Quick question- if I get this phone from Verizon, can I run `fastboot oem unlock` on it to unlock the bootloader?
The reason I ask is that everything I've read online tells me that I can, but I just talked to some customer service reps at a Verizon store nearby who insisted that I couldn't (kind of--they never really answered my question). They practically got in a fist fight with me when I asked them; it was the weirdest thing--I just asked that one question, and they acted like I pulled a gun on them and practically threw me out of the store. I've never been treated anything close to that bad as a customer in my life; I was speechless.
Since I couldn't get an answer from them, does anyone here have one?
yes. its a nexus, and thats part of being a nexus
VZW reps stink. BOn the other hand, what you were asking them is how to void your warranty. So of course you got treated that way.
As said, it is Nexus device.
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fastboot oem unlock
to your hearts content. Just remember to enable oem unlock and adb debugging in developer options.
Yes you can. Just cause its on Verizon doesn't mean anything. On the old galaxy nexus you could unlock the bootloader using that command. Same here. I unlocked mine within minutes of buying it. Unlocked it, flashed the supersu zip by chainfire, then flashed the newest TWRP using the fastboot flash recovery filename.img command. Good to go. The only thing I can't do is get xposed framework to work. Ugh. Making me mad.
I just want to clarify some things. So all the Roms, kernels and recoveries will work on the Verizon variant?
highdro said:
I just want to clarify some things. So all the Roms, kernels and recoveries will work on the Verizon variant?
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Yes. Unlike other devices, every version of the Nexus 6 is exactly the same. All the chipsets, radios, etc. All these roms will work on our device.
nicholi2789 said:
Yes. Unlike other devices, every version of the Nexus 6 is exactly the same. All the chipsets, radios, etc. All these roms will work on our device.
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OK cool. I just didn't know if anything needed to be updated to work with our phones since it is on 5.1 out of the box.
Thanks a ton guys! Awesome, it'll work. I was 99% sure I could unlock it (cf. "Don't be evil"), but the semi-coherent things the Verizon reps were saying were making me doubt.
Yeah, I could care less about voiding my warranty, but the reps didn't seem to be in the mood for me to say that haha.
I honestly don't believe unlocking the boot loader voids the warranty. Googles own instructions to update your system include unlocking your boot loader.
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Intub8 said:
I honestly don't believe unlocking the boot loader voids the warranty. Googles own instructions to update your system include unlocking your boot loader.
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Even if it did you can simply lock it and nobody knows otherwise
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Xposed is not compatible with any version of Lollipop 5.X unless something has changed recently. Having just gotten the 6 after running what seemed like forever on a non rooted Note 4 I'm a little rusty..
Verizon reps are probably butt holes because there are so many people bringing their phones in that are in boot loops because they are screwing with them not knowing what they're doing. If I worked at the Verizon store I would tell people it didn't work either. I'm certain it would save me time and effort in the future.
PSA: if you relock your Nexus 6 at the wrong time you will be in a boot loop. unless you're a secret agent or returning your phone for some reason just leave it unlocked
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Alright I just bought it and unlocked it in two minutes lol.
I just turned on Developer Options, turned on "USB Debugging" and "Enable OEM Unlock", plugged it into my computer, ran `adb devices` and checked the box on the popup dialog on my phone in order to allow USB debugging with my computer, ran `adb reboot bootloader`, and then ran `sudo fastboot oem unlock` and hit the power button. Way too easy.
I just did in two minutes what I couldn't do in two years with my Galaxy Note II. Google's so awesome. :highfive:
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It appears that there is a guy who is interning at Motorola that wants to get ahold of some bigwigs and help voice our frustration. Here is a link if you have any ideas, please share them!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/xty65/i_am_interning_at_a_major_fortune_500_company_who/
Why wouldn't they? They'll only lose the majority of the tech-geek community to other brands
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Why wouldn't they? They'll only lose the majority of the tech-geek community to other brands
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Some speculate that they hold a special contract with Verizon. This contract basically says: keep your bootloaders unlocked and you will be our flagship phone company. You will be in all our ads.
I just hope someone could post a convincing argument for that intern to use to further our cause.
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Some speculate that they hold a special contract with Verizon. This contract basically says: keep your bootloaders unlocked and you will be our flagship phone company. You will be in all our ads.
