Previously I've used Samsung devices, which I root the moment I get them. I've tried stock and its horrible, rooting is pretty much necessary. But then I got this phone and its got just about everything I wanted in a ROM on my Samsung devices. What has been the experience of you lot? Is it that big of a difference?
It's just like everyone else says. 100% personal preference.
I root all my devices primarily for Xposed framework. It's something I pretty much can't live without. The stock ROM on the X is near flawless as is, so I have no desire to flash a custom ROM, but Xposed gives me the little flourishes that I like that aren't offered by the stock ROM.
Aside from flashing ROMs on your Samsungs, were there any root apps that you grew accustomed to using? Maybe Titanium Backup? If so, then root. If not, don't. You'll have an amazing experience either way.
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I root all my devices primarily for Xposed framework. It's something I pretty much can't live without. The stock ROM on the X is near flawless as is, so I have no desire to flash a custom ROM, but Xposed gives me the little flourishes that I like that aren't offered by the stock ROM.
Aside from flashing ROMs on your Samsungs, were there any root apps that you grew accustomed to using? Maybe Titanium Backup? If so, then root. If not, don't. You'll have an amazing experience either way.
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Couple random little things, like viper4android, but your sentiment was the general mimpression I had as well.
It is all personal preference. I used to root for the Roms, but the Moto X 2014 is nearly perfect on stock. I still root because I like to be able to install an ad blocker and be able to reboot rather than just powering off.
Although I initially rooted my X on KitKat for xposed, I believe its perfectly good even left as stock. I only rooted after moving to Lollipop to reduce the DPI as that's the one thing about stock X that really gets on my nerves. Everything else is gravy.
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But the only thing I will be missing is moto features.....
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rohithksaj said:
But the only thing I will be missing is moto features.....
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You don't lose moto apps on rooting.
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It's just like everyone else says. 100% personal preference.
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HAXTREME said:
Although I initially rooted my X on KitKat for xposed, I believe its perfectly good even left as stock. I only rooted after moving to Lollipop to reduce the DPI as that's the one thing about stock X that really gets on my nerves. Everything else is gravy.
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What do you mean by "reducing DPI" ?
HAXTREME said:
Although I initially rooted my X on KitKat for xposed, I believe its perfectly good even left as stock. I only rooted after moving to Lollipop to reduce the DPI as that's the one thing about stock X that really gets on my nerves. Everything else is gravy.
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I thought you could do this with an adb command and doesn't need root? Pretty sure that is the case.
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I thought you could do this with an adb command and doesn't need root? Pretty sure that is the case.
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It is, yeah. But I've always been more comfortable doing it via apps or build.prop editors..so..
Besides, I tend to change it around quite a few times till I've settled on one that suits me best. I'd rather not be tied down to a computer to do it. Rooting is just a one-time hassle so I prefer it that way. Plus, greenify, adblock, etc.
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You don't lose moto apps on rooting.
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I was referring to flashing new roms.. There's no roms available atm which supports moto functions..
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What do you mean by "reducing DPI" ?
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I think he means the dpi feature in the xposed module "app settings"
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Now with root I cant wait to get some custom roms again!!!!
cyanogen?
Doesn't the bootloader still need to be unlocked before custom roms can be used?
They could make a bootstrapper like what was used for the d2 and dx
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How do you add custom roms? I tried installing rom manager but it doesnt list droid 3 in the phone models i have to choose...what do i do?
There aren't any available yet. Patience, young patawon
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this is my first time rooting. so, now that im rooted but cant install custom roms, what can i do? anyway to make my phone faster, like overclocking or getting rid of the motorola bloatware?? my d3 lags like crazy for some reason
is it possible to install a custom recovery (RzR or CWR?) or will that need unlocked bootloader?
My bad if the question has already been answered
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this is my first time rooting. so, now that im rooted but cant install custom roms, what can i do? anyway to make my phone faster, like overclocking or getting rid of the motorola bloatware?? my d3 lags like crazy for some reason
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Install Titanium Backup and purchase a license key. Freeze the crap and enjoy!
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Deleted my blockbuster apk any chance someone can send me it, i wanna put it back on and freeze it just incase
I wouldn't worry about the blockbuster app. And I would get adblock, for sure.
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I wouldn't worry about the blockbuster app. And I would get adblock, for sure.
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AdFree Android?
smoshism said:
I wouldn't worry about the blockbuster app. And I would get adblock, for sure.
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Should try DroidWall instead it blocks any unwanted apps from internet access therefore no ads, well worth it.
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AdFree Android?
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yeah, that's the one. Haha
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Deleted all thos vcast and verizon apps, along with citrix, dlna, gotomeeting, blockbuster, etc.
