My Nexus 6 has finally shipped! It should be here Friday!
This is my first Nexus and I have never rooted, unlocked, flashed, etc. any of my previous phones.
I have been doing a lot of research and have been considering running CM12.
My question is, should I run my Nexus 6 with stock android for a few weeks and then try CM12? Or should I just root, unlock, and flash CM12 as soon as I get it?
I know that if I wait then I will need to back up all my data because it will factory data reset but I am not worried about that... I understand it is easier to do it right out of the box because you don't have to worry about loosing anything but I can just back my info/apps up so that isn't a big deal.
Also, would you guys suggest something over CM12? Right now I am planning on using CM12 and just getting it setup how I like it then leaving it. I don't plan on always flashing and making changes but I might get sucked into it lol
Thanks everyone!
Has CM moved to 5. 1 yet?
What version android came your phone?
Depending on those two answers you have to ask yourself if you want to downgrade your phone. At least version wise
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DebianDog said:
Has CM moved to 5. 1 yet?
What version android came your phone?
Depending on those two answers you have to ask yourself if you want to downgrade your phone. At least version wise
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Good point! I don't know if CM is on 5.1 yet. I just assumed it was but I will look into it. This is all new to me so thanks for pointing that out, didn't even think about that!
I won't know what version is on the phone until Friday. But even if it is on 5.0 I am sure it will notify me that 5.1 is ready to download as soon as I boot up the phone.
On my other phones I usually got rid of the stock and was on a custom ROM a pretty quick. I have tried a few ROMs on this phone as well. in my experience if you want to be on 5 .1 currently the best way to go is stock with debloating . Or use one of the clean/vanilla ROMs. Of course I did not test them all there are so many out there. Good luck with your new toy.
I will try CM after its been out a few weeks on 5 .1
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I'd recommend updating to 5.1 if it doesn't ship with 5.1. Then, I'd run stock for at least a few days to get a baseline for comparison. I think this is useful especially for bugs. That way you can get an idea of the issues that exist in stock 5.1 before using a custom ROM.
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On my other phones I usually got rid of the stock and was on a custom ROM a pretty quick. I have tried a few ROMs on this phone as well. in my experience if you want to be on 5 .1 currently the best way to go is stock with debloating . Or use one of the clean/vanilla ROMs. Of course I did not test them all there are so many out there. Good luck with your new toy.
I will try CM after its been out a few weeks on 5 .1
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Okay, thanks for the info!
Since I ordered my phone directly from Google, do I need to debloat? Or is that just for carrier versions?
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I'd recommend updating to 5.1 if it doesn't ship with 5.1. Then, I'd run stock for at least a few days to get a baseline for comparison. I think this is useful especially for bugs. That way you can get an idea of the issues that exist in stock 5.1 before using a custom ROM.
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Another great point! I knew you guys were the people to ask! lol
What about rooting and unlocking? Would you suggest waiting on that as well? Is there really any reason to unlock and root if I won't be running CM? I was going to root so that I could decrypte but it sounds like the lag from encryption is fixed in 5.1.
Well I would guess you WILL want to unlock and root because who does want to be able to run a root level ad blocker? Who wants to wait on OTA for an update? Not me.
I got mine from Google, as well, and heres what I did:
Played with the phone in stock form for like an hour saw it was still on 5.01 even after updating
Decided this is not for me. I wanted my root apps and I wanted to copy all the stuff off my old phone with Titanium backup to the Nexus
Looked on the interwebs for the easiest way to get root
Found a tool from my old buddy WugFresh (I knew him in the Droid X days)
Prepared myself for a giant PITA night. Download, drivers, and programs, reading various sites, etc, etc, etc
Was freaking SHOCKED that the tool did ALL THIS for me. I mean I literally plugged in my phone and it collected and set up everything. (It also has a console if you feel the need to type in adb commands)
Was unlocked, upgraded, rooted with a custom recovery with all my apps copied over in less than an hour
Sent Wuggy some $$$ and a thank-you note
You only need to decrypt, IMO, if you are running high end games that demand that level of performance. I have not seen any lag myself. Again this is my own personal experience. Your results may vary. 5.1 has optimized out many of the issues I heard about in 5.01 or so I have been told.
CFrance said:
Another great point! I knew you guys were the people to ask! lol
What about rooting and unlocking? Would you suggest waiting on that as well? Is there really any reason to unlock and root if I won't be running CM? I was going to root so that I could decrypte but it sounds like the lag from encryption is fixed in 5.1.
