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Hi everyone, first post, go easy on me
Anyway, I picked one of these up at the weekend and I'm very happy with it, but I'd like to try the new roms that are starting to appear. Unfortunately, I'm not able to unlock my bootloader (Bootloader unlock allowed: No). This is on Three UK.
Is there ever likely to be a workaround for this?
I'm gutted
I have the same thing on mine (T-mobile Croatia), I reckon it's a network carrier lock.
But if I have faith in something, then it's in XDA, the place where people turn "you can't do that" into "you can, it's just that no one found a way for it YET"
Let us be patient and see what will happen.
mine is the same
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Same here on O2 UK. I've just arranged sending the XZ back to O2, with this being one of the major factors that made me decide to wait for the S4. Shame.
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stryker.jp said:
mine is the same
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
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That means one thing no fun with xperia z on xda-developers at least for now :crying:
GOOD LUCK
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Orange Poland.
I can't root my device
That's why I got my phone from a third party (CPW/P4U/etc) they nearly always supply generic handsets that are unlocked and bloat free.
maddoguk said:
That's why I got my phone from a third party (CPW/P4U/etc) they nearly always supply generic handsets that are unlocked and bloat free.
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Yup. Always purchase unlocked devices. NEVER count on a manufacturer's locking mechanisms being broken, nor on the lock mechanism returning somehow. (Qualcomm's secure boot infrastructure is quite strong, so it's rare for it to be compromised unless the OEM handset manufacturer screws up. Since the T's locking was never defeated, I wouldn't hold much hope for the Z.)
Vote with your wallet - don't buy a device unless it's unlocked. If you buy a locked-down device and rely on "unsupported" locking mechanisms, you are implicitly saying that you are OK with locked-down devices.
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AW: Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Branded and/or sim locked Sonys are usually not unlockable. This is documented well enough.
As Entropy said, either buy generic devices from the open market which come slim and neat to begin with or go with an operator which doesn't sim lock or brand devices sold by it.
I can recommend mine, sells devices subsidized if you wish yet still unlockable and the only branding to be found are a different SI than "generic", so I only suffer from delayed updates and nothing else
Entropy512 said:
Yup. Always purchase unlocked devices. NEVER count on a manufacturer's locking mechanisms being broken, nor on the lock mechanism returning somehow. (Qualcomm's secure boot infrastructure is quite strong, so it's rare for it to be compromised unless the OEM handset manufacturer screws up. Since the T's locking was never defeated, I wouldn't hold much hope for the Z.)
Vote with your wallet - don't buy a device unless it's unlocked. If you buy a locked-down device and rely on "unsupported" locking mechanisms, you are implicitly saying that you are OK with locked-down devices.
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I bought a outright supposedly unlocked Xperia TX for a Sony Central store in Sydney then only to find out it was actually vodafone stock with a locked bootloader.
Hi, can some one help me out here.
I have a XZ which has unlockable bootloader. I have unlocked it and rooted and installed recovery kernal and Xperia Z Revolution rom. All ok.
Now, was just seeing if I ever needed to send phone off for repairs.
So downloaded the lastest flashtool and was successful enough to restore back to the 10.1.A.1.350 Original Sony Unbranded UK Rom.
With flashtool you can now lock the bootloader, so I went ahead and did this but now when checking the bootloader status, it says "Rooting Status: Unknown" and when entering my unlock code in CMD "Failed <remote: Command did not succeed>
How do I fix this so I can unlock the bootloader again?
I don't think your locked. You probably are still unlocked as we cannot relock bootloader yet
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xl VipeR lx said:
I don't think your locked. You probably are still unlocked as we cannot relock bootloader yet
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Androxyde says we can?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38912420&postcount=29
That's why I tried to lock bootloader after reading that.
morgan_82 said:
Androxyde says we can?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38912420&postcount=29
That's why I tried to lock bootloader after reading that.
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Aaah. I misread your post. Have u tried unlocking through flashtool
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xl VipeR lx said:
Aaah. I misread your post. Have u tried unlocking through flashtool
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Yeah, get the same error as in cmd.
Contact the dev. They might know more
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Yes I will do, just need to get my post count over 10 before I can post in the development threads.
