I've read that apparently an unlocked boot loader doesn't void warranty for Nexus devices. Is this true?
It doesn't appear there is any flag that gets tripped when you unlock/Lock the bootloader.
jhk0215 said:
I've read that apparently an unlocked boot loader doesn't void warranty for Nexus devices. Is this true?
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it all depends where you bought it. through google it doesnt. through other places it very well might.
I've had 2 RMA's through Moto which is where I bought mine. Both were BL unlocked, rooted with TWRP. I just reflashed the stock image and locked it before sending it back. They never seemed to care or notice if there was indeed any flag.
I bought mine through Motorola and there's no voided warranties here! Not sure about VZW or At&t or even if the branded N6 bootloaders can even be unlocked on those carriers.
Should I relock or would they not care?
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Should I relock or would they not care?
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I would only relock it if you need to send it in.
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All N6's are the same model regardless of carrier. The only difference is the tramp stamp that Verizon puts on the back of the phone.
toknitup420 said:
All N6's are the same model regardless of carrier. The only difference is the tramp stamp that Verizon puts on the back of the phone.
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Same phone, different warranty terms sometimes.
toknitup420 said:
All N6's are the same model regardless of carrier. The only difference is the tramp stamp that Verizon puts on the back of the phone.
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People are complaining about the logos but its not a big deal they can be removed or even covered with a skin/case. If that is what you seriously more worried about its sad. Its a great phone
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People are complaining about the logos but its not a big deal they can be removed or even covered with a skin/case. If that is what you seriously more worried about its sad. Its a great phone
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I'm not worried about it, so no need for condescending remarks. I was merely stating that the logo is the only difference.
toknitup420 said:
I'm not worried about it, so no need for condescending remarks. I was merely stating that the logo is the only difference.
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the way u stated your comment u were worried about it also verizon is not the only carrier that did this. So did ATT, and ATT users also have sim lock and boot animation
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the way u stated your comment u were worried about it also verizon is not the only carrier that did this. So did ATT, and ATT users also have sim lock and boot animation
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I only called it a tramp stamp cuz of its location. Lol. I've heard they can be taken off with rubbing alcohol. I'm not gunna try it but I'm sure someone will. Either way though let's get back on topic. [emoji16] [emoji16]
So some people are telling me that it voids the warranty and some are saying that it doesn't, so I'm not sure 100 percent
I bought it through Google Play
jhk0215 said:
So some people are telling me that it voids the warranty and some are saying that it doesn't, so I'm not sure 100 percent
I bought it through Google Play
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Play 100% warranty NOT voided.
rootSU said:
Play 100% warranty NOT voided.
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Thanks, I had some doubts because some asshole on reddit was lying to me. I ended up live chatting with Google Play and they said unlocked bootloader doesn't void warranty
jhk0215 said:
Thanks, I had some doubts because some asshole on reddit was lying to me. I ended up live chatting with Google Play and they said unlocked bootloader doesn't void warranty
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Try not too listen much to what anyone on Reddit says about anything.
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Thanks, I had some doubts because some asshole on reddit was lying to me. I ended up live chatting with Google Play and they said unlocked bootloader doesn't void warranty
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it wont void warrenty either way as long as u flash stock and lock back up. Its a nexus
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Ok, so I bought my M8 full price from Amazon, so I guess that already means I don't qualify for any warranty options from Sprint right? Or do I?
And also, regardless of where I bought it, I still qualify for 6 months of screen repair from HTC Advantage, right?
Would I lose everything if I use the HTC Dev unlock method? Even the screen replacement? What about root/s-off methods that do not rely on HTC Dev?
Cyber Akuma said:
Ok, so I bought my M8 full price from Amazon, so I guess that already means I don't qualify for any warranty options from Sprint right? Or do I?
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If you have insurance they will handle warranty issues for you, not sure what they will do if you don't.
Cyber Akuma said:
And also, regardless of where I bought it, I still qualify for 6 months of screen repair from HTC Advantage, right?
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Yes.
Cyber Akuma said:
Would I lose everything if I use the HTC Dev unlock method? Even the screen replacement? What about root/s-off methods that do not rely on HTC Dev?
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If they follow the law you will not lose warranty just for unlocking. Per the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act HTC would have to show that actions you took after unlocking your bootloader caused you to damage the specific item claimed under the warranty. That doesn't mean they will follow that though, plenty of reports of people calling up HTC for warranty service and being told it's not covered because they unlocked. There are also plenty of people who have had no issues getting a device fixed after unlocking. So, it's a crapshoot.