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I unlocked and rooted right away, mainly for the ability to use Titanium Backup to setup my phone and in the event that I installed a custom ROM. Outside of TB, I haven't really needed or used root, but it sure is nice to have. I played with a few custom ROMs before 5.1 came out but mostly felt that I preferred the stock experience. I downloaded the MCR modpack found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58019266&postcount=1 but have yet to install it. If/when I do, root will become more of a requirement for my uses.
I came from a Verizon Note 4 which could not be rooted. I got used to not playing with my phone and just using the stock experience. Its nice that the stock experience on the N6 is so fantastic and stable. It makes it easy to just use the phone without worry of fixing, modding, and adding features, though I still enjoy those aspects too which is why I'll likely use MultiROM next time I decide to install something custom.
Dude are you somehow tied up with this Tool Kit? You`re promoting it on so many threads i`am starting to get the impression you`re not quite objective about it There is no harm in using toolkits by xperienced users and i`am sure its well build, but for newbies its very dangerous because they`re lost if something should go wrong.
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Dude are you somehow tied up with this Tool Kit? You`re promoting it on so many threads i`am starting to get the impression you`re not quite objective about it There is no harm in using toolkits by xperienced users and i`am sure its well build, but for newbies its very dangerous because they`re lost if something should go wrong.
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Which is exactly why I'm promoting it it is almost bulletproof. what's the alternative loading all the different tools and drivers they need and following some instructions found on the internet.
And as I explained in my post you can just download the tool to make sure you have all the drivers and connections. use it to get the proper files you need and then run the command line like a power user if you want to feel better about yourself.
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Which is exactly why I'm promoting it it is almost bulletproof. what's the alternative loading all the different tools and drivers they need and following some instructions found on the internet.
And as I explained in my post you can just download the tool to make sure you have all the drivers and connections. use it to get the proper files you need and then run the command line like a power user if you want to feel better about yourself.
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I will never use/promote a Toolkit even if it seems very good for the reason i posted earlier. Flashing manualy in fastboot doesn`t take more time and makes users more aware about their phone and knowledge of it and gives you control over whats happening Just my 2 cents.
My two cents. I don't think you've dealt with enough newbies. on another forum it was me and a group of others that would help people get their phones out of boot loops and soft bricks. I have literally helped hundreds of people get their phone back.
even if you look here on XDA you'll see people trying to flash the wrong files download files that are not even for their phone, are following a dated instruction or don't really understand how directories work.
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DebianDog said:
Well I would guess you WILL want to unlock and root because who does want to be able to run a root level ad blocker? Who wants to wait on OTA for an update? Not me.
I got mine from Google, as well, and heres what I did:
Played with the phone in stock form for like an hour saw it was still on 5.01 even after updating
Decided this is not for me. I wanted my root apps and I wanted to copy all the stuff off my old phone with Titanium backup to the Nexus
Looked on the interwebs for the easiest way to get root
Found a tool from my old buddy WugFresh (I knew him in the Droid X days)
Prepared myself for a giant PITA night. Download, drivers, and programs, reading various sites, etc, etc, etc
Was freaking SHOCKED that the tool did ALL THIS for me. I mean I literally plugged in my phone and it collected and set up everything. (It also has a console if you feel the need to type in adb commands)
Was unlocked, upgraded, rooted with a custom recovery with all my apps copied over in less than an hour
Sent Wuggy some $$$ and a thank-you note
You only need to decrypt, IMO, if you are running high end games that demand that level of performance. I have not seen any lag myself. Again this is my own personal experience. Your results may vary. 5.1 has optimized out many of the issues I heard about in 5.01 or so I have been told.
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Thanks for the info! I actually had just downloaded this program over the weekend and was planning on using it once I do decide to root... which I am thinking will be as soon as I get the phone. lol other than that I think I am going to run it on stock for a while at first and wait until CM is on 5.1 for a while....
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I unlocked and rooted right away, mainly for the ability to use Titanium Backup to setup my phone and in the event that I installed a custom ROM. Outside of TB, I haven't really needed or used root, but it sure is nice to have. I played with a few custom ROMs before 5.1 came out but mostly felt that I preferred the stock experience. I downloaded the MCR modpack found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58019266&postcount=1 but have yet to install it. If/when I do, root will become more of a requirement for my uses.
