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T-Mobile, Los Angeles fake "HSPA+"???

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Carrier: T-Mobile USA
Phone: Nexus One..
Running: Cyanogen 6 RC2 + Froyo Radio + Amon recovery
I seriously don't understand what's going on. I live in Los Angeles and when I run the Speedtest.net application on my N1, I NEVER have seen my download speed go above 2.0 Mb/s on "HSPA".
I see people posting pictures of their speed tests in Las Vegas getting more than 4.0 download and 1.5 upload.
Is something wrong with my phone here? I run tests infront of friends and look retarded when my speed level dips down to 0.98 and there running some crappy AT&T thats beating me!!!
(Is GPS supposed to be on when selecting a server because its selecting some Arizona servers when im in Los Angeles!!!)
Thanks for the 'noob' help. =P

Which FroYo radio? Have you tried the Korean radio?
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Honestly, Los Angeles and all of SoCal have very inconsistent signal strength, this is even more true the further West you are. The closer you are to the beach the worse signal will be either because you're just too far from a tower or there's just a big ****ing hill blocking your signal. Vegas is just big open flat space in the middle of the desert vs. SoCal's endless maze of mini mountains and valleys. I was just out in Vegas last month also, and my speeds were only slighly better than LA (but at the same time reception is not the best inside casinos).
check if you're in a dead zone: http://deadcellzones.com/t-mobile.html
According to the T-Mo HSPA+ zone info these CA cities currently should have live HSPA+:
Anaheim
Burbank
Glendale
Irvine
Los Angeles
Long Beach
Ontario
Future:
Oakland
Sacramento
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose
Now, anyone from LA knows "Los Angeles" is a pretty vague description of it's coverage. My guess is it's probably limited to downtown LA since you could be in the middle of Hollywood and have a "Los Angeles" mailing address/zip code. However, I live on the border of Burbank and I've never gotten above 3.5Mb down, and only once or twice. I average around 2-2.5; and that's with -60 to -70dbm, arguably some of the strongest coverage I get in SoCal. Actually, when I head into Burbank for errands or in the direction of the airport, signal is terrible.
If you're speed is really just unbearably ****ty compared to what it should be on just HSPA, not HSPA+ you should call T-Mobile and hopefully you get someone on the phone who can do some of their OTA black magic.
Edit: Just noticed the T-Mobile website explicitly lists those live cities as having HSPA+ coverage. The best I get anywhere in LA is HSDPA, even Burbank - so I'll be calling up T-Mobile today myself to see what's up with that.

I knnow for sure la description is vague. I live in Pomona and the fastest I get is a 1.5mb/1mb. Last week I was super surprised a the speed I was gettinng in Rowland heights! I was at a restaurant. And I wanted to check my speeds .. I was getting almost 5mb/3mb. That's the fastest I've seen on my nexus.

bestofrhcp said:
I knnow for sure la description is vague. I live in Pomona and the fastest I get is a 1.5mb/1mb. Last week I was super surprised a the speed I was gettinng in Rowland heights! I was at a restaurant. And I wanted to check my speeds .. I was getting almost 5mb/3mb. That's the fastest I've seen on my nexus.
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what the hell, I get less than 1mb/s download from there >.< actually anywhere for that matter... what should I do? call t-mobile? anyone know what I should ask them?

Even though the software (HSPA+) is in place for Los Angeles area but some of back haul has not been upgraded yet.

Perhaps the problem is that our phones simply do not support HSPA+, which they do not. They support up to ~7M down on HSDPA.
T-mobile is just running around saying they've upgraded their network and to enjoy faster speeds, yet at the same time is saying the G2 will be the first device on their network to be able to even use HSPA+.
Anyone care to clue me in on how a HSDPA rated phone is going to have improved network speed on a network it isn't compatible with and isn't completely live?