WOW. The results are unbelievable..my phone is atleast 3-4 times faster. Before this I would have an average of 80-120 mb ram free, and now almost 200mb. I used to have TERRIBLE lag on this, sometimes waiting up to 5-10 seconds for my camera app to open..it was absurd. Now, its snappy..opens up in under 2 seconds.
AMAZED.
So, how long until I can make this baby even faster with a custom rom such as cyanogen?
Anybody have one besides for development? The Google representative here at Best Buy is arguing that to him, he sees to reason to root a nexus phone because its already AOSP. I watched the new XDA video on it and showed him but he feels he isn't missing anything worth it.
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zander145 said:
Anybody have one besides for development? The Google representative here at Best Buy is arguing that to him, he sees to reason to root a nexus phone because its already AOSP. I watched the new XDA video on it and showed him but he feels he isn't missing anything worth it.
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Rooting will allow you to install some apps that require root ie. TitaniumBackup.
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zander145 said:
Anybody have one besides for development? The Google representative here at Best Buy is arguing that to him, he sees to reason to root a nexus phone because its already AOSP. I watched the new XDA video on it and showed him but he feels he isn't missing anything worth it.
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How else would someone use rooted apps?
Titanium backup, adaway, even cerburus offers better protection on rooted devices.
Maybe you want to do a nandroid backup, flash ROMs, kernels, tweaks etc
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So it can grow when water is added to it.
Nandroid backups...
"Because you can"
AOKP, Cyanogenmod, etc.
Have a look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTkHe7-lXw
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How else would someone use rooted apps?
Titanium backup, adaway, even cerburus offers better protection on rooted devices.
Maybe you want to do a nandroid backup, flash ROMs, kernels, tweaks etc
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I tried that a while ago. He said "android already does that, when I logged in it downloaded all my apps" i tried explaining that he had to download them and with titanium backup it saves your settings and everything and you don't need data, but he didn't listen saying he was on WiFi and something else. And he says he's okay with the virus protection 4.2 offers.
I just figured out why its useless talking to him though. He's a iSheep. He only has a nexus 7 and 4 because Google gave them to him.
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Have a look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTkHe7-lXw
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I showed him that but his eyes kinda glazed over when i made him watch it... i said it in the OP.
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Well if someone is completely against rooting and doesn't see any benefit in it, then he will be happy even with a iPhone.
No need to argue about the missed possibilities
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Have a look here:
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Good vid!
+1 for Titanium
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Titanium, file access, being able to remove system apps, there are many reasons to root besides developing..
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Adway is my number one reason. I can't stand ads anymore. They are everywhere! on the internet browser, games, radio and apps. Adaway gets rid of all of them. Makes me enjoy my nexus phone so much more
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I'm tired of flashing ROMs, after a G1, Vibrant, Galaxy Tab and GS2. I'm currently happy enough with proper unskinned, pure Android on my N7 & N4. I don't feel compelled to root either one. It sounds like some of you think that makes me a bad person! LOL
My old Galaxy Tab is on CM9, used by my 7 y.o. son. The GS2 is on CM10, used by my 12 y.o. daughter. I consider both more imperfect combinations than 4.2 on my Nexxi. Great, best options for their hardware, but the Nexxi are superior. My daughter wants an N4 when they're back in stock. I now want a N10 to complete the trifecta.
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yah its user preference. Some people get tired of flashing ROMs, like myself and in the end of the day I just want phone to work reliably. BUT i am rooted!
I love the aspect of custom kernels most. You can improve performance, battery life or even add features to the device.
Don't bother the guy into rooting. I've rooted since my Og moto droid. Back then you wanted more performance or features that didn't come stock. Aosp has hit a point where I don't need to root anymore. So many Roms out there that claim its been optimized, zipalinged , faster this and that battery this and that. It always ended up buggier than **** days later. Rooting takes time, research, more time.
4.2 has everything I need. I don't need ti because I don't need to wipe my phone. There are no preinstalled apps I need to get rid of. Tethering is included.
Android is about choice. Please don't label someone an isheep because they are happy with what they have.
Root is 1 file. Why not?
Modify clock speed
Modify the screen colors(Voodoo i think)
Performance gains(ext4, jit, etc)
Fix Bugs in stock Rom
Can fix compatibility with apps
Remove Bloatware if exists
Access to Root apps like ChainFire 3D
Titanium backup
Don't need anymore reason
So I have a Moto x that I bought from ting. I unlocked the bootloader through the Motorola website. Then I flashed a nightly Cyanogenmod 11 room through TWRP custom recovery. All works well through ting. But the unlock screen and notification tray say Verizon wireless.
Anything I can do about That?
Also does anyone know when active notifications or touches or control might be added? Or can I add them myself?
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What's ting? And good luck with seeing any of the Moto-specific apps getting added to CM. Grab them off the Play Store, I have no idea of they'll work or not.