I came from a Verizon Note 4 which could not be rooted. I got used to not playing with my phone and just using the stock experience. Its nice that the stock experience on the N6 is so fantastic and stable. It makes it easy to just use the phone without worry of fixing, modding, and adding features, though I still enjoy those aspects too which is why I'll likely use MultiROM next time I decide to install something custom.
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Thanks! I am planning on rooting and unlocking right away for TB and maybe a couple other little things like lightflow just for fun. Being the nerd that I am, I have a feeling that once I start playing with the whole rooting, unlocking, and flashing stuff I am going to really enjoy it.
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I will never use/promote a Toolkit even if it seems very good for the reason i posted earlier. Flashing manualy in fastboot doesn`t take more time and makes users more aware about their phone and knowledge of it and gives you control over whats happening Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for the reply! I see what you are saying, I had already come across Wug's toolkit over the weekend and was planning on using that because it seemed so simple.
However, seeing how I still have two and a half days until my phone will be here, maybe I will look into the manual way a little more to decide which route I want to go.... Any suggestions on where to start? Threads, videos, etc?
Thanks!
Boot into download mode, Unlock bootloader, reboot, boot back into download mode, fastboot twrp recovery, boot into recovery, reboot via recovery and install su when prompted. When you boot into android you will be prompted to update su. You now are rooted. Only other thing I would think about when you first get your device is if you want forced encryption. You will be required to wipe SD data if you decide to go with non forced encryption.
I loved cm on my previous touchwiz devices because I like stock/asop style. I find cm has bugs in early os update releases. I would only install cm if i took advantage of themes which I don't.
CFrance said:
Any suggestions on where to start? Threads, videos, etc?
Thanks!
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You can waste a lot of time while you're waiting for your phone in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2992769
ROM Reviews (5.1) + Nexus 6 Hacking: NRT · Apps · Utilities [3.22.15]
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Hi, long time lurker here. I want to start by saying how great and informative this site is. Anyway, my nexus 6 came in from the mail like 5 hours ago, did all the updates from 5.0 to 6.0 and it's now running Marshmallow mra58n. Question is should I root it immediately and if so, are there any guides I can follow? Much love to you all, I'm not exactly pro at this kind of things but I can follow instructions since I have competently rooted my past phones which were an HTC M7, M8 and a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet.
Thank you.
Edit: Phone is also unlocked, I currently have no SIM card
start here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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I've been looking at the Nexus Root Toolkit since I am kind of confused on how to proceed with anything at all, is that ill advised since I've read that there are problems with the USB cable disconnecting during reboot?
Also, thank you for the reply.
I used the NRT without issue. Just follow the guide step by step.
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and, dont touch the usb cable while the phone is processing your commands!
j/k, never even heard of the USB cable "problem"
I just used the toolkit today to unlock and root my N6.
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I rooted last night initially using manual method described in the first link provided, however after some driver issues ultimately used the 2.1.0 rootkit to uninstall and reinstall all drivers. That too alone saved me tons of time and either method is simple if you can follow instructions.
Totally recommend rooting and then experimenting with custom roms, its like getting a new phone everyone you install a new rom.
Have fun!
Kristine,
In answer specifically to your question "Should I...?" my answer is "No". It really depends on what you think you'll get from it - why do you want to do it? What specific benefits do you want?
The reason that I say "no" is that I've been rooted on all my several phones for years, and I've decided that for me the annoyance of having to manually flash ROMs outweighs the benefits - particularly now that Google are releasing frequent security updates. The moment you root your device the OTA (over the air) updates no longer work.
For me the major reason for rooting was to have a firewall. The other things (wakelock detection, double tap to wake, auto-hibernation...) were great but not showstoppers. Now that there is a non-root firewall (Netguard) I'm happy to leave my phone unrooted. I haven't had an OTA to apply yet, so if I have any problems then I might change my mind, but my advice would be to think hard about why you want root before you buy yourself into a world of tinkering...
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At the least unlock the bootloader right away. Doing so will completely wipe the phone so it's the first thing I do.
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Dammit, are you kidding me? I just downloaded and setup everything, figured I'd do all everything else tomorrow... Oh, well I can do it again I suppose.
Kristine-N said:
Question is should I root it immediately....
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Because I don't want a white interface, rooting is necessary. Google forces to many things, like forced encryption, useless apps and a white interface (battery drain). When rooting was impossible I would not have bought a Nexus.
