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[Q] Should I try Stock Andoroid before CM12?

My Nexus 6 has finally shipped! It should be here Friday!
This is my first Nexus and I have never rooted, unlocked, flashed, etc. any of my previous phones.
I have been doing a lot of research and have been considering running CM12.
My question is, should I run my Nexus 6 with stock android for a few weeks and then try CM12? Or should I just root, unlock, and flash CM12 as soon as I get it?
I know that if I wait then I will need to back up all my data because it will factory data reset but I am not worried about that... I understand it is easier to do it right out of the box because you don't have to worry about loosing anything but I can just back my info/apps up so that isn't a big deal.
Also, would you guys suggest something over CM12? Right now I am planning on using CM12 and just getting it setup how I like it then leaving it. I don't plan on always flashing and making changes but I might get sucked into it lol
Thanks everyone!

Has CM moved to 5. 1 yet?
What version android came your phone?
Depending on those two answers you have to ask yourself if you want to downgrade your phone. At least version wise
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ

DebianDog said:
Has CM moved to 5. 1 yet?
What version android came your phone?
Depending on those two answers you have to ask yourself if you want to downgrade your phone. At least version wise
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
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Good point! I don't know if CM is on 5.1 yet. I just assumed it was but I will look into it. This is all new to me so thanks for pointing that out, didn't even think about that!
I won't know what version is on the phone until Friday. But even if it is on 5.0 I am sure it will notify me that 5.1 is ready to download as soon as I boot up the phone.

On my other phones I usually got rid of the stock and was on a custom ROM a pretty quick. I have tried a few ROMs on this phone as well. in my experience if you want to be on 5 .1 currently the best way to go is stock with debloating . Or use one of the clean/vanilla ROMs. Of course I did not test them all there are so many out there. Good luck with your new toy.
I will try CM after its been out a few weeks on 5 .1
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I'd recommend updating to 5.1 if it doesn't ship with 5.1. Then, I'd run stock for at least a few days to get a baseline for comparison. I think this is useful especially for bugs. That way you can get an idea of the issues that exist in stock 5.1 before using a custom ROM.

DebianDog said:
On my other phones I usually got rid of the stock and was on a custom ROM a pretty quick. I have tried a few ROMs on this phone as well. in my experience if you want to be on 5 .1 currently the best way to go is stock with debloating . Or use one of the clean/vanilla ROMs. Of course I did not test them all there are so many out there. Good luck with your new toy.
I will try CM after its been out a few weeks on 5 .1
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Okay, thanks for the info!
Since I ordered my phone directly from Google, do I need to debloat? Or is that just for carrier versions?

mlin said:
I'd recommend updating to 5.1 if it doesn't ship with 5.1. Then, I'd run stock for at least a few days to get a baseline for comparison. I think this is useful especially for bugs. That way you can get an idea of the issues that exist in stock 5.1 before using a custom ROM.
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Another great point! I knew you guys were the people to ask! lol
What about rooting and unlocking? Would you suggest waiting on that as well? Is there really any reason to unlock and root if I won't be running CM? I was going to root so that I could decrypte but it sounds like the lag from encryption is fixed in 5.1.

Well I would guess you WILL want to unlock and root because who does want to be able to run a root level ad blocker? Who wants to wait on OTA for an update? Not me.
I got mine from Google, as well, and heres what I did:
Played with the phone in stock form for like an hour saw it was still on 5.01 even after updating
Decided this is not for me. I wanted my root apps and I wanted to copy all the stuff off my old phone with Titanium backup to the Nexus
Looked on the interwebs for the easiest way to get root
Found a tool from my old buddy WugFresh (I knew him in the Droid X days)
Prepared myself for a giant PITA night. Download, drivers, and programs, reading various sites, etc, etc, etc
Was freaking SHOCKED that the tool did ALL THIS for me. I mean I literally plugged in my phone and it collected and set up everything. (It also has a console if you feel the need to type in adb commands)
Was unlocked, upgraded, rooted with a custom recovery with all my apps copied over in less than an hour
Sent Wuggy some $$$ and a thank-you note
You only need to decrypt, IMO, if you are running high end games that demand that level of performance. I have not seen any lag myself. Again this is my own personal experience. Your results may vary. 5.1 has optimized out many of the issues I heard about in 5.01 or so I have been told.

CFrance said:
Another great point! I knew you guys were the people to ask! lol
What about rooting and unlocking? Would you suggest waiting on that as well? Is there really any reason to unlock and root if I won't be running CM? I was going to root so that I could decrypte but it sounds like the lag from encryption is fixed in 5.1.
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I unlocked and rooted right away, mainly for the ability to use Titanium Backup to setup my phone and in the event that I installed a custom ROM. Outside of TB, I haven't really needed or used root, but it sure is nice to have. I played with a few custom ROMs before 5.1 came out but mostly felt that I preferred the stock experience. I downloaded the MCR modpack found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58019266&postcount=1 but have yet to install it. If/when I do, root will become more of a requirement for my uses.
I came from a Verizon Note 4 which could not be rooted. I got used to not playing with my phone and just using the stock experience. Its nice that the stock experience on the N6 is so fantastic and stable. It makes it easy to just use the phone without worry of fixing, modding, and adding features, though I still enjoy those aspects too which is why I'll likely use MultiROM next time I decide to install something custom.

