Ive had a good search and seen some threads of this been done on other devices and wondered if possible on the N6?
Im not used to the H,H+ etc and my OCD is at full rage not seeing my usual 3g/4g.
Appreciate any help on this.
Thanks!
So you want to change the accurate network types of e, 3g, h, h+ and LTE to what exactly? E, 3g, 3g, 3g, and 4g?
Yeah you could edit all the icons and replace them.
I'd have thought someone with ocd would prefer accurate information
rootSU said:
So you want to change the accurate network types of e, 3g, h, h+ and LTE to what exactly? E, 3g, 3g, 3g, and 4g?
Yeah you could edit all the icons and replace them.
I'd have thought someone with ocd would prefer accurate information
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Seems i must of missed something, i was under the assumption (incorrectly) that H was HPRS and H+ was 3g and LTE ofcourse 4G.
Done my research and can see i was WAY out.
iPhone convert here
basicreece said:
Seems i must of missed something, i was under the assumption (incorrectly) that H was HPRS and H+ was 3g and LTE ofcourse 4G.
Done my research and can see i was WAY out.
iPhone convert here
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Ah ok...
Yeah so basically:
GPRS = 2g
Edge = 2.5g
3G = 3g
HSPA = 3.5g
HSPA+ = 3.5g
LTE = 4g
basicreece said:
Ive had a good search and seen some threads of this been done on other devices and wondered if possible on the N6?
Im not used to the H,H+ etc and my OCD is at full rage not seeing my usual 3g/4g.
Appreciate any help on this.
Thanks!
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If you want your OCD to really rage full, learn a bit about these codes;
2G/3G/4G are all 100% meaningless crap marketing terms made up and used by phone carriers to pretend differences.
There ARE NO hard and fast rules about applying them.
Phone carriers HAVE been known to refer to HSPA *AS* 4G.
Let your OCD rage now about how you've been mislead, and be happy when you actually see H and H+, which are short for HSPA and HSPA+, because at least that *means something*.
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If you want your OCD to really rage full, learn a bit about these codes;
2G/3G/4G are all 100% meaningless crap marketing terms made up and used by phone carriers to pretend differences.
There ARE NO hard and fast rules about applying them.
Phone carriers HAVE been known to refer to HSPA *AS* 4G.
Let your OCD rage now about how you've been mislead, and be happy when you actually see H and H+, which are short for HSPA and HSPA+, because at least that *means something*.
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AARRGGHH! :crying: lol
I have read before that phone 'signal' as we think we know it is rubbish. The bars of signal are meaningless, 1 bar will give you as much strength as 5.
On my iPhone i get 2g at work all day, nexus 6 with same sim im getting H and H+ and actually receiving texts and calls.
I was just hoping to see what im used to 2G/3G/4G etc but now youve cleared this up for me ill sleep easy lol :good:
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AARRGGHH! :crying: lol
I have read before that phone 'signal' as we think we know it is rubbish. The bars of signal are meaningless, 1 bar will give you as much strength as 5.
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This is somewhat true. On one device, lets take nexus 6 as an example - Bar 1 will always be the same signal strength range, as will bar 2, 3 etc. What you cannot do, is compare bar 1 on a nexus 6 with bar 1 on another device, because there is no consistency and the ranges used are most likely different.
True signal strength can be seen in both db and asu, in settings > About phone > Status. And signal strength is not related to whether you are connected to 3g, H or LTE
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This is somewhat true. On one device, lets take nexus 6 as an example - Bar 1 will always be the same signal strength range, as will bar 2, 3 etc. What you cannot do, is compare bar 1 on a nexus 6 with bar 1 on another device, because there is no consistency and the ranges used are most likely different.
True signal strength can be seen in both db and asu, in settings > About phone > Status. And signal strength is not related to whether you are connected to 3g, H or LTE
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Yes exactly, should been more clear that this differs device to device.
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Yes exactly, should been more clear that this differs device to device.
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Its not just device to device... its firmware to firmware!