Short answer: No!
Long answer: Well, it's sill no, but you can or even should do a couple of things.
First if all, allow OEM Unlocking in development settings. There are gazillion how-tos to switch developer mode on, and tick that switch. Google has borked OTAs already, and if your phone doesn't boot, and the switch is off, then you're boned, you can send it for repair. But if you can unlock you bootloader, then you can flash a custom recovery and make your phone working again.
Second, if you do plan to root your phone in the near future, you should unlock the bootloader now, while it's still new, because it will erase everything (IMHO this would be sufficient as a security measure, the Enable OEM Unlocking is overkill).
As for the main question if you don't have any specific ideas what you want the root for, then don't root your phone. It's a clear and present security risk, and you're just one too many "Allow" taps from letting someone acquire your passwords, clone your IMEI, and download your personal stuff. My motto is, if you don't know what exactly root is, what it does, then you don't know how to prevent exploits that need it to run.
Also if you modify your phone in any way, and that includes rooting, you won't receive the monthly OTAs, and will have to flash it manually.
And finally, don't use toolkits on a Nexus. Spend another hour reading about the matter and you will find out typing adb and fastboot commands is a easy as clicking buttons on toolkits. There is nothing extra in them, they just download the images to flash, and "type" these commands for you.
Unlock bootloader and don't root it for now. After some time, if you feel like you're missing some features that you can obtain only with root, then go ahead. But for now I would strongly recommend to stay stock and see how it goes...
So I've been out of the Android Phone loop for a while and was just wondering if there were any general tips or things to know about the Z3C? Any essential apps or features?
I've not updated to Marshmallow yet (running 5.1.1) and I don't really feel the need to, If I'm not mistaken it makes the root process a bit more fiddly, though the non-removable notification is somewhat annoying. Can it be turned off?
Quick question on root too, which I assume can only be achieved through unlocking the bootloader. Will it void my warranty with Sony? Given the issues with cracked screens and phones not really being waterproof, I'm not sure if it's actually worth doing.
I've got the Phone through Vodafone, is there anyway to remove the SIM lock myself?
I've been through the Stickies and whilst they contain useful information that'll surely come in handy later, the FAQ section is pretty limited, so I figured I'd ask here
Thanks in advance
UndisputedGuy said:
So I've been out of the Android Phone loop for a while and was just wondering if there were any general tips or things to know about the Z3C? Any essential apps or features?
I've not updated to Marshmallow yet (running 5.1.1) and I don't really feel the need to, If I'm not mistaken it makes the root process a bit more fiddly, though the non-removable notification is somewhat annoying. Can it be turned off?
Quick question on root too, which I assume can only be achieved through unlocking the bootloader. Will it void my warranty with Sony? Given the issues with cracked screens and phones not really being waterproof, I'm not sure if it's actually worth doing.
I've got the Phone through Vodafone, is there anyway to remove the SIM lock myself?
I've been through the Stickies and whilst they contain useful information that'll surely come in handy later, the FAQ section is pretty limited, so I figured I'd ask here
Thanks in advance
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You don't need to unlock the bootloader to be able to root your phone. A good place to start is the thread on how to back up your TA partition and rooting (don't be tempted by Kingroot)
Unless you want a custom CM rom I wouldn't bother trying to unlock your bootloader, it disables features on the phone, starting with breaking the camera.
This thread about going from a rooted phone back to stock is interesting. I'd say you don't need to root your phone, but it gets a lot more interesting when you do.
The top app for if you get root is Titanium Backup, it lets you control individual apps, 'freezing' them so they stop working, but not actually uninstalling them. Great for getting rid of all the bloatware that comes with phone providers (like Sim Lock), or even manufacturers. It also lets you back up an app and all the associated data that goes with it, so if you wipe you phone to change the rom, you can put all the apps back and the state they were in at the touch of a button. There's lots of other cool root apps, but TA is my favourite.
As long as you stick to stock then you can't go wrong, don't be afraid to play, there's plenty of people on the thread here to give you a hand.
SLIM 5 is a good stock 5.1.1 rom with lots of cool tweeks and doesn't mean you have to unlock your bootloader.
Edit: Rooting your phone doesn't void your warranty. But if you face any problems with your phone that means it's going back to the service centre, just put a stock build back on (no root) and do a factory reset. That way they cannot complain about the software config. They will do a factory reset anyway, before they send it back, along with an update to the latest rom. So be prepared and take everything off your phone beforehand.