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If you have insurance they will handle warranty issues for you, not sure what they will do if you don't.
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I don't have any insurance through Amazon or Sprint, so does that mean HTC Advantage is the only warranty I have?
So then would it still be best to use an unofficial unlock method so I don't basically submit a message saying "Hey, this phone has been unlocked" through htcdev if they still might complain about replacing the screen if I ever break it?
Cyber Akuma said:
I don't have any insurance through Amazon or Sprint, so does that mean HTC Advantage is the only warranty I have?
So then would it still be best to use an unofficial unlock method so I don't basically submit a message saying "Hey, this phone has been unlocked" through htcdev if they still might complain about replacing the screen if I ever break it?
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I don't see that being an issue. Unlocking your bootloader would have nothing to do with a broken screen.
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Cyber Akuma said:
I don't have any insurance through Amazon or Sprint, so does that mean HTC Advantage is the only warranty I have?
So then would it still be best to use an unofficial unlock method so I don't basically submit a message saying "Hey, this phone has been unlocked" through htcdev if they still might complain about replacing the screen if I ever break it?
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Either way you technically have a warranty even without Sprint insurance, they just won't repair your device for free. I believe the fee is $75 to repair it, assuming they actually can repair it, and with this phone there probably won't be much they can fix. If they can't repair it in store if you have insurance they will replace it for free, if you don't have insurance you will have to contact HTC.
I would recommend an unofficial unlock method if one exists, chances are you will either be able to re-lock it or the phone will be so messed up they will have no way of knowing you unlocked it. I wouldn't worry so much about the screen, surely they will not claim you cracked your screen because of an unlocked bootloader. I think anyway you look at it you should be covered by HTC Advantage for 6 months.
What do they mean......
I need to send my N6 back due to the back cover detaching and a battery bloating issue............
I have flashed stock and relocked the bootloader...........
are there any tamper flags?
will I have any problems with warranty....?
You'll have to put this in context if you want a helpful answer. All I can say is that if you bought it from Play, it doesn't matter if you have unlocked the bootloader. Carrier / Moto, its hard for me to say.
I bought it from carphone warehouse with no carrier......
Can it be argued that I needed to unlock it to manually update it....?
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I bought it from carphone warehouse with no carrier......
Can it be argued that I needed to unlock it to manually update it....?
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It could be.
will just need to wait and see then..............
any other comments/experience welcome....
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will just need to wait and see then..............
any other comments/experience welcome....
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I concur with @rootSU
from carphone warehouse.. youll have to bring it to stock and lock the bootloader. they wont check for tamper flags.
simms22 said:
from carphone warehouse.. youll have to bring it to stock and lock the bootloader. they wont check for tamper flags.
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@simms22 - with the 5, if you bought from play, you could get warranty whatever. But from anywhere else, it had to go back to LG who did care. Are Moto the same as LG do you know?
I purposely bought play this time to avoid all that bother.
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@simms22 - with the 5, if you bought from play, you could get warranty whatever. But from anywhere else, it had to go back to LG who did care. Are Moto the same as LG do you know?
I purposely bought play this time to avoid all that bother.
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with the n6, if you by it from play, theyll replace it if you break the screen yourself, but only once(like the n5 as well). from anywhere else, its whatever their policies are. from motorola would be the second most easy place for an rma. any other place, they might give you a hassle(might not as well).
The broken screen thing is US only unfortunately. But I'm just talking about bootloader really. On the 5, LG rejected warranty if unlocked.
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The broken screen thing is US only unfortunately. But I'm just talking about bootloader really. On the 5, LG rejected warranty if unlocked.
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for all, but the play store, it needs to be locked.
The carphone warehouse don't repair, they want you to send it to Motorola for repair............
will they check for tampering........?
what does status code: 2 mean?
Just spoke via the online chat facility at Motorola to one guy in what I believe to be America and another guy in the UK and the American [non UK] chat support said installing the 5.0.1 update manually wont affect warranty and then the UK guy said it will..................
really confused and worried...............
how will the Motorola repair technicians know the bootloader has been unlocked previously........?
Hey did a search and didn't find an answer, or at least didn't see it.
So if you get your N6 from a carrier (except VZW cause they don't offer) and unlock the bootloader does that void insurance or warranty?
rekids said:
Hey did a search and didn't find an answer, or at least didn't see it.
So if you get your N6 from a carrier (except VZW cause they don't offer) and unlock the bootloader does that void insurance or warranty?
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depends on your carriers rules. most likely it does void your warranty.
