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today i dropped my alpine as i got out of my car.. smashed onto gravel, and had some annoying scars. thank god, there's nothing wrong with it, but the problem is the stylus seems not to fit well in the silo. it makes some scretching sound when i put it in... how to fix it, another problem is that, there's a tiny dot in the screen, it's so annoying when watching clips.. it happened even before that "dropped" incident. if want to send to service centre, do they charge for it? how about that stylus prob? and how much would it cost normally to change the front and rear cover
Eh, bad week. First comes the small crack in my Kaiser's screen, getting out of a car, then somehow the bottom of my cup from BK giving out in my car, pouring water into the area where I leave my phone.
I know you folks have read a fair share of water damage problems, I have searched around for the last hour or two reading threads, but to my avail, haven't came across anyone with the same problem as I.
Basically, as the phone stands at the moment, it's basically completely stock. Haven't flashed anything, added a few programs, etc. Haven't upgraded the battery; everything is how it would be buying a brand new phone, essentially. As for my problem, yes, the water sensitive sticker is pink. The phone was probably sitting in about a half inch of water for 10 minutes; only the bottom half (everything below the LCD) got wet. Then, it probably sat in my pocket for a good 10 minutes before I noticed my leg was getting drenched. I took it out of my pocket, only to see my screen going berserk, thinking that it had to do with my small crack in my screen from the day before. (The crack only runs about 1/8th of an inch in the bottom left corner. The touch screen and LCD were working absolutely fine the entire day with it there.) I noticed the bottom of the phone was wet, took the battery out, etc., and promptly took the SD card and my SIM out as well. I dried everything off, as there wasn't really much water anywhere, just streaks of water here and there, let the phone sit in front of the heat in the car for a good half hour or so, and decided to test it out to see if it works.
Normally, I'd be afraid to put the battery in so quick, but everything seemed pretty dry. On my first attempt, it booted up absolutely fine, with the exception of lasting long. After the AT&T screen and the norm, I got to my home screen where the screen ended up breaking up into pixels and slowly fading black, then to white. I decided to take the battery out and let it dry again.
I got home earlier tonight, took out the hair dryer, dried it on very low heat for 30 minutes, just to be sure, and tried again. This time, everything boots up, with the exception of the graphics. It goes to a very-bright white screen, where the AT&T logo would normally be, then dims a bit, where the green windows mobile load would be, then stays that way. After I know it's fully booted, everything works, but the screen is still white. Keyboard lights up, I can receive and make calls, speaker works. Hell, I know the camera works as well because the back-light goes the brightest when I hit the camera button, and take a picture I can hear the shutter sound.. despite no graphics.
My question is, do you guys think it has to do with the crack in the screen at all, or the water damage? If I had to take a guess, it would be the water. If I touch the crack, or any part of the screen, I don't get the normal black/white discoloring someone would normally get. Yet, why would everything be functional except the screen? Since I bought the phone off of Ebay, I have absolutely no coverage with AT&T, and never planned to anyway, my only resort would be to either mess with the phone itself, or find a repair service.. and of course buying another tilt, which, could kind of burn a hole in my pocket with the holidays and all. I'm tempted to go buy a set of T torx, but of course it'd be my first time taking apart this device and if it is repairable, I'm not trying to be the sole "act" of bricking it.
Anyone have any thoughts or comments? Anything would be appreciated.
Thanks, Scott.
Edit: Gah, just got another RLOD. I've gotten past this once already.. it ended up being my manufacturer's charger. When I toggled with it for awhile, nothing seemed to fix it. I got pissed one night, and jammed the old charger into the USB slot, and viola, amber light. I changed chargers right away, and it's been working fine since. I just tried messing with it again, but nothing happened. I guess I'm going to take apart the device, leave everything standing for a few days, and see what happens, unless of course, someone provides a decent solution to this.
Edit2: Lol, Amber light again. I hate this ****. I'm really looking into the Fuze, but once again, I'd like to get this up and running.