Remember the apple antennagate problem, where if you held the thing wrong it would knock you down by 3 bars? You know what they did to solve that problem? They modified the relationship between "bars" and actual signal strength.
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basicreece said:
AARRGGHH! :crying: lol
I have read before that phone 'signal' as we think we know it is rubbish. The bars of signal are meaningless, 1 bar will give you as much strength as 5.
On my iPhone i get 2g at work all day, nexus 6 with same sim im getting H and H+ and actually receiving texts and calls.
I was just hoping to see what im used to 2G/3G/4G etc but now youve cleared this up for me ill sleep easy lol :good:
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Part of what I think you're referring to, is that it is a digital signal. A digital signal can be thought of as being in one of two distinct states; ENOUGH, or NOT ENOUGH.
Whether it is showing 1 bar on the screen, or 4 (or 5 depending on the OS...), as long as it has ENOUGH, then there will be no issue with communications.
The ONE AND ONLY thing that the "bars" can tell you, is whether you might be *approaching* the state of not enough.
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Anyone else having trouble with their LTE reception? I just came from an iPhone 5 and fortunately around me the area is kind of blanketed in LTE but I have yet to get any solid connection on the One where as with my iPhone 5 it would lock on and get great speeds. I saw the LTE on the one pop in a couple times but just for a couple secs and even once long enough to start a Speed Test but then it "lost connection" in the middle of the test. I assume a PRL update is needed or at least I'm hoping its just a PRL update.
You practically have to be making love to the tower to get 4G to connect. And yes you are not alone.
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BrianBaker said:
You practically have to be making love to the tower to get 4G to connect. And yes you are not alone.
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Hmm wonder if this is something that can be fixed via software, this is kind of bumming me out - this will be the one and only gripe I'll have.
D3luSi0n4L said:
Hmm wonder if this is something that can be fixed via software, this is kind of bumming me out - this will be the one and only gripe I'll have.
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I was a bit harsh...The phone is quite capable of grabbing an LTE signal..But in fringe areas is will not hold it.It will switch back to 3G..On the sensorly App it seems anything that is 0-2 bars will grab a signal but will drop it eventually..
But man when you are in 3-4 bars in dark purple this phone flys on LTE.
I'm pulling crazy far lte speeds
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Yeah I was too on my iPhone 5 - like 30mbps download and 10 upload. I'll update this post when I get another chance to test it again I went ahead and did a profile and prl update.
Sounds like location. I am in Houston and 80% of the time its on 4G, I usually get around 15 to 25 down on 4G. Indoors It stays on 4G but speed drops to around 2
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I was a bit harsh...The phone is quite capable of grabbing an LTE signal..But in fringe areas is will not hold it.It will switch back to 3G..On the sensorly App it seems anything that is 0-2 bars will grab a signal but will drop it eventually..
But man when you are in 3-4 bars in dark purple this phone flys on LTE.
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This is a software decision.
For most networks, the decision to switch back to 3g would be wise. For most, LTE is blazing fast and 3g is usable. Switching back to 3g on the fringe of an LTE tower is a fine decision on say, Verizon. It also makes sense from a battery standpoint. There is no sense making the higher power LTE radio strain for a signal when there is a perfectly usable 3g one available to a lower power radio.
The problem is with Sprint, with Sprint, you want to hold onto every last drop of LTE because even the faintest, messiest, LTE signal is going to be faster than the 3g.
There will be a software update, I am fairly confident, that will change the values where the the phone gives up on LTE.
Felnarion said:
This is a software decision.
For most networks, the decision to switch back to 3g would be wise. For most, LTE is blazing fast and 3g is usable. Switching back to 3g on the fringe of an LTE tower is a fine decision on say, Verizon. It also makes sense from a battery standpoint. There is no sense making the higher power LTE radio strain for a signal when there is a perfectly usable 3g one available to a lower power radio.
The problem is with Sprint, with Sprint, you want to hold onto every last drop of LTE because even the faintest, messiest, LTE signal is going to be faster than the 3g.
There will be a software update, I am fairly confident, that will change the values where the the phone gives up on LTE.
