Does the latest security patch update stay when you root? - Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers

I was wondering what sort of changes take place when you root the G5s Plus. I got several patch updates so far. Will the latest update stay once I root the device? I just want to root the device for now, not install any custom roms.

I received an OTA with an unlocked bootloader so I don't see any reason why you wouldn't with root. This only works with the stock recovery though, if you have TWRP installed I don't think it will work.

William1020000 said:
I received an OTA with an unlocked bootloader so I don't see any reason why you wouldn't with root. This only works with the stock recovery though, if you have TWRP installed I don't think it will work.
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Rooting involves 3 steps. Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and install Magisk patch. Just unlocked bootloader doesn't mean phone is rooted.

androidman2018 said:
Rooting involves 3 steps. Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and install Magisk patch. Just unlocked bootloader doesn't mean phone is rooted.
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Unlikely that the OTA will install if you have TWRP and Magisk... I wonder if we can still use Flashfire to flash the OTA and keep recovery and root?

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[Q] Questions about root and OTA

Hello everyone, I'm new here, my nexus 6 is on stock 5.0.1 and waiting for update to 5.1, here are my concerns.
1. How can I root my phone without unlock boot loader or flash a twrp recovery( I Know if I got a twrp recovery, I can not get OTA).
2. If I need unlock boot loader in order to root, could this affect ota?
3. If I rooted my phone, can I get ota in the future?
Thanks.
Dennypalace said:
Hello everyone, I'm new here, my nexus 6 is on stock 5.0.1 and waiting for update to 5.1, here are my concerns.
1. How can I root my phone without unlock boot loader or flash a twrp recovery( I Know if I got a twrp recovery, I can not get OTA).
2. If I need unlock boot loader in order to root, could this affect ota?
3. If I rooted my phone, can I get ota in the future?
Thanks.
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1. You can't 2. No can be unlocked and still do the ota 3. YES!
nms247 said:
1. You can't 2. No can be unlocked and still do the ota 3. YES!
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Thanks. So this means if I want to root my phone, I will have to unlock boot loader. And is there anything I can do if I want to update through OTA after I rooted and unlocked my phone?
Dennypalace said:
Thanks. So this means if I want to root my phone, I will have to unlock boot loader. And is there anything I can do if I want to update through OTA after I rooted and unlocked my phone?
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As long as you flash the stock recovery before an ota you'll be fine
Actually any system modification including root on Lollipop will prevent an OTA so in answer to question 3, no.
Basically need to flash stock system.img, recovery.img and stock boot (if you changed the kernel).
At least thats what I'm about to do.
y2whisper said:
Basically need to flash stock system.img, recovery.img and stock boot (if you changed the kernel).
At least thats what I'm about to do.
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Correct. That's exactly what I did, and it worked.
rootSU said:
Actually any system modification including root on Lollipop will prevent an OTA so in answer to question 3, no.
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Weird as I took the OTA while rooted.
Still working on it on my end. Drivers aren't installed for add sideboard trying to figure it out

Some questions

I got my device on next week and I have some questions:
If I want root, I need to unlock bootloader?
I got OTA updates if my bootloader was unlocked? and what about TWRP?
I can install OTA update on TWRP without data loss?
If my phone is rooted I need to install OTA only with TWRP?
Thanks.
saarxee said:
I got my device on next week and I have some questions:
If I want root, I need to unlock bootloader?
I got OTA updates if my bootloader was unlocked? and what about TWRP?
I can install OTA update on TWRP without data loss?
If my phone is rooted I need to install OTA only with TWRP?
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...kit-oneplus-3t-toolkit-unlock-t3507729/page25
Ota still downloadable after unlocked BL and yes you can install ota on twrp without data loss (correct me if im wrong)
So doing adb sideload first to 4.0.2 and unlock my bootloader and install twrp with root?
I am afraid to brick my phone (many users here brick this phone)
saarxee said:
So doing adb sideload first to 4.0.2 and unlock my bootloader and install twrp with root?
I am afraid to brick my phone (many users here brick this phone)
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Bricking your phone while rooting is actually a very rare thing.
So doing adb sideload to 4.0.2 or flash twrp on 3.5.4
And after that install 4.0.2 clean with this?

