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[Q] i have a moto x dev edition vzw

here my problem i've unlocked bootloader rooted and installed twrp but i cant update my phone to 4.4. everytime i take the ota update my phone just boots and shutdowns and repeats. any suggestions?

bk07 said:
here my problem i've unlocked bootloader rooted and installed twrp but i cant update my phone to 4.4. everytime i take the ota update my phone just boots and shutdowns and repeats. any suggestions?
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you're rooted trying to do an OTA?
once you root, accepting an OTA can mess up your phone or make you lose root.

PremierGT said:
you're rooted trying to do an OTA?
once you root, accepting an OTA can mess up your phone or make you lose root.
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idc about losing root b/c it has an unlockedbootloader getting root back is the easy part i do want the update to 4.4 though

bk07 said:
idc about losing root b/c it has an unlockedbootloader getting root back is the easy part i do want the update to 4.4 though
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flash back to stock recovery. then do OTA. should work for you.

PremierGT said:
flash back to stock recovery. then do OTA. should work for you.
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i've tryed that as well

bk07 said:
i've tryed that as well
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don't flash back to it in twrp. use rsdlite or manually flash it with fastboot commands. if you actually flashed the full ota and didn't have root or twrp anymore then you would be able to take the OTA no problem.

jayboyyyy said:
don't flash back to it in twrp. use rsdlite or manually flash it with fastboot commands. if you actually flashed the full ota and didn't have root or twrp anymore then you would be able to take the OTA no problem.
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Oddly I've done that even before I put twrp on my phone I used mfastboot with the stock IMG I got from moto. I did the update right when I got the phone and it did what I described so I thought I for find a something where I could flash stock to my phone by using twrp.

Download Motorola device manager. It should automatically restore the software to stock 4.4.
http://d1tsx1og7dz7v4.cloudfront.net/MotorolaDeviceManager_2.4.5.exe

thx for the help i had to mfastboot 4.4

This is your easiest option. All you need to do is run this utility. It will install drivers, download firmware, and flash back to stock. I used it earlier, and it's brilliant.
Even if you've already solved your problem, I highly recommend saving this for later use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597625

[Q] Install 5.1 OTA if rooted and bootloader unlocked?

Hi guys !
I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my device, and i don't know if i can upgrade my Nexus 6 by ota (received this morning on the phone) without brick it.
Is it dangerous?
Thank you
EDIT : I'm on stock Lollipop 5.0.1

Unlocked is fine. If you have root or any other system mods, you'll need to remove them.

Oh thanks for the quick answer
So if I unroot it with Nexus Root Toolkit it will be ok?

Midsylen said:
Oh thanks for the quick answer
So if I unroot it with Nexus Root Toolkit it will be ok?
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Nexus toolkit doesn't unroot. It reflashes the entire phone which also means root disappears. If you're going to do that, no point taking the ota. Just flash full update.
You can indoor via the SuperSU app.

Oh ok I just saw that.
So if I unroot via SuperSU it's ok i can install?

Midsylen said:
Oh ok I just saw that.
So if I unroot via SuperSU it's ok i can install?
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As long as you do the full unroot and made no other modifications. Oh and everything must be 100% stock, including recovery

I've installed TWRP...
So, what is the best way for me to install 5.1 without losing my data?

Midsylen said:
I've installed TWRP...
So, what is the best way for me to install 5.1 without losing my data?
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download the factory image that you want to update to.
extract the system.img, boot.img and radio.img
Fastboot flash them.
You could also flash the bootloader if you want though I dont see any point.

Ok, thank you for your quick answers

[Q] Upgrading from 5.0>5.1

Is it okay to flash the newest image (LMY74I) coming from LMY47O? I won't do any harm in skipping 5.0.1 will I?

Fastboot or recovery? Stock or custom rom? Best to fastboot the updated bootloader and radio if you are updating via custom recovery. I run stock and fastboot bootloader, radio, and system. Boot into recovery and then reboot. Before it reboots you will be prompted to install root. I use this updating method to keep my apps and settings.

mymusicathome said:
Fastboot or recovery? Stock or custom rom? Best to fastboot the updated bootloader and radio if you are updating via custom recovery. I run stock and fastboot bootloader, radio, and system. Boot into recovery and then reboot. Before it reboots you will be prompted to install root. I use this updating method to keep my apps and settings.
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That didn't answer my question. I'm wondering if I can skip 5.0.1 stock and go straight to 5.1 still stock.