Don't want to bother people with PM's either.
Let me know how it goes. I was thinking of unlocking and relocking. Out of curiosity. Is your bravia engine working now that you relocked
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Hi all.
First of all let me explain myself, I am a noob but not a total idiot so I am where I am through rational consideration.
I have renewed my contract on three UK, which has just expired. The number one consideration for me is that I have full, unlimited access to the internet with tethering and the only option for this in the UK is on three, on the contract I was already on. Three have an excellent 3g network and are in the process of giving DC-HSPA access and will get LTE-4g before the end of the year. I am guaranteed to automatically get the higher speeds when they are available, still with unlimited tethering at no extra cost. No other tariff can give me all that in the UK. There are sim-only options but they are all short term and do not guarantee me the unlimited tethering I require into the future, and there is a good chance the cost of these tariffs will increase when 4g is rolled out. In short the only option was to renew my contract.
So, I have renewed my contract and got the XZ. The XZ was the only option really after seeing all the developers struggle with Samsung phones and with all the developer friendly support promised by Sony. Whatever I did with my contract I wanted the XZ and I love it.
I knew when I signed the contract that I was taking a gamble on the locked bootloader, but the best option for me was to renew my contract and if the bootloader is locked sell the phone and use the money to partially fund the buying of a bootloader unlockable XZ. I knew that I would probably have to do this and was ready for it when I got the contract. Anyway the bootloader is unlock:no, so I will be carrying out my plan and this XZ will get sold to fund the purchase of an XZ with unlockable bootloader. I am OK with all that and if I sell the XZ for even half it's current value I won't care and will have still made the most financially sensible choice. I will have to buy a phone off contract, but I will still have the tariff I want. If the phone I have had come with an unlockable bootloader I would have been a couple of hundred quid better off, but I had to have a phone on the contract anyway so whatever phone I got would have had to go to get an unlocked XZ. Even if there was a tariff which gave the same allowances I would have had to pay for the handset anyway, and it would have ended up costing more than it is anyway. There is no such tariff anyway and I have made the sensible choice and am happy.
Now on to my question. Obviously I am working up to selling this phone, and figure it will be easier to sell sim-unlocked. Fortunately I live in the UK and network providers are obliged to allow you to unlock your sim. On three I have to wait thirty days and then they will unlock the sim for me. I have decided that the thirty days older the phone is will be offset by it being unlocked and being easier to sell. I am not in a rush to flash roms yet so I get the phone for a while and sell it for the least effort, hopefully when CM is pretty well ready for the phone.
Anyway, all is well and good and I am content.
However there is one possibility I have only recently considered. I am aware that sim-unlocking is a completely different thing than having bootloader unlockable:yes. But I was curious to know if a byproduct of getting the Sim officially unlocked by Three would be a change to the bootloader unlocking status. I don't know enough about how all this works, and as I say, I understand there is a difference between getting the sim-unlocked and the bootloader thing. But might the bootloader lock be somehow dependant on the sim-unlock status. ????
I only ask this out of curiosity.
I will find out for myself soon enough as I will be getting the sim unlocked ready to sell anyway. It will save me a bit of money and a bit of hassle if the bootloader becomes unlockable and I won't have to part with a phone I have become attached to and know is a good one, it doesn't have any of the issues some people seem to be having with their XZ's.
Either way in a couple of weeks I will have an XZ with an unlockable bootloader as CM has become a must for me.
I just recently bought a z1s coming from an s3. so far i love how smooth and fast the phone is. The camera quality is pretty bad however but thats beside the point. I need to unlock my phone does anyone know how i can do this? i heard the bootloader is locked or something, does that affect the phone being able to be unlocked? any help would be appreciated thank you
What I know your phone is Locked and it cannot be Unlocked, there is no workaround, thanks to TMO. You will still get Root anyway so is not so bad.
eclyptos said:
What I know your phone is Locked and it cannot be Unlocked, there is no workaround, thanks to TMO. You will still get Root anyway so is not so bad.