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I was going to return the phone today but I'll roll the dice in hopes there is an update for this because in those "fringe" areas my Note II holds 4G and its only 2Mbps down and 1Mbps up but it's better than the 3G 28.8k it switches to..
I just hope when the area is covered by more LTE it'll even out..Happy to hear that about Houston which has more coverage that the One holds it's 4G better..This is what im banking on.
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I was going to return the phone today but I'll roll the dice in hopes there is an update for this because in those "fringe" areas my Note II holds 4G and its only 2Mbps down and 1Mbps up but it's better than the 3G 28.8k it switches to..
I just hope when the area is covered by more LTE it'll even out..Happy to hear that about Houston which has more coverage that the One holds it's 4G better..This is what im banking on.
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I'm smack in the middle of what is supposed to be a fairly saturated LTE area for Sprint (North Dallas, TX) and mine keeps switching between 3G and 4G with total data drops seemingly random and many times throughout the day. What's weird is often times, I'll go to use the phone and the 4G is there and 3 or more bars, and then as soon as I open an app that uses data the connection will drop. It doesn't happen every time, but way more than I can live with. I'm thinking about returning it to Sprint and going with AT&T instead. I just hate to have to hassle with it and pay more for less.
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I'm smack in the middle of what is supposed to be a fairly saturated LTE area for Sprint (North Dallas, TX) and mine keeps switching between 3G and 4G with total data drops seemingly random and many times throughout the day. What's weird is often times, I'll go to use the phone and the 4G is there and 3 or more bars, and then as soon as I open an app that uses data the connection will drop. It doesn't happen every time, but way more than I can live with. I'm thinking about returning it to Sprint and going with AT&T instead. I just hate to have to hassle with it and pay more for less.
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well,then i guess all I can hope for is some sort of update that helps keep 4G connected
Probably has to do with a minimum signal strength value to keep it connected to LTE and not search for a stronger signal. Hopefully there will be an update or a patch to fix this.
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Probably has to do with a minimum signal strength value to keep it connected to LTE and not search for a stronger signal. Hopefully there will be an update or a patch to fix this.
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I just feel like not enough people are complaining about this issue and it'll just keep working the way it is now. Which would suck.
Through out my searched for the night I ended up at a tmobile website where they too were having the same 4G issues.. Maybe it is a design problem and not just software.
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"Bars" mean nothing, usually they only show strength of the cdma 1x (voice), not lte strength..
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2...to-determine-your-actual-lte-signal-strength/
Happening frequently
I have the same problem keeps switching from LTE to 3g constantly I think it is happening to multiple on sprint network idk about others http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/04/26/sprint-htc-one-lte-connectivity-issue-in-select-markets/
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well,then i guess all I can hope for is some sort of update that helps keep 4G connected
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no problems here in fort myers. When i'm home it locks on 4g and screams at 25 down and 10 up
wranglerray said:
no problems here in fort myers. When i'm home it locks on 4g and screams at 25 down and 10 up
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That's helpful...with issues like this, especially at or near launch of a new device, it's always a question of device vs. network vs. software issues. I'm always skeptical that the device is the issue, especially on flagship models. I posted on a Sprint forum and one user said he took his phone back and Sprint swapped it for another HTC One and he's had no issues. Says he thinks it's some type of provisioning issue, which I am not too sure of. But he said he a similar issue with the Evo LTD (I think) and swapped and no more issues. There also was a Sprint rep that chimed in on the thread and advised me that an Vision upgrade had been made in my area yesterday and to update profile and prl and then power down for 3-5 minutes. I followed that advice but I'm still having issues. For reference, I'm in 75240 zip code.
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"Bars" mean nothing, usually they only show strength of the cdma 1x (voice), not lte strength..