The first thing to do if you get water damage is pull the battery and do not put it back in until you're well beyond sure it's dry and clean. If the liquid was salt water, soda, etc, it would have to be cleaned, then dried.
Otherwise, probably garbage. Especially considering it ran for a while when wet, and you then tried to power it back up after wiping it off.
khaytsus said:
The first thing to do if you get water damage is pull the battery and do not put it back in until you're well beyond sure it's dry and clean. If the liquid was salt water, soda, etc, it would have to be cleaned, then dried.
Otherwise, probably garbage. Especially considering it ran for a while when wet, and you then tried to power it back up after wiping it off.
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unfortunately this is quite true... I've been working with electronics (specifically printed circuit boards & surface mount technology) for nearly 2 decades and have seen a number of items with water damage come out fine if it was powered down, cleaned and dried properly.
Disassembly of the tilt and hermes is very easy, especially with Mike's guide. But you have a digital problem. You could take it appart and try to clean the surfaces of the circuit boards with a q-tip and some Isopropyl alcohol, possibly a short amoungst one of the IC's. I think at this point, you've got nothing left to loose. Good luck none the less, let us know what happens. PM me if you think I can help!
Thanks guys, I'll see what I can do.
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I was wondering if the OP managed to get this sorted ? I have the same problem, due to phone somehow being exposed to water. the OS loads fine, but screen stays white.
Is there any solution ?
Thanks
I've seen some threads about this on other tabs, like the Galaxy Tab 10.1, but not on the Asus tablets yet. On my TF701T, I noticed over the past month that when I take it out of the case I have for it (a neoprene case with a zipper), it has a spot in the middle about the size of two quarters that looks like moisture under the glass.
Within a few seconds of turning it on (and sometimes not even turning it on), it disappears by quickly getting smaller and smaller into the center.
All of this, not a big deal.
However, last night I saw something even more odd....the spot disappeared with the exception of a ring of moisture (instead of a full circle) that stayed and wouldn't go away (again, slightly larger than a quarter). Touching parts of the screen would jiggle the ring. It seems like something was happening in the LCD display.
In the past when it went away, I assumed the screen was warming up and causing it to go away. However since it didn't this time, I thought something was damaged.
I saw a bizarre thread somewhere that suggested to put it in the fridge or freezer for a short time and the cooling would make it go away....if I remember correctly, it may have implied that the LCD and digitizer where touching or stuck together. I figured, what the heck, I stuck it in the freezer for a few minutes. When I got it out, it was nice an cold, and the spot was gone.
Has anyone seen this? Anyone know anything about what this would occur and why the cold would fix it?
Thanks,
chris
I had exactly the same issue you described. The moisture spot would always go away eventually. However, one day, while in use, the screen suddenly died. The tablet was still working fine (confirmed with an hdmi cable). I was unlocked, so the tablet became useless. I have no idea if the moisture and screen failures were related or not, but if you are not unlocked, I'd probably try to get it repaired.
I suspect that what you and I have is a gap between the LCD and the digitizer. We have (3) tf701t's in our house now and no moisture spots yet on any of them.
Hope this helps.
derekk1 said:
I had exactly the same issue you described. The moisture spot would always go away eventually. However, one day, while in use, the screen suddenly died. The tablet was still working fine (confirmed with an hdmi cable). I was unlocked, so the tablet became useless. I have no idea if the moisture and screen failures were related or not, but if you are not unlocked, I'd probably try to get it repaired.
I suspect that what you and I have is a gap between the LCD and the digitizer. We have (3) tf701t's in our house now and no moisture spots yet on any of them.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, good to know. I am unfortunately already rooted and running sbdags rom. It is interesting that it only happens when I have had it in the case for a little while. Hadn't happened again for about a week, but started happened again last night. Fortunately, it went away on its own again very quickly. Oh well, it is what it is.
blickley said:
I've seen some threads about this on other tabs, like the Galaxy Tab 10.1, but not on the Asus tablets yet. On my TF701T, I noticed over the past month that when I take it out of the case I have for it (a neoprene case with a zipper), it has a spot in the middle about the size of two quarters that looks like moisture under the glass.