Dude are you somehow tied up with this Tool Kit? You`re promoting it on so many threads i`am starting to get the impression you`re not quite objective about it There is no harm in using toolkits by xperienced users and i`am sure its well build, but for newbies its very dangerous because they`re lost if something should go wrong.

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Dude are you somehow tied up with this Tool Kit? You`re promoting it on so many threads i`am starting to get the impression you`re not quite objective about it There is no harm in using toolkits by xperienced users and i`am sure its well build, but for newbies its very dangerous because they`re lost if something should go wrong.
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Which is exactly why I'm promoting it it is almost bulletproof. what's the alternative loading all the different tools and drivers they need and following some instructions found on the internet.
And as I explained in my post you can just download the tool to make sure you have all the drivers and connections. use it to get the proper files you need and then run the command line like a power user if you want to feel better about yourself.
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ

DebianDog said:
Which is exactly why I'm promoting it it is almost bulletproof. what's the alternative loading all the different tools and drivers they need and following some instructions found on the internet.
And as I explained in my post you can just download the tool to make sure you have all the drivers and connections. use it to get the proper files you need and then run the command line like a power user if you want to feel better about yourself.
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I will never use/promote a Toolkit even if it seems very good for the reason i posted earlier. Flashing manualy in fastboot doesn`t take more time and makes users more aware about their phone and knowledge of it and gives you control over whats happening Just my 2 cents.

My two cents. I don't think you've dealt with enough newbies. on another forum it was me and a group of others that would help people get their phones out of boot loops and soft bricks. I have literally helped hundreds of people get their phone back.
even if you look here on XDA you'll see people trying to flash the wrong files download files that are not even for their phone, are following a dated instruction or don't really understand how directories work.
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ

DebianDog said:
Well I would guess you WILL want to unlock and root because who does want to be able to run a root level ad blocker? Who wants to wait on OTA for an update? Not me.
I got mine from Google, as well, and heres what I did:
Played with the phone in stock form for like an hour saw it was still on 5.01 even after updating
Decided this is not for me. I wanted my root apps and I wanted to copy all the stuff off my old phone with Titanium backup to the Nexus
Looked on the interwebs for the easiest way to get root
Found a tool from my old buddy WugFresh (I knew him in the Droid X days)
Prepared myself for a giant PITA night. Download, drivers, and programs, reading various sites, etc, etc, etc
Was freaking SHOCKED that the tool did ALL THIS for me. I mean I literally plugged in my phone and it collected and set up everything. (It also has a console if you feel the need to type in adb commands)
Was unlocked, upgraded, rooted with a custom recovery with all my apps copied over in less than an hour
Sent Wuggy some $$$ and a thank-you note
You only need to decrypt, IMO, if you are running high end games that demand that level of performance. I have not seen any lag myself. Again this is my own personal experience. Your results may vary. 5.1 has optimized out many of the issues I heard about in 5.01 or so I have been told.
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Thanks for the info! I actually had just downloaded this program over the weekend and was planning on using it once I do decide to root... which I am thinking will be as soon as I get the phone. lol other than that I think I am going to run it on stock for a while at first and wait until CM is on 5.1 for a while....

mlin said:
I unlocked and rooted right away, mainly for the ability to use Titanium Backup to setup my phone and in the event that I installed a custom ROM. Outside of TB, I haven't really needed or used root, but it sure is nice to have. I played with a few custom ROMs before 5.1 came out but mostly felt that I preferred the stock experience. I downloaded the MCR modpack found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58019266&postcount=1 but have yet to install it. If/when I do, root will become more of a requirement for my uses.
I came from a Verizon Note 4 which could not be rooted. I got used to not playing with my phone and just using the stock experience. Its nice that the stock experience on the N6 is so fantastic and stable. It makes it easy to just use the phone without worry of fixing, modding, and adding features, though I still enjoy those aspects too which is why I'll likely use MultiROM next time I decide to install something custom.
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Thanks! I am planning on rooting and unlocking right away for TB and maybe a couple other little things like lightflow just for fun. Being the nerd that I am, I have a feeling that once I start playing with the whole rooting, unlocking, and flashing stuff I am going to really enjoy it.

gee2012 said:
I will never use/promote a Toolkit even if it seems very good for the reason i posted earlier. Flashing manualy in fastboot doesn`t take more time and makes users more aware about their phone and knowledge of it and gives you control over whats happening Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for the reply! I see what you are saying, I had already come across Wug's toolkit over the weekend and was planning on using that because it seemed so simple.
However, seeing how I still have two and a half days until my phone will be here, maybe I will look into the manual way a little more to decide which route I want to go.... Any suggestions on where to start? Threads, videos, etc?
Thanks!

Boot into download mode, Unlock bootloader, reboot, boot back into download mode, fastboot twrp recovery, boot into recovery, reboot via recovery and install su when prompted. When you boot into android you will be prompted to update su. You now are rooted. Only other thing I would think about when you first get your device is if you want forced encryption. You will be required to wipe SD data if you decide to go with non forced encryption.
I loved cm on my previous touchwiz devices because I like stock/asop style. I find cm has bugs in early os update releases. I would only install cm if i took advantage of themes which I don't.