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2...to-determine-your-actual-lte-signal-strength/
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Yeah, I think most of us that have been around a while realize that. I could care less about the bars. Hell, I hardly even talk on the phone. What I need is Data to work, consistently. I don't even care if it's 4G if a decent 3G is available and would provide a consistent connection. Well, yeah, I would prefer it be 4G. The selling point for Sprint right now is their prices and unlimited Data. When you factor in that they are really trying to upgrade their network to compete with the other big 2, and are oriented towards customer concerns at the moment, it makes them appealing. But they got to get the data consistent, especially in large markets like Dallas, TX, or they are just going to keep on churning customers. I just switched to them from Verizon as I was at the end of my contract and was a bit tired of Big Red's bullying, but I have to hand it to them, their network is fantastic. I might be going right back to them, or take a chance on AT&T, which I switched from to Verizon a couple years ago.
I'm in Singapore and now using ARHD 9.4 which runs on the International .401 base.
I'm constantly getting 1-2 bars of LTE only despite my signal strength being good (around RSRP -90 dBm). Singapore is a small place so signal strength is generally good.
I've noticed that the .401 base breaks down the bars as such
1 bar - signal is -100 to -110 RSRP dBm
2 bar - signal is -90 to -99
3 bar - signal is -80 to -89
4 bar - signal is -70 to -79
5 bar - signal is < -70
Which basically is inaccurate... It's almost impossible to get full 5 bars. I've only gotten it once I was right next to the tower. Most of the time I'm on 1-2 bars which is 3-4 on other phones...
This is probably HTC's fault but is there any way to fix this? It's impossible to know now if we're in a place of really bad signal cause its always showing 1 bar...
By the way, this only happens on LTE signal... All other signals like G, 3G or H are all normal like other phones...
Anyone else having this issue?
btw we're on 1800/2600Mhz for our LTE networks.
I have the same problem in france with ARHD 9.4.
I'm about to flash 10.1 and the new radio to see if i'll have a better signal.
grigdush said:
I have the same problem in france with ARHD 9.4.
I'm about to flash 10.1 and the new radio to see if i'll have a better signal.
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Let me know how it goes!
oonline said:
I'm in Singapore and now using ARHD 9.4 which runs on the International .401 base.
I'm constantly getting 1-2 bars of LTE only despite my signal strength being good (around RSRP -90 dBm). Singapore is a small place so signal strength is generally good.
I've noticed that the .401 base breaks down the bars as such
1 bar - signal is -100 to -110 RSRP dBm
2 bar - signal is -90 to -99
3 bar - signal is -80 to -89
4 bar - signal is -70 to -79
5 bar - signal is < -70
Which basically is inaccurate... It's almost impossible to get full 5 bars. I've only gotten it once I was right next to the tower. Most of the time I'm on 1-2 bars which is 3-4 on other phones...
This is probably HTC's fault but is there any way to fix this? It's impossible to know now if we're in a place of really bad signal cause its always showing 1 bar...
By the way, this only happens on LTE signal... All other signals like G, 3G or H are all normal like other phones...
Anyone else having this issue?
btw we're on 1800/2600Mhz for our LTE networks.
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Upload your SystemUI.apk here and I will fix it for you when I get back home (in 6 hours from now)
You can pull SystemUI.apk from /system/app
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Tabtoub said:
Upload your SystemUI.apk here and I will fix it for you when I get back home (in 6 hours from now)
You can pull SystemUI.apk from /system/app
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having the same issue with 10.1 in canada
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Upload your SystemUI.apk here and I will fix it for you when I get back home (in 6 hours from now)
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sorry how do i do this? im a noob
crisgq27 said:
having the same issue with 10.1 in canada
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sorry how do i do this? im a noob
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just use a ES file explorer to navigate to /system/app and get the file out from there
Thanks so much man!
Here's the APK...
Can i use this file on every custom rom? Or will i run into trouble on diff roms etc?
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just use a ES file explorer to navigate to /system/app and get the file out from there
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here you go im with bell btw
max i ever get is about 4 of the 5 bars in LTE and 3g and 4g i get the full 5 bars
Hey mate,
I reside in Hong kong and i am having the same issue right now ~ any chance to get mine fixed as welL? tks
Do you need the system.apk file too? i cant find it in folders when my phone is connected to the PC ... weird
It's a widely known fact that ROMs/Kernels sometimes just change how they display the bars when what really matters is the dmb rating. Comparisons have been made where different ROMs/Kernels have been installed on the same device, one showing 5 bars and another showing 3 bars at the exact same place and having the same dbm rating.