Within a few seconds of turning it on (and sometimes not even turning it on), it disappears by quickly getting smaller and smaller into the center.
All of this, not a big deal.
However, last night I saw something even more odd....the spot disappeared with the exception of a ring of moisture (instead of a full circle) that stayed and wouldn't go away (again, slightly larger than a quarter). Touching parts of the screen would jiggle the ring. It seems like something was happening in the LCD display.
In the past when it went away, I assumed the screen was warming up and causing it to go away. However since it didn't this time, I thought something was damaged.
I saw a bizarre thread somewhere that suggested to put it in the fridge or freezer for a short time and the cooling would make it go away....if I remember correctly, it may have implied that the LCD and digitizer where touching or stuck together. I figured, what the heck, I stuck it in the freezer for a few minutes. When I got it out, it was nice an cold, and the spot was gone.
Has anyone seen this? Anyone know anything about what this would occur and why the cold would fix it?
Thanks,
chris
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I have also noticed the same spot after pulling my tablet out of the neoprene case. I have been getting itchy to root but now I will hold off. Maybe I should try the freezer fix?
Thanks for post!
ASUS Tf701 moisture ring center of glass
I had this happen in the past, but it always went away when I turned the tablet on. I always store it in a leather case, the screen never touches anything. It recently came back and will not go away. I've been reading threads about putting it in the freezer for a short time....my question is, how long have people left it in there, 2 minutes, 5 minutes? The spot is driving me crazy since it now won't go away.
Thanks for your assistance!
Roni
I have the same problem with my TF701T. But I noticed it isn't moisture between the screen but digitizer and the LCD screen touching eachother? If you bend the tablet really slightly towards you, you'll see the "moisture" go away. Don't have to apply too much force. Might be just design flaw IMO.
I will explain what happened as elaborate as possible so that some of you can help me with the problem I've been facing.
I have put my phone in water about 5 - 10 cms in my aquarium for a video. 1 was 20 seconds and as it came well. I've took another video for 47 seconds. After that I've tried checking for problem in any component of phone and everything went well. I've shared videos and then used my phone as usual for a long time and phone was completely normal.
I've placed my phone on dock for charging and the magnet didn't work in the first instant. They just didn't stick. I thought it was some issue and I just rubbed my phone to the dock twice or thrice and the magnetic action came back along with a wide array of problems.
I removed from dock while charging and the screen started to randomly blink and the touch never worked. I placed it back in the dock and it charged normally. After a while I've removed it from the dock and the screen got blank all of a sudden scaring me to death. I placed it back and again took it. This time it worked completely normal as if nothing happened and I was able to send a text message. I thought that was just for one time and placed it back for charging and that was the last time my phone touch screen worked.
I removed from the dock after a while trying to unlock the screen and nothing happens. I could use all the hard buttons on the screen. I was able to capture photos using the camera button. Change volume, lock and unlock screen. I tried switching off using the method of volume up + power button. It turned off and on turning on it got even bad. The sony logo blinks a lot it goes dim it comes bright and all sorts of weird things happened. I've removed the sim card and turned on the phone to charge and now the phone restarts after every few minutes.
Even now except the touch screen everything else works fine like the camera. I tried removing the screen protector but that didn't help.
Hoping to have an answer other than taking it to a service center.
Thanks
It seems that not all of z1s are waterproof. I had mine in the sea in about 1 meter deep for 30mins and its still completely functional ( I wash it every day too). Anyway, sorry to tell you but simply there isn't any way to fix it yourself. The only thing you can do is take it to service. And more bad news to come: your warranty doesn't cover damage from water, so you will have to pay. The only thing you can try is blowing your phone with a hairdryer for a few secs, but thats risky.
