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I should be receiving my Diamond on Saturday and I was wondering where to store vital backup in the absence of a Micro-SD slot. Frequent ROM testing and flashing has made me keep a backup of important files and customisation bits on my SD card (Touch, Touch Dual, Touch Cruise) so I'm wondering how to get around this with the Diamond without a Micro SD card.
Any thoughts?
You can treat the 4GB internal storage as an (micro)SD card. The phone also will do that.
This storage will not get wiped when you perform a flash/hard reset/empty battery.
make a copy of the backup file to the pc could be a safe percussion
Yep. I'd recommend the internal storage, although if you think there's a risk that you might completely break the phone, backup to your PC.
Shouldn't really be anything that would break the phone (at least I hope not!!). My main backup items are things like UI customisations, OneNote notes, sound files, etc that do not change very frequently and I back them up from time to time on the PC anyway. I was curious but feel much better knowing I can treat [part of] the internal memory as a separate partition so to speak. Thanks for the input.
Got the Diamond this morning and I am very glad you all turned out to be right
Hi guys,
Somehow I have lost all my files from Internal Storage. It's weird - they disappeared after unplugging the USB cable from my laptop the last time my phone was connected. Now only the default folders are there.
I want to use data recovery software to retrieve as many photos as I can salvage, but ofcourse the phone doesn't mount as a drive on a computer so I cannot do that. There are some other methods online like this one but they require root. As you all know, root isn't easy on the Z3 compact, and the only working method which doesn't require you to unlock your bootloader needs you to flash the firmware again so then I will lose all chance of recovering any data.
Right now I have stopped using this phone and have only received 5-6 emails and messages after losing all my data so hopefully its not overwritten yet.
Any suggestions are welcome. Thank you!
Impossible without root.
Found a way. Used WebDAV to make it a network location, mapped it as a drive on my pc, used regular data recovery software...
No way, did it actually work?
GlebunV2 said:
No way, did it actually work?
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Nope
Turns out only my SD card was being scanned by the software and internal memory ignored...I found one software in the end that could scan the internal memory mapped as a network drive, however the reported success rate was lower than recovering data from a local drive and I had to buy it for some $500 so I just gave up in the end...I think it was called Active something...
Hi there!
I am a new member, recently bought P9 (L09) coming from Note 2.
I can't find a way of transfering files to PC without Hisuite.
I just came back from the holidays and took about 500 pics.
When I connect a phone via USB I can see only about 10 last pictures in DCIM folder on SD card.
I've searched the web high and low, but couldn't find out the conclusive answer.
Please help me!
Thanks
Probably the photos are inside the phone internal storage, not on the SD card.
The camera mode has an explicit option (you can check by swiping right) named "Priority save on SD card", maybe it changes or it changed by itself.
Anyway when you connect the USB you should see the SD card storage but also the "Internal storage" that contains another DCIM folder, which probably contains the other 490 photos.
Hi ScareIT,
thanks, but photos are on the SD card (size is 2Gb).
I can see them on the phone in Files app.
Obviously, Huawei wants me to use their Hisuite.
It's something to do maybe with correct driver? I know there are different file transfer formats(MTP,PTP). And I have even enabled USB debugging, but to no availability.
I haven't had any problems with Note 2 before.
How do you guys transfer files or pictures between PC and a phone?
I have the same problem, connecting with MTP protocol via HiSuite, creation of folders is extremely slow, and I found it impossible to move files from the phone (be it on internal storage or external SD) to the phone in a different folder.
I'd like to use USB mass storage option, but it's nowhere to be found in settings, only PTP, MTP and several other useless options... On top of that, i've lost a file (voice recording) trying to move it from one folder to another... should have saved it on PC first. But with mass storage i'm pretty sure i could recover it.
If anyone can help, would be really great.
Chiffin said:
I have the same problem, connecting with MTP protocol via HiSuite, creation of folders is extremely slow, and I found it impossible to move files from the phone (be it on internal storage or external SD) to the phone in a different folder.
