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Hello,
On august 3rd, I was selling my email adresses on Ebay : [email protected] and [email protected]
I said on the description: READ CAREFULLY, THESE ARE NOT PHONES, BUT EMAIL ADRESSES
Someone bought my item, and paid for it
I woke up this morning and found that the buyer ( 1 and half month later ) ... Opened a dispute on paypal saying he never received the item ? I sent him the password 30mn after the end of the auction.
My point of view is that he didn't read carefully the description and now, thought it was a BlackBerry Torch and now, he wants his money back because of a mistake.
What can I say on the dispute on paypal ?
I have 4 options on Paypal:
Provide Shipping Information
Evidence Other than proof of shipment
Proof that I refunded the money
I will accept liability
Which one should I take since I sent the password vie E-mail ?
Thanks for your help.
Curious.. you sold an email? Hoe much for?
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MacaronyMax said:
Curious.. you sold an email? Hoe much for?
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Also curious, I've been wondering what to do with that box full of old email adresses......
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
Someone having business or a fan of Blackberry could use it
What can I do now ?
Show Paypal the original ad. If you were aboveboard and the ad clearly stated there was no physical product, just an email address, then the buyer had no basis for dispute.
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If you've sold someone free email addresses that are actually the property of someone else (Google and Microsoft in this case) then I LOL at you for the fact that the buyer will possibly get their money back. You didn't deserve it in the first place.
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TJBunch1228 said:
Show Paypal the original ad. If you were aboveboard and the ad clearly stated there was no physical product, just an email address, then the buyer had no basis for dispute.
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The buyer said that he didn't received the item.
On the dispute, I made a Screen showing an email where I sent the passwords to the buyer.
That should be fine ?
M2oSa said:
The buyer said that he didn't received the item.
On the dispute, I made a Screen showing an email where I sent the passwords to the buyer.
That should be fine ?
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IF the transaction is legal, showing a copy of the email with the password should suffice. However, you technically do not own either of those email addresses. They are property of Google and Microsoft and are leased to you for free. I'm not sure you have a legal right to profit from them. Just a thought.
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M2oSa said:
The buyer said that he didn't received the item.
On the dispute, I made a Screen showing an email where I sent the passwords to the buyer.
That should be fine ?
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Basically your get-rich-quick scheme is about to blow up in your face. I think you'll find that ebay are about to do an Inception on you. i.e, the fact that you have violated the Terms and Conditions of both Hotmail and Gmail will mean that you have also violated ebays own T&Cs when you traded those addresses.
I hope i'm wrong, but would you bet the bank on it?
Edit: Don't get me wrong, i admire the entrepreneur spirit, but this is not that different from cybersquatting, and the powers that be NEVER rule in favour of the little guy in those cases.
It's not a " get rich scheme " ...
I created those adresses because I used to be a BBerry User ...
But since I moved to Android, I can sell them because they were mine and I don't need it anymore.
Well, that's not the point. The buyer said he didn't received the passwords but I have an E-mail where I sent the password. I did a screenshot and send it to paypal.
That's works ?
( We are solving it on Paypal.com, not Ebay
Put it this way. You are on the middle of a tightrope, 1000ft above a screaming hoard of greedy lawyers; Google lawyers on one side, Microsoft lawyers on the other. At the far end of the rope are ebay lawyers and behind you is a disgruntled netizen with a pitchfork.
Good luck dude!
Well, if we forget about lawyers and stuff like that ....
I sait that it was email adresses ..
I wrote READ CAREFULLY in Red, Bold !
Then, it's his fault, no ?
And I have a proof of delivery ?
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Well, if we forget about lawyers and stuff like that ....
I sait that it was email adresses ..
I wrote READ CAREFULLY in Red, Bold !
Then, it's his fault, no ?
And I have a proof of delivery ?
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Yeah, it's as airtight as a sieve, but i'm convinced!
Seriously, i wish you luck. It'd be nice if the little guy wins one for a change...and i f*****g hate lawyers!