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but ive seen ebay sellers selling Z1s factory unlocked. So theres got to be a way, tommoro ill call tmobile and see whats up i just dont know what to say
It will unlock with an unlock code. You can get that from T-Mobile. If you bought the phone outright, you can get the code from them. If upgraded, then you can wait 90 days... Or, 40 days, I've heard both. I don't know if those third party websites can unlock it with the code. Yes, the bootloader is locked, but with the released kernel source, we will have root once someone can figure it out.
Coming from the S3 like you, I know of that hidden menu that allows you to SIM unlock Samsung phones, from my research I've done, I don't think Sony phones have that. It needs a direct code.
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My T-Mobile is unlockable
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Lets clarified, your phone can be SIM unlocked, No Booloader Unlocked, this are 2 different things.
Don_Perrignon said:
It will unlock with an unlock code. You can get that from T-Mobile. If you bought the phone outright, you can get the code from them. If upgraded, then you can wait 90 days... Or, 40 days, I've heard both. I don't know if those third party websites can unlock it with the code. Yes, the bootloader is locked, but with the released kernel source, we will have root once someone can figure it out.
Coming from the S3 like you, I know of that hidden menu that allows you to SIM unlock Samsung phones, from my research I've done, I don't think Sony phones have that. It needs a direct code.
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i just looked at the tmo sim unlock requirements. I need to pay the phone off fully and have had it for 40 days before requesting an unlock code.
this site however says i can purchase an unlock code for the Z1s, has anyone used it before? Im scared of giving away my IMEI but idk if theres any risks involved with that
https://www.unlocklocks.com/
Sonic Marvel said:
i just looked at the tmo sim unlock requirements. I need to pay the phone off fully and have had it for 40 days before requesting an unlock code.
this site however says i can purchase an unlock code for the Z1s, has anyone used it before? Im scared of giving away my IMEI but idk if theres any risks involved with that
https://www.unlocklocks.com/
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I'd like to know this.
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eclyptos said:
Lets clarified, your phone can be SIM unlocked, No Booloader Unlocked, this are 2 different things.
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i do know the difference and sadly, it still says: "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes"
follows the line, my sxs (t-mobile) was unlockable also
Sonic Marvel said:
i just looked at the tmo sim unlock requirements. I need to pay the phone off fully and have had it for 40 days before requesting an unlock code.
this site however says i can purchase an unlock code for the Z1s, has anyone used it before? Im scared of giving away my IMEI but idk if theres any risks involved with that
https://www.unlocklocks.com/
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I bought the unlock code for my Z1s online, different seller but worked none the less. Took about 4 days turnaround on the code, Sony unlock codes seem to take longer to generate than other manufacturers. Many of us have been buying unlock codes online for some years now, I've never heard of any IMEI related issues.
tbh i think im just gonna return this and get the LG G2. do you guys know how i could avoid paying the restock fee?
Sonic Marvel said:
tbh i think im just gonna return this and get the LG G2. do you guys know how i could avoid paying the restock fee?
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I work for TMo and can tell you that the official policy is that the restocking fee is only waived for defective devices, and then only if it's being exchanged for the same model. That being said, it's often left to the rep's/manager's discretion and some may waive it for you. I often waive it for people just to be nice, but it really just depends on who you go to and how strictly they are adhering to T-Mobile policy.
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I work for TMo and can tell you that the official policy is that the restocking fee is only waived for defective devices, and then only if it's being exchanged for the same model. That being said, it's often left to the rep's/manager's discretion and some may waive it for you. I often waive it for people just to be nice, but it really just depends on who you go to and how strictly they are adhering to T-Mobile policy.
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i ended up being charged the waving fee, oh well. Im in LOVE with the G2. I had the G2x back when it was out and im blown away at how far LG has come.
Ok, so I bought my M8 full price from Amazon, so I guess that already means I don't qualify for any warranty options from Sprint right? Or do I?
And also, regardless of where I bought it, I still qualify for 6 months of screen repair from HTC Advantage, right?
Would I lose everything if I use the HTC Dev unlock method? Even the screen replacement? What about root/s-off methods that do not rely on HTC Dev?
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Ok, so I bought my M8 full price from Amazon, so I guess that already means I don't qualify for any warranty options from Sprint right? Or do I?
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If you have insurance they will handle warranty issues for you, not sure what they will do if you don't.