I got a text message saying that its up in my area I am in the west valley of the san fernando valley I get 4 dl speeds at work in calabasas but at home in encino I get 700 kb at best I think its tower to tower
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Yeah this is nuts. I live in Glendale and I never see above 1.0mb/s....just ridiculous.
Mountains and everything are ruining the reception and yeah I love closer to the water!
What the heck is going on Tmo!?!?

akalior88 said:
I got a text message saying that its up in my area I am in the west valley of the san fernando valley I get 4 dl speeds at work in calabasas but at home in encino I get 700 kb at best I think its tower to tower
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Just today?
I'm in the valley on the edge of burbank/studio city and get decent speed, but not HSPA+ and yeah encino/sherman oaks sucks ass out but the 405/101.
Your phone will hate you as it switches from 3G-Edge all day in that area.
mortal300 said:
Yeah this is nuts. I live in Glendale and I never see above 1.0mb/s....just ridiculous.
Mountains and everything are ruining the reception and yeah I love closer to the water!
What the heck is going on Tmo!?!?
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Natural topography?

SeEsAw12 said:
Which FroYo radio? Have you tried the Korean radio?
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I am using regular froyo radio recommended in cyanogens cm6 thread. Can I flash Korean radio on top? If I get issues can I just go back and flash regular froyo radio?
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mortal300 said:
I am using regular froyo radio recommended in cyanogens cm6 thread. Can I flash Korean radio on top? If I get issues can I just go back and flash regular froyo radio?
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Yeah, you can do all that.
A lot of people have reported faster speeds on the new radio.

The radio increased my download speeds. I usually top out at about 700Kbps down/ 1300 up around Placentia.
After installing, those numbers flip-flopped

SeEsAw12 said:
Yeah, you can do all that.
A lot of people have reported faster speeds on the new radio.
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I can flash the radio without doing a wipe and clean install of CM6-RC3?
So in other words im using CM6 right now with Froyo radio...I can just throw the update.zip and flash that korean radio and it will still continue to work?? (And also go backwards incase I dont like the difference..)

yes, you can install the latest radio 5.08 and then go back to the 4.xx if you choose so. ROM is not associated with radio. radio controls all the wireless/signals in the cellphone.

mortal300 said:
I can flash the radio without doing a wipe and clean install of CM6-RC3?
So in other words im using CM6 right now with Froyo radio...I can just throw the update.zip and flash that korean radio and it will still continue to work?? (And also go backwards incase I dont like the difference..)
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Yes sir.
You DO NOT have to wipe.
and you can go back whenever you please.

whoisthedrizzle said:
Perhaps the problem is that our phones simply do not support HSPA+, which they do not. They support up to ~7M down on HSDPA.
T-mobile is just running around saying they've upgraded their network and to enjoy faster speeds, yet at the same time is saying the G2 will be the first device on their network to be able to even use HSPA+.
Anyone care to clue me in on how a HSDPA rated phone is going to have improved network speed on a network it isn't compatible with and isn't completely live?
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I'd also like to know the answer to this question. I'm strongly considering picking up the Nexus S and would like to know if when hspa+ comes to the city where I live if my N1 or NS would see a big jump in download speed despite not "having hspa+"?
On my N1 I get no more than 1Mb/s down. If that number would jump to 7Mb/s when hspa+ comes to town and can definitely rationalize the Nexus S not being hspa+ compatible. 7 times my current speed will do.
Can someone please explain how this really works?

Rogers v20c 4G speed?

I don't know if anyone else has this issue but they boast up to 21Mbps download speeds with the upgrade to v20c. I'm lucky to see 2Mbps at the most. Anyone else notice little to no speed increase after the upgrade?

it all depends on your area i live kinda i a country area it says 4g or h+ but i get 2mbs down but if i go in to the city i get 10mbs just cuz it says 21mbps just means that the most the network can handle dosent mean you get thoughs speeds just like home internet i pay for 12mbps and only dl at 1.5mbps ive call them and talk to them before and thats what they said you wont ever reach that speed but thats what the network can handle.
All the towers have the software for 4g soon to get lte but only like 5% of the towers have the hardware to support this this is another reason for slow speeds when your phone tells you you have 4g or h+ and when lte comes it will be the same story its just a gimic