Q) What do you call a thousand lawyers on the bottom of the ocean? A) A good start!
Loooool thanks for your help !
Have a nice day
EXPRESS ELECTRONICS LTD?
I'm searching for buying a new galaxy note. I found one that have real people talk to me at skype.
I wanna know that can i believe this website.
http://expresselectronicsltd.appee.co.uk/
Seeing as its so cheap and there are selling an iphone 4g which doesn't exist looks a bit dodgy!
Serious companies don't do business over Skype.
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zenicz said:
EXPRESS ELECTRONICS LTD?
I'm searching for buying a new galaxy note. I found one that have real people talk to me at skype.
I wanna know that can i believe this website.
http://expresselectronicsltd.appee.co.uk/
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The easiest way of checking if a company is legitimate or not is check the "Support" or "Contact us" pages:
* If they do not exist the company is not legitimate
* If the information there is missing vital information the company is not legitimate
* If they use hotmail, yahoo or gmail accounts it is not legitimate (unless it's a one- or two-man small-time shop, something which this one clearly doesn't claim to be)
Both #2 and #3 apply to this company, ie. do not spend any money there or use your credit/debit card, you'll only be sorry.
Just had a look too, looks very dodgy.
Contact us is : [email protected]
Their prices are on most items, too good to be true, usually if that is the case, they probably are.
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This shop has not currently been set up to accept payments. Please check back in the near future.
thank you so much.
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Sorry to bump and old thread but i came across this and thought i'd clear things up:
This website is not legitimate so stay away! I currently work for Express Electronics and this website is using our address claiming to be a real company.
Our email domain ends in @express-elect.com and we would never use @gmail / @hotmail accounts to do business. I'm not going to post our link as i'm not here to advertise i just want people to be aware of this as we have received many emails with complaints directed at us regarding this.
To add to this we don't sell iphones /ipad commerical products, we specialise in electronic components.
Kindest Regards;
im starting a new business and im looking for an email service provider that i can get push notifications to my cell (epic touch 4g). i know those aint free like gmail or hotmail but looking for something good but economic
can anyone recommend any thing?
http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/index.html
It costs $5 a month, and you'll get [email protected] and you'll be able to add different business tools/apps to your account. It will work like regular Gmail, and it's easy to set it up on your phone. 30 days free trial.
any other option out there i could possible consider before deciding on this one
i used 1and1 when i started my business. it came with 50 email slots for employess and a stock website that was easy to change around. I was very happy with them and their service.
alaman68 what do you use now?
Ma$etas said:
any other option out there i could possible consider before deciding on this one
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I think Microsoft has something similar. Haven't used Domain.com but it's $1.99 /month.
Ma$etas said:
alaman68 what do you use now?
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nothing, sold that business to a bank for a lot of TARP money
I am planning another company in the few months and i definitely will use them again because it was so easy. One word of advice, when you check different registries for name availability, they will hold that name so you can't take it from godaddy to myfreedomain.
Give 1and1 a look. they also have a sales department you can call with questions to make sure they do meet your individual needs.
thinking of going with Gmail for business i use the trial and see how it goes
hey the business im starting is a trucking business and have been having trouble with coming up with the name thats not already being used by someone else
We will work CA, AZ, NV, NM, TX , mainly with Produce and Dry freight we bring in alot of international product into the states (yes i know this is waaaayyyy off topic but if you can help that be great)
cant find anything so last resort is
740 Transportation ... what do you guys think???
Gmail All the Way and +5 more and you can add 25 gigs to your account. Really Good.
The problem with gmail is the support. It was impossible to receive decent support... I agree with free service = no support. But not when you pay.
Look for a hosted exchange company that is available on phone, by chat or email. It was the major point in my decision.
If you ordered your Nexus 7 from Google Play, you paid $19.99 for 2-day shipping.
But many (if not all) Canadian customers had whose Nexus went out this week had their packages shipped UPS Standard.