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What's ting? And good luck with seeing any of the Moto-specific apps getting added to CM. Grab them off the Play Store, I have no idea of they'll work or not.
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The play store tells me they are not compatible with my device. Ting is an mvno carrier that uses Sprints network. When you call them during normal business hours a live human answers the phone, and the pricing is quite good. I highly recommend them.
Maybe I will go back to stock Android 4.4 and simply have root. Now I have to figure out how to do that.
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So I have a Moto x that I bought from ting. I unlocked the bootloader through the Motorola website. Then I flashed a nightly Cyanogenmod 11 room through TWRP custom recovery. All works well through ting. But the unlock screen and notification tray say Verizon wireless.
Anything I can do about That?
Also does anyone know when active notifications or touches or control might be added? Or can I add them myself?
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Can you link me to the cyanogen version you used please?
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Surely....... http://download.cyanogenmod.org/get/jenkins/51605/cm-11-20131217-EXPERIMENTAL-xt1060.zip
That is the direct link to the download. It works great on my phone. But I miss the two features that make the moto x the moto x. Without the active notifications and touchless control I may as well get a Nexus 5.
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What exactly does CM give you that rooted stock with Xposed and Gravitybox can't or don't?
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What exactly does CM give you that rooted stock with Xposed and Gravitybox can't or don't?
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That is an excellent question. Can anyone advise?
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That is an excellent question. Can anyone advise?
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Cm gives less customization than stock ROM does , you still need exposed and gravity box, also cm gives you sound issues and camera issues
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Yeah after a few days I can't recommend doing what I did. I'm gonna go back to stock rooted. I have no data and my handset doesn't work through the normal earpiece (speaker phone only)
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Yeah after a few days I can't recommend doing what I did. I'm gonna go back to stock rooted. I have no data and my handset doesn't work through the normal earpiece (speaker phone only)
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There is a sound fix zip that fixes the headphone jack issue
Here http://d-h.st/h2U
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So I search xda and couldn't find anything current.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=so i'm rooted, now what?
I just rooted my att N3 using Kingo. So now what?
I installed root checker, but that's it.
What do you folks suggest one does with a freshly root N3?
backing up?
removing bloatware?
make the powerful N3 even better?
what things have you rooting pros done with your new N3,
are there "must do" things as well?
I know some of you have really improved your stock N3, what do you suggest one do fresh after rooting?
Titanium Backup is a must for freezing and/or removing bloatware.
After that, check out Exposed Framework and Wanam, That will keep you busy for a while.
I would recommend a custom ROM
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Titanium Backup is a must for freezing and/or removing bloatware.
After that, check out Exposed Framework and Wanam, That will keep you busy for a while.
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Which one? the free one that says Titanium Backup Root?
XiphoneUzer said:
Which one? the free one that says Titanium Backup Root?
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Yes. I believe it's free with limited features. I actually purchased the full version.
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Yes. I believe it's free with limited features. I actually purchased the full version.
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They don't say what the difference is when I click on the $6.58 version and read.
I don't wanna just blindly buy something, what do you like about the paid version?
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They don't say what the difference is when I click on the $6.58 version and read.
I don't wanna just blindly buy something, what do you like about the paid version?
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It has a lot of capabilites but I used it for mostly freezing and backing up apps. I'm sure there's a thread around here about the app and all its capabilities.
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I would recommend a custom ROM
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OK, I'm ready to go romen, (and not the noodles) - lol
Would you kindly PM me a recommendation, one without the dreaded KNOX crapola please?
Lots of views, few replies.
(I bet a lot of stock users are looking to this thread for reasons to root :good
Keep the ideas coming rooters, I'm ready to customize some thangs -
Spend some time and flash any ROMs that appear interesting till you find one you like. Install Xposed framework and browse through all the modules and look for anything that interests you; Wanam and App Setting are probably the 2 most popular modules and sometimes installed already on custom ROMs.
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Spend some time and flash any ROMs that appear interesting till you find one you like. Install Xposed framework and browse through all the modules and look for anything that interests you; Wanam and App Setting are probably the 2 most popular modules and sometimes installed already on custom ROMs.
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Thanks for the ideas Matt, where do I find ROMs to look at ?
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Thanks for the ideas Matt, where do I find ROMs to look at ?
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ATT Note 3 android development thread is where all the ROMs made for our phone will be.
Welcome to the community! Titanium backup pro is a must if you're going to be romming and modding you're android devices. Custom roms are definitely the way to go especially being new to android modding. There are a few really smart dudes developing great custom roms for the n9005a. They do all the work that you would want done and they're really good at it. I recommend knoxraid by @drakeymcmb. He has been involved with romming this phone since before we had a recovery to flash from. There a bunch of helpful people that follow his thread.
