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Top man!
Any one got a working recovery and supersu/superuser that works with 4.2?
Since I've heard people losing 3G and stuff when they rooted, and I kinda don't want to have to set my stuff up again
WarningHPB said:
Top man!
Any one got a working recovery and supersu/superuser that works with 4.2?
Since I've heard people losing 3G and stuff when they rooted, and I kinda don't want to have to set my stuff up again
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You've probably heard that from idiots who don't know what they are doing.
The latest version of TWRP works perfectly fine with 4.2 (3G and not). I'm using it on my 3G without any issues.
And the previous 'su' binaries and apk's should be fine. Neither of them should cause any problems with the 3G functionality as they have nothing to do with it. I installed custom recovery and rooted mine the day I got it. Everything is perfect.
Also, absolute worst case scenario, if you do screw something up, it's easy to revert without losing all of your data.
Hmm...I don't consider myself an idiot but did nothing more sinister than root and flash CWM and lost cellular data functionality completely at random two days later (unknown baseband). Had about 6 Android devices before this going back to HTC Hero, flashed all sorts, and never seen anything like it. Eventually had to flash factory image to get it back. Not especially helpful as inexplicable and not reproduced but worth saying nonetheless.
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Hmm...I don't consider myself an idiot but did nothing more sinister than root and flash CWM and lost cellular data functionality completely at random two days later (unknown baseband). Had about 6 Android devices before this going back to HTC Hero, flashed all sorts, and never seen anything like it. Eventually had to flash factory image to get it back. Not especially helpful as inexplicable and not reproduced but worth saying nonetheless.
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FYI, there seems to be a sporadic bug in JB on my GNex where on certain reboots it says Unknown Baseband and IMEI in the About menu, and then on the next reboot it's fine. I am wondering if that same bug is cropping up on the N7, and it's just coincidentally happening on some people's devices after rooting, but it goes away later. On my GNex this issue is particularly noticeable if I gave the phone a full reboot from inside software (e.g. using the app Easy Reboot). Whereas a power off / power on does not as frequently run into this issue.
I'm looking forward to getting mine Ordered today and it shipped today! I'm going to give my 16gb (bought in Aug for $249 so no price mod for me ) to either my GF or my daughter. lol
Sorry for the OT post.. I'm just excited. It will be nice to not have to tether my N7 to my phone. I just switched to the shared data plan on AT&T so it will only cost me $10 to add the N7 to my plan
Just fired up my 3g and will root it tomorrow, is there anything really different in rooting this thing vs the 16gb, anything I should watch out for?
kitsunisan said:
Just fired up my 3g and will root it tomorrow, is there anything really different in rooting this thing vs the 16gb, anything I should watch out for?
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No, they are identical from a rooting perspective. However, they do run slightly different versions of the image, so if you wind up flashing stock, use the right one.
so first my success, i have managed to get root and a TWRP recovery.
now my question in menus im seeing horizontal lines that move with the landscape. so as the phone rotates the screen, the lines also rotate. maybe its just the background design but it seems really awkward to me that they would intend from these lighter brighter lines to be there
if someone would do me a HUGE favor and get me a stock JVP15S recovery? i flashed over mine with CWM before i could back it up and now i have a 34mg OTA update i cant take because of the custom recovery image
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if someone would do me a HUGE favor and get me a stock JVP15S recovery? i flashed over mine with CWM before i could back it up and now i have a 34mg OTA update i cant take because of the custom recovery image
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I'm not sure that you will find someone who can give you this file, cause it contains all personal data and apps.
death 90 said:
if someone would do me a HUGE favor and get me a stock JVP15S recovery? i flashed over mine with CWM before i could back it up and now i have a 34mg OTA update i cant take because of the custom recovery image
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I don't have my N7 yet, but on most Androids the stock recovery images do not vary much or at all between minor upgrades, so any stock recovery should be fine. Try the recovery.img inside the JOP40C image straight from Google. https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasigjop40c
Worst case if the update still won't take, flash both system and boot from the stock image too (this will unroot you but so would the OTA, and you can fix that later), and then you'll be stock enough for OTAs to work the next time it prompts.
philos64 said:
I'm not sure that you will find someone who can give you this file, cause it contains all personal data and apps.
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The recovery partition does not contain any personal data or apps. Everything personal is in /data.
philos64 said:
I'm not sure that you will find someone who can give you this file, cause it contains all personal data and apps.
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im pretty sure the "recovery" partition doesn't contain any of those things. i don't want a stock rom, i need stock a recovery. twrp allows you to back up certain partitions such as boot, cache, and recovery
cmstlist said:
I don't have my N7 yet, but on most Androids the stock recovery images do not vary much or at all between minor upgrades, so any stock recovery should be fine. Try the recovery.img inside the JOP40C image straight from Google. https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasigjop40c
Worst case if the update still won't take, flash both system and boot from the stock image too (this will unroot you but so would the OTA, and you can fix that later), and then you'll be stock enough for OTAs to work the next time it prompts.
The recovery partition does not contain any personal data or apps. Everything personal is in /data.
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i just downloaded that ill try flashing it now i downloaded the "Google Nexus 7 Toolkit" and while it didn't work for me, it did provide a JRo03d stock recovery which i flashed with fastboot and that recovery did not work. when you nexus 7 arrives i believe it would be possible to recover the stock recovery using "fastboot boot twrp-recovery", ALTHOUGH im not sure when you would execute the "backup recovery" if it would read the phones actual partition or the image you uploaded and booted on
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The recovery partition does not contain any personal data or apps. Everything personal is in /data.