Cyber Akuma said:
And also, regardless of where I bought it, I still qualify for 6 months of screen repair from HTC Advantage, right?
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Yes.
Cyber Akuma said:
Would I lose everything if I use the HTC Dev unlock method? Even the screen replacement? What about root/s-off methods that do not rely on HTC Dev?
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If they follow the law you will not lose warranty just for unlocking. Per the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act HTC would have to show that actions you took after unlocking your bootloader caused you to damage the specific item claimed under the warranty. That doesn't mean they will follow that though, plenty of reports of people calling up HTC for warranty service and being told it's not covered because they unlocked. There are also plenty of people who have had no issues getting a device fixed after unlocking. So, it's a crapshoot.
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If you have insurance they will handle warranty issues for you, not sure what they will do if you don't.
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I don't have any insurance through Amazon or Sprint, so does that mean HTC Advantage is the only warranty I have?
So then would it still be best to use an unofficial unlock method so I don't basically submit a message saying "Hey, this phone has been unlocked" through htcdev if they still might complain about replacing the screen if I ever break it?
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I don't have any insurance through Amazon or Sprint, so does that mean HTC Advantage is the only warranty I have?
So then would it still be best to use an unofficial unlock method so I don't basically submit a message saying "Hey, this phone has been unlocked" through htcdev if they still might complain about replacing the screen if I ever break it?
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I don't see that being an issue. Unlocking your bootloader would have nothing to do with a broken screen.
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Cyber Akuma said:
I don't have any insurance through Amazon or Sprint, so does that mean HTC Advantage is the only warranty I have?
So then would it still be best to use an unofficial unlock method so I don't basically submit a message saying "Hey, this phone has been unlocked" through htcdev if they still might complain about replacing the screen if I ever break it?
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Either way you technically have a warranty even without Sprint insurance, they just won't repair your device for free. I believe the fee is $75 to repair it, assuming they actually can repair it, and with this phone there probably won't be much they can fix. If they can't repair it in store if you have insurance they will replace it for free, if you don't have insurance you will have to contact HTC.
I would recommend an unofficial unlock method if one exists, chances are you will either be able to re-lock it or the phone will be so messed up they will have no way of knowing you unlocked it. I wouldn't worry so much about the screen, surely they will not claim you cracked your screen because of an unlocked bootloader. I think anyway you look at it you should be covered by HTC Advantage for 6 months.
I've read that apparently an unlocked boot loader doesn't void warranty for Nexus devices. Is this true?
It doesn't appear there is any flag that gets tripped when you unlock/Lock the bootloader.
jhk0215 said:
I've read that apparently an unlocked boot loader doesn't void warranty for Nexus devices. Is this true?
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it all depends where you bought it. through google it doesnt. through other places it very well might.
I've had 2 RMA's through Moto which is where I bought mine. Both were BL unlocked, rooted with TWRP. I just reflashed the stock image and locked it before sending it back. They never seemed to care or notice if there was indeed any flag.
I bought mine through Motorola and there's no voided warranties here! Not sure about VZW or At&t or even if the branded N6 bootloaders can even be unlocked on those carriers.
Should I relock or would they not care?
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Should I relock or would they not care?
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I would only relock it if you need to send it in.
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All N6's are the same model regardless of carrier. The only difference is the tramp stamp that Verizon puts on the back of the phone.
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All N6's are the same model regardless of carrier. The only difference is the tramp stamp that Verizon puts on the back of the phone.
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Same phone, different warranty terms sometimes.
toknitup420 said:
All N6's are the same model regardless of carrier. The only difference is the tramp stamp that Verizon puts on the back of the phone.
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People are complaining about the logos but its not a big deal they can be removed or even covered with a skin/case. If that is what you seriously more worried about its sad. Its a great phone
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People are complaining about the logos but its not a big deal they can be removed or even covered with a skin/case. If that is what you seriously more worried about its sad. Its a great phone
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I'm not worried about it, so no need for condescending remarks. I was merely stating that the logo is the only difference.
toknitup420 said:
I'm not worried about it, so no need for condescending remarks. I was merely stating that the logo is the only difference.