Man, that's pretty much all the information I need in one post. Thanks a bunch man, I'll read through the links in some more detail.
I did see that Rooting guide earlier, but given how it mentioned using Flashtool and DRM Keys, I thought it'd surely void my warranty so didn't have a proper look.
SLIM also seems like a good shout, though I'm assuming I'd lose access to Sony's OTA updates if I were to flash it and there doesn't seem to be a Marshmallow version yet. Actually, that said, would I even have access to OTA updates if I stay stock but rooted?
Thanks again
UndisputedGuy said:
Man, that's pretty much all the information I need in one post. Thanks a bunch man, I'll read through the links in some more detail.
I did see that Rooting guide earlier, but given how it mentioned using Flashtool and DRM Keys, I thought it'd surely void my warranty so didn't have a proper look.
SLIM also seems like a good shout, though I'm assuming I'd lose access to Sony's OTA updates if I were to flash it and there doesn't seem to be a Marshmallow version yet. Actually, that said, would I even have access to OTA updates if I stay stock but rooted?
Thanks again
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Marshmallow has only been out a few weeks, so it's still full of bugs and problems at the moment. I would stick to 5.1.1. for at least another month, or until 6.1 reaches the Z3c.
No, if you install a custom rom then you wont get Sony OTA updates, but most rom developers base their builds on the latest firmware releases anyway, usually adopting a new release within one or two weeks.
Slim 5 is possibly the best stock Lollipop build there is and there will be no more updates for Lollopop now. There is a Slim MM build, but even though Wajk has been working his magic, it still has several bugs that need to be ironed out. If you are going down the MM route, don't be tempted by Concept or Beta, that need you to unlock your bootloader to root. Stick with a pre-rooted stock or a customised stock with root built in.
Appreciate the assistance, going to go ahead and root now and then perhaps try out SLIM 5. Some of the MEGA links seemed to be down so I just grabbed a Global FTF, couldn't seem to find an unbranded UK one.
I shouldn't have updated immediately once I got the phone
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Appreciate the assistance, going to go ahead and root now and then perhaps try out SLIM 5. Some of the MEGA links seemed to be down so I just grabbed a Global FTF, couldn't seem to find an unbranded UK one.
I shouldn't have updated immediately once I got the phone
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For the purposes of downgrading so you can root, it really doesn't matter which build you choose.
Didgesteve said:
For the purposes of downgrading so you can root, it really doesn't matter which build you choose.
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Just a quick question, at Step 26 could I just use SLIM 5? Seems much more convenient if that's the case.
Oh, and using OTA updates is going to lose me my root now, right?
UndisputedGuy said:
Just a quick question, at Step 26 could I just use SLIM 5? Seems much more convenient if that's the case.
Oh, and using OTA updates is going to lose me my root now, right?
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Yes, once you have recovery you can download Slim onto your phone and flash that. Don't forget to update SuperSU from the playstore.
No, you wont get any OTA updates with a custom stock, but Slim is up to date with the most recent Lollipop build.
Sony PC Companion will not update your phone either once you have a custom rom on. If you flash stock and then connect it, it will push MM onto it. But you will loose root and there's no easy way to get it working.
Stick with 5.1.1. for another month, wait for 6.1 to come out, and then possibly a couple of weeks after that Wajik will have made an incredible MM rom to flash, that will be as up to date as they come, then just flash that in exactly the same way.
Edit: Once you start to follow a developers thread, they announce updates to roms almost as quick as the Sony release, so don't worry that it will get out of date, just make sure to subscribe to the thread where your rom comes from. Slim 5 for example releases an OTA update, to move from 4.9 to 5, it's a lot smaller than the entire rom and only has updates, but flashes the same way.
Can only thank you again, successfully rooted and got recovery. Not sure how much I'm really fond of SLIM, just had a very brief mess around but something felt a bit off about the Launcher and the icons even after messing with the settings. It was only very brief though, perhaps there's more useful stuff there.
Might go simply stock/rooted but given there isn't a simple .zip for it it's a bit long winded
Thanks for all your help here, this is pretty much the ideal state I wanted my phone to be in upon receiving it, had no idea unlocking the bootloader wouldn't be necessary. Guys like you help make this site in my opinion, I half just expected a couple of snide answers telling me to just read the forum
Think I will be moving back to stock, just a question on the front though
Am I going to have to build my own pre rooted image (steps 27-32) each time there's an OTA update and I want rooted stock?
