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[Q] Another way to get 4.4.2?

Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.

Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.

Groid said:
Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.
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It does affect the unlocked bootloader people, that is why some people are waiting for the sbf. If you update via the OTA, it will install the new bootloader, regardless of lock status. Once on this new 4.4.2 bootloader, it is impossible to flash any stock images before 4.4.2 (you cannot go back to 4.4 or 4.4.2).
But why would you want to go back if you have an unlocked bootloader already? I don't really see any reason to flash an image that is earlier than the latest... if I were Moto, I would let people flash the earliest system image of that version of android (4.4 kitkat in our case). This would rectify the root situation (because 4.2.2 isn't kitkat), and it would keep the people happy as well.

varxx said:
Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.
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You absolutely can manually flash the system image while having the 4.4 bootloader, you can also flash any 4.4.2 stock based ROM such as the 1052 European ROM that showed up today.
I was actually running the gummy ROM 4.4.2 while still on the 4.4 bootloader without any issue
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

[Q] Updating DIRECTLY from 4.2.2 to 4.4.3 (Unlocked+Rooted)

So here's the deal, I unlocked my T-Mobile Moto X bootloader through Motorola's website about a year ago or so. I also rooted and didn't bother updating afterwards to anything since I had everything working perfectly for me. Now I need to update my 4.2.2 Moto X to 4.4.3 (or really anything >=4.3 just so I can use my Moto 360 that'll be arriving soon).
My question is, with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, TWRP 2.6.3.1, Xposed-installed Moto X, can I go ahead and flash a stock 4.4.3 ROM (for example from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675) and just call it a day?
I've been reading past threads and stuff to get back into the loop, but I just can'f find anything to answer me the simple question of updating an unlocked+rooted 4.2.2->4.4+ while keeping root. Just the simple question of, if I get a stock 4.4 image and flash it on my phone, will everything be okay?
I no longer have the passion and interest to constantly be fiddling with kernels, ROMs, and little hacks with my phone like I used to with my OG Droid and, to a lesser extent, with my Galaxy Nexus (plus I feel like it's gotten significantly less easy since those OG days).
I know (i.e. 90% sure) that one way to do what I want (kinda) is RSDLite/manually go back to stock without root on 4.2.2 and then accept the OTA, but certainly it has to be easier than that right? What happened to the days where I can just find a new Gingerbread ROM for my Froyo Droid and just flash it right then and there? Now everything is "go back to stock and do these convoluted steps."
(I'm sorry I'm ranting, I'm just really tired at the moment haha)
Thank you all, hopefully, for the help!

If you don't care about retaining your data, grab the 4.4.3 fxz and unzip it. Follow the directions for returning back to stock here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 but replace the files to be flashed with the files from the 4.4.3 fxz. Not sure where you got the idea that you need to go back to stock. Word of caution, once on 4.4.3 there's no going back to an older version.

I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?

RGNDI said:
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate version recovery again and then flashing supersu.

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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate vision recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question

RGNDI said:
OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
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Yeah that would work as long as your radio is compatible with the rom. The rom you shared earlier should be fine. Just don't downgrade to anything pre 4.4 as that can cause issues because of partition sizes (or so I've heard). But after that I wouldn't take any OTA's cause your bootloader would be incompatible with the OTA and possibly cause a brick. If I were you I'd revert to stock and take the long way to 4.4.3 just so I can get the OTA for when Android L comes out. In fact thats what I plan on doing if the Sunshine bootloader unlock is successful. But if you don't care about that then everything should be fine.

[Q] 5.1 OTA rooted

I have a N6 rooted and I am waiting for the OTA rollout for 5.1 and I am wondering if i need to unroot before doing the 5.1 OTA?

zd913 said:
I have a N6 rooted and I am waiting for the OTA rollout for 5.1 and I am wondering if i need to unroot before doing the 5.1 OTA?
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To take an OTA, you'll need a 100% stock system image and be on stock recovery.
To be sure the OTA updates your system, your best option would be to fastboot flash the stock system.img and recovery.img from the stock 5.0.1 factory images (assuming you are on 5.0.1 now).
You could, just as easy, stop waiting and download/flash the 5.1 factory images manually, not flashing the userdata.img to keep your data intact (must be bootloader unlocked of course), then re-root.

tcrews said:
To take an OTA, you'll need a 100% stock system image and be on stock recovery.
To be sure the OTA updates your system, your best option would be to fastboot flash the stock system.img and recovery.img from the stock 5.0.1 factory images (assuming you are on 5.0.1 now).
You could, just as easy, stop waiting and download/flash the 5.1 factory images manually, not flashing the userdata.img to keep your data intact (must be bootloader unlocked of course), then re-root.
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Yes i am on 5.0.1. Do i need to unroot before i flash the 5.1 factory image?

zd913 said:
Yes i am on 5.0.1. Do i need to unroot before i flash the 5.1 factory image?
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No, Flashing will overwrite the rooted system you have now. You will have to root after flashing 5.1.

I will ask question in this thread as I don't want start new one.
I'm in uk. I have n6, I didn't do anything on it, no root, no unlocked bootloader.
Can I take OTA 5.1 , without worrying that it will stay in boot loop or I'm pretty safe to do so?
Also how long I have to wait for OTA 5.1 , I can see plenty of you on this forum had it already, but I even if I check for system updates it keep telling me system is up to date.