I just hope someone could post a convincing argument for that intern to use to further our cause.
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Why would they need to have a locked bootloader to have that contract?
VZW always said it ws for the "health" of the network. That rooted devices would cause it harm.
Well, one, the Nexus is unlocked so where is the concern there? and 2. I haven't heard of any gnex causing harm to the network.
I'm guessing its because when we all found wifi tether on the OG, the network suffered. lol
Here is the reason boot loaders are locked...
...and are likely to remain locked. It's because they don't want you messing with it. Read throughout the various Android forums and you will find over and over again people talking about how they screwed up their phone and got the carrier to replace it for them. I've seen some practically bragging about how they've screwed Verizon and got them to replace the phone 3 and 4 and more times. As long as this keeps happening, they will resist allowing unlocked boot loaders.
About the only way it will ever happen is if they went to a scheme like Asus has with it's transformer series tablets. Basically they lock it. But they also provide an unlocking tool. This unlocking tool basically has warnings all over it that say that if you do it, your warranty and any claim to support are void...and we do not want to hear from you. But even then on the Transformer Prime forum on XDA you hear people complaining about problems with their unlocked device and seeking advice on how to re-lock it so they can screw the company into taking it back (Asus also made unlocking an irreversible process).
For the manufacturers and carriers there is just no incentive to unlock them. By locking them they cede the enthusiast market to a large extent but that market is a drop in the bucket compared to the market as a whole.
vbhokiefan said:
VZW always said it ws for the "health" of the network. That rooted devices would cause it harm.
Well, one, the Nexus is unlocked so where is the concern there? and 2. I haven't heard of any gnex causing harm to the network.
I'm guessing its because when we all found wifi tether on the OG, the network suffered. lol
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Well nowadays all data plans are being metered anyways. If I buy 2GB per month why does Verizon care if its used on my laptop instead of my phone for example. There was a recent FCC lawsuit against Verizon for separate tethering charges because it went against some agreement they had when they bought the 4G spectrum.
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...and are likely to remain locked. It's because they don't want you messing with it. Read throughout the various Android forums and you will find over and over again people talking about how they screwed up their phone and got the carrier to replace it for them. I've seen some practically bragging about how they've screwed Verizon and got them to replace the phone 3 and 4 and more times. As long as this keeps happening, they will resist allowing unlocked boot loaders.
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Simple, unlocking your bootloader voids the warranty and the user would agree to this before running the factory bootloader unlock program. There would also have to be an easy way to tell if the bootloader had been unlocked on a bricked phone.
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Simple, unlocking your bootloader voids the warranty and the user would agree to this before running the factory bootloader unlock program. There would also have to be an easy way to tell if the bootloader had been unlocked on a bricked phone.
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From a Verizon point of view, this remains problematic. The issue is that a user with a hardware problem that lost warranty support is likely to still be angry at Verizon for not supporting the phone; even somebody with a software issue who gets no help could express anger at Verizon and decide to leave the network for another carrier (where the cycle start again, probably.) It's a matter of control - it's hard enough supporting a ton of phones, it makes it even harder when you cannot even predict what's on the phone. And from Verizon's point of view, their brand is strong enough that they feel that they can exert this control without angering enough users to matter.
(Still, the reasons I listed above are easily solved if the OEMs provide all of the tools required to bring a phone back to stock...)
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From a Verizon point of view, this remains problematic. The issue is that a user with a hardware problem that lost warranty support is likely to still be angry at Verizon for not supporting the phone; even somebody with a software issue who gets no help could express anger at Verizon and decide to leave the network for another carrier (where the cycle start again, probably.) It's a matter of control - it's hard enough supporting a ton of phones, it makes it even harder when you cannot even predict what's on the phone. And from Verizon's point of view, their brand is strong enough that they feel that they can exert this control without angering enough users to matter.
(Still, the reasons I listed above are easily solved if the OEMs provide all of the tools required to bring a phone back to stock...)
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...and are likely to remain locked. It's because they don't want you messing with it. Read throughout the various Android forums and you will find over and over again people talking about how they screwed up their phone and got the carrier to replace it for them. I've seen some practically bragging about how they've screwed Verizon and got them to replace the phone 3 and 4 and more times. As long as this keeps happening, they will resist allowing unlocked boot loaders.