I sent e-mails yesterday and today, and didn't hear back, so I finally called tonight. I had to wait 25 minutes to speak to someone, but when I did, he was friendly and nice. Looked into it, said it was a fluke, and told me they'd issue a refund.
A $10.50 refund just appeared in my Google Wallet account. Not exactly what I'd been expecting, but I suppose it's better than nothing.
If your package was shipped UPS Standard, I recommend calling.
The above was from another web site that someone else posted.
I called the main Google number, 1-855-83NEXUS and spoke to the front line worker who stated he knew nothing about the switch to standard delivery but created a ticket and forwarded it on to the powers that be. This is the same route the other person had happen. I will update later if i also get the credit.
A partial refund of the $20 Canadian shipping isn't acceptable when they've shipped weeks late to Canada.
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ijeff said:
A partial refund of the $20 Canadian shipping isn't acceptable when they've shipped weeks late to Canada.
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Update i win
just got an email from google play
Thanks for contacting Google. For your troubles, I’ve gone ahead and refunded the CAD 19.99 in shipping charges for this order. The funds will be returned to your card within 7 business days.
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Update i win
just got an email from google play
Thanks for contacting Google. For your troubles, I’ve gone ahead and refunded the CAD 19.99 in shipping charges for this order. The funds will be returned to your card within 7 business days.
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how do you request a refund for shipping?
I just called and basically I told them that my shipping wasn't the 2 day shipping on the website and that it was UPS Standard instead.
Basically they said they'd put a request for reimbursement and said i'd hear back with them in about a week.
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I just called and basically I told them that my shipping wasn't the 2 day shipping on the website and that it was UPS Standard instead.
Basically they said they'd put a request for reimbursement and said i'd hear back with them in about a week.
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alright thanks i'll be calling them
From the timeline I can work out from your posts, it took about 5 days to get a reply to the email? I've emailed (yesterday) but not called.
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hpka said:
From the timeline I can work out from your posts, it took about 5 days to get a reply to the email? I've emailed (yesterday) but not called.
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Not a word from them after the Initial call. Then received an email on the 4th day about the full refund. Email will not work as they do not reply to them, you have to call. They will ask you for your email account you used to order it from ie: gmail and will respond back to that account.
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Not a word from them after the Initial call. Then received an email on the 4th day about the full refund. Email will not work as they do not reply to them, you have to call. They will ask you for your email account you used to order it from ie: gmail and will respond back to that account.
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I was afraid of that... I think I'll wait for the rush to die down a bit then get on the phone
I just called that number and was told they couldn't refund as they had no tool to do so but they would put a note on my file. Was told to go to the play . Google . com and get to my order through Google wallet and ask for a refund of the shipping. Hope it works.
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I just called, got through to a guy right away (1:30am EDT lol). He said the same: Can't do anything, forward to specialist to take a look at it. We'll see if I get the refund.
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I just called, got through to a guy right away (1:30am EDT lol). He said the same: Can't do anything, forward to specialist to take a look at it. We'll see if I get the refund.
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That's exactly right the front line worker can not do anything, he passes it on to the specialist and they look at it. Once it has been determined that there was a shipping error you will receive an email from them.
Well I just called Google Play and he pretty much said that they are aware of the issue and instantly started the process to credit my account. Good thing I saw this thread - I admit I was a little perturbed that I didn't get my 2 day shipping but I was going to let it slide. Now I'll get a small refund.
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Well I just called Google Play and he pretty much said that they are aware of the issue and instantly started the process to credit my account. Good thing I saw this thread - I admit I was a little perturbed that I didn't get my 2 day shipping but I was going to let it slide. Now I'll get a small refund.
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"aware of the issue" as in they'll start refunding all of us soon, or should I still call in?
the csr never forwarded me to any specialist just saying that he will put a request note for me..will try to call again to follow up next 3 days
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"aware of the issue" as in they'll start refunding all of us soon, or should I still call in?