It can take a few weeks. And everything should be fine if you wait and accept it normally

rootSU said:
It can take a few weeks. And everything should be fine if you wait and accept it normally
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I hope you don't mind me asking a question here also? I hate to start another thread.
I'm on custom rom and kernel both still at 5.0.x. I've updated my bootloader and radio to 5.1. If I just wipe, flash the 5.1 rom, gapps and the 5.1 kernel, I don't have to flash the factory image's, they are baked into the rom and kernel already? Thanks in advance.

jackpollard said:
I hope you don't mind me asking a question here also? I hate to start another thread.
I'm on custom rom and kernel both still at 5.0.x. I've updated my bootloader and radio to 5.1. If I just wipe, flash the 5.1 rom, gapps and the 5.1 kernel, I don't have to flash the factory image's, they are baked into the rom and kernel already? Thanks in advance.
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I'm sorry, I do not quite understand your question.

rootSU said:
I'm sorry, I do not quite understand your question.
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Thanks for responding and sorry I was not clear. I'm currently on a custom Rom and kernel that are 5.0 based. I flashed the 5.1 radio and bootloader when they came out. I want to upgrade to the 5.1 versions of the custom Rom and kernel. Do I have to flash stock 5.1 then flash the custom stuff or can I just flash the 5.1 custom Rom and kernel and be at 5.1.

jackpollard said:
Thanks for responding and sorry I was not clear. I'm currently on a custom Rom and kernel that are 5.0 based. I flashed the 5.1 radio and bootloader when they came out. I want to upgrade to the 5.1 versions of the custom Rom and kernel. Do I have to flash stock 5.1 then flash the custom stuff or can I just flash the 5.1 custom Rom and kernel and be at 5.1.
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You just flashing your custom 5.1 ROM. It wouldn't make much sense to flash one ROM (i.e., a stock 5.1 ROM) and kernel to then immediately overwrite it with another ROM (i.e., your custom 5.1 ROM) and kernel, now would it?

[Q] Return 4.4.3 to stock. Flash 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 system and recovery?

I just bought my son a used Moto X (2013). He's already set it up and installed his apps. When he accepted an OTA update (4.4.3 to 4.4.4) it failed and we discovered that TRWP recovery was installed. He would like to revert to a stock recovery so that he can accept Lollipop OTA when available.
I can easily install 4.4.4 with the images and instructions from Motorola but this would cause him extra work as he would have to set up the phone again.
I assume I can just flash the stock system and recovery image but Motorola only offers the images for 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 not the 4.4.3 that he has installed.
Would it be safe to install one of those? Which one? Would that preserve the apps he's already installed?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: FWIW Phone is an XT1053 Developer Edition

You would want to flash the 4.4.4 factory images. Just don't downgrade android versions or you will brick.

Travisdroidx2,
I'll flash 4.4.4 then. Do you think it would be safe to flash only the system and recovery files? I wonder if that would cause issues or possibly brick it when Lollipop OTA becomes available. If it sounds even a little risky I'll just flash all the 4.4.4 files per Motorola's guidance and let my son re-setup the phone.
Thanks for your help.

mikeck said:
Travisdroidx2,
I'll flash 4.4.4 then. Do you think it would be safe to flash only the system and recovery files? I wonder if that would cause issues or possibly brick it when Lollipop OTA becomes available. If it sounds even a little risky I'll just flash all the 4.4.4 files per Motorola's guidance and let my son re-setup the phone.
Thanks for your help.
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If you flash all of the 4.4.4 and don't change system files or recovery you will be on the upgrade path for the ota. The brick happens when the moto boot.img and gpt.bin images get downgraded. Then people end up with mismatched partions and brick on a ota. If you flash all of 4.4.4 and leave it as is you will be fine to take the update. Then if you want to root after just flash twrp and root. But flashing the 4.4.4 sbf will get you on the upgrade path again.

Does anyone have the factory images? I tried to download from Motorola but it says download failed everything

Devans32 said:
Does anyone have the factory images? I tried to download from Motorola but it says download failed everything
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347

I just flashed the Motorola 4.4.4 image, everything appears to be fine. The only problem I encountered was that an XML file should have been included in the Motorola download with specific flashing instructions for my device. My download was missing this so I downloaded the 4.4.2 image and found the XML there. It differs slightly from the flashing instructions on the Motorola images download page.
Thanks for the help, I've attached the XML file.

Question about flashing 6.0

Hey guys, sorry if this has been answered prior (I couldn't find a thread about it).
I just bought a new Nexus 6 off Swappa, and I'm currently using it on T-Mobile.
The build number is LVY47H on 5.1, which I've read is a Project Fi build.
I'm wanting to flash up to 6.0, and my question is: do I have to first flash up to 5.1.1, or can I go straight from my current build to the 6.0 factory images?
I've done a ton of rooting and flashing with Samsung devices, so I'm familiar with most things, but not entirely sure what to do with a Nexus device.
Thanks!

JDane07 said:
I'm wanting to flash up to 6.0, and my question is: do I have to first flash up to 5.1.1, or can I go straight from my current build to the 6.0 factory images?
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You can flash the latest Factory image. You will notice that the flashall.bat will only flash bootloader and radio. The other files needs to be extracted and flashed manually with fastboot. Than rooting needs a modified kernel, supersu 2.5x and twrp recovery.
MM 6.0 stock kernel sets selinux enforcing and that may cause issues with apps not updated yet for MM.
The best method is (imo) after flashing m-bootloader and m-radio: flash a custom rom that is already rooted.