xstokerx said:
it all depends on your area i live kinda i a country area it says 4g or h+ but i get 2mbs down but if i go in to the city i get 10mbs just cuz it says 21mbps just means that the most the network can handle dosent mean you get thoughs speeds just like home internet i pay for 12mbps and only dl at 1.5mbps ive call them and talk to them before and thats what they said you wont ever reach that speed but thats what the network can handle.
All the towers have the software for 4g soon to get lte but only like 5% of the towers have the hardware to support this this is another reason for slow speeds when your phone tells you you have 4g or h+ and when lte comes it will be the same story its just a gimic
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I understand that I won't see the 21Mbps down, however I think I should at least see an improvement over what I had before the upgrade. I live in Niagara Falls. I'm right downtown and get Full to just under full signal at home. I was just curious to see if anyone else notice little to no improvement.

If your paying for 12 mbps you should be getting at least 10 . Maybe you should look into a router firmware update. Phones are different them home internet. I better be getting what I paid for. Not being rude. Just saying look into that. My friend was getting the same as you . As we live in the country too. I done a firmware upgrade on his router and jumped to 15 mbops.
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well im on shaw and i have to use there crap smc modem router in one and you cant update the firware cuz its locked out

xstokerx said:
well im on shaw and i have to use there crap smc modem router in one and you cant update the firware cuz its locked out
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O dude thats crazy. i would demand something at least! lol

4G LTE Indicator?

I just got the phone a while ago and u wonder, does it support the WiMax bands? Because I do get 4G occasionally but a speedtest shows it to be incredibly slow.
If possible could anyone on Sprint screenshot when they know they're on LTE and show me?
Thank you!
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No you don't get a Wimax signal. The HTC's radio is not capable of this. As far as I know, neither is any other LTE phone. But you don't have much to lose. Sprint is expected to shut down its WiMax by 2015 (or something) and I've read it wasn't much good either. Sprint is just starting to roll out its LTE. I'm supposed to get it in August. I'm waiting. It should be worth it.

sauprankul said:
No you don't get a Wimax signal. The HTC's radio is not capable of this. As far as I know, neither is any other LTE phone. But you don't have much to lose. Sprint is expected to shut down its WiMax by 2015 (or something) and I've read it wasn't much good either. Sprint is just starting to roll out its LTE. I'm supposed to get it in August. I'm waiting. It should be worth it.
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Any idea why I'm getting extremely slow speeds then?

At home I get blazing speed on LTE.. At work (4 min away) I get 3g but when I walk around the building I can sometimes connect to LTE but its very very slow.

budeone said:
At home I get blazing speed on LTE.. At work (4 min away) I get 3g but when I walk around the building I can sometimes connect to LTE but its very very slow.
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Do you have any speed test results?
I have a great signal near a friends house and my upload is around 10 and my download barely increases.

TechnoHacker said:
Do you have any speed test results?
I have a great signal near a friends house and my upload is around 10 and my download barely increases.
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You might be in an area where 4G isn't fully implemented and just experimental. I work in NY and they never officially announced that they deployed LTE here. I do connect to 4G LTE outside my office but speed tests only show like 1.5 - 2 mb at best, even with full bars.

cnsviet said:
You might be in an area where 4G isn't fully implemented and just experimental. I work in NY and they never officially announced that they deployed LTE here. I do connect to 4G LTE outside my office but speed tests only show like 1.5 - 2 mb at best, even with full bars.
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Ahh that explains it. Sprint did say they were going to rollout LTE here, but with no date.
That's literally my situation aha
Thank you!

