks.
3.Stock is pretty fast starting from .205 update. Eat battery? It depends on that how you flash the ROM, I can easily get 3-4+ hours screen on time.
2. I won't even comment about that, your ignorance totally killed me.
1.FC Festive? Custom ROMs based on AOSP are way stabler than stock ROMs.
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then you didnt tried them the only stable custom rom is AOSP by vanir and it lacks the notification bar controll and the features
and please amuse me and tell me what is the right way to flash a rom other than flashing the kernel , wiping data and cache and dalvik, flashing the rom then reboot ?
Marionette said:
eXistenZ is the best stock based rom atm,AT LEAST IN MY OPINION,others may find other roms better.it has NO BUGS,it has speed enchantment,and when you turn Stamina mode On,you will have a hard time draining the battery
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existenZ is slow compared to every single rom out there and as i said we didnt get an upate in 3 months or more
i bet that ill find a developer who will comment right now saying that he does this for free and he has a life and he is busy and we should be gratefull
if you are busy and you are doing this for free then why you started it from the beginning ?
just drop the project and delete your thread instead of making us FC everyday and sink in bugs
@aliiahmed.20
I tried AOKP, PAC, PA, CM10.2, CM11, Stock odexed and deodexed, and also ExistenZ from the first version(based on 4.1.2). So yeah, I didn't try them.
Well, looking at your posts I thought you were dirty flashing from stock to CM11 and other ROMs, because with your issues it's impossible that you clean flashed everything.
And about the developers and their work - they can't do that, why? Because people like you will complain about no updates, bugs and no support...
MrSteve555 said:
@aliiahmed.20
I tried AOKP, PAC, PA, CM10.2, CM11, Stock odexed and deodexed, and also ExistenZ from the first version(based on 4.1.2). So yeah, I didn't try them.
Well, looking at your posts I thought you were dirty flashing from stock to CM11 and other ROMs, because with your issues it's impossible that you clean flashed everything.
And about the developers and their work - they can't do that, why? Because people like you will complain about no updates, bugs and no support...
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Then please amuse me with how i do a clean flash like you ?
aliiahmed.20 said:
Then please amuse me with how i do a clean flash like you ?
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Well, you wrote the correct steps earlier, but you didn't include formatting /system, so in the flashing process some files were left intact thanks by updater-script backuptool.
Anyway, it's not just about the correct or incorrect way. It just seems like a user mistake for me...
Let's end this discussion now, I don't want to fight with anyone about why custom ROMs on their phones perform worse than for happy majority.
MrSteve555 said:
Well, you wrote the correct steps earlier, but you didn't include formatting /system, so in the flashing process some files were left intact thanks by updater-script backuptool.
Anyway, it's not just about the correct or incorrect way. It just seems like a user mistake for me...
Let's end this discussion now, I don't want to fight with anyone about why custom ROMs on their phones perform worse than for happy majority.
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I do format the system and i do wipe battery stats i dont think you would add anything to my knowledge
and happy majority yeah right
aliiahmed.20 said:
I do format the system and i do wipe battery stats i dont think you would add anything to my knowledge
and happy majority yeah right
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Wiping battery stats is completely useless step.
Yes, happy majority on(for example) CM/PA/PAC that enjoys the smoothness, stability and battery life of these ROMs(ofc you will argue about that these ROMs have no updates, no support, ppor battery life and performance, but as I said, the discussion about that is ended).
aliiahmed.20 said:
existenZ is slow compared to every single rom out there and as i said we didnt get an upate in 3 months or more
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I dont even know why we are wasting our time on you...Pls buy another phone,leave us alone.However, I doubt that even the note 3 will be good for you,as you are lost in space and time.eXistenz was updated 1/7/2014,that was 1 month and almost 2 weeks ago,not 3 months.The reason it wasnt updated is that there is no reason for it to be updated at the moment.The illusion that you put yourself in is false and broken,as only ROMs which arent complete need updates every day,or if they added new features.All stock based roms give you the latest SONY UI,and if you dont like them,SONY isnt the right company for you.None of us notice lag on it,or on any custom rom.I dont know what your complex brain expects from a phone this good.If you arent satisfied,try unlocking the bootloader,and installing FXPCM11,that rom is blazing fast,but the bootloader unlock is the price for it.I am honestly using NexusCM11,and it is fast and smooth as butter.try following install instructions completely,and the ROMs wont lag.You cant just pop a thread,with a goal of insulting people who do much more for their property than you.If you think they all suck,you can make one yourself,so we can admire your ambitions.But the bigger chance is simply that you can not be satisfied,even if someone gave you a xperia z2/galaxy s5/note 3 or the lg g3.You would always complain.But I have an idea!
Care only for performance?
Buy a Nokia phone from the previous century,those things dont lag,and can be used as weapons to smack someones head off.
Marionette said:
I dont even know why we are wasting our time on you...Pls buy another phone,leave us alone.However, I doubt that even the note 3 will be good for you,as you are lost in space and time.eXistenz was updated 1/7/2014,that was 1 month and almost 2 weeks ago,not 3 months.The reason it wasnt updated is that there is no reason for it to be updated at the moment.The illusion that you put yourself in is false and broken,as only ROMs which arent complete need updates every day,or if they added new features.All stock based roms give you the latest SONY UI,and if you dont like them,SONY isnt the right company for you.None of us notice lag on it,or on any custom rom.I dont know what your complex brain expects from a phone this good.If you arent satisfied,try unlocking the bootloader,and installing FXPCM11,that rom is blazing fast,but the bootloader unlock is the price for it.I am honestly using NexusCM11,and it is fast and smooth as butter.try following install instructions completely,and the ROMs wont lag.You cant just pop a thread,with a goal of insulting people who do much more for their property than you.If you think they all suck,you can make one yourself,so we can admire your ambitions.But the bigger chance is simply that you can not be satisfied,even if someone gave you a xperia z2/galaxy s5/note 3 or the lg g3.You would always complain.But I have an idea!
Care only for performance?
Buy a Nokia phone from the previous century,those things dont lag,and can be used as weapons to smack someones head off.
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well you gave me a hint who i should be using this nokia on
and if you are just gonna tell me get another phone then please delete this comment and delete yourself
I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION AND NO ONE ANSWERED BECAUSE GUESS WHAT !
NO ONE CAN
all you can do is just attack me which is totally okay with me but untill you give ma link of a thread of a good rom you conversation is invaild

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