I'd like to use USB mass storage option, but it's nowhere to be found in settings, only PTP, MTP and several other useless options... On top of that, i've lost a file (voice recording) trying to move it from one folder to another... should have saved it on PC first. But with mass storage i'm pretty sure i could recover it.
If anyone can help, would be really great.
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There's a program on PlayStore called "wifi file transfer pro" It's the easiest way to transfer files between any mobile/computers, anything that has wireless connection. Give the free version a try first.
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There's a program on PlayStore called "wifi file transfer pro" It's the easiest way to transfer files between any mobile/computers, anything that has wireless connection. Give the free version a try first.
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Thanks man, next time i'll try that.
Chiffin said:
I have the same problem, connecting with MTP protocol via HiSuite, creation of folders is extremely slow, and I found it impossible to move files from the phone (be it on internal storage or external SD) to the phone in a different folder.
I'd like to use USB mass storage option, but it's nowhere to be found in settings, only PTP, MTP and several other useless options... On top of that, i've lost a file (voice recording) trying to move it from one folder to another... should have saved it on PC first. But with mass storage i'm pretty sure i could recover it.
If anyone can help, would be really great.
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You can ignore hisuite by selecting "files"in the notification shade. It will be MTP like any other Android phone.
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Hi guys, thanks for the replies!
I know its possible to transfer files with a third party app over wifi, but that's not what I am looking for.
And Marsou77: It's not working for me: when I choose Files in Notification menu- I can view Internal and SD card, but all I can see is only 24 pictures out of 500 in SD card.
And another thing I just tested: I've took a new picture and I can see it on SD card fine now. So I am not sure where all other pictures are?! Maybe some sort of corruption of SD card? But I had transfered all pictures with Hisuite fine. Anyone?
I'm having the same problem. I've already connected my P9 to my PC and transferred a whole load of images about a month or so ago, but now I'm about to run out of storage on my phone and I can only see about 10 images in my DCIM/Camera folder where I know I have about 1000. I'm also missing a whole load of files in my download folder including a big video file that I want to transfer to free up space.
A load of other folders have missing files on my PC but I can see them on my phone and I can double check their location in file details. It seems that I'm only able to view about 20% of the files that are on my device.
If you have password or fingerprint active, you have to keep the phone unlocked for the transfer to work. Just keep the screen on. I had the same problem and now it works.
Just to confirm: I have no passwords or fingerprint scanner set on...
Same here - only some files are visible. Unlocking the phone is not solving this issue.
Ok so this is odd: I've connected my phone to my work computer and I can now see 450 of my 1000+ photos that I've taken on my phone. I moved about 30 images from the phone, deleting them from the internal storage but when I check my phone the images are still there! What's going on? I feel that I'm missing something important here, but I see no other options on the phone regarding USB connection settings.
I don't know if it makes a difference (why would it?) but my home PC is running windows 10 whilst my work one is still windows 7.
Are there any drivers I should be updating to allow Windows to see files on the phone?
I tried searching the phones internal storage for ALL .jpg files and I can see on my phone that I have 1000+ photos that I've taken and around 100+ images that have been downloaded from various places but when I search for all .jpg files I'm only getting 700 results in total. Something strange is going on and I hope I'm just being an idiot here and that I don't have a problem with my phone.
Did you try what Marsou77 said, when pluging phone into pc, on the phones screen, select files, not pictures, you should then be able to browse the whole phone from PC
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Did you try what Marsou77 said, when pluging phone into pc, on the phones screen, select files, not pictures, you should then be able to browse the whole phone from PC
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Yep, that's exactly what I'm doing. Tried keeping the screen on too as has been suggested but I'm still only seeing some of my files. Installed a different file manager on the P9 to double check where the phone says they are but they just don't appear on the PC.
Good news and bad news.
