I have a N6 rooted and I am waiting for the OTA rollout for 5.1 and I am wondering if i need to unroot before doing the 5.1 OTA?
zd913 said:
I have a N6 rooted and I am waiting for the OTA rollout for 5.1 and I am wondering if i need to unroot before doing the 5.1 OTA?
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To take an OTA, you'll need a 100% stock system image and be on stock recovery.
To be sure the OTA updates your system, your best option would be to fastboot flash the stock system.img and recovery.img from the stock 5.0.1 factory images (assuming you are on 5.0.1 now).
You could, just as easy, stop waiting and download/flash the 5.1 factory images manually, not flashing the userdata.img to keep your data intact (must be bootloader unlocked of course), then re-root.
tcrews said:
To take an OTA, you'll need a 100% stock system image and be on stock recovery.
To be sure the OTA updates your system, your best option would be to fastboot flash the stock system.img and recovery.img from the stock 5.0.1 factory images (assuming you are on 5.0.1 now).
You could, just as easy, stop waiting and download/flash the 5.1 factory images manually, not flashing the userdata.img to keep your data intact (must be bootloader unlocked of course), then re-root.
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Yes i am on 5.0.1. Do i need to unroot before i flash the 5.1 factory image?
zd913 said:
Yes i am on 5.0.1. Do i need to unroot before i flash the 5.1 factory image?
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No, Flashing will overwrite the rooted system you have now. You will have to root after flashing 5.1.
I will ask question in this thread as I don't want start new one.
I'm in uk. I have n6, I didn't do anything on it, no root, no unlocked bootloader.
Can I take OTA 5.1 , without worrying that it will stay in boot loop or I'm pretty safe to do so?
Also how long I have to wait for OTA 5.1 , I can see plenty of you on this forum had it already, but I even if I check for system updates it keep telling me system is up to date.
It can take a few weeks. And everything should be fine if you wait and accept it normally
rootSU said:
It can take a few weeks. And everything should be fine if you wait and accept it normally
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I hope you don't mind me asking a question here also? I hate to start another thread.
I'm on custom rom and kernel both still at 5.0.x. I've updated my bootloader and radio to 5.1. If I just wipe, flash the 5.1 rom, gapps and the 5.1 kernel, I don't have to flash the factory image's, they are baked into the rom and kernel already? Thanks in advance.
jackpollard said:
I hope you don't mind me asking a question here also? I hate to start another thread.
I'm on custom rom and kernel both still at 5.0.x. I've updated my bootloader and radio to 5.1. If I just wipe, flash the 5.1 rom, gapps and the 5.1 kernel, I don't have to flash the factory image's, they are baked into the rom and kernel already? Thanks in advance.
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I'm sorry, I do not quite understand your question.
rootSU said:
I'm sorry, I do not quite understand your question.
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Thanks for responding and sorry I was not clear. I'm currently on a custom Rom and kernel that are 5.0 based. I flashed the 5.1 radio and bootloader when they came out. I want to upgrade to the 5.1 versions of the custom Rom and kernel. Do I have to flash stock 5.1 then flash the custom stuff or can I just flash the 5.1 custom Rom and kernel and be at 5.1.
jackpollard said:
Thanks for responding and sorry I was not clear. I'm currently on a custom Rom and kernel that are 5.0 based. I flashed the 5.1 radio and bootloader when they came out. I want to upgrade to the 5.1 versions of the custom Rom and kernel. Do I have to flash stock 5.1 then flash the custom stuff or can I just flash the 5.1 custom Rom and kernel and be at 5.1.
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You just flashing your custom 5.1 ROM. It wouldn't make much sense to flash one ROM (i.e., a stock 5.1 ROM) and kernel to then immediately overwrite it with another ROM (i.e., your custom 5.1 ROM) and kernel, now would it?
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Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.
Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.
Groid said:
Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.
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It does affect the unlocked bootloader people, that is why some people are waiting for the sbf. If you update via the OTA, it will install the new bootloader, regardless of lock status. Once on this new 4.4.2 bootloader, it is impossible to flash any stock images before 4.4.2 (you cannot go back to 4.4 or 4.4.2).
But why would you want to go back if you have an unlocked bootloader already? I don't really see any reason to flash an image that is earlier than the latest... if I were Moto, I would let people flash the earliest system image of that version of android (4.4 kitkat in our case). This would rectify the root situation (because 4.2.2 isn't kitkat), and it would keep the people happy as well.
varxx said:
Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.