Took it to the service center. Asked them to check the flaps before they accepted the mobile and there was no water through flaps as the flap litmus is completely unaffected. They took it under warranty and the next day called me to say that it had water in the display connector and the same warranty void answer but I've requested to let me know how the water went inside and they said it was through the bottom speaker grill which clearly means manufacturing defect. Along with escalating the issue I've also asked for a quote for the repair if the warranty gets void and today they came up with this wonderful quote of ₹20,179 its wonderful because I purchased the phone for ₹17,600 just a month ago. The request for manufacturing defect inspection is under progress so I wish to get some good news.
More strange things here. I have completely lost all of my speaker grill but my phone is still 100% waterproof. It's clearly a manufacturing defect, but I doubt they will accept it . Sony support and service is just terrible
My OP3 was kept in a bag (water resistant), during a heavy rain, I thought the phone is safe in that bag. But some water got leaked into the bag and the phone was kept in the bag for almost 1hour.
When I checked the phone after reaching home, it's got turned off(enough charge was there), I tried to turn it on, it did light up for a while and then turned off. I used a hair dryer to dry it and kept it in rice for 2 days. After that, it turned on normally, I tried to charge it. I got a call after few minutes of charging, spoke for a minute, but after the call the screen didn't light up. My phone is working fine except the screen. touch is working fine, I can unlock using the touch screen (It has a pattern lock), I can use google assistant to make calls, play music. But just that screen is not lighting up.
I am not sure what to do now, I think the issue is because of some short circuit. I don't think it's a right question to ask, can it be fixed without the whole screen replacement? (I think screen costs too much for my budget), also please share me if you have any links for buying the screen.
Thanks, everyone, have a nice day.
It's very likely that there is "only" some corrosion by the display connector because of the water. This probably causes the short circuit. If you can see some corrosion inside the phone (especially under the display connector) on the board, clean it carefully with a soft toothbrush and Isoprpyl alcohol (from the pharmacy).
Worked for me on my old Xperia.
Good luck!
imtmh said:
My OP3 was kept in a bag (water resistant), during a heavy rain, I thought the phone is safe in that bag. But some water got leaked into the bag and it was kept in the bag for almost 1hour.
When I checked the phone after reaching home, it was off, I tried to turn it on, it did light up for a while and then turned off. I used a hair dryer to dry it and kept it in rice for 2 days. After that, it turned on normally, I tried to charge it. I got a call after few minutes of charging, spoke for a minute, but after the call the screen didn't light up. My phone is working fine except the screen. touch is working fine, I can unlock using the touch screen (It has a pattern lock), I can use google assistant to make calls, play music. But just that screen is not lighting up.
I am not sure what to do now, I think the issue is because of some short circuit. I don't think it's a right question to ask, can it be fixed without the whole screen replacement? (I think screen costs too much for my budget), also please share me if you have any links for buying the screen.
Thanks, everyone, have a nice day.
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Open up the phone and clean it out.. Might be some corrosion indeed. Watch JerryRigEverything, he explains it very well. I wonder, how much water came inside?
imtmh said:
My OP3 was kept in a bag (water resistant), during a heavy rain, I thought the phone is safe in that bag. But some water got leaked into the bag and it was kept in the bag for almost 1hour.
When I checked the phone after reaching home, it was off, I tried to turn it on, it did light up for a while and then turned off. I used a hair dryer to dry it and kept it in rice for 2 days. After that, it turned on normally, I tried to charge it. I got a call after few minutes of charging, spoke for a minute, but after the call the screen didn't light up. My phone is working fine except the screen. touch is working fine, I can unlock using the touch screen (It has a pattern lock), I can use google assistant to make calls, play music. But just that screen is not lighting up.
I am not sure what to do now, I think the issue is because of some short circuit. I don't think it's a right question to ask, can it be fixed without the whole screen replacement? (I think screen costs too much for my budget), also please share me if you have any links for buying the screen.
Thanks, everyone, have a nice day.
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Yes mate, this is your only option, to open up the phone and check for rust. Be sure to dissconect the battery, and use coke in case you find any corrosion or rust. Googd luck