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the way u stated your comment u were worried about it also verizon is not the only carrier that did this. So did ATT, and ATT users also have sim lock and boot animation
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the way u stated your comment u were worried about it also verizon is not the only carrier that did this. So did ATT, and ATT users also have sim lock and boot animation
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I only called it a tramp stamp cuz of its location. Lol. I've heard they can be taken off with rubbing alcohol. I'm not gunna try it but I'm sure someone will. Either way though let's get back on topic. [emoji16] [emoji16]
So some people are telling me that it voids the warranty and some are saying that it doesn't, so I'm not sure 100 percent
I bought it through Google Play
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So some people are telling me that it voids the warranty and some are saying that it doesn't, so I'm not sure 100 percent
I bought it through Google Play
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Play 100% warranty NOT voided.
rootSU said:
Play 100% warranty NOT voided.
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Thanks, I had some doubts because some asshole on reddit was lying to me. I ended up live chatting with Google Play and they said unlocked bootloader doesn't void warranty
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Thanks, I had some doubts because some asshole on reddit was lying to me. I ended up live chatting with Google Play and they said unlocked bootloader doesn't void warranty
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Try not too listen much to what anyone on Reddit says about anything.
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Thanks, I had some doubts because some asshole on reddit was lying to me. I ended up live chatting with Google Play and they said unlocked bootloader doesn't void warranty
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it wont void warrenty either way as long as u flash stock and lock back up. Its a nexus
Last time I owned a Samsung, I had vzw as my carrier. I swore to never own a Samsung again.
However after reading these posts, am I right to assume that tmobile doesn't lock the bootloader or that it's easier to unlock? I've seen several posts on root too?
Sorry for the questions, I just know all the horror stories about the S5 and vzw.
I've had T-Mobile for the longest time. At this time they have yet to lock our bootloaders. As for the unlocking of the phone, we have been having issues even with people buying the phone outright. T-Mobile wants you to be a customer for at least 40 days before unlocking the device, if I'm not mistaken. As for turning in a rooted phone or a device with custom software on it. They don't care as long as the device is not physically damaged. When I upgraded from my s4 to my s5 I had cm installed. I booted up the phone right in front of the rep and he said "whoa that's cool" after he saw the custom boot animation and took my phone and gave me my s5. If you have insurance on your phone you can send in the bricked phone and get one in return. Of course after paying the nearly 200 dollar deductible. I've never had to return a phone for being defective. But from what I have read about other people's experiences. Is that T-Mobile reps don't even check or care to check to see if Knox has been tripped. Hopefully this answers some of your questions.
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I've had T-Mobile for the longest time. At this time they have yet to lock our bootloaders. As for the unlocking of the phone, we have been having issues even with people buying the phone outright. T-Mobile wants you to be a customer for at least 40 days before unlocking the device, if I'm not mistaken. As for turning in a rooted phone or a device with custom software on it. They don't care as long as the device is not physically damaged. When I upgraded from my s4 to my s5 I had cm installed. I booted up the phone right in front of the rep and he said "whoa that's cool" after he saw the custom boot animation and took my phone and gave me my s5. If you have insurance on your phone you can send in the bricked phone and get one in return. Of course after paying the nearly 200 dollar deductible. I've never had to return a phone for being defective. But from what I have read about other people's experiences. Is that T-Mobile reps don't even check or care to check to see if Knox has been tripped. Hopefully this answers some of your questions.
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Thanks for the response. So as of right now, the bootloader is still locked and since it's a Samsung, chances are, it will stay that way. But there is root already available for the S6?
My last few Tmobile phones have been the Nexus 5, M9, and LG G3, so all of them I have been able to unlock the bootloader. But I am seriously considering the S6 as my next phone.
Thanks
Easiest way to root the S6 is using Ping Pong root. This apk does not trip the Knox counter. Thus not voiding tour warranty, however if you install a custom recovery this will trip the Knox counter. Search for Ping Ping root in the S6 forums.
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Easiest way to root the S6 is using Ping Pong root. This apk does not trip the Knox counter. Thus not voiding tour warranty, however if you install a custom recovery this will trip the Knox counter. Search for Ping Ping root in the S6 forums.
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This is great info... Thanks !!!
Your very welcome.
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