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Sorry for my quick answer, I haven't seen the "recovery.img". that's file system.zip or tar which contains apps and data for restore
And if you want the Factory image, go to the thread : [Index] All for NEXUS 7 - "nakasig" - (GSM/HSPA+) , it is on, ready for download
ya i grabbed it thanks. what i don't understand is what the 34mg update is for? any ideas? i uploaded two shots, one settings page showing the build mine shipped with and the other is just the update screen i got showing size. Im about to flash the stock ROM from google now. we'll see how goes
the 34mg update was "signed-nakasig-JOP40C-from-JVP15S". i was able to flash the recovery from the stock ROM JOP40C and use that to patch through android and avoid flashing usuing TWRP
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im pretty sure the "recovery" partition doesn't contain any of those things. i don't want a stock rom, i need stock a recovery. twrp allows you to back up certain partitions such as boot, cache, and recovery
i just downloaded that ill try flashing it now i downloaded the "Google Nexus 7 Toolkit" and while it didn't work for me, it did provide a JRo03d stock recovery which i flashed with fastboot and that recovery did not work. when you nexus 7 arrives i believe it would be possible to recover the stock recovery using "fastboot boot twrp-recovery", ALTHOUGH im not sure when you would execute the "backup recovery" if it would read the phones actual partition or the image you uploaded and booted on
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Honestly don't try toolkits. Just don't, because you don't know what commands or files they are really flashing, and especially because they were written for the wi-fi version. The stock recovery from the wi-fi version is not guaranteed to be compatible with the 3G version.
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Sorry for my quick answer, I haven't seen the "recovery.img". that's file system.zip or tar which contains apps and data for restore
And if you want the Factory image, go to the thread : [Index] All for NEXUS 7 - "nakasig" - (GSM/HSPA+) , it is on, ready for download
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System.img is also devoid of personal information because to the standard end user it is write-protected. All the personal stuff is in the data partition.
death 90 said:
the 34mg update was "signed-nakasig-JOP40C-from-JVP15S". i was able to flash the recovery from the stock ROM JOP40C and use that to patch through android and avoid flashing usuing TWRP
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Glad it worked out for you. I had a feeling it was just going to give you JOP40C anyway.
So, I have been trying to root my 3G tablet (JOP40C), but have no luck. I installed TWRP and unlocked just fine using the Google Nexus 7 ToolKit 3.2. When I use the toolkit to root it seems like it is doing everything fine, reboots, and I do not see any errors during the process. However, when I access Titanium backup, or Root Checker it cannot gain root access. I have tried all the options in the toolkit and nothing is working. Can anyone give me some pointers? Thanks!
spongers said:
So, I have been trying to root my 3G tablet (JOP40C), but have no luck. I installed TWRP and unlocked just fine using the Google Nexus 7 ToolKit 3.2. When I use the toolkit to root it seems like it is doing everything fine, reboots, and I do not see any errors during the process. However, when I access Titanium backup, or Root Checker it cannot gain root access. I have tried all the options in the toolkit and nothing is working. Can anyone give me some pointers? Thanks!
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Yes - Don't use a toolkit!
Since you already have a custom recovery, put the attached file on your sdcard and install it using TWRP. Then you should be good to go.
Should I root my Nexus 6? Why or why not?
Would I be able to go back to 100% stock everything to have my warranty back? Or will people know I unlocked/rooted it?
Would I be able to un-brick my device? (Soft and hard?)
Would I be able to install OTA updates, or would I have to use custom roms?
I have been thinking of using the Nexus toolkit by Wugfresh, what order should I do everything in? I want to decrypt my phone as well.
Should i use the root toolkit or manually unlock and root using Command prompt?
Thank you all
You should post this in the Q & A section
Unlocking and rooting means custom rom, i think you have your answer
Use the toolkit by wugfresh. Simple and good.
C00lBeanz said:
Should I root my Nexus 6? Why or why not?
Would I be able to go back to 100% stock everything to have my warranty back? Or will people know I unlocked/rooted it?
Would I be able to un-brick my device? (Soft and hard?)
Would I be able to install OTA updates, or would I have to use custom roms?
I have been thinking of using the Nexus toolkit by Wugfresh, what order should I do everything in? I want to decrypt my phone as well.
Should i use the root toolkit or manually unlock and root using Command prompt?
Thank you all
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I am of the opinion that if you own a Nexus, you should root it.. it's too easy and development is awesome.
You could go back to 100% stock, yes. No on would ever be able to tell. You can do that in Wug's Toolkit.
You can undo a soft brick, hard bricks are hard to do on a Nexus.. don't do things you don't understand in Fastboot and you shouldn't hard brick. I dunno about undoing one of those, though.
You can't install OTA, but you can use Wug's toolkit or Fastboot to flash stock updates if you wish to go stock. If not, custom ROMs are updated to match whatever base (OTA) Google is currently using, so you would never be unable to update like on a locked phone like a Samsung because of root.
If you use the Kit, you should unlock your device, decrypt if you want to, if not no need, and install custom recovery with root, simple. It's very easy to do in Fastboot, though, and I would encourage you to learn.
wrongway213 said:
I am of the opinion that if you own a Nexus, you should root it.. it's too easy and development is awesome.
You could go back to 100% stock, yes. No on would ever be able to tell. You can do that in Wug's Toolkit.
You can undo a soft brick, hard bricks are hard to do on a Nexus.. don't do things you don't understand in Fastboot and you shouldn't hard brick. I dunno about undoing one of those, though.