OTA Updates with bootloader unlocked?

Hi guys!
I have a simple question... I have a P10 VTR-L09 rebranded to VTR-L29... After a few month with EMUI i have tested LineageOS from Openkirin.net, but the ROM has to many bugs for me so i get back to EMUI.
Everything worked fine, now i have 8.0.0.374 (C432) on my device, but my bootloader is still UNLOCKED!
Will i receive OTA Updates in the future because i am on StockROM back again or is OTA not working with an unlocked bootloader?
Thx a lot!
OTA shouldn't be a problem with unlocked bootloader WITHOUT root. If you rooted your phone it's not possible to update via OTA.
In fact, you're not able to complete lock the bootloader on Oreo again.
Ok, i have no root, only bootloader unlock, so i will see the next weeks if it works... If not, i have to flash updates via TWRP...
stefan.irmen said:
Ok, i have no root, only bootloader unlock, so i will see the next weeks if it works... If not, i have to flash updates via TWRP...
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Yes, you need to be very patient. Huawei update policy is a miracle, no know really knows when they release updates in which region, there are even different release times for the same model and region
If OTA doesn't work, you can try my guide, tutorial #3 (only works when you got the OTA update)
Yes i know... Before P10 i used some Xiaomi Phones and the community and update policy is awesome! But if you know a little bit of bootloader and TWRP you should be able to handle the most phones i think...
Thx a lot for your help!
Jannomag said:
OTA shouldn't be a problem with unlocked bootloader WITHOUT root. If you rooted your phone it's not possible to update via OTA.
In fact, you're not able to complete lock the bootloader on Oreo again.
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If i unlocked the bootloader and rooted with magisk, then used the remove root option in magisk ,would ota work again?

How to Root LG G6 H872 on Android Oreo

Hi everyone! I recently bought a LG G6 H872, which still has 10e installed. After crawling the forums for a bit, here's the sequence of things I wanted to do to it:
1.) Update to 8.0 Oreo via OTA.
2.) Unlock bootloader
3.) Root and TWRP using this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g6/how-to/root-h872-to-including-11g-t3775518
4.) Magisk
Is the latest Oreo update the 20a version that is mentioned in the thread or should I manually update it to something older. I saw that there was anti-rollback so I don't want to update too far. Also, if there is ever another OTA, how does one update the rooted phone?
Edit: I wrote up some steps if it helps you on this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77513501&postcount=4
I do not believe there is currently a way to root the T-Mobile versions.
patruns said:
I do not believe there is currently a way to root the T-Mobile versions.
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That is not correct, see: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g6/how-to/root-h872-to-including-11g-t3775518
For future people who come across this thread, here are the steps I took to root this phone:
1.) Factory reset and then update device via OTA incrementally until 20a (which is Android Oreo 8.0)
2.) unlock bootloader: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpaW0-8-QKY
3.) root device: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g6/how-to/root-h872-to-including-11g-t3775518
Note: there is a video tutorial here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z4CWLikPcI&t=821s. The first steps of flashing the laf partition are very useful to watch before attempting
4.) Factory reset in TWRP
5.) Reset after encryption error, then wipe with TWRP. May give mount error.
6.) Boot into Android Oreo. Device is not yet rooted at this point.
6.) Flash MAGISK via TWRP (SD card or ADB push) ]. Ignore the mount error. Reboot.
7.) Device is rooted! :good:
That's interesting
Without getting into an issue those steps look slightly different in order than the original process.
Or I'm a dumbass and somehow got it out of order. Seems ok now though.
Hello there!
I want to ask if it's the same to do the steps with 20e ?
Curious as well if this works with the latest update.
thendless said:
Curious as well if this works with the latest update.
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This is an already rooted version of the latest update. I've downloaded but haven't flashed it yet, but the op is good and I've never had an issue with his work.
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3875515&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk
I succeeded in completing the process.
Permanent unlock from Tom via app.
Unlocked bootloader.
Twrp installed to recovery, can boot to recovery via low volume/power button combo.
Magisk installed.
20a working nicely.
I'm getting requests from Tmo to update from 20a to 20d. Is this recommended? Will twrp, root, unlock, etc. be lost?
I am glad to see that the bootloader gets unlocked easily. @alliance1975 how did you go from Unlocked bootloader step to Twrp installed step? That is the big one I think.
There is a good TWRP available, but we can't install it because the phone lacks fastboot commands. Is there a way to install TWRP? Or is it really that the only method is the rather risky runningnak3d method?
interestor said:
I am glad to see that the bootloader gets unlocked easily. @alliance1975 how did you go from Unlocked bootloader step to Twrp installed step? That is the big one I think.
There is a good TWRP available, but we can't install it because the phone lacks fastboot commands. Is there a way to install TWRP? Or is it really that the only method is the rather risky runningnak3d method?
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I used the procedure summarized in step 3. I agree it is risky, well, the riskiest root & twrp I've ever tried. I neglected to say I only read instructions, the dev who actually came up with the plan deserves all the credit.
When I try to oem unlock nothing happens. What can I do? I have followed all other instructions.
Follow steps from this https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g6/how-to/unlock-bootloader-tmo-t3578099
Yeah I got my bootloader unlocked
alliance1975 said:
I succeeded in completing the process.
Permanent unlock from Tom via app.
Unlocked bootloader.
Twrp installed to recovery, can boot to recovery via low volume/power button combo.
Magisk installed.
20a working nicely.
I'm getting requests from Tmo to update from 20a to 20d. Is this recommended? Will twrp, root, unlock, etc. be lost?
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Any info on this? Will updating from 20a mess up the phone (root, etc...)?