CFrance said:
Any suggestions on where to start? Threads, videos, etc?
Thanks!
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You can waste a lot of time while you're waiting for your phone in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2992769
ROM Reviews (5.1) + Nexus 6 Hacking: NRT · Apps · Utilities [3.22.15]
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Just picked up this device, any tips?

So I've been out of the Android Phone loop for a while and was just wondering if there were any general tips or things to know about the Z3C? Any essential apps or features?
I've not updated to Marshmallow yet (running 5.1.1) and I don't really feel the need to, If I'm not mistaken it makes the root process a bit more fiddly, though the non-removable notification is somewhat annoying. Can it be turned off?
Quick question on root too, which I assume can only be achieved through unlocking the bootloader. Will it void my warranty with Sony? Given the issues with cracked screens and phones not really being waterproof, I'm not sure if it's actually worth doing.
I've got the Phone through Vodafone, is there anyway to remove the SIM lock myself?
I've been through the Stickies and whilst they contain useful information that'll surely come in handy later, the FAQ section is pretty limited, so I figured I'd ask here
Thanks in advance

UndisputedGuy said:
So I've been out of the Android Phone loop for a while and was just wondering if there were any general tips or things to know about the Z3C? Any essential apps or features?
I've not updated to Marshmallow yet (running 5.1.1) and I don't really feel the need to, If I'm not mistaken it makes the root process a bit more fiddly, though the non-removable notification is somewhat annoying. Can it be turned off?
Quick question on root too, which I assume can only be achieved through unlocking the bootloader. Will it void my warranty with Sony? Given the issues with cracked screens and phones not really being waterproof, I'm not sure if it's actually worth doing.
I've got the Phone through Vodafone, is there anyway to remove the SIM lock myself?
I've been through the Stickies and whilst they contain useful information that'll surely come in handy later, the FAQ section is pretty limited, so I figured I'd ask here
Thanks in advance
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You don't need to unlock the bootloader to be able to root your phone. A good place to start is the thread on how to back up your TA partition and rooting (don't be tempted by Kingroot)
Unless you want a custom CM rom I wouldn't bother trying to unlock your bootloader, it disables features on the phone, starting with breaking the camera.
This thread about going from a rooted phone back to stock is interesting. I'd say you don't need to root your phone, but it gets a lot more interesting when you do.
The top app for if you get root is Titanium Backup, it lets you control individual apps, 'freezing' them so they stop working, but not actually uninstalling them. Great for getting rid of all the bloatware that comes with phone providers (like Sim Lock), or even manufacturers. It also lets you back up an app and all the associated data that goes with it, so if you wipe you phone to change the rom, you can put all the apps back and the state they were in at the touch of a button. There's lots of other cool root apps, but TA is my favourite.
As long as you stick to stock then you can't go wrong, don't be afraid to play, there's plenty of people on the thread here to give you a hand.
SLIM 5 is a good stock 5.1.1 rom with lots of cool tweeks and doesn't mean you have to unlock your bootloader.
Edit: Rooting your phone doesn't void your warranty. But if you face any problems with your phone that means it's going back to the service centre, just put a stock build back on (no root) and do a factory reset. That way they cannot complain about the software config. They will do a factory reset anyway, before they send it back, along with an update to the latest rom. So be prepared and take everything off your phone beforehand.

Man, that's pretty much all the information I need in one post. Thanks a bunch man, I'll read through the links in some more detail.
I did see that Rooting guide earlier, but given how it mentioned using Flashtool and DRM Keys, I thought it'd surely void my warranty so didn't have a proper look.
SLIM also seems like a good shout, though I'm assuming I'd lose access to Sony's OTA updates if I were to flash it and there doesn't seem to be a Marshmallow version yet. Actually, that said, would I even have access to OTA updates if I stay stock but rooted?
Thanks again

UndisputedGuy said:
Man, that's pretty much all the information I need in one post. Thanks a bunch man, I'll read through the links in some more detail.
I did see that Rooting guide earlier, but given how it mentioned using Flashtool and DRM Keys, I thought it'd surely void my warranty so didn't have a proper look.
SLIM also seems like a good shout, though I'm assuming I'd lose access to Sony's OTA updates if I were to flash it and there doesn't seem to be a Marshmallow version yet. Actually, that said, would I even have access to OTA updates if I stay stock but rooted?
Thanks again
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Marshmallow has only been out a few weeks, so it's still full of bugs and problems at the moment. I would stick to 5.1.1. for at least another month, or until 6.1 reaches the Z3c.
No, if you install a custom rom then you wont get Sony OTA updates, but most rom developers base their builds on the latest firmware releases anyway, usually adopting a new release within one or two weeks.
Slim 5 is possibly the best stock Lollipop build there is and there will be no more updates for Lollopop now. There is a Slim MM build, but even though Wajk has been working his magic, it still has several bugs that need to be ironed out. If you are going down the MM route, don't be tempted by Concept or Beta, that need you to unlock your bootloader to root. Stick with a pre-rooted stock or a customised stock with root built in.