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It's a widely known fact that ROMs/Kernels sometimes just change how they display the bars when what really matters is the dmb rating. Comparisons have been made where different ROMs/Kernels have been installed on the same device, one showing 5 bars and another showing 3 bars at the exact same place and having the same dbm rating.
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yeah but in this case if we're constantly on one bar how would we know when we really have a bad signal?
Not getting LTE signal on HTC One
Hi all,
I'm on ARHD 10.0 and recently purchased an LTE sim have it enabled. I'm currently in the Philippines within LTE zone (getting 4G-LTE using pocket Wifi), but my HTC One is only getting 3G signal and sometimes H. Hope you can help me here as I haven't experience the beauty of LTE yet on my phone
EDIT: I just tried placing the LTE SIM card in the pocket wifi and 4G-LTE appears.
DrAgKurt said:
Hi all,
I'm on ARHD 10.0 and recently purchased an LTE sim have it enabled. I'm currently in the Philippines within LTE zone (getting 4G-LTE using pocket Wifi), but my HTC One is only getting 3G signal and sometimes H. Hope you can help me here as I haven't experience the beauty of LTE yet on my phone
EDIT: I just tried placing the LTE SIM card in the pocket wifi and 4G-LTE appears.
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go to settings/mobile data... and choose the right setting... is LTE on auto?
I wonder why this isn't an issue on stock roms however, facing the same situation as OP.
oonline said:
go to settings/mobile data... and choose the right setting... is LTE on auto?
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Yup it is set that way.
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I hope it gets fixed soon
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crisgq27 said:
having the same issue with 10.1 in canada
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Same +1
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So no fix for this?
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium HD app
Same thing in Copenhagen (DK), never had [email protected]
On top of that, it would be nice with a dBm rating instead of the bars.
Hi All,
I've now had my Z1 (C6903) for five days and I love everything about the phone. It really is an amazing device, except in one area for me: reception. I've been looking at signal strength everywhere I go and it's consistently lower than my other devices on the same network. Wifi performance has already been discussed, so I will leave that alone. But cellular reception on my device seems to be pretty bad. Consistently when I'm with my wife and checking her phone (Galaxy S4) she will be on LTE and I will be on HSPA+. At work, my iPhone 5s gets an LTE signal where the Z1 only gets H+. Where the two phones both get LTE at my house, the others are 8-10 dB higher. I'm not going by signal bars, I'm going by the dB reading.
Has anyone else experienced this? I bought this for T-Mobile and it doesn't have wifi calling, of course, so when it loses signal in the middle of my building I'm really up a creek. I really, really want to keep this device! Would love to hear others' experience with the cellular reception aspect.
-Collin-
CollinFX45 said:
Hi All,
I've now had my Z1 (C6903) for five days and I love everything about the phone. It really is an amazing device, except in one area for me: reception. I've been looking at signal strength everywhere I go and it's consistently lower than my other devices on the same network. Wifi performance has already been discussed, so I will leave that alone. But cellular reception on my device seems to be pretty bad. Consistently when I'm with my wife and checking her phone (Galaxy S4) she will be on LTE and I will be on HSPA+. At work, my iPhone 5s gets an LTE signal where the Z1 only gets H+. Where the two phones both get LTE at my house, the others are 8-10 dB higher. I'm not going by signal bars, I'm going by the dB reading.
Has anyone else experienced this? I bought this for T-Mobile and it doesn't have wifi calling, of course, so when it loses signal in the middle of my building I'm really up a creek. I really, really want to keep this device! Would love to hear others' experience with the cellular reception aspect.
-Collin-
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You need to manually enter the APN Settings for T-mobile LTE or have T-Mobile send you a configuration message with the settings which will probably be the best idea!