You can't install OTA, but you can use Wug's toolkit or Fastboot to flash stock updates if you wish to go stock. If not, custom ROMs are updated to match whatever base (OTA) Google is currently using, so you would never be unable to update like on a locked phone like a Samsung because of root.
If you use the Kit, you should unlock your device, decrypt if you want to, if not no need, and install custom recovery with root, simple. It's very easy to do in Fastboot, though, and I would encourage you to learn.
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Thank you for answering all of my questions
But I read somewhere that you should decrypt the phone after everything is done like the recovery, ROM, or does it not matter when you decrypt it? Would it stay decrypted?
C00lBeanz said:
Thank you for answering all of my questions
But I read somewhere that you should decrypt the phone after everything is done like the recovery, ROM, or does it not matter when you decrypt it? Would it stay decrypted?
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No, it wouldn't even be possible to do it that way. You read exactly wrong, it's basically the opposite. You want to decrypt as soon as you unlock. Decrypting your phone formats your userdata, internal sd card at all, meaning it erases EVERYTHING on your phone. If you wish to decrypt, you want to do it after unlocking and before rooting and you always want to make sure to check if a ROM forces encryption before flashing it.. if you flash a ROM that forces encryption when you're decrypted it'll encrypt all your data. If you want to flash a ROM that forces encryption, make sure to flash it with a kernel that does not force encryption to remain unencrypted, Personally I just remain encrypted, easier and no performance difference Ive noticed, just read/write speeds and that has zero effect on use.
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No, it wouldn't even be possible to do it that way. You read exactly wrong, it's basically the opposite. You want to decrypt as soon as you unlock. Decrypting your phone formats your userdata, internal sd card at all, meaning it erases EVERYTHING on your phone. If you wish to decrypt, you want to do it after unlocking and before rooting and you always want to make sure to check if a ROM forces encryption before flashing it.. if you flash a ROM that forces encryption when you're decrypted it'll encrypt all your data. If you want to flash a ROM that forces encryption, make sure to flash it with a kernel that does not force encryption to remain unencrypted, Personally I just remain encrypted, easier and no performance difference Ive noticed, just read/write speeds and that has zero effect on use.
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Is CyanogenMod decrypted?
No, Cm forces encryption. If you want to remain decrypted on official CM nightlies you'll need to make sure you're flashing them with a custom kernel that does not force encryption. I recommend Franco personally but many kernels will work for that purpose.
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No, Cm forces encryption. If you want to remain decrypted on official CM nightlies you'll need to make sure you're flashing them with a custom kernel that does not force encryption. I recommend Franco personally but many kernels will work for that purpose.
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What is your recommended rom and kernel?
C00lBeanz said:
What is your recommended rom and kernel?
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Lots of good ROMs and kernels but feel free to look in my sig lol
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Lots of good ROMs and kernels but feel free to look in my sig lol
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Does dirty unicorns have forced decryption off? Or do I have to flash the kernel too?
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Does dirty unicorns have forced decryption off? Or do I have to flash the kernel too?
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I am running Dirty Unicorn as my Daily with Sensei Kernel, great battery and smooth. It does not force encryption with the Kernel that comes with it.
If you go to any Roms post it will 99% of the time tell you if it is forced or not.
I want to root my Nexus 6 running stock android 6.0.0 but not sure exactly how to do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
dbzturtle said:
I want to root my Nexus 6 running stock android 6.0.0 but not sure exactly how to do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Chainfire just released a new root for mm, http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
blueyes said:
Chainfire just released a new root for mm, http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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It says that it's experimental and will likely have bugs. is there a stable way to root? If not I don't mind waiting until there is.
dbzturtle said:
It says that it's experimental and will likely have bugs. is there a stable way to root? If not I don't mind waiting until there is.
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Fastboot flash twrp, and then flash 2.52superuser.sip in recovery. Look up wugfresh Nexus root toolkit, it'll explain the process.
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I rooted my N6 on Android 6.0 with 2.52 weeks ago and it's absolutely fine - I've seen no problems at all. The "experimental" mention is a disclaimer to cover Chainfire in case you have problems - a very sensible warning in my opinion, but in this case you can probably ignore it.
And I agree with blueyes - Nexus Root Toolkit is pretty much idiot-proof as long as you read the instructions and in particular choose the correct ROM.
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I rooted my N6 on Android 6.0 with 2.52 weeks ago and it's absolutely fine - I've seen no problems at all. The "experimental" mention is a disclaimer to cover Chainfire in case you have problems - a very sensible warning in my opinion, but in this case you can probably ignore it.
And I agree with blueyes - Nexus Root Toolkit is pretty much idiot-proof as long as you read the instructions and in particular choose the correct ROM.
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The problem with using toolkits when they are "idiot-proof" is that if you go into the process as an idiot, you leave the process still an idiot, so if something goes wrong with the device at a later date, the user has not got the skills to fix it, which becomes a problem on these forums as rather than telling someone how to fix it, we also have to teach the skills that should already have been learned.
Toolkits are great if you know what they're doing but if you dont, use fastboot the first time to get an understanding of it and also to ensure you know it is working on your computer correctly. It's easier to troubleshoot PC configurations when the device is fully working rather than waiting until it is "broken"
"you leave the process still an idiot"
I'll take that in the spirit I think you meant it...