Appreciate the assistance, going to go ahead and root now and then perhaps try out SLIM 5. Some of the MEGA links seemed to be down so I just grabbed a Global FTF, couldn't seem to find an unbranded UK one.
I shouldn't have updated immediately once I got the phone

UndisputedGuy said:
Appreciate the assistance, going to go ahead and root now and then perhaps try out SLIM 5. Some of the MEGA links seemed to be down so I just grabbed a Global FTF, couldn't seem to find an unbranded UK one.
I shouldn't have updated immediately once I got the phone
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For the purposes of downgrading so you can root, it really doesn't matter which build you choose.

Didgesteve said:
For the purposes of downgrading so you can root, it really doesn't matter which build you choose.
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Just a quick question, at Step 26 could I just use SLIM 5? Seems much more convenient if that's the case.
Oh, and using OTA updates is going to lose me my root now, right?

UndisputedGuy said:
Just a quick question, at Step 26 could I just use SLIM 5? Seems much more convenient if that's the case.
Oh, and using OTA updates is going to lose me my root now, right?
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Yes, once you have recovery you can download Slim onto your phone and flash that. Don't forget to update SuperSU from the playstore.
No, you wont get any OTA updates with a custom stock, but Slim is up to date with the most recent Lollipop build.
Sony PC Companion will not update your phone either once you have a custom rom on. If you flash stock and then connect it, it will push MM onto it. But you will loose root and there's no easy way to get it working.
Stick with 5.1.1. for another month, wait for 6.1 to come out, and then possibly a couple of weeks after that Wajik will have made an incredible MM rom to flash, that will be as up to date as they come, then just flash that in exactly the same way.
Edit: Once you start to follow a developers thread, they announce updates to roms almost as quick as the Sony release, so don't worry that it will get out of date, just make sure to subscribe to the thread where your rom comes from. Slim 5 for example releases an OTA update, to move from 4.9 to 5, it's a lot smaller than the entire rom and only has updates, but flashes the same way.

Can only thank you again, successfully rooted and got recovery. Not sure how much I'm really fond of SLIM, just had a very brief mess around but something felt a bit off about the Launcher and the icons even after messing with the settings. It was only very brief though, perhaps there's more useful stuff there.
Might go simply stock/rooted but given there isn't a simple .zip for it it's a bit long winded
Thanks for all your help here, this is pretty much the ideal state I wanted my phone to be in upon receiving it, had no idea unlocking the bootloader wouldn't be necessary. Guys like you help make this site in my opinion, I half just expected a couple of snide answers telling me to just read the forum

Think I will be moving back to stock, just a question on the front though
Am I going to have to build my own pre rooted image (steps 27-32) each time there's an OTA update and I want rooted stock?
Sorry, hopefully that's the last thing from me
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UndisputedGuy said:
Think I will be moving back to stock, just a question on the front though
Am I going to have to build my own pre rooted image (steps 27-32) each time there's an OTA update and I want rooted stock?
Sorry, hopefully that's the last thing from me
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There are several 'stock' options, that are flashable zips
Pre-Rooted Firmwares-Recovery-SuperSU, although you need to click on 'older files'
Or another stock thread here
But by now you should be able to start finding these threads on your own

Yeah, I've time to have a proper look through now so will do that. I saw the thread earlier, but didn't seem to notice a pre rooted .zip for the latest 5.1.1 firmware in the OP. There was one in the comments though, thanks once again

new bootloader and aosp rom WiFi issues confusion

So I've been out of the game for so long. Just lurking here and there but not much motivation to dive in again. I've always read and researched before trying anything. Anyways, I successfully rooted my tombola note 4 after I had received the stock July security mm update which I guess also updated the bootloader and modem. Prior to doing anything I installed 12.1 and the gaps. Everything was working fine after a clean flash. Got home and notice the WiFi toggle was taking forever to load or crash completely but never actually connecting. I then read and dub through pages on the cm remix page and saw people talking about downgrading the bootloader to epe3. My confusion is. I want to eun an aoso rom. I have my headaches with tw. Is it absolutely necessary to downgrade the bootloader AND modem to epe3 from latest or is there go g to be a fix in the future as roms get updated. Also can I used mobile Odin to do this. I only have a mac available and was only able to Odin to install twrp at my work pc which I shouldn't have used . Any help would be appreciated.

monkeypaws said:
So I've been out of the game for so long. Just lurking here and there but not much motivation to dive in again. I've always read and researched before trying anything. Anyways, I successfully rooted my tombola note 4 after I had received the stock July security mm update which I guess also updated the bootloader and modem. Prior to doing anything I installed 12.1 and the gaps. Everything was working fine after a clean flash. Got home and notice the WiFi toggle was taking forever to load or crash completely but never actually connecting. I then read and dub through pages on the cm remix page and saw people talking about downgrading the bootloader to epe3. My confusion is. I want to eun an aoso rom. I have my headaches with tw. Is it absolutely necessary to downgrade the bootloader AND modem to epe3 from latest or is there go g to be a fix in the future as roms get updated. Also can I used mobile Odin to do this. I only have a mac available and was only able to Odin to install twrp at my work pc which I shouldn't have used . Any help would be appreciated.
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If you have a T3, then probably you are out of luck and won't be able to downgrade your bootloader.
For now, you would need to stick with TW MM roms only if you need a working wifi., and just wait till CM is supported by new EPG2 bootloader.