About the only way it will ever happen is if they went to a scheme like Asus has with it's transformer series tablets. Basically they lock it. But they also provide an unlocking tool. This unlocking tool basically has warnings all over it that say that if you do it, your warranty and any claim to support are void...and we do not want to hear from you. But even then on the Transformer Prime forum on XDA you hear people complaining about problems with their unlocked device and seeking advice on how to re-lock it so they can screw the company into taking it back (Asus also made unlocking an irreversible process).
For the manufacturers and carriers there is just no incentive to unlock them. By locking them they cede the enthusiast market to a large extent but that market is a drop in the bucket compared to the market as a whole.
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I don't really like this argument though, because most of those bricks are CAUSED by the locked bootloaders and other "security" put into place. These phones are just computers with radios inside. I've never bricked my (desktop or laptop) computer, and neither have most people, because computers have been designed such that the process that brings the computer up (the BIOS) is simple, reliable, and will load anything you tell it to, negating the need to mess with it.
The OG Droid was borderline software unbrickable, because you could leave the stock bootloader in place, and the stock bootloader was able to get you back home (SBF) by itself. If all phones were built like this today, and manufacturer's had a utility to restore the phone back to stock available on their website, the people returning devices due to softbricking would probably go way down, because a softbrick would be no big deal.
Hi, I'm about to upgrade from a ****ty Galaxy SII Skyrocket to this device, and I'm wondering if there's any known issues, like GPS lag, cell service not working, those sorts of things. I know how to use adb and android (was a dev for the HTC One V), but if there's something *special* with this phone, I'd like to know ahead of time.
Thanks!
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Just browse the general and Q&A sections for discussion on certain things.
Some have issues with whatever and some don't. Best to read for yourself. ?
If you want full root, stay away from Verizon, at&t and Republic Wireless. With those you can't unlock the bootloader. If you get something with 4.4.3 or less on it, you can PAY for a bootloader unlock, maybe it will work. If you are on 4.4.4, There's no root for locked bootloaders on those 3 carriers. And no temp roots either.
That's the biggest thing to know in advance.
Thanks for the tip! I looked around the QnA and saw how some can't unlock the boot loader. That must suck. The model I'm getting is T-Mobile OEM factory unlocked (so I can use my provider, Immix) so I should be able to get the unlock code very easily from Motorola. I saw something about a camera update, what's that about?
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Thanks for the tip! I looked around the QnA and saw how some can't unlock the boot loader. That must suck. The model I'm getting is T-Mobile OEM factory unlocked (so I can use my provider, Immix) so I should be able to get the unlock code very easily from Motorola. I saw something about a camera update, what's that about?
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Yup, you should be able to unlock the bootloader. A warning tho... It does technically void the warranty.
The camera is average... Tho even the best camera phones out there are mediocre and generally no where near as good as even a very cheap camera camera. Personally, I'd never let the performance of a phone camera play into my decision to buy which phone.
The best way to ensure good pics when you know in advance you are going to be taking pics... Is bring a camera. Phone cameras are always going to disappoint when it matters most.
That's just my opinion though. My phone is just a camera for those spur of the moment times... And my expectations are low... But at least I got something. ?
I'm okay with voiding the warranty, since I almost never have any hardware issues, and software issues are (almost) always fixable.
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Best phone I've ever owned. Stock, locked. Unrooted
I just got my nexus 6 and my question is is it a developer phone?Or does it need to be unlocked for that?
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I just got my nexus 6 and my question is is it a developer phone?Or does it need to be unlocked for that?
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Its a developer phone, you do need to unlock the boot loader via fast boot using fastboot OEM unlock. That's the best part about the Nexus.
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Its a developer phone, you do need to unlock the boot loader via fast boot using fastboot OEM unlock. That's the best part about the Nexus.
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You also need to tick the checkbox under "developer options" that says "allow oem unlock". if you dont know how to access developer options or for anyone else its in Settings>about phone>build number. Just tap the Buld Number box about 4 or 5 times till it says "congratulations! you are now a developer"
And yes congratulations because you now truly have the right to call yourself a developer.... *cough*
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You also need to tick the checkbox under "developer options" that says "allow oem unlock". if you dont know how to access developer options or for anyone else its in Settings>about phone>build number. Just tap the Buld Number box about 4 or 5 times till it says "congratulations! you are now a developer"
And yes congratulations because you now truly have the right to call yourself a developer.... *cough*
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I've seen other people not even bother with this step, but its a good precaution. I didn't do it when I unlocked my Nexus 9 and it was fine, but I did check it on my Nexus 6.