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Oh I doubt that they will retroactively go back and credit everyone....only for the people that actually call in and complain. So I definitely would place the call and request a refund of the difference. I had mentioned to the person that it shipped as UPS Standard and that I paid for 2 day (wasn't much of a choice when ordering) and he said that there was some glitch somewhere and started the refund process of the difference. Didn't have any issues.
I just called the hotline that OP posted and explained to them the same thing. They said they need to forward my issue to the "shipping team", and I'll get an e-mail in a few days with a final decision as to what they will do about my request for a refund (of the shipping).
money fully refunded
Final update
Jul 25, 2012 GOOGLE *Google Play GOOGLE.COM/CHNS
19.99
was just redeposited back into my credit card
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I just called the hotline that OP posted and explained to them the same thing. They said they need to forward my issue to the "shipping team", and I'll get an e-mail in a few days with a final decision as to what they will do about my request for a refund (of the shipping).
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did you received any email after you ended your call that has the call reference number, your request for refund and the operator's name?
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did you received any email after you ended your call that has the call reference number, your request for refund and the operator's name?
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nope
Bought AT&T Note 3 from craigslist. Seller reported it as stolen after selling it to me. AT&T now blacklisted the phone. What can I do?
So I fully verified the phone before buying it, checked IMEI at AT&T store and everything was clean. I paid $570 for the phone to the craigslist guy. Two hours later, he reported it as stolen to get another phone from his AT&T insurance. AT&T detected the IMEI of my Note 3 and blacklisted the phone.
I already filed a case with the police. I have all the proof that I bought the phone and I also remembered his license plate of the car. Did some google search and I have the Guy's full name, his car information and his house address. I have all the documents to prove that I bought the phone from him.
I went to AT&T store and also talked to 3 different people at AT&T customer care. Even though I have all the documents, AT&T refused to remove the phone from blacklist. As per AT&T, the only way to remove it from blacklist is to have the original owner call AT&T and request for it.
The police also didn't seem very positive. They kinda told me that they will do their best but they can't guarantee anything and they will have to talk to AT&T about the policy. Its been 45 days since I reported the case to the police and there has not been any progress yet. One of the police officer 'hinted' me that I should sell the phone to someone else on craigslist.
What can I do in this situation, reddit? Please help me. I think changing IMEI is illegal and very difficult to do. I know changing IMEI discussion is not allowed on this forum, but I own a pantex dumb phone from 10 years ago. Can I replace my IMEI with another phone I own? Is there any other way to get my phone working?
TL;DR: Purchased a phone from craigslist, seller reported it as stolen to benefit from insurance fraud. Police and AT&T refused to help even though I have all proof and document that I bought the phone from the guy. I have the guy's house address and phone number.
AlwaysNoob said:
Bought AT&T Note 3 from craigslist. Seller reported it as stolen after selling it to me. AT&T now blacklisted the phone. What can I do?
So I fully verified the phone before buying it, checked IMEI at AT&T store and everything was clean. I paid $570 for the phone to the craigslist guy. Two hours later, he reported it as stolen to get another phone from his AT&T insurance. AT&T detected the IMEI of my Note 3 and blacklisted the phone.
I already filed a case with the police. I have all the proof that I bought the phone and I also remembered his license plate of the car. Did some google search and I have the Guy's full name, his car information and his house address. I have all the documents to prove that I bought the phone from him.
I went to AT&T store and also talked to 3 different people at AT&T customer care. Even though I have all the documents, AT&T refused to remove the phone from blacklist. As per AT&T, the only way to remove it from blacklist is to have the original owner call AT&T and request for it.
The police also didn't seem very positive. They kinda told me that they will do their best but they can't guarantee anything and they will have to talk to AT&T about the policy. Its been 45 days since I reported the case to the police and there has not been any progress yet. One of the police officer 'hinted' me that I should sell the phone to someone else on craigslist.
What can I do in this situation, reddit? Please help me. I think changing IMEI is illegal and very difficult to do. I know changing IMEI discussion is not allowed on this forum, but I own a pantex dumb phone from 10 years ago. Can I replace my IMEI with another phone I own? Is there any other way to get my phone working?