pvsgh said:
If you have a T3, then probably you are out of luck and won't be able to downgrade your bootloader.
For now, you would need to stick with TW MM roms only if you need a working wifi., and just wait till CM is supported by new EPG2 bootloader.
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I'm on the other model. I found out I can use flash fire but the settings don't always stick. I'll just wait until the devs update to include the new bootloader. For now I can use cm 12.1 . I really despise tw . I only got the note 4 for price and rooting ability. I got it prowled for cheap. Plus removable battery and SD card.

pvsgh said:
If you have a T3, then probably you are out of luck and won't be able to downgrade your bootloader.
For now, you would need to stick with TW MM roms only if you need a working wifi., and just wait till CM is supported by new EPG2 bootloader.
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According to fattire theres not likely going to be any further support for the Note 4 unless someone else steps up. Especially the way the binaries are set up would take a lot of work to get to play nicely with CM and AOSP ROMs.

Canadian P20 Pro version CLT-L04, Questions about Magisk and bootloader unlock

Hi! I picked up my Canadian P20 Pro last week and couldn't be happier. It's been many years since I've owned a rootable device though and a lot has changed! I've done my best to read through all the guides for rooting the P20 Pro and it's only lead to further confusion as there seem to be many recent advancements. There seem to be a lot of different versions of this phone too. So I have some questions I'm hoping someone can answer easily! Let's assume my bootloader is already unlocked....
1) there's a really great guide on rooting the P20 Pro using All In One tool. But that requires flashing TWRP to achieve root using Magisk. I do not require TWRP as I only want root and do not wish to flash any roms.
a) is there a way to root with Magisk and NOT flash TWRP? I can't seem to find a straight answer on this...
b) failing that, can TWRP safely be removed and keep root afterward?
2) after unlocking the bootloader I was welcomed by a terrifyingly orange warning about my now 'unsafe' phone. I've read mixed things on hiding this. Is there currently a way to hide it?
3) how does the process work for OTA updates on an unlocked bootloader assuming there is no TWRP? I've read differing opinions on the necessity of flashing a no_check.img to the ramdisk and have no understanding of the new security checks on these phones. Can I run risk of bricking my phone through an automated update?
Ultimately I'm scared of forgetting TWRP is on my phone and accepting an update that'll brick it. Any information is welcome as are similar questions!

I am also curious if there is a good root process for this phone. Find anything yet?

djparent said:
Hi! I picked up my Canadian P20 Pro last week and couldn't be happier. It's been many years since I've owned a rootable device though and a lot has changed! I've done my best to read through all the guides for rooting the P20 Pro and it's only lead to further confusion as there seem to be many recent advancements. There seem to be a lot of different versions of this phone too. So I have some questions I'm hoping someone can answer easily! Let's assume my bootloader is already unlocked....
1) there's a really great guide on rooting the P20 Pro using All In One tool. But that requires flashing TWRP to achieve root using Magisk. I do not require TWRP as I only want root and do not wish to flash any roms.
a) is there a way to root with Magisk and NOT flash TWRP? I can't seem to find a straight answer on this...
b) failing that, can TWRP safely be removed and keep root afterward?
2) after unlocking the bootloader I was welcomed by a terrifyingly orange warning about my now 'unsafe' phone. I've read mixed things on hiding this. Is there currently a way to hide it?
3) how does the process work for OTA updates on an unlocked bootloader assuming there is no TWRP? I've read differing opinions on the necessity of flashing a no_check.img to the ramdisk and have no understanding of the new security checks on these phones. Can I run risk of bricking my phone through an automated update?
Ultimately I'm scared of forgetting TWRP is on my phone and accepting an update that'll brick it. Any information is welcome as are similar questions!
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I have a Canadian CLT-L04 that i rebranded and rooted to CLT-L29 with the guide on here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...de-how-to-root-debrand-remove-retail-t3788326
if you want better firmware compared to version 109 thats still on clt-l04 you can follow this guide, it worked well for me. (don't wait canadian OTA it'll take too long)
1) quite sure that TWRP is the easiest and safest way to root. Currently unaware of a better way to root the phone.
b) if you remove TWRP by flashing a stock recovery_ramdisk, root is kept. If you do an OTA though you might lose root.
2) thats here to stay i believe. Cannot find a way to hide it currently.
3)In this guide under the "install an OTA Stock Update: PC Method" you will find all the information you need.
cheers

I finally found the info I needed in this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...ide-getting-started-unlock-twrp-root-t3806180
Overall it was a very simple process and took less than an hour including reading. Once you've got your bootloader unlock code the all in one tool handles it from there. Unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP, reboot into TWRP, flash Magisk and you're done. You can flash the no_check file over TWRP if you want to be ready for updates but I decided to leave TWRP on for now. Loving having root on this phone so far!