TechnoHacker said:
Ahh that explains it. Sprint did say they were going to rollout LTE here, but with no date.
That's literally my situation aha
Thank you!
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NP! I too have been patiently waiting for 4G LTE. Been paying the $10 premium monthly add-on for 3 years but getting what feels like AOL dial-up speeds :crying:

cnsviet said:
NP! I too have been patiently waiting for 4G LTE. Been paying the $10 premium monthly add-on for 3 years but getting what feels like AOL dial-up speeds :crying:
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Yup. I know that feel. My friend's got the phone on another network ( I think it was AT&T ) and his speeds are insanely fast. :crying:

TechnoHacker said:
Do you have any speed test results?
I have a great signal near a friends house and my upload is around 10 and my download barely increases.
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TechnoHacker said:
Ahh that explains it. Sprint did say they were going to rollout LTE here, but with no date.
That's literally my situation aha
Thank you!
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Basically how it rolls. There's a few towers in my area that are sporadically transmitting LTE, but if you try to use actual data it'll kick you down to 3G (which would likely contribute to your low speeds).

Yeah this is my current situation as well. I might get a 4G signal, but it's like 1 maybe 1.5 down. Most of the time I'm on crappy 3G, with speeds of 0.1 mbps.
Sprint rep said August.... I can only hope.

cnsviet said:
You might be in an area where 4G isn't fully implemented and just experimental. I work in NY and they never officially announced that they deployed LTE here. I do connect to 4G LTE outside my office but speed tests only show like 1.5 - 2 mb at best, even with full bars.
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Just fyi, the bars at the top are for 1x only, not LTE:
http://www.s4gru.com/index.php?/top...-to-determine-your-actual-LTE-signal-strength
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subhumanderelict said:
Just fyi, the bars at the top are for 1x only, not LTE:
http://www.s4gru.com/index.php?/top...-to-determine-your-actual-LTE-signal-strength
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Wow how misleading lol... seems like this is just for Sprint specifically?

cnsviet said:
Wow how misleading lol... seems like this is just for Sprint specifically?
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ive seen it like that for other carriers as well (i work with cell phones for my job)

It would be cool if sprint implanted lte signal bars the same way wimax does!
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It's not just sprint. HTC phones report signal this way. Cyanogenmod reports signal differently, and other manufactures report signal differently also.
but it's ok to eat fish cause they don't have feelings.....

Given that there's no standard for "bars" with data signals, that's fine with me. I'd like a statusbar widget though that reported that kind of info.

If you want a standard, use the "text" setting. It displays the signal strength in dBm

Nk4 signal vs NJ7

Has anyone noticed that with nk4 their signal is not as good as it is with nj7? I dont know if its coincidence or its actually happening. Anyone?

Working fine for me
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & BAD ASS GEAR S

might just be my area. In my development the service is not good. Once I leave my area its fine lol.

Signal here in Colorado sucks period. At least on my commute areas it does. Especially at home.
"come soft & fragile, get stomped and trample"

I have full bars with mine and I get lte with it but I did notice a download decrease it take for ever to load a page and I'm on the unlimited high speed plan

Same here
I Instantly notice a change in LTE speeds after updating from NJ7 to NK4. While at work with NJ7 I would get any where from 6-12 Mbps . Now with NK4 I get less then 1 Mbps with Full 5 Bars of LTE!. Its a huge difference and its driving me nuts. I tried re flashing NK4 base band and modem in case i had a bad flash but still the same. Any suggestions?

I was getting ready to start a new thread when I saw this. My lte speeds or horrid. I have used lte discovery and network info apps to confirm that I am on lte but i am getting an average of .63Mbps download and 4.2Mbps upload. The other phones in the house are getting 7-10Mbps download so I know I am not in a bad area. I would love to know how to get my speeds back again!

jrobinsky said:
Has anyone noticed that with nk4 their signal is not as good as it is with nj7? I dont know if its coincidence or its actually happening. Anyone?
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Since you haven't mentioned whether or not you are referring to mobile data or other communication, let me say that since I've upgraded to NK4, my WiFi, data speeds as well as BT signal reliability seem to have taken a dive.
ElAguila said:
I was getting ready to start a new thread when I saw this. My lte speeds or horrid. I have used lte discovery and network info apps to confirm that I am on lte but i am getting an average of .63Mbps download and 4.2Mbps upload. The other phones in the house are getting 7-10Mbps download so I know I am not in a bad area. I would love to know how to get my speeds back again!
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You haven't specified your baseband.

Do you know if its possible to downgrade back to NJ7 Baseband?