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I've seen other people not even bother with this step, but its a good precaution. I didn't do it when I unlocked my Nexus 9 and it was fine, but I did check it on my Nexus 6.
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It developer phone even it from att?
And i was shock i seen no att on it
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It developer phone even it from att?
And i was shock i seen no att on it
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Its the same phone except it has a Att splash screen and ringtones (and logo on the back) . you can unlock and root it just like any other nexus phone. Then you can remove the Att splash screen and ringtones and have it be branding free. You can also flash the factory images if you want to once you unlock the BL using fastboot.
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I just got my nexus 6 and my question is is it a developer phone?Or does it need to be unlocked for that?
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Just so we are all on the same page, what is your definition of "developer phone"?
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Just so we are all on the same page, what is your definition of "developer phone"?
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It's a device meant for developers to test their apps, roms, kernels on as every thing is open source and can be easily flashed back to stock.
Does it really matter what it's called? The nexus is more of a reference device for Google to show other manufacturers what a android device should look or model after in terms of specifications.
Regardless of any carrier, it is bootloader unlockable.
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It is unclear (to me) if the op actually wants a developer phone, or is wondering if the N6 is a good phone for non-developers.
I have met folks who look at my N5 or N6 and ask me "why would you get a developer phone" (since I don't actively develop for Android) - and I have to explain to them that the phone is great for daily use as well.
Also, if an app developer is looking for a device to test on, they can probably get by with a cheaper Moto G/X too.
Hence the question about what op is thinking when op said "developer phone"
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It is unclear (to me) if the op actually wants a developer phone, or is wondering if the N6 is a good phone for non-developers.
I have met folks who look at my N5 or N6 and ask me "why would you get a developer phone" (since I don't actively develop for Android) - and I have to explain to them that the phone is great for daily use as well.
Also, if an app developer is looking for a device to test on, they can probably get by with a cheaper Moto G/X too.
Hence the question about what op is thinking when op said "developer phone"
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The beginnings of the Nexus brand was meant for "developers" as the device was strictly available to only people who had a Developer Account via Android Market (now known as Google Play Store). If you did not have a Developer account, you could not get your hands on a Nexus One unless you paid for a developer account. Yes you can buy a developer account (~$25) onto your account and buy it.
From that point onwards with the next releases of Nexus devices, it became more and more available to the masses bringing availability to non-developers. In my eyes, I don't see Nexus 6 as a developer device exclusively but also as a consumer device. The Nexus brand is a reference device to show people "clean" Android with installing only the essentials being stock Android. In the past couple of years, Google started to bloat their ROM up with more and more Google Apps that people don't use (e.g. Google Earth, Google Fit, Google Videos, Google Books, etc).
Nowadays, the Nexus device is device that satisfies everybody.
It satisfies the developer because everything is open in terms of binaries, factory images, etc.
It satisfies the consumer because the consumer is at the front of the line for Android updates without all the clutter that you'd see on manufacturer ROMs.
I don't understand OP. You don't need to unlock anything to make the Nexus 6 a developer phone. The Nexus 6 is just a phone, use it the way you want to use it.
The beginnings of the Nexus brand was meant for "developers" as the device was strictly available to only people who had a Developer Account via Android Market (now known as Google Play Store). If you did not have a Developer account, you could not get your hands on a Nexus One unless you paid for a developer account. Yes you can buy a developer account (~$25) onto your account and buy it.
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This isn't 100%. I purchased my Nexus One at www.google.com/phone (now defunct) without a Developer's Account. Once Google stopped selling it to the regular public, they made it available only to those with developer's accounts.
http://gizmodo.com/5605479/how-you-can-still-buy-a-nexus-one-from-google
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This isn't 100%. I purchased my Nexus One at www.google.com/phone (now defunct) without a Developer's Account. Once Google stopped selling it to the regular public, they made it available only to those with developer's accounts.
http://gizmodo.com/5605479/how-you-can-still-buy-a-nexus-one-from-google
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Oh right, I forgot about that PaisanNYC is correct.