Sorry, hopefully that's the last thing from me
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UndisputedGuy said:
Think I will be moving back to stock, just a question on the front though
Am I going to have to build my own pre rooted image (steps 27-32) each time there's an OTA update and I want rooted stock?
Sorry, hopefully that's the last thing from me
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There are several 'stock' options, that are flashable zips
Pre-Rooted Firmwares-Recovery-SuperSU, although you need to click on 'older files'
Or another stock thread here
But by now you should be able to start finding these threads on your own
Yeah, I've time to have a proper look through now so will do that. I saw the thread earlier, but didn't seem to notice a pre rooted .zip for the latest 5.1.1 firmware in the OP. There was one in the comments though, thanks once again
Hi everyone, after years of owning an Optimus G, I finally decided to get me a G4 as I saw at a good price.
So after skimming through a bit I noticed there's some stuff going about 6.0 update issues and how some recent batches are fine now. I'm a bit confused so wanted to know what's good to do with the new device (rooting, unlocking, updating, etc) as I haven't decided to update to 6.0 because of what the forums say.
What's a good set of steps to get the phone working at its fullest? All advice is appreciated.
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Hi everyone, after years of owning an Optimus G, I finally decided to get me a G4 as I saw at a good price.
So after skimming through a bit I noticed there's some stuff going about 6.0 update issues and how some recent batches are fine now. I'm a bit confused so wanted to know what's good to do with the new device (rooting, unlocking, updating, etc) as I haven't decided to update to 6.0 because of what the forums say.
What's a good set of steps to get the phone working at its fullest? All advice is appreciated.
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Just bought one too. It's a great device. Mine came with 6.0 installed.
Updating is good, IMHO. I had 20i out of the box though..
You can unlock bootloader and root and even install ROMs!
I unlocked my bootloader and installed TWRP within the first hour of owning the device. Modified the stock 6.0 system to my liking and it runs fantastically. Very stable.
I also use CM13. I love Cyanogenmod. So I had to install it. CM13 is quite good and very snappy on this device. You lose some function of the camera and several features of the stock OS but you reap the benefits of amazing firmware and great options.. Honestly, it's a toss up between the 2 firmwares (stock & CM) for me. The camera takes great photos in CM13 but no manual mode or 4k video or laser focus apparently. But you will need to start with stock 6.0..
It really depends what you want out of your phone..
There's also many options for ROMs to install.
- LG-H811 via XDA app on CM13.
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Just bought one too. It's a great device. Mine came with 6.0 installed.
Updating is good, IMHO. I had 20i out of the box though..
You can unlock bootloader and root and even install ROMs!
I unlocked my bootloader and installed TWRP within the first hour of owning the device. Modified the stock 6.0 system to my liking and it runs fantastically. Very stable.
I also use CM13. I love Cyanogenmod. So I had to install it. CM13 is quite good and very snappy on this device. You lose some function of the camera and several features of the stock OS but you reap the benefits of amazing firmware and great options.. Honestly, it's a toss up between the 2 firmwares (stock & CM) for me. The camera takes great photos in CM13 but no manual mode or 4k video or laser focus apparently. But you will need to start with stock 6.0..
It really depends what you want out of your phone..
There's also many options for ROMs to install.
- LG-H811 via XDA app on CM13.
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Hey thanks for the feedback! I did upgrade as a leap of faith and no real problems so far. And yeah, I decided to root now anyways as all the bloat is getting annoying.
As for roms, I did consider CM so I'll give it a try! Thanks a lot for your suggestion
Arcsol said:
Hey thanks for the feedback! I did upgrade as a leap of faith and no real problems so far. And yeah, I decided to root now anyways as all the bloat is getting annoying.
As for roms, I did consider CM so I'll give it a try! Thanks a lot for your suggestion
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be aware that g4 has bootloop issues , and if unlocked bootloader then warranty doesnt cover it any more..
you can only downgrade to lollipop 10N or update to MM..
mine is locked and am on LP rooted//with xposed.
raptorddd said:
be aware that g4 has bootloop issues , and if unlocked bootloader then warranty doesnt cover it any more..
you can only downgrade to lollipop 10N or update to MM..
mine is locked and am on LP rooted//with xposed.
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brossovitch said:
Just bought one too. It's a great device. Mine came with 6.0 installed.