Sure, point taken, but the problem with telling someone to start learning to use tools they don't understand is that this forum ends up with a flood of "I've bricked my device" posts. I agree that the manual way is useful for resolving problems, and I don't use NRT for everything - I'd say maybe 50% of the time for installing a brand new factory ROM, and the rest of the time using ADB/Fastboot for stuff I (think I) understand.
I just think that if someone has taken the time and trouble to give me the commands typed perfectly in the correct order and proven to work, why would I risk typing them in maybe in the wrong order or accidentally installing an image into the wrong partition? My own stupid fault, sure, but why take the long way round instead of the simple straight proven path?
Just sayin'...
dahawthorne said:
"you leave the process still an idiot"
I'll take that in the spirit I think you meant it...
Sure, point taken, but the problem with telling someone to start learning to use tools they don't understand is that this forum ends up with a flood of "I've bricked my device" posts. I agree that the manual way is useful for resolving problems, and I don't use NRT for everything - I'd say maybe 50% of the time for installing a brand new factory ROM, and the rest of the time using ADB/Fastboot for stuff I (think I) understand.
I just think that if someone has taken the time and trouble to give me the commands typed perfectly in the correct order and proven to work, why would I risk typing them in maybe in the wrong order or accidentally installing an image into the wrong partition? My own stupid fault, sure, but why take the long way round instead of the simple straight proven path?
Just sayin'...
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It's not really the long way round. Once everything is installed, its as quick if not quicker. And as I said, you need all this installed for ongoing maintenance anyway so may as well do this whilst your device is working.
You can't brick your device by flashing to the wrong partition so there are no floods of posts from people doing things manually at all. .if you flash to the wrong partition,.just flash to the right partition. It's not rocket science either. If you flash a radio, flash it to the radio partition. If you flash system, flash it to the system partition. ...and if you type something wrong, it won't do anything at all.
Fastboot is well documented (by me and others) in the general forum. People should feel free to nude toolkits once they have learned it, but noobs should definitely learn it and use it the first time for the reasons I have already mentioned.
To root is so simple.
1. In fastboot, use
"fastboot oem unlock"
2. In fastboot, flash a custom twrp recovery image
"fastboot flash recovery twrp.img "
3. If marshamallow, flash a custom boot.img to allow it to be rooted
"fastboot flash boot boot.img"
4. Copy SuperSU to sdcard
5. Flash SuperSU zip from recovery
Once these steps have been carried out, you've used fastboot, know how it works and also have proof your computer has working fastboot. That ticks essential boxes.that every root user needs to have ticked. Once they're ticked, use toolkits to your hearts desire.
The worst thing about noobs using toolkits is when we need them to use fastboot when helping with their issues, they don't know what it is and we have to teach them that. We also need to troubleshoot setting it up which can be extremely hard if their device is bricked or in a state of needing repair. 10 minutes learning now can help prevent hours of wasting our time later. Surely it's only being courteous to learn these things ?
Where can I find a custom boot image ? I'm asking because I'm rooted but every time I try to go into recovery it ask me for a password
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Where can I find a custom boot image ? I'm asking because I'm rooted but every time I try to go into recovery it ask me for a password
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If you're encrypted, recovery will always ask you for a password. If you've set a password in android, you use that..if you have not set a password in android, you use the default twrp password.
I am an Android Noob! My first Android devices were the Nexus Player and the Nexus 6. (I came from iPhones and Apple TV) It did not take me long at all to learn how to use fastboot and adb. I manually flashed my Nexus 6 and Nexus Player to 6.0 before the OTAs were rolling out no problem. I have root on both of my devices.
My point is, if I can learn how to do this in a matter of a day (I have not had my Nexus 6 a full month yet) You can learn how to do it as well. There are tons of guides out there on how to do all of this. Google is your friend. You will feel awesome and have a sense of accomplishment if you take the time to learn this stuff. It is easy to learn, not hard at all! I come from a pretty extensive tech background so I was a step ahead, but anyone can do / learn this stuff.
There are toolkits that can do this stuff for you pretty much. I have not downloaded or used one myself. I don't trust someone else's code with my device. That's just me though. I like to feel in control when I flash stuff.
@danarama
"Surely it's only being courteous to learn these things ?"
I know that it's all too easy to be taken wrong when writing a post, so I'll say up front that I'm serious - thanks for posting those steps. I've watched the NRT run through its steps a number of times and it clearly does a lot more than this, which is why i'm glad that it's doing the typing for me
I have used your steps when flashing various things, I've just never used them for a ROM upgrade - except once when I was trying to recover a broken-radio N5 and was installing Chroma.
One value at least of the NRT for noobs is its help in setting up your PC's drivers - that alone is a good reason to look at it.
Just for interest, what would happen if I flashed recovery into the radio partition? Or the boot partition?
Seriously, thanks for these steps - I appreciate it.
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@danarama
"Surely it's only being courteous to learn these things ?"
I know that it's all too easy to be taken wrong when writing a post, so I'll say up front that I'm serious - thanks for posting those steps. I've watched the NRT run through its steps a number of times and it clearly does a lot more than this, which is why i'm glad that it's doing the typing for me
I have used your steps when flashing various things, I've just never used them for a ROM upgrade - except once when I was trying to recover a broken-radio N5 and was installing Chroma.
One value at least of the NRT for noobs is its help in setting up your PC's drivers - that alone is a good reason to look at it.
Just for interest, what would happen if I flashed recovery into the radio partition? Or the boot partition?
Seriously, thanks for these steps - I appreciate it.
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Radio may boot but won't connect to a network.