Sean473 said:
You need to manually enter the APN Settings for T-mobile LTE or have T-Mobile send you a configuration message with the settings which will probably be the best idea!
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LTE is working fine, when I can get it. I found the correct APN settings from T-mobile's support site so that's not a big deal. The problem is that the signal isn't as strong as on my other devices. When I get LTE the speeds are fine, but usually I'm stuck on HSPA where I used to have LTE
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CollinFX45 said:
LTE is working fine, when I can get it. I found the correct APN settings from T-mobile's support site so that's not a big deal. The problem is that the signal isn't as strong as on my other devices. When I get LTE the speeds are fine, but usually I'm stuck on HSPA where I used to have LTE
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Umghh weird... My Z1 picks up LTE even with 0 bars indicated easily... Get pretty decent speed too.. Try factory resetting or have a chat with Sony Support to see if they can suggest something.. Also try requesting a signal boosting case from these guys
http://www.pongresearch.com/dont-see-your-device.html
Sean473 said:
Umghh weird... My Z1 picks up LTE even with 0 bars indicated easily... Get pretty decent speed too.. Try factory resetting or have a chat with Sony Support to see if they can suggest something.. Also try requesting a signal boosting case from these guys
http://www.pongresearch.com/dont-see-your-device.html
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Those cases are a trip - I hadn't seen those before.
Would hate do a factory reset, but I suppose it's worth a try. Good to know that typically this phone gets good signal strength for you. There is hope!
-Collin-
CollinFX45 said:
Hi All,
I've now had my Z1 (C6903) for five days and I love everything about the phone. It really is an amazing device, except in one area for me: reception. I've been looking at signal strength everywhere I go and it's consistently lower than my other devices on the same network. Wifi performance has already been discussed, so I will leave that alone. But cellular reception on my device seems to be pretty bad. Consistently when I'm with my wife and checking her phone (Galaxy S4) she will be on LTE and I will be on HSPA+. At work, my iPhone 5s gets an LTE signal where the Z1 only gets H+. Where the two phones both get LTE at my house, the others are 8-10 dB higher. I'm not going by signal bars, I'm going by the dB reading.
Has anyone else experienced this? I bought this for T-Mobile and it doesn't have wifi calling, of course, so when it loses signal in the middle of my building I'm really up a creek. I really, really want to keep this device! Would love to hear others' experience with the cellular reception aspect.
-Collin-
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Did you you resolved the problem? I'm using KitKat 157 firmware and have exactly same issue - I would like if you could tell what you did .
I would love to hear your thoughts on how this phone's signal compares to your old phone? I know some people using the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T have reported excellent signal strength with the device. I am on AT&T, but have used T-Mobile recently with the Note 3 and S5. I have found service inside buildings poor. I am curious how this device handles that. Note 4 users on Verizon claim the signal is excellent. Would love to hear your thoughts.
I really depends where you live and work I had Verizon, At&t, Sprint and Verizon. They all varied and I have run speed test all over the country coming to the same conclusion it depends on your area. Ask your neighbors and coworkers to run speed tests that will give you the best idea on what works for you.
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I really depends where you live and work I had Verizon, At&t, Sprint and Verizon. They all varied and I have run speed test all over the country coming to the same conclusion it depends on your area. Ask your neighbors and coworkers to run speed tests that will give you the best idea on what works for you.
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I'm not really interested in T-Mobile service, I'm interested in how well the signal performs on this device (N910T).
Maybe I miss understood you. How can you get any signal without service? I get OK service where I live inside buildings with this device and the signal that I get is usually full bars.
johntuck77 said:
Maybe I miss understood you. How can you get any signal without service? I get OK service where I live inside buildings with this device and the signal that I get is usually full bars.
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im asking those who have the device with service. I'm interested in how the signal performs on this device compared to other devices, such as, the S5, iPhone 5S, 6, Moto X ext...
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I'm not really interested in T-Mobile service, I'm interested in how well the signal performs on this device (N910T).