Not really sure it applies to insurance I jumped into the pool with my last phone while drunk . The phone still booted was unlocked and on Verizon ...they still sent me a new one .
I am also running my N6 on Verizon currently. It stayed locked for like 12 hours until I remembered all the reasons I run a rooted phone; ad blocker, back up, customization.
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Thanks all
rekids said:
Hey did a search and didn't find an answer, or at least didn't see it.
So if you get your N6 from a carrier (except VZW cause they don't offer) and unlock the bootloader does that void insurance or warranty?
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You should be fine man iv sent back bricked devices and unlocked devices for warranty, if you are with a major carrier in the US they will take care of you plus you can re lock the bootloader this is a nexus device you will be fine
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When I searched for this I saw many posts from last year, and so I'm not sure if anything has changed. This is likely a stupid question, but I can't seem to find a straight answer.
I have an HTC One M7, and the screen is literally falling out of it. I want to pull the trigger on a nexus 6, and looking on Ebay I see that the AT&T version is the cheapest. I've read that these are locked, but that (at least a year ago) AT&T were letting people unlock them. Is this true? Should I buy one of these phones can I go to an AT&T store and get it unlocked to use a different carrier? I'm on Verizon and since the status of my unlimited data is always in limbo, the less I have to talk to them the better. I'm aware there is a site that will unlock phones, but if I can do it for free, that seems preferable.
Also, aside from doing it myself is there any place I can get my sim card cut? Someone said that bestbuy used to do it, but the nearest one is a long drive for me, and I'd hate to make the trip for nothing.
in order to unlock an att n6 thats sim locked, the phone has to be 100% paid off(to att). if the person is selling it, it might be, or might not. thats the very first thing that i would ask the seller. if it isnt, id avoid buying it, as it could be stolen. if it was stolen, att will never unlock it for you.
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Snip.
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Interesting, a lot of the sellers are re-sellers of used phones, how could you actually check to see if it's paid off or not?
squat251 said:
Interesting, a lot of the sellers are re-sellers of used phones, how could you actually check to see if it's paid off or not?
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there are a few places online that you enter the imei number and itll say if its been reported stolen or not, or if its been placed on the list. if it has been placed on the list, then every US carrier will not let you use the phone on their networks. but the only way to tell 100% is ro buy it and try it(but i dont recommend this way).
Well, the seller (of the phone I'm looking at) claims it's a clean IMEI, literally in the title, but that doesn't alleviate the problem of finding out if it's been fully paid off, right?
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Well, the seller (of the phone I'm looking at) claims it's a clean IMEI, literally in the title, but that doesn't alleviate the problem of finding out if it's been fully paid off, right?
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nope. ask them, the most direct way to get an answer. and ask them if they got it unlocked, if it is paid for.
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nope. ask them, the most direct way to get an answer. and ask them if they got it unlocked, if it is paid for.
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Well, the answer they gave me is that AT&T phones cannot be unlocked. So either they never tried, or they just don't know it's possible.
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Well, the answer they gave me is that AT&T phones cannot be unlocked. So either they never tried, or they just don't know it's possible.
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lol, ive never heard that one before, of all the ridiculous things that ive heard said before. funny that att would put up a "fake" website for requesting unlock codes then https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
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General Requirements for All Unlock Requests
The device must be designed for use on, and locked to, the AT&T wireless network. (For help see Device Unlock Support )
It must not be reported lost or stolen.
It’s not associated with fraudulent activity.
All the device’s service commitments and installment plans are completed, and all early termination fees are paid in full.
The device is not currently active on a different AT&T customer’s account.
If you performed an early upgrade, you must wait the 14-day buyer’s remorse period before you can request to unlock your previous device.
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lol, ive never heard that one before, of all the ridiculous things that ive heard said before. funny that att would put up a "fake" website for requesting unlock codes then https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
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THe at&t only phones can't be unlocked, please keep an eye i may update the listing with unlocked devices, waiting to see if they can be unlocked or not.
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His response after telling him I needed to know if it had been paid off (and why).
Perhaps that means he's tried and they cannot be unlocked, I'm not sure he wasn't all that clear.
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His response after telling him I needed to know if it had been paid off (and why).
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well, if he gets it unlocked, then id say go for it
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well, if he gets it unlocked, then id say go for it
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I'd say if he manages to unlock it, he's going to price it the same as everyone else with unlocked phones the goal was to avoid that lol.
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I'd say if he manages to unlock it, he's going to price it the same as everyone else with unlocked phones the goal was to avoid that lol.
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oh, hope not! btw, what was he offering before?
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oh, hope not! btw, what was he offering before?