The good news is that I can now see my 1000+ photos and all the videos I've taken with the camera so I can now copy them off and free up more space on my phone. Very relieved that I can access all the files on my phone again.
The bad news is that I have no idea what has caused this sudden change in access. I'm using my work computer which is windows 7 and I haven't changed anything with the phone or done anything different today, just connected the phone and selected "files", as I have done each time. The only thing I can think of is that I deleted a few things from the phone yesterday whilst at home. I went through the installed file manager and decided to delete a few large-ish, downloaded videos that I decided that I didn't need to keep. Perhaps this increased the freespace on my device to a certain level in which allowed me to access all my files? I have no idea, and that's frustrating because this account can't really help anyone else that comes across this issue.
Since you asked, I install Flickr on my phone which uploads all images automatically at full resolution to its online server. Since Flickr gives 1 Tb free, it generally a no hassle solution. I have never connected my phone to my iMac so far. Plus the Hisuite has no OsX option.
Today just happened a strange thing: I connected my phone to download few photos (stored in the SD) and I found them in their place ("DCIM" folder), but I also found a lot of other photos were missing (and I immediately thought about this thread): I still found them inside the SD but inside the "Pictures" folder, not inside "DCIM" one.
I don't remember I actived any option, but that's it.
Just hope it can help some people in my situation.
Hi all!
I think I know the answer.
Basically its to do with a Memory storage settings>Default Location>Internal/ SD Card Storage and emulated storage.
Basically what's happened I was still playing with a settings and customizing my phone and set Default Location to Internal and then SD Card storage. And location of pictures became kinda scattered. I am still learning/reading how Android storage works for SD cards and also emulated storage. Now I set default location to internal storage, phone gave some warning about encryption and it restarted and now I can open SD card on my PC and all the pictures are there! Happy days
Hopefully that will help some people. Cheers
Hello everyone,
A friend of mine is in an urgent situation. She broke her phone in a car accident and we try to retrieve the data. The screen is broken completely, but the phone is working. We can call the phone, although it doesn't ring, and we can restart it. It also connects to the pc but it shows an empty folder. Unfortunately, she has formated the sd card as internal with android 6.
Is there anything we can do? We also have a second moto g 2 lte, but I don't think it will read the card. I also read that it doesn't support hdmi connection, is it?
Thanks for any suggestions.
After some time without an SD card, today I put one (Sandisk 32GB Ultra Plus I think) in the phone, formatted it as internal storage and opted to move data to the card.
The card got filled up to 17 GB; it seems the system has copied all the images and my files but no apps or other internal things.
Copied, not moved - because the internal storage remains to be filled up. The data however is inaccessible. I.e. when I eject or remove the card, there are no files visible on the phone, in fact it's as if there's no storage. E.g. the download folder doesn't exist, file managers can't see anything etc. So the files remain on the phone, but I can't access them.
Of course I can't move the data back from the card to the phone because... There's no space, so that process errors out.
Another problem this causes is when I update apps. The app gets moved to the card and all the app data gets reset/wiped.
What can I do about this? The phone isn't rooted or anything of the sort, it's all stock. However I also don't use Google's services, so I'm not exactly eager to do a factory reset and set everything from scratch. I have my files backed up, but I'd lose the app data, which would be a major hassle.
Thanks for any tips.
Try clearing the system cache.
You mean from the boot recovery menu? I did, it didn't help.
More notes:
- The "Free up space" button in storage doesn't work.
- Now I'm thinking, I have a lot of Google and Moto apps disabled, so maybe that's the problem (it's really been ages since I've messed with this, so I've forgotten about it). Any clue which app controls these things?
- I also just realized that every single file on the card has its date/time set to the time when I did the migration, and not when the files were originally created. Is this normal? (Cause it's pretty effed up.)
Anyway I'm not liking this. What can happen when I tell the system to "forget" the SD card? Any guesses?
The time stamp is normal.
There's hidden files, something...