Boot is the kernel so it won't boot without it (bootloop)
Both can be fixed by flashing the correct image to the correct partition.
The images in the factory image are appropriately labelled too, so it would be difficult to flash to the wrong partition without realizing it was wrong.. Eg
"fastboot flash radio boot.img" looks wrong when you have radio.img too.
Thanks, danarama. I suppose that's the point I was trying to make at the top - that if you're a bit of a thicko then you could flash to the wrong partition, which a predefined script won't. As long as it's recoverable, no problem, but I remember the pumping heart and breathlessness as I watched my devices on several occasions sitting with the boot animation for 10-15 minutes and thinking "What the hell do I do now?"
I know I'm hijacking this thread (sorry...) but is there anything you can think of that would definitely hard-brick my device if I'm being thick or careless? I've never managed it, and maybe as Android progresses it's becoming harder to hard-brick, but is there ever a time when I need to think "There's no way back from this one"?
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If you're encrypted, recovery will always ask you for a password. If you've set a password in android, you use that..if you have not set a password in android, you use the default twrp password.
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Thank for the heads up really appreciate that. BTW what is the default password for twrp
getmoneygreen said:
Thank for the heads up really appreciate that. BTW what is the default password for twrp
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Not sure, Im not encrypted. But its documented somewhere by twrp dev. Maybe on their site or in their thread
I just bought myself an almost mint condition Nexus 6 (build MRA58R). It's running Marshmallow and I tried rooting it today. After I researched how to go by obtaining root I tried it out, felt very confident, didn't come across any errors. But then when I was booting back up, a screen with red letters saying something about my phone being corrupted was not allowing my phone to boot. Naturally, first I panicked. Afterwards I researched, found and then executed a manual flash of system, boot, bootloader, cache and recovery images. Then, my phone was back up and running. Discouraged and defeated, here I am knowing I could've done some better things with my time than mash commands into a terminal to fix my nooby mistake for a few hours. How should I approach obtaining root on my phone if at all possible with my model?
meeniemuffin said:
.... But then when I was booting back up, a screen with red letters saying something about my phone being corrupted was not allowing my phone to boot.
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You could bring Google to court when your device is working 100% and the message says it is corrupt. Read the OP of this link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
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I just bought myself an almost mint condition Nexus 6 (build MRA58R). It's running Marshmallow and I tried rooting it today. After I researched how to go by obtaining root I tried it out, felt very confident, didn't come across any errors. But then when I was booting back up, a screen with red letters saying something about my phone being corrupted was not allowing my phone to boot. Naturally, first I panicked. Afterwards I researched, found and then executed a manual flash of system, boot, bootloader, cache and recovery images. Then, my phone was back up and running. Discouraged and defeated, here I am knowing I could've done some better things with my time than mash commands into a terminal to fix my nooby mistake for a few hours. How should I approach obtaining root on my phone if at all possible with my model?
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-enable "OEM unlocking" in developer options
-unlock bootloader
-flash TWRP using fastboot
-flash a custom kernel
-flash SuperSU 2.52
-KEEP BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED
-KEEP "OEM unlocking" ENABLED
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NLBeev said:
You could bring Google to court when your device is working 100% and the message says it is corrupt. Read the OP of this link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
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There's nothing mentioned there.
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There's nothing mentioned there.
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Hmm, here the links works. It is a link to a stock rom that is already rooted.
The rom is updated with the latest security OTA.
Full name of the OP.
[ROM]【6.0_r3】Stock MRA58R [Lite] - 【Marshmallow】【hC kernel】- 11/05/15
NLBeev said:
Hmm, here the links works. It is a link to a stock rom that is already rooted.
The rom is updated with the latest security OTA.
Full name of the OP.
[ROM]【6.0_r3】Stock MRA58R [Lite] - 【Marshmallow】【hC kernel】- 11/05/15
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It indeed works but i thought it would bring to a page about the court thing you have mentioned.
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It indeed works but i thought it would bring to a page about the court thing you have mentioned.
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No I was joking, sorry. But there is something serious behind the joke.
Here on XDA there are too many posts/questions about the 'corrupt message'.
The distance between ' customizing the phone' and 'Google' is growing.
NLBeev said:
No I was joking, sorry. But there is something serious behind the joke.
Here on XDA there are too many posts/questions about the 'corrupt message'.
The distance between ' customizing the phone' and 'Google' is growing.
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Aha! i saw you posting this before but never knew that it was a joke
I didn't even need to read all this stuff. First thing I did was get into developer mode and almost instinctual that I turned on OEM unlocking before setting about unlocking the bootloader.
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Yeah I bought my N6 recently and had a bad first time experience too. I ended up using a toolkit to root and all that, didn't need a custom rom so I kept it stock with TWRP and I'm very happy. Since then, I rooted some of the old devices I had laying around (you can check my signature), so I should be more prepared next time I need to update. My problem is I didn't really understand the commands, what did what and what exactly was required for root. Now that I have had plenty to practice with I'm pretty comfortable with commands and recoveries. Practice makes perfect I guess
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No I was joking, sorry. But there is something serious behind the joke.
Here on XDA there are too many posts/questions about the 'corrupt message'.
The distance between ' customizing the phone' and 'Google' is growing.
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Pretty much the trend. I bet by Android 7.0, rooting will be impossible.
shadowcore said:
Pretty much the trend. I bet by Android 7.0, rooting will be impossible.
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I hope not. Google's software and design will be the weak point. Google could not give us some simple options like a dark interface, reboot options and dpi settings.