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265 for an A+ condition used phone. unlocked phones are going in the 300+ range, I can get one brand new for 300 and change from http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-nexus-6-smartphone-xt1103-unlocked-32gb-cloud-white-284542/
I recommend you avoid buying from Expansys, check around at least first.
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Now I take everything samsung says with a grain of salt and some hot sauce but the lady I just talked to (I recorded it) said that the snapdragon verizon s9+ had a unlockable bootloader (but she highly recommended against it). Has anyone else called samsung and asked them?
pretty sure all US variants will get a s9 with a locked down, just like the S8 and S7.
Reminds me of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/galaxy-s8-unlocked-s-bootloader-t3563973
Yup there was a similar thread for te Note 8 also. Probably just another case of confusion of sim unlock vs unlock bootloader. Most consumers don't even know what a bootloader is. It's not likely that Samsung will train low level reps about bootloaders, there's no reason to. When a rep hears unlocked they probably refer to sim lock. Many low level reps probably don't know what bootloaders are either.
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Now I take everything samsung says with a grain of salt and some hot sauce but the lady I just talked to (I recorded it) said that the snapdragon verizon s9+ had a unlockable bootloader (but she highly recommended against it). Has anyone else called samsung and asked them?
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You must be new here, welcome to xda...
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You must be new here, welcome to xda...
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I use to be a RC... that is until samsung started locking thier stuff down. I'm hoping that what the lady said was right.. if not then I might go with the zx2, only issue is it doesnt have 4k @60fps. Irritates me they turned off 4k hdr on the s9
Why would she "highly recommend against it" if she was just talking about a sim unlock though. Not saying I think it's unlockable or believe what she says.
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Look, can we just take a second to remember that the Samsung reps have NO F-ING CLUE what they're talking about? When I had issues with my Note 5, they recommended I take off the back and pull the battery to get it to reboot.
So... Yeah. Don't get your hopes up here.
Yes more than likely the woman confused bootloader with sim unlock
There is no way sammy is going to unlock the bl on the snap...
I miss how they at least used to make developer editions at least for verizon and several others
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I use to be a RC... that is until samsung started locking thier stuff down. I'm hoping that what the lady said was right.. if not then I might go with the zx2, only issue is it doesnt have 4k @60fps. Irritates me they turned off 4k hdr on the s9
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The odds that this lady knows what a bootloader is is slim to none, when you said unlocked bootloader she probably thought of the phone being carrier unlocked. We've been through this a few times and its always locked on snapdragon phones.
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Yes more than likely the woman confused bootloader with sim unlock
There is no way sammy is going to unlock the bl on the snap...
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That's what I thought but when she said "this will void your warranty if you unlock the bootloader", that's what makes me wonder.
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That's what I thought but when she said "this will void your warranty if you unlock the bootloader", that's what makes me wonder.
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Just stop wondering, it'll be easier, assume its locked.
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Yes more than likely the woman confused bootloader with sim unlock
There is no way sammy is going to unlock the bl on the snap...
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Just stop wondering, it'll be easier, assume its locked.
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Makes me wonder what the point of buying another Samsung is then
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Makes me wonder what the point of buying another Samsung is then
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Exynos is the answer
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Exynos is the answer
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Question is where do I get it and will it work in the US on verizon.
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Question is where do I get it and will it work in the US on verizon.
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You can order one and get it shipped to the US but you will not get it to work on Verizon.
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You can order one and get it shipped to the US but you will not get it to work on Verizon.
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why wouldn't it work on version? From what I read the exynos version is capable of the same radio band Verizon uses.
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why wouldn't it work on version? From what I read the exynos version is capable of the same radio band Verizon uses.
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It has no CDMA bands so it will not work on Verizon.
http://www.phonemore.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965f/specs/3887
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It has no CDMA bands so it will not work on Verizon.
http://www.phonemore.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965f/specs/3887
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are you sure?
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/rumor-galaxy-s9-feature-exynos-9810-cdma-support.html
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12460/samsung-announces-the-galaxy-s9
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are you sure?
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/rumor-galaxy-s9-feature-exynos-9810-cdma-support.html
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12460/samsung-announces-the-galaxy-s9
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The first link is from June of last year so it does not matter. The quote you miss from Anandtech.
"Indeed the Exynos 9810’s new modem supports CDMA. Samsung’s licensing dispute with Qualcomm and their recent reconciliation points out to issues beyond “simple” technical matters."
Even if it has the radios it cannot use them in the US without paying Qualcomm. Hence the reason they only sell the Snapdragon model in the US.