Forerunner326 said:
That didn't answer my question. I'm wondering if I can skip 5.0.1 stock and go straight to 5.1 still stock.
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He couldn't answer your question because you were too vague. And still are.. What method are you using (now we know you're stock)? And will you be remaining unrooted?

rootSU said:
He couldn't answer your question because you were too vague. And still are.. What method are you using (now we know you're stock)? And will you be remaining unrooted?
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Unrooted, stock, 5.0 LMY47O to 5.1 LMY47I still stock and unrooted. I am sorry for the confusion.

Forerunner326 said:
Unrooted, stock, 5.0 LMY47O to 5.1 LMY47I still stock and unrooted. I am sorry for the confusion.
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If you're planning on unlocking the bootloader and flashing the full factory image then yes I that should be fine. Just a word of caution, relocking the bootloader has left some people in a bad place so do ensure if you just relock, that your phone is fully working and booting before hand.

rootSU said:
If you're planning on unlocking the bootloader and flashing the full factory image then yes I that should be fine. Just a word of caution, relocking the bootloader has left some people in a bad place so do ensure if you just relock, that your phone is fully working and booting before hand.
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Is this because oem unlocking was unchecked for those people?

rootSU said:
If you're planning on unlocking the bootloader and flashing the full factory image then yes I that should be fine. Just a word of caution, relocking the bootloader has left some people in a bad place so do ensure if you just relock, that your phone is fully working and booting before hand.
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Even if the device is rooted, all it will do is cause root to be lost correct?

Forerunner326 said:
Is this because oem unlocking was unchecked for those people?
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See this post on relocking instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59699095

Forerunner326 said:
Even if the device is rooted, all it will do is cause root to be lost correct?
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Yes but if its rooted, you'll never get OTA, so there's no point flashing the entire factory image.
If you flash the entire factory image and dont root, you'll get ota in future.
Though, I'm guessing g you'll be impatient anyway so its will be irrelevant. In which case since you'll probably just want to flash yourself and be rooted, why bother flashing the entire factory image? You dont need to flash recovery or bootloader... Just flash radio, system and boot.

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Yes but if its rooted, you'll never get OTA, so there's no point flashing the entire factory image.
If you flash the entire factory image and dont root, you'll get ota in future.
Though, I'm guessing g you'll be impatient anyway so its will be irrelevant. In which case since you'll probably just want to flash yourself and be rooted, why bother flashing the entire factory image? You dont need to flash recovery or bootloader... Just flash radio, system and boot.
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so if you are rooted on 5.0 stock and unlocked bootloader and no custom recoveries. How do you install the 5.1 update without losing everything?

theDXT said:
so if you are rooted on 5.0 stock and unlocked bootloader and no custom recoveries. How do you install the 5.1 update without losing everything?
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Flash everything from the factory image except the userdata.img

[Q] rooted, unlocked, TWRP recovery, stock, Verizon OTA help

I have a Verizon Nexus 6 that is rooted, unlocked, custom TWRP recovery and stock running 5.1 build LMY47E and I am getting the OTA notification for the 5.1.1 update. I have searched a good deal of places and haven't found the answer to how I might go about getting the update. I have been out of the rooting game for several years, so I am rusty and need a little help. I wasn't sure if there was a way to take the update and stay rooted or if I have to completely undo everything back to stock. Any info would be a great help and appreciated.