On a different note, has anyone discovered any ROMs for this phone yet that can handle the notch? I almost tried Lineage until I found out there is no notch support. I've grown strangely fond of the thing for some reason lol

rhinogator said:
I have a Canadian CLT-L04 that i rebranded and rooted to CLT-L29 with the guide on here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...de-how-to-root-debrand-remove-retail-t3788326
if you want better firmware compared to version 109 thats still on clt-l04 you can follow this guide, it worked well for me. (don't wait canadian OTA it'll take too long)
1) quite sure that TWRP is the easiest and safest way to root. Currently unaware of a better way to root the phone.
b) if you remove TWRP by flashing a stock recovery_ramdisk, root is kept. If you do an OTA though you might lose root.
2) thats here to stay i believe. Cannot find a way to hide it currently.
3)In this guide under the "install an OTA Stock Update: PC Method" you will find all the information you need.
cheers
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Did you by any chance find a way to go back to CLT-L04 by any chance?

mrnovanova said:
Did you by any chance find a way to go back to CLT-L04 by any chance?
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unfortunately no

mrnovanova said:
Did you by any chance find a way to go back to CLT-L04 by any chance?
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If you do a full backup of the L04 in TWRP before rebranding you should be able to go back to it easily at any time, just remember to save it somewhere safe other than the phone itself. If you've already flashed and are looking to go back you may find someone willing to share a stock backup if you ask around. But always best to do your own backup first, then you can go back whenever you like!

djparent said:
If you do a full backup of the L04 in TWRP before rebranding you should be able to go back to it easily at any time, just remember to save it somewhere safe other than the phone itself. If you've already flashed and are looking to go back you may find someone willing to share a stock backup if you ask around. But always best to do your own backup first, then you can go back whenever you like!
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I never thought of backing up my L04. ??? I guess I'm stuck with L29. Oh well... Thanks for the reply.

help with rebranding tutorial
mrnovanova said:
I never thought of backing up my L04. I guess I'm stuck with L29. Oh well... Thanks for the reply.
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bro did u use the same files as the main tutorial that you share? cause I have the L04 but the mexican one, and I want to rebrand it
but i'm a noob in this things, hope you can help me.:good:

Search for dladz's tutorial.
ON THIS THREAD : https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...to-root-debrand-remove-retail-t3788326/page46
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Anyone unlocked bootloader and rooted recently for the L04 model with 120(C792) Sept-2018 update?
Im scared to update before unlocking and rooting as the update might do something to fastboot etc. (this has happened to LG)
If not, then Ill update but if so, Ill just not update and unlock it as it is.

JF-GINO said:
Anyone unlocked bootloader and rooted recently for the L04 model with 120(C792) Sept-2018 update?
Im scared to update before unlocking and rooting as the update might do something to fastboot etc. (this has happened to LG)
If not, then Ill update but if so, Ill just not update and unlock it as it is.
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It's really easy to update once you've unlocked, I would suggest unlocking first if you have concerns. I have an L04 as well and just updated to 120 with no problems.

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It's really easy to update once you've unlocked, I would suggest unlocking first if you have concerns. I have an L04 as well and just updated to 120 with no problems.
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Hey, Thanks djparent, I unlocked and updated as you suggested.
Everything working properly, just need to root/twrp etc. now.
Thnaks again

No problem, glad it worked for you. I've soft bricked and recovered my phone a few times now experimenting so if you run into any problems I'm happy to help! Lots to learn with the P20.

I have a CLT-L04 8.1.0.136 C69 with October security patch from Mexico I want to rebrand it to CLT- L29 to get wifi calling and get rid of all the bloatware. Could I use this tutorial from dladz's tutorial:
ON THIS THREAD : https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...3788326/page46
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One of the notes mentions the following: I) ]NOTE*** If you are on a later firmware than 120, please do not attempt this guide!!
I have only rooted one phone before in my life so I am no expert. I do no want to mess up my phone becuse it is the only one that I have. Also If I unlock the boot loader and rebrand can i get OTAs and the upcoming Pie release? Thanks for the help!

LineageOS 15.1 on L04
I installed LineageOS 15.1 on my L04 with out any issue. Some things to consider. USB-C will only charge the device, Titanium Backup will install but doesn't get root access and you'll miss the camera application.

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I installed LineageOS 15.1 on my L04 with out any issue. Some things to consider. USB-C will only charge the device, Titanium Backup will install but doesn't get root access and you'll miss the camera application.
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Did you install it with a locked bootloader ? I really dont feel like paying for an unlock code. Would like to try Lineage though.

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Did you install it with a locked bootloader ? I really dont feel like paying for an unlock code. Would like to try Lineage though.
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I do have an unlocked bootloader. Truth is i'm addicted to Rom's lol. That in mind I have tried every Rom, kernel, flash-able zip within this Forum and I can't brick this thing. L04 Canadian. Lineage is the best Rom for our device.
Roms that work:
- Lineage - Hauwei camera can be installed and works, dark mode works well.
------- Doesn't work: USB-C audio, NFC, RAW Option in the camera, Second ear piece as speaker, main speaker works well.
- First Ever Android 9 - Being the first build it works well. (Note: When I installed this rom I never installed the RemoveEncryption-P20Pro.zip) Seemed to work just fine without it. I did run it just because I wanted to see if it would brick my phone. It didn't.
-------Doesn't work: Dark mode, NFC, RAW Option in camera, Second ear piece as speaker, main speaker works well, seems to kill TWRP. eRecovery needed to get TWRP to function.
- AOSP 9 - Berkeley-Flex - Do Not Use...not ready.