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You absolutely can manually flash the system image while having the 4.4 bootloader, you can also flash any 4.4.2 stock based ROM such as the 1052 European ROM that showed up today.
I was actually running the gummy ROM 4.4.2 while still on the 4.4 bootloader without any issue
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
Is it okay to flash the newest image (LMY74I) coming from LMY47O? I won't do any harm in skipping 5.0.1 will I?
Fastboot or recovery? Stock or custom rom? Best to fastboot the updated bootloader and radio if you are updating via custom recovery. I run stock and fastboot bootloader, radio, and system. Boot into recovery and then reboot. Before it reboots you will be prompted to install root. I use this updating method to keep my apps and settings.
mymusicathome said:
Fastboot or recovery? Stock or custom rom? Best to fastboot the updated bootloader and radio if you are updating via custom recovery. I run stock and fastboot bootloader, radio, and system. Boot into recovery and then reboot. Before it reboots you will be prompted to install root. I use this updating method to keep my apps and settings.
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That didn't answer my question. I'm wondering if I can skip 5.0.1 stock and go straight to 5.1 still stock.
Forerunner326 said:
That didn't answer my question. I'm wondering if I can skip 5.0.1 stock and go straight to 5.1 still stock.
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He couldn't answer your question because you were too vague. And still are.. What method are you using (now we know you're stock)? And will you be remaining unrooted?
rootSU said:
He couldn't answer your question because you were too vague. And still are.. What method are you using (now we know you're stock)? And will you be remaining unrooted?
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Unrooted, stock, 5.0 LMY47O to 5.1 LMY47I still stock and unrooted. I am sorry for the confusion.
Forerunner326 said:
Unrooted, stock, 5.0 LMY47O to 5.1 LMY47I still stock and unrooted. I am sorry for the confusion.
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If you're planning on unlocking the bootloader and flashing the full factory image then yes I that should be fine. Just a word of caution, relocking the bootloader has left some people in a bad place so do ensure if you just relock, that your phone is fully working and booting before hand.
rootSU said:
If you're planning on unlocking the bootloader and flashing the full factory image then yes I that should be fine. Just a word of caution, relocking the bootloader has left some people in a bad place so do ensure if you just relock, that your phone is fully working and booting before hand.
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Is this because oem unlocking was unchecked for those people?
rootSU said:
If you're planning on unlocking the bootloader and flashing the full factory image then yes I that should be fine. Just a word of caution, relocking the bootloader has left some people in a bad place so do ensure if you just relock, that your phone is fully working and booting before hand.
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Even if the device is rooted, all it will do is cause root to be lost correct?
Forerunner326 said:
Is this because oem unlocking was unchecked for those people?
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See this post on relocking instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59699095
Forerunner326 said:
Even if the device is rooted, all it will do is cause root to be lost correct?
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Yes but if its rooted, you'll never get OTA, so there's no point flashing the entire factory image.
If you flash the entire factory image and dont root, you'll get ota in future.
Though, I'm guessing g you'll be impatient anyway so its will be irrelevant. In which case since you'll probably just want to flash yourself and be rooted, why bother flashing the entire factory image? You dont need to flash recovery or bootloader... Just flash radio, system and boot.
rootSU said:
Yes but if its rooted, you'll never get OTA, so there's no point flashing the entire factory image.
If you flash the entire factory image and dont root, you'll get ota in future.
Though, I'm guessing g you'll be impatient anyway so its will be irrelevant. In which case since you'll probably just want to flash yourself and be rooted, why bother flashing the entire factory image? You dont need to flash recovery or bootloader... Just flash radio, system and boot.
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so if you are rooted on 5.0 stock and unlocked bootloader and no custom recoveries. How do you install the 5.1 update without losing everything?
theDXT said:
so if you are rooted on 5.0 stock and unlocked bootloader and no custom recoveries. How do you install the 5.1 update without losing everything?