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This would be a decent thread to ask this in I can't seem to find the apk to freeze to stop updates I use app quarantine to do this btw
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This would be a decent thread to ask this in I can't seem to find the apk to freeze to stop updates I use app quarantine to do this btw
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Freeze anything that says updater/fw upgrade.
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Welcome to the community! Titanium backup pro is a must if you're going to be romming and modding you're android devices.
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What does the "Pro" version give you that the free version doesn't, (can't find any info on that in the play store)
Allows you to freeze apps, and allows for automated restore operations. Well worth the money if you plan on restoring backups across multiple roms.
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What does the "Pro" version give you that the free version doesn't, (can't find any info on that in the play store)
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http://www.titaniumtrack.com/titanium-backup.html has a side by side comparison. Little less confusing than the play store pages that predominantly list the pro features.
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http://www.titaniumtrack.com/titanium-backup.html has a side by side comparison. Little less confusing than the play store pages that predominantly list the pro features.
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Thanks you Chevyguy85.
Keep up the post-rooting tips guys, I'm gonna edit the 1st post and start listing all your suggestions :good:
What else, us newbies what to learn more.
Im trying to figure out WHY I need to root the nexus 6. I know how to do it but this is as pure android as it comes so why root? Other than decryption and ability to put other roms on, what other reason is there? Seems like a pain in the ass to me because everything gets wiped out after unlocking the bootloader.
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Add blockers, sound mods for increased ear bud volume, titanium backups....those are on my current to do list, but I have not rooted yet. It's the pita updates that are stopping me.
Thats why the first thing you do when you get the phone is to unlock the bootloader. Even if you "decrypt" the phone, it will wipe your phone as you have to format user data.
The reasons for rooting is the same as any phone, we simply root because we want to and we want to get the most of our precious device. Nexus devices are devices that are out there in the wild that are meant to be tinkered with in terms of rooting, custom roms, custom kernels, custom mods, etc.
Some highlights of rooting,
1) Custom Kernels... tuneables for these kernels require root (RGB, Min/Max Freq, etc)
2) Apps that require root (titanium backup, adblock, greenify, etc)
...... and more.
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Im trying to figure out WHY I need to root the nexus 6. I know how to do it but this is as pure android as it comes so why root? Other than decryption and ability to put other roms on, what other reason is there? Seems like a pain in the ass to me because everything gets wiped out after unlocking the bootloader.
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thats why people who need root do it right away, so they dont lose much data. you dont need root, so you don't have another reason to root. i do. i change my system files, so need root for that. plus, stock tends to lag in places. i change how my cpu works, so it gets rid of all the lag. you need root for that as well. plus viper4android.. also needs root. plus many other things that i use, also needs root.
All very valid reasons. I forgot about this because my work made me use Samsung phone which I hated because of touchwiz. Note 2/3 just sucks
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All very valid reasons. I forgot about this because my work made me use Samsung phone which I hated because of touchwiz. Note 2/3 just sucks
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I hope you're enjoying yourself on the N6 and clean Android
This might be the best phone since the nexus 4 or the g1. I love it and will be rooting!
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Oh yeah! Another big reason to root the N6 is to change the DPI.
You're practically seeing the same thing you'd see on a smaller device but with a bigger screen so changing the DPI becomes super useful and game changing.
USB OTG
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USB OTG
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how can I change the kernel?
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how can I change the kernel?
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unlock your bootloader, flash a custom recovery, then you can flash any kernel you want.
Any kernels you recommend? I was also looking at liquid smooth for a rom, but I want to wait for cm12
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Im trying to figure out WHY I need to root the nexus 6. I know how to do it but this is as pure android as it comes so why root? Other than decryption and ability to put other roms on, what other reason is there? Seems like a pain in the ass to me because everything gets wiped out after unlocking the bootloader.
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I can't figure why anyone would buy a Nexus 6 and NOT root it. It's so easy it's definitely NOT a PITA.
It's like someone once asked Willie Sutton : "Why do you rob banks?" His reply : "Because that's where the money is!"
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Any kernels you recommend? I was also looking at liquid smooth for a rom, but I want to wait for cm12
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Sensei, use Trickster Mod to control. Use intelliplug and intelliactive governor. Turn off MPdecision.
Or take advantage of the many other controls in there, including RGB screen color adjustments.
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Any kernels you recommend? I was also looking at liquid smooth for a rom, but I want to wait for cm12
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lean or elementalx, both kernels are good.
I rooted because material design is fugly.
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Really? I love material design
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I rooted for viper audio.
had my N6 for a bit. Considering unlocking/ rooting primarily for the tap-to-wake functionality.
can't understand why they didn't enable it right outta the box...
I rooted so I could edit my build prop and tether since Verizon blocks me otherwise.
I agree with ad blocking as a reason to root. It's especially apparent when you tether a computer. As you surf the web you're actually a bit shocked at how few ads you see.