So, people, to sum it all up... The road to obtaining root on this Marshmallow enabled phone is?
If bootload is locked, unlock it - This will erase everything backup your device
1. Get modified boot.img for your version, flash it
2. Flash twrp
3. Flash SuperSu 2.52
meeniemuffin said:
So, people, to sum it all up... The road to obtaining root on this Marshmallow enabled phone is?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63999613&postcount=3
!!!
Droidphilev said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63999613&postcount=3
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Sorry! Slow to learn over here. I still have a question...do I need a custom kernel and flash stock rom? Or just a custom stock ROM thats already prerooted? Both, perhaps? Would I have to flash Twrp in order to even do this?
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Sorry! Slow to learn over here. I still have a question...do I need a custom kernel and flash stock rom? Or just a custom stock ROM thats already prerooted? Both, perhaps? Would I have to flash Twrp in order to even do this?
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You have a stockrom now, right?
if you want to keep that for now then this is the easiest way. The TWRP step is there to be able to flash the custom kernel. (and of course make backups and flash other roms in the future)
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You have a stockrom now, right?
if you want to keep that for now then this is the easiest way. The TWRP step is there to be able to flash the custom kernel. (and of course make backups and flash other roms in the future)
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I had an epiphany earlier. I did everything....it all hit me at once. I finally managed to get Pure Nexus ROM working. Time for a test drive.
Thanks for the advice.
meeniemuffin said:
I had an epiphany earlier. I did everything....it all hit me at once. I finally managed to get Pure Nexus ROM working. Time for a test drive.
Thanks for the advice.
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enjoy!
but DO NOT forget to keep "OEM unlocking" enabled!
(it will save you when you ever get locked out from your google acoount because you became aflashoholic)
(originally posted in the flashfire threads, but it was suggested I post here)
My apologies if this has already been covered (I could not find an answer in searching)
I appreciate that it can be dangerous to use flashfire to flash the bootloader partition and that one should use fastboot. My question is:
If I download a FW package and the bootloader has changed, what happens if I flash to the kernel, system, cache, vendor etc... and do not flash to bootloader and radio? Will the flash fail; will the phone soft brick; will nothing happen and I can go merrily along?
The question derives from this: If the phone can become unusable with a mismatched bootload and radio to the rest of the images, it would require to unpack the package and check for a version prior to flashing other partitions (so I assume). If I go that far, would it not be easier to not use flashfire and simply manually flash the required files when updates are available?
Thanks
N6, unlocked and rooted (previously always updating latest patches and rerooting myself (using TWRP), but wishing to try flashire)
RLBL said:
(originally posted in the flashfire threads, but it was suggested I post here)
My apologies if this has already been covered (I could not find an answer in searching)
I appreciate that it can be dangerous to use flashfire to flash the bootloader partition and that one should use fastboot. My question is:
If I download a FW package and the bootloader has changed, what happens if I flash to the kernel, system, cache, vendor etc... and do not flash to bootloader and radio? Will the flash fail; will the phone soft brick; will nothing happen and I can go merrily along?
The question derives from this: If the phone can become unusable with a mismatched bootload and radio to the rest of the images, it would require to unpack the package and check for a version prior to flashing other partitions (so I assume). If I go that far, would it not be easier to not use flashfire and simply manually flash the required files when updates are available?
Thanks
N6, unlocked and rooted (previously always updating latest patches and rerooting myself (using TWRP), but wishing to try flashire)
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it is really rare that a bootloader flash is required, and a radio update is never required. if you dont flash them, then you just dont flash them, thats all.
I'd add that going to a major update you'll want to pay close attention. The bootloader probably will need updating. e.g. lollipop to MM, the bootloader had to be updated.
The radio is optional and often with trial and error, you'll find a particular one that for your hardware, in your area, you get the best signal. There is a thread with N6 flashable radios here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3066052.
Had you posted that you had an N6 in your original post, I'd have helped you, because that's what I use
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I'd add that going to a major update you'll want to pay close attention. The bootloader probably will need updating. e.g. lollipop to MM, the bootloader had to be updated.
The radio is optional and often with trial and error, you'll find a particular one that for your hardware, in your area, you get the best signal. There is a thread with N6 flashable radios.
Had you posted that you had an N6 in your original post, I'd have helped you, because that's what I use
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both mm a lollipop, i never updated my bootloader. i did update it after mm though.
ktmom said:
I'd add that going to a major update you'll want to pay close attention. The bootloader probably will need updating. e.g. lollipop to MM, the bootloader had to be updated.
The radio is optional and often with trial and error, you'll find a particular one that for your hardware, in your area, you get the best signal. There is a thread with N6 flashable radios here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3066052.
Had you posted that you had an N6 in your original post, I'd have helped you, because that's what I use
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Oh That looks interesting. My Cellular signal sucks even though I am supposedly close to some towers. I am going to try using flashfire with these (hope I don't brick myself lol)
So I assume that when N comes out officially and I need to change bootloaders, I would do so via fasboot, then afterwards I can the the updates via fashfire.
RLBL said:
Oh That looks interesting. My Cellular signal sucks even though I am supposedly close to some towers. I am going to try using flashfire with these (hope I don't brick myself lol)
So I assume that when N comes out officially and I need to change bootloaders, I would do so via fasboot, then afterwards I can the the updates via fashfire.