OTA updates with Magisk?

I’m sure this is very simple and I’m just not getting it…
got new moto x4 XT1900-1 from b&h
unlocked boot loader with motorola code
using windows fast boot was able to follow the "How to : Moto X4 Root & TWRP Recovery" bu Munchy on youtube to install twrp using payton 3.2.1-1
then installed Magish 17.1 which seems to be what actually rooted the phone as per confirmation by Root Check app shows 8.1.0
now I am getting constant ota notices of a security update OPWS28.3.2 and I download it and it fails which is apparently normal for a rooted phone.
Can I disable the root and update???…can this be done by turning off magic…or uninstalling it…or is this done by tarp?
I believe I should back up the recover image using twrp…then what?…find and boot to a stock image?
???
any info appreciated
tia
PS…I just tried the "topjohnwu Update OTA tutorial for v17" method in tips and tricks on here and it also said update failed???
jojojones said:
I’m sure this is very simple and I’m just not getting it…
got new moto x4 XT1900-1 from b&h
unlocked boot loader with motorola code
using windows fast boot was able to follow the "How to : Moto X4 Root & TWRP Recovery" bu Munchy on youtube to install twrp using payton 3.2.1-1
then installed Magish 17.1 which seems to be what actually rooted the phone as per confirmation by Root Check app shows 8.1.0
now I am getting constant ota notices of a security update OPWS28.3.2 and I download it and it fails which is apparently normal for a rooted phone.
Can I disable the root and update???…can this be done by turning off magic…or uninstalling it…or is this done by tarp?
I believe I should back up the recover image using twrp…then what?…find and boot to a stock image?
???
any info appreciated
tia
PS…I just tried the "topjohnwu Update OTA tutorial for v17" method in tips and tricks on here and it also said update failed???
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What I did (might be an easier way but this was fast and easy):
1) Uninstall/remove Magisk.
2) Re-flash firmware over current system but don't do 'fastboot erase userdata'
3) Boot into your system and take all the OTA's
4) Re-install Magisk via TWRP
Took about 10 minutes. Longest part was waiting for OTA's to install.
Sorry...I'm new to all this. How do I reflash firmware?....use twrp app that is installed?
Magisk 17 supposedly has the ability to do this.
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
If you try this, please let us know. I have been waiting for an update to test this function.
jhedfors said:
Magisk 17 supposedly has the ability to do this.
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
If you try this, please let us know. I have been waiting for an update to test this function.
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Did not work for me. Nothing has so far.
jojojones said:
Sorry...I'm new to all this. How do I reflash firmware?....use twrp app that is installed?
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Use this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/how-to/guide-how-to-flash-official-factory-t3808348
Remove command "fastboot erase userdata" from script flash-all.bat/flash-all.sh.
jhedfors said:
Magisk 17 supposedly has the ability to do this.
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
If you try this, please let us know. I have been waiting for an update to test this function.
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I've tried this, and it didn't work. Ended up having to boot into TWRP, uninstall Magisk, and then reboot. Haven't bothered trying to update since I attempted that.
jhedfors said:
Magisk 17 supposedly has the ability to do this.
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
If you try this, please let us know. I have been waiting for an update to test this function.