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Flash everything from the factory image except the userdata.img
So I'm currently running BlissPop 5.0.2 and I wanna upgrade to a 5.1 ROM, but I was told I need to update bootloader and Radios, sorry I don't have much experience on this Subject, So what would be the easiest way to update both of these?? Thanx
And say the ROM I'm flashing doesn't work out for me for whatever reason and I need to Restore my nandroid backup (5.0.2 ROM) would I have to downgrade or whatever the bootloader and Radios again?? I'm confused lol thank you
owyheendn said:
So I'm currently running BlissPop 5.0.2 and I wanna upgrade to a 5.1 ROM, but I was told I need to update bootloader and Radios, sorry I don't have much experience on this Subject, So what would be the easiest way to update both of these?? Thanx
And say the ROM I'm flashing doesn't work out for me for whatever reason and I need to Restore my nandroid backup (5.0.2 ROM) would I have to downgrade or whatever the bootloader and Radios again?? I'm confused lol thank you
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easiest way to update is with fastboot and google images here is link to images https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
if you want to keep data or it wont flash follow this http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/12/running-into-the-dreaded-missing-system-img-error-flashing-android-5-0-factory-images-heres-how-to-get-around-it/ but you need to erase data because your on a custom rom and it probably wont be compatible with stock rom once you have updated everything reflash a custom recovery or dont flash the stock one at all then flash a 5.1 rom and good to go
What about all the Bootloader and radio zips that can be flashed through TWRP? I've read about people flashing the updates while still being on their 5.0.2 ROMs and everything still works fine, I don't have access to a computer I would like to just update straight from my phone without a Computer if possible? Think I could flash the Bootloader and radio updates through TWRP then reboot n after everything is all good go back and flash the new 5.1 ROM and gapps?
owyheendn said:
What about all the Bootloader and radio zips that can be flashed through TWRP? I've read about people flashing the updates while still being on their 5.0.2 ROMs and everything still works fine, I don't have access to a computer I would like to just update straight from my phone without a Computer if possible? Think I could flash the Bootloader and radio updates through TWRP then reboot n after everything is all good go back and flash the new 5.1 ROM and gapps?
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i don't know if anyone has twrp flashables for the updating bootloader and radios your searching is as good as mine here i am not experienced with that i always used factory images or ota updates to update those things.
but if you happen to have a backup of your stock rom in twrp you maybe able to just go back to stock then flash back your stock recovery then update with an ota but for an ota to work it has to be all stock no root no nothing just stock.
billycar11 said:
i don't know if anyone has twrp flashables for the updating bootloader and radios your searching is as good as mine here i am not experienced with that i always used factory images or ota updates to update those things.
but if you happen to have a backup of your stock rom in twrp you maybe able to just go back to stock then flash back your stock recovery then update with an ota but for an ota to work it has to be all stock no root no nothing just stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3066052
I made the mistake to install the new stagefright fix OTA on my rooted XT1095. Of course this made my phone stuck on boot. I was able to fix my phone by flashing this [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/rom-xt1095-flashable-stock-rom-t3185945”]stock rom[/URL] (Thanks AGISCI!).
I would like to return to 100% stock now by installing the latest recovery image provided by Motorola (L-5.1-LPE23.32-21.3 TMO) and than taking the stagefright OTA. Would this be safe without a chance of bricking my phone? My understanding is that I would brick my device by flashing an older modem version on my phone. Is there a way to find out what modem version my phone is currently on?
Thanks for your help!
It is NOT safe to take OTA after any downgrade. Even I did a similar thing. I did not un root properly. Waiting for stock images with the patch to be uploaded by moto
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I was rooted with Xposed on my XT1095 with 5.1. In order to do the StageFright patch, I downloaded the factory image and extracted just recovery.img and system.img. I flashed just those two images (using the fastboot version included in the factory image). I rebooted and had a nice, back-to-factory system structure. I then took the OTA normally. Once that was done, I flashed TWRP back on the phone, re-rooted, and installed Xposed. No problems at all.
For your situation, I'd try the same thing. Just flash recovery and system, boot up, and take the OTA. Then re-root.
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I was rooted with Xposed on my XT1095 with 5.1. In order to do the StageFright patch, I downloaded the factory image and extracted just recovery.img and system.img. I flashed just those two images (using the fastboot version included in the factory image). I rebooted and had a nice, back-to-factory system structure. I then took the OTA normally. Once that was done, I flashed TWRP back on the phone, re-rooted, and installed Xposed. No problems at all.
For your situation, I'd try the same thing. Just flash recovery and system, boot up, and take the OTA. Then re-root.