Vedrick said:
I do have an unlocked bootloader. Truth is i'm addicted to Rom's lol. That in mind I have tried every Rom, kernel, flash-able zip within this Forum and I can't brick this thing. L04 Canadian. Lineage is the best Rom for our device.
Roms that work:
- Lineage - Hauwei camera can be installed and works, dark mode works well.
------- Doesn't work: USB-C audio, NFC, RAW Option in the camera, Second ear piece as speaker, main speaker works well.
- First Ever Android 9 - Being the first build it works well. (Note: When I installed this rom I never installed the RemoveEncryption-P20Pro.zip) Seemed to work just fine without it. I did run it just because I wanted to see if it would brick my phone. It didn't.
-------Doesn't work: Dark mode, NFC, RAW Option in camera, Second ear piece as speaker, main speaker works well, seems to kill TWRP. eRecovery needed to get TWRP to function.
- AOSP 9 - Berkeley-Flex - Do Not Use...not ready.
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What did you use to unlock your bootloader ? Funky ? Also I know what you mean I am addicted to Roms as well :laugh: Thanks for all the info I really appreciate it.

2020 Guide to Root the XZ1C ?

Hi there !
So for the first time in years of ownership, I am interested in Rooting.
Naturally I searched around here, but could only find 2017 and 2018 threads with many problems and various bugs.
For an April 2020 guy, rooting is stock latest ROM, and interested in keeping stock but go rooted (mostly to block some Android trash) - What is the easiest way, can I have a link that is updated, or a paid tool I can buy and not mess with anything ?
Thanks a lot !

baboon23 said:
What is the easiest way, can I have a link that is updated
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Crack on - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...devonly-exploits-temp-root-to-backup-t3795510

SXUsr said:
Crack on - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...devonly-exploits-temp-root-to-backup-t3795510
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Too much mess for my blood !
How much would It be to hire your service via screenshare ?
PM me please
Keep in mind I only want a root so I can disable some stock google trash with F-Droid apps.... I don't really need a new ROM, or do I ?

I rooted mine on stock just a few weeks ago.
All I did was unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP, then flash the latest magisk. I then used Titanium Backup to remove the bloat. It was quick and painless.

Thanks !
Which thread did you use as guide/link glossary ?

I didn't use a guide, just did it based on experience rooting my Sony devices from before. But I can write up something brief. How much knowledge do you have rooting devices?

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Too much mess for my blood !
How much would It be to hire your service via screenshare ?
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I wouldn't want to do it that way, and if you do it yourself you'll gain a little experience which makes restoring or further modding easier.
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Keep in mind I only want a root so I can disable some stock google trash with F-Droid apps.... I don't really need a new ROM, or do I ?
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If you want to root you need to unlock the bootloader, if you're unlocking your BL then it's advised to backup your DRM keys and restore them after unlocking your BL which is a one time process. Everything you need is in the thread I've linked to above.

Thanks SX. I have seen a lot of your work around here doing searches, and I'm honored that you reply to my question
I will have a crack at it, I have done those things before but I remember not leaving the house for a few days, so it scarred me a bit
Haha
One last question if I may.... Do you believe that installing Lineage with no google on the xz1c is worth it? I guess it's a general question, but what I'm really asking is, should I even bother with rooting for privacy if my end goal isn't to flash Lineage ?

OK, after some more research, I have decided that what I really want to do is just install the 17v LineageOS version for the XZ1C.... It is my understanding it is possible without a root. ?
For sure the bootloader needs unlocking and TWRP to backup/flash correct ?
Super SU, does that make my procedure easier in any way ?
It is my understanding that if I flash a Lineage OS after unlocking via code and flashing TWRP, then the camera and all will still work.
Considering I don't mind binning that phone if I get sick of Lineage (I have like four of those in a box) - Can I skip the TA backup and restore ?
Apologies for the newb questioning, just trying to "get the hang" of it so I actually understand what i'm doing rather than just follow guides.
I'm a bit older than all you guys so forgive me

I'm running lineage 16.1 on root with unlocked bootloader without restoring TA. But I didn't care about preserving the keys. Yes camera works great and everything is super stable.
You don't have to root lineage so if you need help best to narrow down what exactly you want to do as there are many possibilities.

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I'm running lineage 16.1 on root with unlocked bootloader without restoring TA. But I didn't care about preserving the keys. Yes camera works great and everything is super stable.
You don't have to root lineage so if you need help best to narrow down what exactly you want to do as there are many possibilities.
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Absolutely, you're right !
I will be as specific as I can:
Sony abandoned the XZ1C, so I want to swap to Lineage OS with a full heart with no Gapps (i'll manage).
Here is what I understand tell me if I am correct:
1. Unlock bootloader via sony website
2. Flash latest TWRP
3. Use it to flash 17.1 Lineage OS from the genius dude (mod punk?)
4. Happy days
5. If modpunk updates it, will I be able to update with no reformatting ?