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all the radios, and bootloaders, are available in flashable zip for here on xda as well. to flash via twrp recovery
simms22 said:
all the radios, and bootloaders, are available in flashable zip for here on xda as well. to flash via twrp recovery
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Cool... But I only used TWRP to flash the SU binaries to root. Now that I am rooted, I figured I could simply go back to stock recovery* and use flashfire going forward.
* I figured that because I had no other use for for a custom recovery presently, I may as well stay completely stock and rooted. Furthermore, from my understanding (which can be wrong) I no longer need a custom recovery to flash/install anything, as flashfire can do it all. Of course that brings one to ask "why am I rooted if I am staying stock?". I root my device so I can simulate a power button press without cancelling smart lock operations (either through tasker shell keyevent, gravity screen, or nova prime swipe gesture). I like not having to use the buttons on my phone
Why get rid of custom recovery? Just leave it and keep a backup on hand, then when there is an issue with basically anything you can just restore your backup instead of freaking out and running here using caps and exclamation marks asking how to fix.
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Why get rid of custom recovery? Just leave it and keep a backup on hand, then when there is an issue with basically anything you can just restore your backup instead of freaking out and running here using caps and exclamation marks asking how to fix.
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1 - why use a custom recovery if I do not need to (serious question, not being confrontational - see below)
2 - I totally know how to flash to whatever I want without using any toolkits (and ofc using a custom recovery)
3 - Why would one assume that one panics? (just because I have a low post count and admittedly an Android noob - N6 1st phone - does not mean I am an idiot)
4 - Considering I am not using custom ROMs and staying stock, I would think the likelihood of things going wrong is low (could be totally wrong there lol but I have done everything myself manually since the get go (never even taken an OTA for my upgrades), and never had 1 issue as of yet. This post was a general question in nature. It was not posted because I needed something to be fixed)
If I do not need it, why have it: I am experimenting to see if I can use FF completely stock (and rooted). Please provide some rationale as to why I should keep a custom recovery so I can evaluate (you may be 100% right). The point is: from my understanding one can use FF without a custom recovery so why not try... so far, so good.
On backups: be aware (not that you should care, but you did comment)... I have nothing on my phone that requires backing up at that... I can completely wipe the phone and it only takes time to do a google restore and I am back to where I am (been there, done that. Annoying for time though lol but I have no data on the phone safe from tasker profiles which are on my google drive and easily restored).
And what happens when you flash a bootloader and something screws up? You can't fix it from the stock recovery menu, now can you. So what not have something useful on the recovery partition for that 1 and 1000 chance something goes wrong.... Just my opinion, being I've been flashing phones since the first Android device was released on T-Mobile. The g1 (still have and still flash Roms
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RLBL said:
1 - why use a custom recovery if I do not need to (serious question, not being confrontational - see below)
2 - I totally know how to flash to whatever I want without using any toolkits (and ofc using a custom recovery)
3 - Why would one assume that one panics? (just because I have a low post count and admittedly an Android noob - N6 1st phone - does not mean I am an idiot)
4 - Considering I am not using custom ROMs and staying stock, I would think the likelihood of things going wrong is low (could be totally wrong there lol but I have done everything myself manually since the get go (never even taken an OTA for my upgrades), and never had 1 issue as of yet. This post was a general question in nature. It was not posted because I needed something to be fixed)
If I do not need it, why have it: I am experimenting to see if I can use FF completely stock (and rooted). Please provide some rationale as to why I should keep a custom recovery so I can evaluate (you may be 100% right). The point is: from my understanding one can use FF without a custom recovery so why not try... so far, so good.
On backups: be aware (not that you should care, but you did comment)... I have nothing on my phone that requires backing up at that... I can completely wipe the phone and it only takes time to do a google restore and I am back to where I am (been there, done that. Annoying for time though lol but I have no data on the phone safe from tasker profiles which are on my google drive and easily restored).
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1. the only one important thing about having twrp installed.. backups and restores. before dlashing or changing anything, i akways create a backup in twrp. if something doesnt work out, you can always restore your backup, as ive done many many times. its a quicky fix it.
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And what happens when you flash a bootloader and something screws up? You can't fix it from the stock recovery menu, now can you. So what not have something useful on the recovery partition for that 1 and 1000 chance something goes wrong.... Just my opinion, being I've been flashing phones since the first Android device was released on T-Mobile. The g1 (still have and still flash Roms
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I think that was the whole point of my post was it not? What happens if you DON'T flash a bootloader while using FF (but in the case where it did change)? And like I said, in the 1/1000 chance that something does go wrong and I did not have a backup: Flash the complete package via adb? Like I said, I have nothing to backup, thus nothing to recover. Not saying I shouldn't, just saying I don't. I only used TWRP to gain root access, nothing more (no custom ROMs, kernels, optimizations, anything on my phone...not even local app data saves - I am one of those old farts who uses their phone as a PDA with phone capabilities and that is it. All "data" is cloud based for calendar info etc.)
It was a relatively simple (general) question around some experimentation I am doing to see if it would work if one was completely stock (safe from root); did not think it would turn in an philosophical argument on whether or not one should use a stock recovery (which I have been using a custom up until yesterday, but was thinking about putting it back on this evening anyways, just because)
Anyways, got my answer... thx
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1. the only one important thing about having twrp installed.. backups and restores. before dlashing or changing anything, i akways create a backup in twrp. if something doesnt work out, you can always restore your backup, as ive done many many times. its a quicky fix it.