Problem is, I can't get into the file system of the internal storage at all.
E.g. in Total Commander I can navigate the root folder and certain subfollders, but in terms of my files I can only get to the ones on the card; which is easy to distinguish due to the timestamp. And when the card us ejected or not present, there's nothing at all.
Factory reset if you get tired of playing with it... could be malware.
Any ideas, anyone? :/
What dis you mean be "formatted as internal storage"?
Well when you insert a new memory card, you can format is either as internal storage or external. Internal will act as just more phone storage, i.e. apps can be installed to it, and it's encrypted. Downside is there's no way to distinguish where anything gets saved.
External is just for files and in case of G6, it's not encrypted.
I think you better start from the beginning...
You always should use the SD card as a data drive.
Running apps should never go on it!
You never encrypt a data drive... unless you enjoy losing data!!!
Get the data off the SD card into the PC via data transfer from the phone.
Then factory reset the phone and reload.
Then add the SD card data drive, do not encrypt it! All critical data and backups go here.
Internal memory is for apps, the temporary download folder and the DCIM folder*.
*create a folder on the data drive to transfer photos from the DCIM folder on a regular basis.
Do Not name this folder DCIM! Name it Photo Master or such.
Excuse me, but you don't know what formatting as internal storage means, but you gonna give me a complete rundown how to use my phone in a completely different manner than I want to. I didn't ask any of this.
If I can't encrypt the SD card, then it might as well not be there at all. Motorola ****ed up by not supporting this.
Anyway, I sorta fixed it. Uninstalled some apps to clear up about 2.5GB of space, deleted all my files, "migrated" everything from card to phone, which was about 700 megs of nothing. Yep all my files were still there in the phone. And those 700 megs stayed on the card too. Whatever process is controlling this, is apparently unable to delete data.
Whatevs. Guess it's extra motivation to mess around with custom ROMs and stuff, I'm tired of OEM nonsense.
If you OS crashes/burns which is rare in Androids but certainly happens, your encrypted SD card data will not be accessible after a factory reset.
Lost forever... end of story.
That's why you never encrypt data drives; sooner or latter you will lose critical data, maybe your whole data base.
People are constantly posting here asking how to break 256 bit encryption. It's sadly halarious because it's not happening in their lifetime.
Meh, do what you will...
Same sheet here. I did the following and it worked:
1, while still in the phone, I backed up the content of the SD card. (Turned out I didn't need it, but better be safe)
2, switched off the phone
3, removed the SD card
4, Turned on the phone. Some apps, which didn't rely much on internal storage just worked without any issue. Others were missing the SD card.
5, From the drop-down menu I selected the SD-card related item and clicked on "Forget". This gave me some warnings, but I didn't have much to loose.
6, Magic happened: My phone recovered the previously hidden files and it worked just before I started the migration to SD card!
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Same sheet here. I did the following and it worked:
1, while still in the phone, I backed up the content of the SD card. (Turned out I didn't need it, but better be safe)
2, switched off the phone
3, removed the SD card
4, Turned on the phone. Some apps, which didn't rely much on internal storage just worked without any issue. Others were missing the SD card.
5, From the drop-down menu I selected the SD-card related item and clicked on "Forget". This gave me some warnings, but I didn't have much to loose.
6, Magic happened: My phone recovered the previously hidden files and it worked just before I started the migration to SD card!
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Welcome to XDA
Apps, DCIM and download folders go on internal memory.
All critical data including regular backups for the dcim folder go on the SD card ie data drive.
Any apps that allow backups can be backed up on the data drive but never running from it.
Once you add a SD card leave it in the device and access it through the device only to avoid issues.
If you're dealing with under 128gb internal memory... life will be hard*. That's what I consider a bare bones minimum, 256gb or larger is better.
*Adjust the amount of apps loaded accordingly and leave a couple gb of headroom. If you only got 16gb of memory it's going to be a light load.