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Your situation is not the same. He downgraded which means taking the OTA is dangerous and can brick it. You never downgraded, you just flashed the same system and recovery that you already had which is why the OTA is safe for you.
For those that want the new patched version and are on downgraded systems, you can use this stock rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/rom-xt1095-flashable-stock-rom-t3185945
You can flash it with a custom recovery such as TWRP. This rom now has the stagefright patch baked into it and OTA is disabled on this rom to prevent bricks. You can use this until motorola releases the full firmware image officially.
AGISCI said:
Your situation is not the same. He downgraded which means taking the OTA is dangerous and can brick it. You never downgraded, you just flashed the same system and recovery that you already had which is why the OTA is safe for you.
For those that want the new patched version and are on downgraded systems, you can use this stock rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/rom-xt1095-flashable-stock-rom-t3185945
You can flash it with a custom recovery such as TWRP. This rom now has the stagefright patch baked into it and OTA is disabled on this rom to prevent bricks. You can use this until motorola releases the full firmware image officially.
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With all due respect, sir, I did note that our situations are different: "For your situation...". Also, I don't see where he mentioned downgrading. He installed your flashable 5.1 ROM and said he was holding off on flashing a modem due to fear of bricking.
And for the good of the community, thanks for putting together that patched stock ROM so others won't have to mess around with flashing stock images.
I seem to have inadvertently offended you. That was not my intention, I was merely trying to help out. So for that I apologize.
Oh and the title of the topic is where it says he downgraded.
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No sweat, simple misunderstanding
AGISCI said:
Your situation is not the same. He downgraded which means taking the OTA is dangerous and can brick it. You never downgraded, you just flashed the same system and recovery that you already had which is why the OTA is safe for you.
For those that want the new patched version and are on downgraded systems, you can use this stock rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/rom-xt1095-flashable-stock-rom-t3185945
You can flash it with a custom recovery such as TWRP. This rom now has the stagefright patch baked into it and OTA is disabled on this rom to prevent bricks. You can use this until motorola releases the full firmware image officially.
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Thanks for your help!
I’m not sure if I actually did downgrade my phone as I’m not sure what part of the OTA succeeded. Is there a way to lookup the modem version and ect. of my device to check if it would be safe to flash Motorola’s L-5.1-LPE23.32-21.3 TMO build?
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I just received my new Droid Turbo Blue from Best Buy and it came with 4.4.4 (build number: KDF21.128-15, system version: 21.21.15) so I think I'm lucky right? I'm coming from unlocked bl Samsung Galaxy S3 so all this mofo is new to me. What are the correct steps for upgrading to rooted 5.1 image? Do I need to flash rooted 4.4.4 image first or can I go directly to 5.1?
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I just received my new Droid Turbo Blue from Best Buy and it came with 4.4.4 (build number: KDF21.128-15, system version: 21.21.15) so I think I'm lucky right? I'm coming from unlocked bl Samsung Galaxy S3 so all this mofo is new to me. What are the correct steps for upgrading to rooted 5.1 image? Do I need to flash rooted 4.4.4 image first or can I go directly to 5.1?
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They all come with 4.4.4 stock. Do not accept the OTA upgrades if you want root. Check the (Original) Android Development sections for ROMs and methods.
deesto-xda said:
They all come with 4.4.4 stock. Do not accept the OTA upgrades if you want root. Check the (Original) Android Development sections for ROMs and methods.
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I know about not taking OTA but my question is do I need to flash rooted 4.4.4 image with mofo first or can I go directly to rooted 5.1 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/computerfreek274turbolollipop-t3147455 by flashing img files (boot, logo, etc) first and then system image?
edit: never mind... I flashed rooted 4.4.4 first just to be safe and flashed rooted 5.1 after that. Everything seems to be fine.
SotYPL said:
I know about not taking OTA but my question is do I need to flash rooted 4.4.4 image with mofo first or can I go directly to rooted 5.1 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/computerfreek274turbolollipop-t3147455 by flashing img files (boot, logo, etc) first and then system image?
edit: never mind... I flashed rooted 4.4.4 first just to be safe and flashed rooted 5.1 after that. Everything seems to be fine.
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To answer your question, no. As long as you flashed the supplemental 5.1 images (recovery, boot, etc.) before you flashed the 5.1 system image with mofo, you would have been fine. Glad it's working for you though.