TL;DR: Purchased a phone from craigslist, seller reported it as stolen to benefit from insurance fraud. Police and AT&T refused to help even though I have all proof and document that I bought the phone from the guy. I have the guy's house address and phone number.
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You can indeed file a police report. He stole your IMEI number. That's what you are filling the report on. Your proof of purchase is what you need to show the police showing that you own that IMEI number. Take him to small claims court if you have to, it normally cost $25 bucks or so depending on where your located and present your case. AT&T can also help you, but it depends on how you sugar coat it to who you're talking to.
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You can indeed file a police report. He stole your IMEI number. That's what you are filling the report on. Your proof of purchase is what you need to show the police showing that you own that IMEI number. Take him to small claims court if you have to, it normally cost $25 bucks or so depending on where your located and present your case. AT&T can also help you, but it depends on how you sugar coat it to who you're talking to.
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As I said, I already filed a police report 45 days ago.
From Police: "We are still investigating. We have filed subpoena to AT&T to release the seller's account information" I tried following up with police couple of times and I get the same response everytime. Police has a copy of all the documents and my email exchange including phone logs with the seller.
As per AT&T: "As far as we are concerned, the phone still belongs to the original owner, and ONLY HE can call AT&T to remove the phone from AT&T blacklist". I showed AT&T the proof of purchase and copy of the police report I filed but they didnt care looking at it.
At this point, I am down $570. I do not want to scam someone else on craigslist by selling this phone. I just want this phone to work. Is there anyway I can get this working?
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Agent said:
You can indeed file a police report. He stole your IMEI number. That's what you are filling the report on. Your proof of purchase is what you need to show the police showing that you own that IMEI number. Take him to small claims court if you have to, it normally cost $25 bucks or so depending on where your located and present your case. AT&T can also help you, but it depends on how you sugar coat it to who you're talking to.
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....root unlock go to net10 or t mobile or simple or metro or straight talk
..case closed
Killamurk said:
....root unlock go to net10 or t mobile or simple or metro or straight talk
..case closed
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They all share the blacklist IMEI, phone is no good on any US GSM network
Killamurk said:
....root unlock go to net10 or t mobile or simple or metro or straight talk
..case closed
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That won't work. Case reopened
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AlwaysNoob said:
As I said, I already filed a police report 45 days ago.
From Police: "We are still investigating. We have filed subpoena to AT&T to release the seller's account information" I tried following up with police couple of times and I get the same response everytime. Police has a copy of all the documents and my email exchange including phone logs with the seller.
As per AT&T: "As far as we are concerned, the phone still belongs to the original owner, and ONLY HE can call AT&T to remove the phone from AT&T blacklist". I showed AT&T the proof of purchase and copy of the police report I filed but they didnt care looking at it.
At this point, I am down $570. I do not want to scam someone else on craigslist by selling this phone. I just want this phone to work. Is there anyway I can get this working?
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You need to find a way to talk to their back office. Your gonna have to do some digging and calling, but ultimately they have the ability to whitelist the phone again. Keep following up at the police department at least once a week to get a status. Ask them how long AT&T has to respond.
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That won't work. Case reopened
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You need to find a way to talk to their back office. Your gonna have to do some digging and calling, but ultimately they have the ability to whitelist the phone again. Keep following up at the police department at least once a week to get a status. Ask them how long AT&T has to respond.
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From the AT&T online link, http://smallbusiness.bellsouth.com/subpoena/
Customer Notification: It is AT&T's policy to attempt to notify our subscriber upon receipt of a civil subpoena demand for their account information. AT&T‘s notification is generally made via U.S. mail to the current account billing address on file. There is a 2 week wait period before disclosure of their information is made.