I could be mistaken, but I don't think that you can take an OTA amd remain rooted. I think it will break root, and you will have to re-root.
What I would suggest is to just flash a custom ROM that is build on 5.1.1 like Beans' PureNexus. That is what I am running, and it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-pure-nexus-project-t3148214

evolefty said:
I have a Verizon Nexus 6 that is rooted, unlocked, custom TWRP recovery and stock running 5.1 build LMY47E and I am getting the OTA notification for the 5.1.1 update. I have searched a good deal of places and haven't found the answer to how I might go about getting the update. I have been out of the rooting game for several years, so I am rusty and need a little help. I wasn't sure if there was a way to take the update and stay rooted or if I have to completely undo everything back to stock. Any info would be a great help and appreciated.
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a.demarco said:
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that you can take an OTA amd remain rooted. I think it will break root, and you will have to re-root.
What I would suggest is to just flash a custom ROM that is build on 5.1.1 like Beans' PureNexus. That is what I am running, and it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-pure-nexus-project-t3148214
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When installing a recovery, the updater script looks at system and boot. This means that you can not be rooted and and have the stock, encrypted kernel. You also need to have stock recovery to install the OTA.
You can download the 5.1.1 factory image from Google and flash the boot.img, system.img, bootloader.img, and radio.img. Then, while still in bootloader, select "recovery" and you will boot to TWRP where you can flash the SuperSU.zip.

a.demarco said:
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that you can take an OTA amd remain rooted. I think it will break root, and you will have to re-root.
What I would suggest is to just flash a custom ROM that is build on 5.1.1 like Beans' PureNexus. That is what I am running, and it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-pure-nexus-project-t3148214
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The OTA will not install when the device is rooted

cam30era said:
When installing a recovery, the updater script looks at system and boot. This means that you can not be rooted and and have the stock, encrypted kernel. You also need to have stock recovery to install the OTA.
You can download the 5.1.1 factory image from Google and flash the boot.img, system.img, bootloader.img, and radio.img. Then, while still in bootloader, select "recovery" and you will boot to TWRP where you can flash the SuperSU.zip.
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Just checked again and yes I am rooted, with TWRP and I also checked and the device is not encrypted, so maybe that is why I am getting the notification. I really appreciate your input on getting the update installed.

evolefty said:
Just checked again and yes I am rooted, with TWRP and I also checked and the device is not encrypted, so maybe that is why I am getting the notification. I really appreciate your input on getting the update installed.
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You'll get the notification. You just can't flash it.

I'm not sure there's been a full, satisfactory answer to this thread (or a few others). Would using something like Nexus Root Toolkit to 1) unroot 2) restore stock recovery, 3) accept the OTA. Will this work?
- Does this relock the bootloader? (Would we then have to unlock, thus wiping the device?)
- Can we successfully re-root and flash recovery? (Or will new 5.1.1 versions be needed?)
At some point, to get 5.1.1 going, should I just backup and flash the whole bloody image from Google?

DogzOfWar said:
I'm not sure there's been a full, satisfactory answer to this thread (or a few others). Would using something like Nexus Root Toolkit to 1) unroot 2) restore stock recovery, 3) accept the OTA. Will this work?
- Does this relock the bootloader? (Would we then have to unlock, thus wiping the device?)
- Can we successfully re-root and flash recovery? (Or will new 5.1.1 versions be needed?)
At some point, to get 5.1.1 going, should I just backup and flash the whole bloody image from Google?
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- OTA`s will not install if the sytem, boot and recovery are modified in any way.
- Reflashing the stock image will NOT lock the bootloader
- And yes you can flash a custom recovery and reroot after updating.
Or flash the latest stock rom with TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052.

gee2012 said:
- OTA`s will not install if the sytem, boot and recovery are modified in any way.
- Reflashing the stock image will NOT lock the bootloader
- And yes you can flash a custom recovery and reroot after updating.
Or flash the latest stock rom with TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052.
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So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?

DogzOfWar said:
So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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Best/easiest is to:
- fastboot erase system
- fastboot flash system system.img
- flash the stock boot and recovery.img if needed
- adb sideload the OTA in stock recovery
This will not wipe your device
And you don`t have to lock the bootloader ever unless you have too RMA it or send it in for service, OTA`s will even install with a unlocked bootloader.