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Thanks!... Obviously when I do venture into more with the phone I will do that. Currently it is a work and personal device so the only thing I do is flash Google stock builds instead of waiting for OTAs. Not saying I should not have a backup, but I don't. Only once after the 1st flash I re-locked the bootloader (as per instructions). What I waste of time; but it did show me that in a non-efficient disaster recovery, I can get everything back to where I was.
A restore would have been efficient, but I have found that I really have nothing to back up.. yet.
I guess a (off-topic) question I have for you is: What and Why did things not work out? In my case where I am only flashing stock loads (not waiting for OTAs), what could one anticipate going wrong that a re-flash could not recover from, but a restore could? Example a write corruption of a partition and the only thing I can do is boot into recovery as my PC cannot see the phone via adb? Can something like that happen?
Backing up system is what saves your a**
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Backing up system is what saves your a**
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cool... but... what if you are stock? Save my ass from what? Will a (re)flash of stock binaries not suffice?
Look I appreciate I am sounding argumentative, but I am curious to understand what can happen and why. I can understand the "need" to do it if customizing a device etc... but I am very curious as to why if you are stock:
example:
A stock user unlocks his bootloader so they can flash files straight from google be it OTAs or the complete package. It is not listed anywhere to have a custom recovery in their instructions which would lead one to believe it is not required if flashing said files... I assume something could go wrong of course and the most efficient way is to do a restore from backup... but I also assume one could simply re-flash and start over.
I am not devaluating the merits of a custom recovery; I was just curious if one could use (easily) flash fire without one - and one can. The purpose of the question was two-fold:
- because I was flashing stock, then reflashing twrp to get root I found the process longer than it needed to be so I thought I could use flashfire and have it do it for me.
- then I realized that flashing re-roots as well so I did not need to flash the custom recovery to obtain root. I thought "hey what if I accidentally checked "recovery" and accidentally went back to stock. No harm done as I can move on and still be rooted.
Not sure my butt needs saving to ask. You may be doing something that having backups is a good and safe idea... what if you are not? No harm in still using a custom of course, but it was just a question (I ask such questions so I know in advance why something happened and what to do so I do not come running to forums in all caps as someone else said lol)
off topic: If one has nothing to backup, what is there to restore?
RLBL said:
cool... but... what if you are stock? Save my ass from what? Will a (re)flash of stock binaries not suffice?
Look I appreciate I am sounding argumentative, but I am curious to understand what can happen and why. I can understand the "need" to do it if customizing a device etc... but I am very curious as to why if you are stock:
example:
A stock user unlocks his bootloader so they can flash files straight from google be it OTAs or the complete package. It is not listed anywhere to have a custom recovery in their instructions which would lead one to believe it is not required if flashing said files... I assume something could go wrong of course and the most efficient way is to do a restore from backup... but I also assume one could simply re-flash and start over.
I am not devaluating the merits of a custom recovery; I was just curious if one could use (easily) flash fire without one - and one can. The purpose of the question was two-fold:
- because I was flashing stock, then reflashing twrp to get root I found the process longer than it needed to be so I thought I could use flashfire and have it do it for me.
- then I realized that flashing re-roots as well so I did not need to flash the custom recovery to obtain root. I thought "hey what if I accidentally checked "recovery" and accidentally went back to stock. No harm done as I can move on and still be rooted.
Not sure my butt needs saving to ask. You may be doing something that having backups is a good and safe idea... what if you are not? No harm in still using a custom of course, but it was just a question (I ask such questions so I know in advance why something happened and what to do so I do not come running to forums in all caps as someone else said lol)
off topic: If one has nothing to backup, what is there to restore?
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its all a matter of choice, period.
flashing stock, you dont need to do anything. flashing different mods, custom roms, gapps, or supersu, you need to use twrp recovery. you can even flash twrp to be permenant or flash twrp for a one time use. if you are flashing custom roms/mods regularly, its convieniant to have twrp, if your not it doesnt matter. but the one thing twrp is great for is backing up, in case. and you dont need many back ups, just one recent backup. so you can back up, then get rid of twrp until needed again. anyways, its all a personal choice, and thats all it is. for me, flashing twrp then leaving it makes sense, since ill never ever do anything stock. for you, you have your own needs and wants.
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its all a matter of choice, period.
flashing stock, you dont need to do anything. flashing different mods, custom roms, gapps, or supersu, you need to use twrp recovery. you can even flash twrp to be permenant or flash twrp for a one time use. if you are flashing custom roms/mods regularly, its convieniant to have twrp, if your not it doesnt matter. but the one thing twrp is great for is backing up, in case. and you dont need many back ups, just one recent backup. so you can back up, then get rid of twrp until needed again. anyways, its all a personal choice, and thats all it is. for me, flashing twrp then leaving it makes sense, since ill never ever do anything stock. for you, you have your own needs and wants.
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Thank you for answering the question.
I figure when this phone (or whichever phone) is not my daily driver and no longer linked to sensitive stuff I will start venturing into the domain of custom ROMs and Kernels.
RLBL said:
Thank you for answering the question.
I figure when this phone (or whichever phone) is not my daily driver and no longer linked to sensitive stuff I will start venturing into the domain of custom ROMs and Kernels.
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custom recoveries just make things easier for you, overall, to do stuff. but kernels, that could be the bomb. but you will need to learn about how to use governors/schedulers to make any kind of headways. for example, i use a completely different governor/scheduler(ondemand/deadline) than any other nexus kernel, and i feel that my way makes my phone much better/faster than any other setup. and thats whats important to me
Update: test passed (I knew it would)
With a stock recovery, I was able to use flashfire and upgrade to the latest update and re-root.