The only way to get it was to get it from T-Mobile with a contract in the States.
Kinda crazy looking back N1 was that same price and we can get a N5 even cheaper that a N1 with superior specs.
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Kinda crazy looking back N1 was that same price and we can get a N5 even cheaper that a N1 with superior specs.
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The N1 really was high end for that time period. And I actually used to love having the LED rollerball. Now I cant see how i used it?
So I understand that we have locked bootloader but it seems that these forums are dying. This is the first LG phone ive ever owned but it really feels dead even compared to my Galaxy note 3. It's like nobody is even trying to do anything with it and its made me quite sad. Anyone have any suggestions as to how to make this phone feel fun and different like I remember doing to my Galaxy s2 or s3? I miss the good old days when a new rom came out every week and new exploits came out almost instantly.
Since there is no official unlock method, it's very tough to develop. Even if there was a workaround to unlock, these money hungry CDMA carriers lock us out of fastboot and adb, so it wouldn't be possible either way. I really wish I would've waited for the new Nexus phones or the OnePlus Two.
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Since there is no official unlock method, it's very tough to develop. Even if there was a workaround to unlock, these money hungry CDMA carriers lock us out of fastboot and adb, so it wouldn't be possible either way. I really wish I would've waited for the new Nexus phones or the OnePlus Two.
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The one plus 2 isn't for CDMA, but yeah, the nexus phone would have been great.
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The one plus 2 isn't for CDMA, but yeah, the nexus phone would have been great.
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Wasn't saying it was. I'm saying I wish I would've waited for it. I didn't want a carrier phone to begin with, but the G4 made me want it. Big mistake
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I know how you feel. I had mine since release and though I think its an all around great phone root for the most part has done me justice. I just think the general idea of bootloader locking is bull**** and should be illegal. I would love a nexus phone but I will not buy into googles push to cloud storage and their services. I can deal with no removable battery but non expandable memory is a no go. Honestly if/when we get android M on the G3 and we get a custom rom I will go back to it provided the bluetooth issues are ironed out. But thats just my 2 cents
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I know how you feel. I had mine since release and though I think its an all around great phone root for the most part has done me justice. I just think the general idea of bootloader locking is bull**** and should be illegal. I would love a nexus phone but I will not buy into googles push to cloud storage and their services. I can deal with no removable battery but non expandable memory is a no go. Honestly if/when we get android M on the G3 and we get a custom rom I will go back to it provided the bluetooth issues are ironed out. But thats just my 2 cents
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Bootloader unlock, illegal... Really? Please don't be that guy. We bought the phone, we should be able to do what we want to it. That's like buying a car and it being illegal to change your own oil.
You might want to read that again. Where did I state that UN locking it should be illegal. I said the whole boot loader locking thing is bs ie we should not be locked out from it.
I called LG and talk to a tech who told me if I send my phone to them they would unlock my bootloader but it would void my warranty and of course I already knew that but I was just shocked that they said yes instead of telling me no.
It wasn't available before, my phone is still carrier locked. It updated to Android 13 last night. And now I can toggle OEM unlock under dev settings. Should I send it?
Interesting, are you SIM unlocked already? I bought mine from OP so I didn't have to deal with this, but a friend just got theirs from TMobile so I'd be interested to know if this actually works. I wouldn't want to tell you what to do it as it's your money, but if you have a backup phone and you're within your TMobile return window I'd imagine there's no harm in trying. You'll have to enter bootloader to run the `oem unlock` command to fully test if it works
I was able to unlocked mine out of the box when I got mine, and I'm on A12 still. You might have to do more than just the oem unlock, as you still have to get the OP token that takes exactly 2 weeks. Aside from that I haven't done anything but root for a few apps like superfreeze and AFwall. I'm about to sell this thing as it's noticeably less responsive and more laggy than my OP8t. Not to mention I don't even think you can restore anything without MSM. So if you wanna try root, it'll probably most likely work just don't mess around kernels and whatever else.
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noticeably less responsive and more laggy than my OP8t.
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Oh man, I'm so glad to see it's not just me. I went from an 8T to 10Pro, and it seriously felt like a downgrade. Like an idiot, I traded my 8T at TMO so I got the carrier-locked one. That'll never happen again.