DogzOfWar said:
So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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Supplementing that: using the "unroot" function in SuperSU is not sufficient with Lollipop. It still leaves the vestiges of a few modified files that will cause an OTA to fail.
gee2012 said:
Best/easiest is to:
- fastboot erase system
- fastboot flash system system.img
- flash the stock boot and recovery.img if needed
- adb sideload the OTA in stock recovery
This will not wipe your device
And you don`t have to lock the bootloader ever unless you have too RMA it or send it in for service, OTA`s will even install with a unlocked bootloader.
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gee2012 said:
Best/easiest is to:
- fastboot erase system
- fastboot flash system system.img
- flash the stock boot and recovery.img if needed
- adb sideload the OTA in stock recovery
This will not wipe your device
And you don`t have to lock the bootloader ever unless you have too RMA it or send it in for service, OTA`s will even install with a unlocked bootloader.
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Thanks for the info and I really appreciate your input. What are your feelings on using Wug's toolkit to unroot and go back stock, take the update, then re-root and flash the custom recovery. I have never used a toolkit before, but that seems to be the popular method. Like I said at the beginning I am new to all of this, the last device I rooted and really messed around with was the droid x so bear with me as I am learning. I am currently reading about Wug's and will look at the method you just spoke of, but any info would be great.

evolefty said:
Thanks for the info and I really appreciate your input. What are your feelings on using Wug's toolkit to unroot and go back stock, take the update, then re-root and flash the custom recovery. I have never used a toolkit before, but that seems to be the popular method. Like I said at the beginning I am new to all of this, the last device I rooted and really messed around with was the droid x so bear with me as I am learning. I am currently reading about Wug's and will look at the method you just spoke of, but any info would be great.
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I don`t like Toolkits tbh because like with all automated applications the unexperienced user has no idea whats going/has zero control over whats happening and if something goes wrong they can`t fix the issue. Imo its best to learn adb/fastboot/sideload.

gee2012 said:
I don`t like Toolkits tbh because like with all automated applications the unexperienced user has no idea whats going/has zero control over whats happening and if something goes wrong they can`t fix the issue. Imo its best to learn adb/fastboot/sideload.
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Gotcha, and completely understand. I will do some reading on that method and again thanks for your help.

evolefty said:
Gotcha, and completely understand. I will do some reading on that method and again thanks for your help.
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Read the sticky threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-sticky-roll-thread-t3061066, this is a good start. Adb and fastboot isn`t that hard but its very safe and effective

gee2012 said:
Read the sticky threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-sticky-roll-thread-t3061066, this is a good start. Adb and fastboot isn`t that hard but its very safe and effective
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Will do, and that is the method I used to root for the simple fact to learn.

evolefty said:
Will do, and that is the method I used to root for the simple fact to learn.
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Good luck

gee2012 said:
- OTA`s will not install if the sytem, boot and recovery are modified in any way.
- Reflashing the stock image will NOT lock the bootloader
- And yes you can flash a custom recovery and reroot after updating.
Or flash the latest stock rom with TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052.
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In that link you sent I am not seeing the VZW version of 5.1.1. Can we use the "International" version?
Thank you.

needoZ said:
In that link you sent I am not seeing the VZW version of 5.1.1. Can we use the "International" version?
Thank you.
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Yes, use the LMY47Z build.

DogzOfWar said:
So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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Bootloader does not have to be locked to take an OTA. You can not be rooted or modified in any way however.
gee2012 said:
I don`t like Toolkits tbh because like with all automated applications the unexperienced user has no idea whats going/has zero control over whats happening and if something goes wrong they can`t fix the issue. Imo its best to learn adb/fastboot/sideload.
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While I agree, once you have "paid your dues" and flashed without automation then the NRT is a great tool, so long as you have an understanding of what it is doing.

Does the latest security patch update stay when you root?

I was wondering what sort of changes take place when you root the G5s Plus. I got several patch updates so far. Will the latest update stay once I root the device? I just want to root the device for now, not install any custom roms.

I received an OTA with an unlocked bootloader so I don't see any reason why you wouldn't with root. This only works with the stock recovery though, if you have TWRP installed I don't think it will work.

William1020000 said:
I received an OTA with an unlocked bootloader so I don't see any reason why you wouldn't with root. This only works with the stock recovery though, if you have TWRP installed I don't think it will work.
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Rooting involves 3 steps. Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and install Magisk patch. Just unlocked bootloader doesn't mean phone is rooted.

androidman2018 said:
Rooting involves 3 steps. Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and install Magisk patch. Just unlocked bootloader doesn't mean phone is rooted.
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Unlikely that the OTA will install if you have TWRP and Magisk... I wonder if we can still use Flashfire to flash the OTA and keep recovery and root?