Updating is good, IMHO. I had 20i out of the box though..
You can unlock bootloader and root and even install ROMs!
I unlocked my bootloader and installed TWRP within the first hour of owning the device. Modified the stock 6.0 system to my liking and it runs fantastically. Very stable.
I also use CM13. I love Cyanogenmod. So I had to install it. CM13 is quite good and very snappy on this device. You lose some function of the camera and several features of the stock OS but you reap the benefits of amazing firmware and great options.. Honestly, it's a toss up between the 2 firmwares (stock & CM) for me. The camera takes great photos in CM13 but no manual mode or 4k video or laser focus apparently. But you will need to start with stock 6.0..
It really depends what you want out of your phone..
There's also many options for ROMs to install.
- LG-H811 via XDA app on CM13.
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I just got mine which is already on 6.0 and is 20i
I do worry about the bootloop issues that I saw many people got into that and turn the phone into trash, so is there any way I can use other rom or at least to take off those bloatware like T-mobile and amazon etc?
I have no idea how to do this kinda of things and read some post that all pretty confusing to me since they all put in some tech words like " SDK or ADB" in these steps
"4. Using the android issue SDK. Open a command window and link it to your SDK folder where ADB is located (typically Platform-Tools)
5. Once the Command window is linked to the folder, connect your device via USB and allow the connection. "
So if anyone can help me with as simple step by step ways to do it for new beginner that would be great.
Erick Cho said:
I just got mine which is already on 6.0 and is 20i
I do worry about the bootloop issues that I saw many people got into that and turn the phone into trash, so is there any way I can use other rom or at least to take off those bloatware like T-mobile and amazon etc?
I have no idea how to do this kinda of things and read some post that all pretty confusing to me since they all put in some tech words like " SDK or ADB" in these steps
"4. Using the android issue SDK. Open a command window and link it to your SDK folder where ADB is located (typically Platform-Tools)
5. Once the Command window is linked to the folder, connect your device via USB and allow the connection. "
So if anyone can help me with as simple step by step ways to do it for new beginner that would be great.
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am also worried.. thats why i have bootloader locked.. am itching to unlock it... but in case of bootloop we need the moddified TOT file but it doesnt support USA phones.. they said to change name with hex editor program... one guy tried it and it bricked phone... if we had a working file for our h811 i would unlock it.. flash file ..try the relocking bootloader command and flash stock firmware and send to LG ... but no one has made moddified TOT or have make a video of relocking bootloader... i only see a thread that confirms it can be done...
do not update new 20o its antirollback V3.. youll be stuck in it for ever..
on 20i MM you cant unless you unlock bootloader....
but on LP 10n yes you can root it... and remove all crap..
20i MM and LP 10n its antirollback V2 you can switch to them .. lower then that will brick phone..
i could help.. if you want to use LP 10n.. to root.. as unlocking bootloader i have no idea...
LOL same here am not good a commands and adb shell stuff... but reading carefully and if doubt ask, then i can be done..
I just got this phone as well, I have heard that the last run units have the bootloop issue fixed but not sure if that is just LG propaganda. I got one manufactured April 2016 and it was the last one any of the stores local to me had in stock brand new in box. I mean I've only had it for a day and it already has 20o on it so hopefully I'm good. I have jump so it really only needs to last a year anyway.
scottyd035ntknow said:
I just got this phone as well, I have heard that the last run units have the bootloop issue fixed but not sure if that is just LG propaganda. I got one manufactured April 2016 and it was the last one any of the stores local to me had in stock brand new in box. I mean I've only had it for a day and it already has 20o on it so hopefully I'm good. I have jump so it really only needs to last a year anyway.
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some new phone have gotten bootloop.. and dont downgrade your phoen if on 20o its antirollback V3. you stuck there..
**I have a quick question about 20o since I'm seeing conflicting information on the forum: can we root/unlock bootloader if we're on 20o?
I see plenty of testimony for 20i though.
Astroballs said:
**I have a quick question about 20o since I'm seeing conflicting information on the forum: can we root/unlock bootloader if we're on 20o?
I see plenty of testimony for 20i though.
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Yeah you can. I'm doing it to mine tonight. I legit cannot stand the ads in my apps...
scottyd035ntknow said:
Yeah you can. I'm doing it to mine tonight. I legit cannot stand the ads in my apps...
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Yeah, ended up finding a method. I played too much with it though and now I'm having issues connecting to my LTE network. Oh well, live and learn I guess.