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I spent a little while trying to apply OTA with magisk. The only way I was able to do it was to flash the stock firmware like everyone says. I could only find 8.0, so I had to flash the firmware, install 3 OTA's, then reinstall twrp/magisk.
The only thing I didn't try was installing magisk without twrp, which I believe is supported but I'm not sure. I think that might be the secret sauce to fixing it, but I'm not sure, and I haven't wanted to reflash and go through the whole process again.
tjololo12 said:
I spent a little while trying to apply OTA with magisk. The only way I was able to do it was to flash the stock firmware like everyone says. I could only find 8.0, so I had to flash the firmware, install 3 OTA's, then reinstall twrp/magisk.
The only thing I didn't try was installing magisk without twrp, which I believe is supported but I'm not sure. I think that might be the secret sauce to fixing it, but I'm not sure, and I haven't wanted to reflash and go through the whole process again.
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If you have the xt1900-1 retus you can flash the android one firmware which is 8.1 (currently on the Aug 2018 security patch).
ptn107 said:
If you have the xt1900-1 retus you can flash the android one firmware which is 8.1 (currently on the Aug 2018 security patch).
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I have the android one variant. Do you know where I can get the firmware? There's a new security patch and I'd like to try installing it with stock bootloader + magisk (installed from a temporary twrp boot) to see if that works with the OTA. I'd like to get the method working since android 9 is coming at some point.
tjololo12 said:
I have the android one variant. Do you know where I can get the firmware? There's a new security patch and I'd like to try installing it with stock bootloader + magisk (installed from a temporary twrp boot) to see if that works with the OTA. I'd like to get the method working since android 9 is coming at some point.
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September 2018 OTA for Android One (Oreo 8.1):
Blur_Version.28.251.17.payton_fi.google_fi.en.US
Click to "Download" and save as ZIP file.
Only way how to apply OTA update with magisk rooted X4 is flash ROM using fastboot (august 2018 ROM is on AFH), remove command 'fastboot erase userdata' from script 'flash-all.bat', install september OTA from adb sideload/SD card and root again.
Comby_sk said:
September 2018 OTA for Android One (Oreo 8.1):
Blur_Version.28.251.17.payton_fi.google_fi.en.US
Click to "Download" and save as ZIP file.
Only way how to apply OTA update with magisk rooted X4 is flash ROM using fastboot (august 2018 ROM is on AFH), remove command 'fastboot erase userdata' from script 'flash-all.bat', install september OTA from adb sideload/SD card and root again.
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Thanks, the rom is exactly what I was looking for, I just wasn't sure which one to use. I'd hate to install the wrong rom and mess something up.
EDIT: I did get a chance to try it and you're correct, there is no way to install an OTA to this device without fully reflashing the stock rom, taking the OTA, then installing Magisk. I tried the following steps:
1. Flash ROM given from androidfilehost
2. Reboot, wait for OTA notification
3. Boot to bootloader
4. use fastboot to temporarily boot twrp
5. flash magisk 17.1 zipfile
6. reboot to system, verify that magisk/root is installed
7. Uninstall magisk using magisk manager "Restore Images" as given in the tips.md file
8. Take OTA
the OTA still failed, so even though TWRP wasn't installed and it was still the stock recovery, I was unable to install the OTA. Shame, it'd be nice if we could get this to work, but oh well.

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