It is possible.

T-Mobile Nexus 6 data extremely slow

Does anybody know why my data on the nexus 6 is so slow only time it's decent is in the early morning hours like 2am 3am etc but I know you're gonna say well maybe the network is congested no every other phone I have gets decent speeds all day even my sons Alcatel one touch which is a hspa phone my hspa speeds are faster on my nexus than LTE, my Z3, unlocked droid maxx and lg g2 all get almost 30mbs down and bout 15up while my nexus maxes out at like 2mbs down and 8mb up. I'm on 5.1 stock unrooted

A pic of my speed test results

snoopy1e11 said:
Does anybody know why my data on the nexus 6 is so slow only time it's decent is in the early morning hours like 2am 3am etc but I know you're gonna say well maybe the network is congested no every other phone I have gets decent speeds all day even my sons Alcatel one touch which is a hspa phone my hspa speeds are faster on my nexus than LTE, my Z3, unlocked droid maxx and lg g2 all get almost 30mbs down and bout 15up while my nexus maxes out at like 2mbs down and 8mb up. I'm on 5.1 stock unrooted
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your apn or congestion?

snoopy1e11 said:
Does anybody know why my data on the nexus 6 is so slow only time it's decent is in the early morning hours like 2am 3am etc but I know you're gonna say well maybe the network is congested no every other phone I have gets decent speeds all day even my sons Alcatel one touch which is a hspa phone my hspa speeds are faster on my nexus than LTE, my Z3, unlocked droid maxx and lg g2 all get almost 30mbs down and bout 15up while my nexus maxes out at like 2mbs down and 8mb up. I'm on 5.1 stock unrooted
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Do you have the Unlimited LTE Data plan?

I've had this as well. I'm on T-Mobile in Phoenix Arizona. When I'm out and about, I'll run speed tests and range anything from .50 Mbps to 4mbps download speeds on LTE. Well, that's assuming I can even connect to data. Usually just get the ! instead.

Yes I have unlimited LTE

I'm on unlimited. When I sideloaded the 5.0.1 D OTA update my phone was fast. When I switched to the 5.1 M update it slowed to down a lot. I flashed 5.1.1 T-Mobile update and it's still slow. It doesn't matter the time of day or server. It's just slow. Right now I'm on 5.1.1 unrooted. I'm thinking about flashing the 95R radio from the 5.0.1 update and see what happens.
Edit: My 3G is faster than my LTE. My Nexus 5 is fast.

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I'm on unlimited. When I sideloaded the 5.0.1 D OTA update my phone was fast. When I switched to the 5.1 M update it slowed to down a lot. I flashed 5.1.1 T-Mobile update and it's still slow. It doesn't matter the time of day or server. It's just slow. Right now I'm on 5.1.1 unrooted. I'm thinking about flashing the 95R radio from the 5.0.1 update and see what happens.
Edit: My 3G is faster than my LTE. My Nexus 5 is fast.
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That's exactly my problem slow LTE, 3g is faster but I haven't gotten 5.1.1 yet

simms22 said:
your apn or congestion?
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My APN is the fast.T-Mobile.com APN that came with the phone I deleted all the other apns

im having a weird data issue too. connectivity on lte and wifi or both erratic after updating to 5.1.1 last night. going to wipe it this am and see if that fixes it.

Same here.
Since moving from my Note 3 (16 to 20 Mbps down) to my beloved Nexus 6 I am getting horrible speeds. This morning a little more than 1 Mbps. I put in a repeater to see if that would help speeds, but no. I was just assuming that I was on an oversold tower. I AM on the unlimited plan. I have also been wondering if I am throttled. I go to my father in laws house and I have gotten 50Mbps down on this Nexus. I would like to add that I don't think it is the phone. I used an adapter and put my nano Sim back in my Note 3 and got the identical results. So it leads me to look at my service being cut or my tower oversold.

Something is wrong with my APN I use the stock APN that comes on the phone it's slow but there is also an APN for metro PCs if I use that one it's get like 10mb down and up maybe I need the stock T-Mobile apn