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Absolutely, you're right !
I will be as specific as I can:
Sony abandoned the XZ1C, so I want to swap to Lineage OS with a full heart with no Gapps (i'll manage).
Here is what I understand tell me if I am correct:
1. Unlock bootloader via sony website
2. Flash latest TWRP
3. Use it to flash 17.1 Lineage OS from the genius dude (mod punk?)
4. Happy days
5. If modpunk updates it, will I be able to update with no reformatting ?
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Yep that's about right. Unlock bootloader with Flash Tool by getting unlock code from Sony. Flash TWRP in fastboot mode. Boot to TWRP and flash lineage 17.1. If you don't need gapps you're good to go.
As for lineage updates probably best to check with the thread. Usually you can dirty flash, i. e. flash new version over the old and it should be ok. Lastly check to see if they're are any major bugs with 17.1. Since it's so new there could be issues. 16.1 is smooth fast and stable if you ever need to go back to it.

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Yep that's about right. Unlock bootloader with Flash Tool by getting unlock code from Sony. Flash TWRP in fastboot mode. Boot to TWRP and flash lineage 17.1. If you don't need gapps you're good to go.
As for lineage updates probably best to check with the thread. Usually you can dirty flash, i. e. flash new version over the old and it should be ok. Lastly check to see if they're are any major bugs with 17.1. Since it's so new there could be issues. 16.1 is smooth fast and stable if you ever need to go back to it.
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Superb, thank you so much ! What a wonderful community. I feel like im stealing. I will be sure to donate !
One question, may I use adb tools for the bootloader ?

No problem. That one I'm not sure about. I've only used flash tool myself but adb tools should work with the right commands.

Yay for me !
Bootloader unlocked, onto recovery and LOS

I did it !
Thanks yall
I get this horrible " please lock the bootloader" greeting when I turn on the device, for 5 seconds.
Is that normal for everyone ?

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Considering I don't mind binning that phone if I get sick of Lineage (I have like four of those in a box) - Can I skip the TA backup and restore ?
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You've got 4 XZ1Cs in a box?
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I get this horrible " please lock the bootloader" greeting when I turn on the device, for 5 seconds.
Is that normal for everyone ?
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It is yes, you'll have to live with that unfortunately. In regards to the TA, I would have taken the time to back them up, that'll matter should you wish to return to stock. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. But you've achieved what you wanted to which is all that matters. :good:

Thank you sir !
You're probably right, I just couldn't be bothered... Sometimes 20 minutes more is like a life long more
Well, now that all is installed....
So when modpunk stopps working on the project (like sony stopped working on the xz1) - Will it be safe to just continue using the phone without updates at all ?
Or is the eventual doom of all ROM Flashers is to come back to stock (but then, it doesn't get updates anymore also...)
So does it matter in which platform I remain outdates ?
Re the XZ1's, I knew that this was going to be the last proper small phone so I made sure to stock. I plan to carry these into 2022 …….
Problem is, I think even in box without, the batteries will die out. So I'm not sure how smart I was when I got several.
All in all, for all phones I paid less than one iPhone so I'm pretty happy, but hopefully a lab can change the batteries on them.

baboon23 said:
Thank you sir !
You're probably right, I just couldn't be bothered... Sometimes 20 minutes more is like a life long more
Well, now that all is installed....
So when modpunk stopps working on the project (like sony stopped working on the xz1) - Will it be safe to just continue using the phone without updates at all ?
Or is the eventual doom of all ROM Flashers is to come back to stock (but then, it doesn't get updates anymore also...)
So does it matter in which platform I remain outdates ?
Re the XZ1's, I knew that this was going to be the last proper small phone so I made sure to stock. I plan to carry these into 2022 …….
Problem is, I think even in box without, the batteries will die out. So I'm not sure how smart I was when I got several.
All in all, for all phones I paid less than one iPhone so I'm pretty happy, but hopefully a lab can change the batteries on them.
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I believe it is recommended to charge lithium-ion batteries fully every other month or so to keep it healthy.
If you are rooted I recommend checking out the ACC magisk module and controller app. This allows the phone to stop charging when the battery level has reached a certain level. In the long run keeping your device charged between I think 80% - 20% will increase your battery longevity by 200% (sorry I don't remember the exact study this was from).
And I agree the XZ1c is the last proper small phone. I've rebuilt mine from one sold for parts from eBay and now it feels like new.
About the security:
If you want to you can keep a look out for specific vulnerabilities in Android after the last security patch released for the custom rom.
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin
But in general by not connecting to sketchy WiFi hotspots, being un-rooted, having se-linux on enforcing, and running af-wall (requires root permissions) or another firewall you should be good for a while.
I think it really depends on what security issues get discovered in the future and what vulnerabilities your specific use case opens you up to.

Hi guys !
What about DRM key backup ?
I need help if you have a solution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...de-to-install-lineageos-17-1-scratch-t4136195
Thanks you !