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So, AT&T will release the information within 2 weeks from the day it received the request. Police filed the subpoena on 25th Nov (Don't know if they faxed it or used the regular mail). By this timeline, I think police should have gotten all the information they need by now. I called the detective last week and she was still waiting for the AT&T's response. I am going to follow up with police again tomorrow. (I dont want to bug police a lot, I dont want to annoy them when they are trying to help me)
On a side note, since I have the guy's address, if I go to his house and knock the door to talk about this-- am I breaking any law here? Is it called trespassing when I have a legit reason to talk to the house owner?
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From the AT&T online link, http://smallbusiness.bellsouth.com/subpoena/
So, AT&T will release the information within 2 weeks from the day it received the request. Police filed the subpoena on 25th Nov (Don't know if they faxed it or used the regular mail). By this timeline, I think police should have gotten all the information they need by now. I called the detective last week and she was still waiting for the AT&T's response. I am going to follow up with police again tomorrow. (I dont want to bug police a lot, I dont want to annoy them when they are trying to help me)
On a side note, since I have the guy's address, if I go to his house and knock the door to talk about this-- am I breaking any law here? Is it called trespassing when I have a legit reason to talk to the house owner?
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Just be careful, you never know about craigslist people. He could shoot you I suppose. As for repairing IMEI's I don't think anyone on XDA will help since they don't like dealing with stolen phones.
AlwaysNoob said:
From the AT&T online link, http://smallbusiness.bellsouth.com/subpoena/
So, AT&T will release the information within 2 weeks from the day it received the request. Police filed the subpoena on 25th Nov (Don't know if they faxed it or used the regular mail). By this timeline, I think police should have gotten all the information they need by now. I called the detective last week and she was still waiting for the AT&T's response. I am going to follow up with police again tomorrow. (I dont want to bug police a lot, I dont want to annoy them when they are trying to help me)
On a side note, since I have the guy's address, if I go to his house and knock the door to talk about this-- am I breaking any law here? Is it called trespassing when I have a legit reason to talk to the house owner?
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I would type up a letter and slide it under his front door. Explain to him that you have filed a police report that is being actively investigated, and that you are prepared to take it to court. Tell him that you simply need him to call AT&T to remove the phone from blacklist.
If I were in your situation, I might even go so far as to suggest (in the letter) that the police are somehow waiting on your permission to pay him a visit (lol idk) OR that AT&T has requested the police report and will block the new IMEI in suspicion of fraud. Also, include all of the info you have on him (i.e. full name, license plate, etc).
I forgot to mention, I know a guy who had this same exact problem. Bought a phone from att had it on his account for awhile then the previous owner reported it stolen.
Att let him buy a brand new Note 3 for new contract price.
It sounds like you have done everything a reasonable person can do in this situation and your efforts will make things a lot easier for the police as it sounds like you have done a lot of the leg work for them.
I know you are out $570.00 and that sucks, but you need to give the police time to gather records, interview the seller and to conduct their investigation. I would recommend given them a call once a week and checking in though so the case does not become stale. A respectful and appreciative attitude will go a long way when speaking to the investigating officer.
I don't know about Minneapolis, but here in small town Alaska, you could anticipate this taking anywhere from a few months to a couple of years to be resolved. I'm sure the police in Minneapolis are just as busy as the police here and this crime isn't a priority to any department unless the crime and or criminal is part of a larger problem that is being investigated.
It's a huge benefit that you have tracked the seller down already and given the police a lot of evidence to go on initially. This alone may move this into a 'give me' arrest and prosecution and police are like anyone else in that they have no problem picking low hanging fruit.
As for going to the sellers house...bad idea. If he has an IQ of 100, he can kill you if so inclined and not face prosecution. By going to his house to 'talk' to him, you will be seen as the aggressor and you do not want to be in that position. Best case scenario is you end up dead, injured or in jail yourself.
Police departments put out PSA's for a reason telling people not to buy phones from Craigslist. It is also common knowledge that if you buy a phone from Craigslist or another unknown private party, you have the seller call the provider and have them release the phone to you before giving them one red cent.
Let the police handle it.