I doubt I'll do more than root and then use root explorer to force disable any apps I can't do normally. I get 7GB of free tethering per line with T-Mo as well so I don't even need a rom for the tether hack although if I start flying again and use my LTE as my internet source I might then... I routinely used over 100GB a month when I had verizon unlimited a few years ago and was flying.
Hi, I have been seeing significant lag of my phone and various times to the point that my phone becomes inoperable for a period of time and after the phone recovers it never goes back to full speed., I have to restart. I'm stock not rooted anymore and recently formatted and started from scratch but see no improvement. This is especially annoying when running android auto at which point the phone and the app barely work. Any suggestions? I don't think its a better thing because i had it happen at 60 and at 40 though definitely see it more at 40 or less. Is there a good way to see what app might be causing this?
Install a different kernel. Stock is garbage
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I don't think k I want to root again.
You don't need root to install a custom kernel. In fact you don't even need to install TWRP. Using ADB you can flash the custom kernel. Just make sure you have USB debugging enabled in Developer Options and make sure your bootloader is unlocked.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You don't need root to install a custom kernel. In fact you don't even need to install TWRP. Using ADB you can flash the custom kernel. Just make sure you have USB debugging enabled in Developer Options and make sure your bootloader is unlocked.
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Same exact issue here. F*** Google for screwing up our stock phones and not fixing them. What would you suggest for a kernal and rom. It has been a long time since I was rooted with a custom rom but I can't take this for another day.
jspector said:
Same exact issue here. F*** Google for screwing up our stock phones and not fixing them. What would you suggest for a kernal and rom. It has been a long time since I was rooted with a custom rom but I can't take this for another day.
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Hello... I think all ROMs perform the same in term of fluidity and speed. Some have different features and customization options. I run Pure Nexus on my N6, N6P and Pixel XL. All use ElementalX kernel. I like this configuration. But there is a lot of different possibilities.
I suggest you to look at the forum and read a little bit the first posts of the different ROMs/kernels and see what they have to offer. :good:
Good luck...
I've had this same exact issue. I thought about switching back to MM because I had great battery life on MM. I also thought about flashing Franco Kernel and go from there. It is one that has the option to hide that the bootloader is unlocked. I don't really want to have my bootloader unlocked, and I don't think I can make changes to the kernel easily without having it rooted, something else I also don't want to do. Maybe MM is the best option. Google is still sending out security updates for MM.
Well problem solved I should say. Used nexus root kit to root and install Pure nexus. Only issue I had was I had a gapps from 2015 that crashed everything so I reinstalled with a new gapps. Working great and the speed is back.
Then unless you wanted an old copy, you downloaded the wrong version of Pure Nexus. The latest version includes the Google apps in the ROM, eliminating the need to flash a GApps package.
Hi I've been using a custom rom for quite some time now but I decided to go back to stock as I don't really see the benefits.
the issue I'm having is despite flashing a stock rom in Odin and seemingly completely unrooting the device, apps like google pay aren't allowing me to use them as they say the device has been rooted or modified in some way.
in the settings it clearly says my device is official status, does anyone know how to overcome this issue please? I prefer to use google pay to my cards as I often lose them if I take them out
thanks
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Hi I've been using a custom rom for quite some time now but I decided to go back to stock as I don't really see the benefits.
the issue I'm having is despite flashing a stock rom in Odin and seemingly completely unrooting the device, apps like google pay aren't allowing me to use them as they say the device has been rooted or modified in some way.
in the settings it clearly says my device is official status, does anyone know how to overcome this issue please? I prefer to use google pay to my cards as I often lose them if I take them out
thanks
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well it was probably written in every thread when you downloaded twrp and followed the guide to root that this was going to happen. its pretty wide spread knowledge if you'd care to have investigate a bit before jumping ship. been like this for years and years so nothing new or "hidden".
reading goes a long way. even now if you'd have taken a minute to investigate you'd see the futility of what you want to accomplish. ( going to stock and expecting it to be as it once was before knox was tripped)
moreover there are guides on how to hide google pay and installing a version that does not detect root or a modified system.
search is your friend.
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there is one thing that i just though of that you might have forgotten to do and just might work though.
during the rooting/twrp process you had to go to dev options and toggle the OEM unlock.
go there and lock back OEM. this will wipe device so beware.
also when you fully flashed back the 4 md5 files with odin, was data wiped?