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are you high? to humor you... the signal works as it should, i get bars, i am able to browse the internet among other things that requires internet.
back to reality... the signal always depends on the damn carrier you have and their coverage and frequencies... verizon has good building penetration cause of the 700mhz spectrum
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I would love to hear your thoughts on how this phone's signal compares to your old phone? I know some people using the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T have reported excellent signal strength with the device. I am on AT&T, but have used T-Mobile recently with the Note 3 and S5. I have found service inside buildings poor. I am curious how this device handles that. Note 4 users on Verizon claim the signal is excellent. Would love to hear your thoughts.
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Compared to my Note 2 it has way better signal. At home my Note 2 always had 1 or 2 bars on LTE, the Note 4 always has 4 bars on LTE at home.
MattMJB0188 said:
I'm not really interested in T-Mobile service, I'm interested in how well the signal performs on this device (N910T).
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Fair enough. In my basement I used to get max. of 3 bars 4G hspa+....now with the N4 I get max. 4 bars LTE. (This happened after flashing my ROM.) Stock on the N4 I was getting 2-3 bars LTE.
Simple and straight up.
Hope that helps.
I'm coming from a Sony Z3 (and iPhone 5s before that) and I'm blown away with the signal strength I get with this device. I was actually talking about this with my fiance last night - comparing it to the 5s that she has currently, I was getting 4 (out of 5) bars where she was at 2.
Suppose I would need to look at hard signal strength numbers to know for sure, as it could just be software translating "more bars" where it isn't warranted. Without that though, it is noticeably better between the two devices.
T-Mobile over calculates the number of bars on their devices. What are you guys getting for the -dam value?
MattMJB0188 said:
T-Mobile over calculates the number of bars on their devices. What are you guys getting for the -dam value?
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THIS...Signal bars mean absolutely NOTHING; only dbm value will tell you your ACTUAL signal strength..
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THIS...Signal bars mean absolutely NOTHING; only dbm value will tell you your ACTUAL signal strength..
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Yep. I had the T-Mobile Galaxy S5/Note 3, along with the AT&T S5/Note 3. I conducted a few tests of my own. Using both the T-Mobile branded S5 and Note 3 with a signal between -110dbm and -101dbm it would show 4 signal bars. The AT&T variant would show 2. On the T-Mobile S5/Note 3 for anything < -100dbm it would show the full 5 bars. This told me T-Mobile is over calculating the signal. Probably due to their high frequencies. And the fact that they want you to think you have a better signal that you really do, especially indoors.
OpenSignal shows -73/75 dbm indoors at my office.
From just using it, I consider the signal quality excellent. But I haven't tested the dbm at the other places I use it.
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Yep. I had the T-Mobile Galaxy S5/Note 3, along with the AT&T S5/Note 3. I conducted a few tests of my own. Using both the T-Mobile branded S5 and Note 3 with a signal between -110dbm and -101dbm it would show 4 signal bars. The AT&T variant would show 2. On the T-Mobile S5/Note 3 for anything < -100dbm it would show the full 5 bars. This told me T-Mobile is over calculating the signal. Probably due to their high frequencies. And the fact that they want you to think you have a better signal that you really do, especially indoors.
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every carrier shows you a stronger signal than you are actually getting, so that's not unique to t mobile..
here again, the only things that actually accurately shows signal strength is your -dbm number...don't be naive and think getting 4 or 5 signal bars means you have a strong signal with ANY carrier..
-107 dbm with 4 bars here
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every carrier shows you a stronger signal than you are actually getting, so that's not unique to t mobile..
here again, the only things that actually accurately shows signal strength is your -dbm number...don't be naive and think getting 4 or 5 signal bars means you have a strong signal with ANY carrier..
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Maybe. But I think AT&T is a little bit more accurate, versus T-Mobile. I can't speak for Verizon or Sprint since I have never used them. I have always gone by the dbm number.