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I forgot to mention, I know a guy who had this same exact problem. Bought a phone from att had it on his account for awhile then the previous owner reported it stolen.
Att let him buy a brand new Note 3 for new contract price.
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For all we know, that dude might on here reading this while checking out the latest SS and ROMs
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For all we know, that dude might on here reading this while checking out the latest SS and ROMs
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SS and ROMs not going to help you with stolen IMEI's
From my time working as a rep and assistant manager for ccare, this will be a hard process to reverse; I saw this happening a lot, divorced couples, estranged friends.This is due to all of the scammers and thieves out there trying to make a quick buck on stolen phones. Its a good thing unfortunately it looks like it works both ways. The idiot doesn't need to report the phone stolen to get an insurance replacement. Att and asurion are two different companies, where they share info when relevant, so after the claim was processed, they wont care if he whitelists the device. But of course he would have to do that, or someone posing as him. The best course is police action; it may take a while, but its probably going to be the only way....
if you unlock it with region lock away by chainfire it will work on any other network regardless of blacklist.
here is a link of the successful story
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537359
TheZander said:
SS and ROMs not going to help you with stolen IMEI's
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I mean the guy who ripped off the op. He might be trying to customize his illegally acquired new Note 3.
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pham818 said:
if you unlock it with region lock away by chainfire it will work on any other network regardless of blacklist.
here is a link of the successful story
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537359
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Having a bad IMEI phone regardless of being unlocked will still be denied by carriers such as MetroPCS and TMobile. That thread you linked he didn't really weigh in on whether or not he used his phone in the USA after being unlocked.
UPDATE: 12/19/13 Received call from Police
So I just received a call from the detective who was investigating the case. She got the information from AT&T. She went to the suspect's house and she interviewed him. Suspect said that this was an "error" and he didn't know about it. The detective made him call AT&T while she was at his house and he removed it from blacklist. Detective told me that she spoke to AT&T too who confirmed that its been removed from blacklist. Detective was told by AT&T that if you power off and power on the device, its good to go now.
But, I called AT&T myself to confirm that this IMEI is removed from blacklist and they denied it. Its still showing as blacklist on AT&T side. The rep told me that if the request was made to remove from blacklist, it will take 24-48 hrs before the device is removed from blacklist. So fingers crossed.
I will give it benefit of doubt and wait for 48 hours before calling AT&T again to verify that its been removed from blacklist. If not, I will contact the police again.
One thing I did not like about this case is the suspect said it was an "error" and officer did not do anything against him. He was indeed committing a fraud. Shouldn't he be charged for his actions? I would be satisfied if he was punished in some way for wasting my time and making me go without a phone for a month.
AlwaysNoob said:
So I just received a call from the detective who was investigating the case. She got the information from AT&T. She went to the suspect's house and she interviewed him. Suspect said that this was an "error" and he didn't know about it. The detective made him call AT&T while she was at his house and he removed it from blacklist. Detective told me that she spoke to AT&T too who confirmed that its been removed from blacklist. Detective was told by AT&T that if you power off and power on the device, its good to go now.
But, I called AT&T myself to confirm that this IMEI is removed from blacklist and they denied it. Its still showing as blacklist on AT&T side. The rep told me that if the request was made to remove from blacklist, it will take 24-48 hrs before the device is removed from blacklist. So fingers crossed.
I will give it benefit of doubt and wait for 48 hours before calling AT&T again to verify that its been removed from blacklist. If not, I will contact the police again.
One thing I did not like about this case is the suspect said it was an "error" and officer did not do anything against him. He was indeed committing a fraud. Shouldn't he be charged for his actions? I would be satisfied if he was punished in some way for wasting my time and making me go without a phone for a month.
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In order for that to happen you need to go to small claims court by filling a civil suit. Good luck
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hotbyz168 said:
In order for that to happen you need to go to small claims court by filling a civil suit. Good luck
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If I go to small claims court, what can I claim for? For the hassle I had to go through? For my time? Can I charge him for $ amount for this?