Hi,
I bought the mentioned model online and using FIDO sim Card. I have moved from Canadian S8+. Note 8 shows data connection as "4G" (as against LTE of S8+) and I am getting 4 signal bars instead of 5. I am not noticing any signal drops or slow internet speeds though. I am just wondering if this is something i need to worry about. I still have the option to return the phone. If this is a serious issue, I would rather return the phone and buy a Canadian model. Thanks in advance for the help!
Trijunction said:
Hi,
I bought the mentioned model online and using FIDO sim Card. I have moved from Canadian S8+. Note 8 shows data connection as "4G" (as against LTE of S8+) and I am getting 4 signal bars instead of 5. I am not noticing any signal drops or slow internet speeds though. I am just wondering if this is something i need to worry about. I still have the option to return the phone. If this is a serious issue, I would rather return the phone and buy a Canadian model. Thanks in advance for the help!
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Hi, I think some (or maybe all?) of the international models simply show the 4G icon instead of the usual LTE icon that we're used to. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's normal.
For the reception: could it just be 4 bars due to your location, or has it been consistently lower than expected in different places too? If it's persisting then you could check which bands are supported on that model versus the ones used by Fido. Might just be bad reception in your area too...hard to say.
True 4G on INT models is same as LTE. Im using same phone and network, no issues.
Can second this.
Ask your Carrier to confirm your IMEI on their end and refresh (provision) your SIM.
Before I only received 4G on my Exynos but after the refresh, I now get 4G+.
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True 4G on INT models is same as LTE. Im using same phone and network, no issues.
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good to know that.thanks! looks like the 4g/lte icon issue is more of a cosmetic thing but doesnt really effect data speeds.
However, I am very sure signal bars a consistently lower than S8+. I hardly see Note 8 getting all bars unless I am out on roads, not the case with S8. how about you?
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Can second this.
Ask your Carrier to confirm your IMEI on their end and refresh (provision) your SIM.
Before I only received 4G on my Exynos but after the refresh, I now get 4G+.
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Thank you.I have actually called fido and the lady indeed took the imei and made me restart the phone. I am yet to see 4G+ though. Thanks again!
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Hi, I think some (or maybe all?) of the international models simply show the 4G icon instead of the usual LTE icon that we're used to. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's normal.
For the reception: could it just be 4 bars due to your location, or has it been consistently lower than expected in different places too? If it's persisting then you could check which bands are supported on that model versus the ones used by Fido. Might just be bad reception in your area too...hard to say.
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yeah the bars are consistently low but didn't notice any drop in quality. Funny thing is only after getting this phone I realized how rarely we use these devices for actual phone calls anymore! Today whole day I didnt get any phone call from anyone, only tons of messages on various apps. I finally had to call myself from my desk phone!
Trijunction said:
Thank you.I have actually called fido and the lady indeed took the imei and made me restart the phone. I am yet to see 4G+ though. Thanks again!
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I should note, and I failed too, that I do receive 4G+ but usually in larger areas. I live in a small city of 15, 000 and sometimes catch 4G+. If I'm in a much denser populous, I always get 4G+ (except when I'm on a call; it switches to 3G or HSPA depending on which SIM is in).
Case in point, was in Toronto this past weekend and had 4G+ all weekend long.
sefrcoko said:
Hi, I think some (or maybe all?) of the international models simply show the 4G icon instead of the usual LTE icon that we're used to. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's normal.
For the reception: could it just be 4 bars due to your location, or has it been consistently lower than expected in different places too? If it's persisting then you could check which bands are supported on that model versus the ones used by Fido. Might just be bad reception in your area too...hard to say.
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A_H_E said:
I should note, and I failed too, that I do receive 4G+ but usually in larger areas. I live in a small city of 15, 000 and sometimes catch 4G+. If I'm in a much denser populous, I always get 4G+ (except when I'm on a call; it switches to 3G or HSPA depending on which SIM is in).
Case in point, was in Toronto this past weekend and had 4G+ all weekend long.
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Same
Hi,
I am facing the same issue. Phone only shows 4 G + Reception Signal is weak
When I use 3G APN signal is stronger. Can you please share APN Settings you used
Thanks