(originally posted in the flashfire threads, but it was suggested I post here)
My apologies if this has already been covered (I could not find an answer in searching)
I appreciate that it can be dangerous to use flashfire to flash the bootloader partition and that one should use fastboot. My question is:
If I download a FW package and the bootloader has changed, what happens if I flash to the kernel, system, cache, vendor etc... and do not flash to bootloader and radio? Will the flash fail; will the phone soft brick; will nothing happen and I can go merrily along?
The question derives from this: If the phone can become unusable with a mismatched bootload and radio to the rest of the images, it would require to unpack the package and check for a version prior to flashing other partitions (so I assume). If I go that far, would it not be easier to not use flashfire and simply manually flash the required files when updates are available?
Thanks
N6, unlocked and rooted (previously always updating latest patches and rerooting myself (using TWRP), but wishing to try flashire)
RLBL said:
(originally posted in the flashfire threads, but it was suggested I post here)
My apologies if this has already been covered (I could not find an answer in searching)
I appreciate that it can be dangerous to use flashfire to flash the bootloader partition and that one should use fastboot. My question is:
If I download a FW package and the bootloader has changed, what happens if I flash to the kernel, system, cache, vendor etc... and do not flash to bootloader and radio? Will the flash fail; will the phone soft brick; will nothing happen and I can go merrily along?
The question derives from this: If the phone can become unusable with a mismatched bootload and radio to the rest of the images, it would require to unpack the package and check for a version prior to flashing other partitions (so I assume). If I go that far, would it not be easier to not use flashfire and simply manually flash the required files when updates are available?
Thanks
N6, unlocked and rooted (previously always updating latest patches and rerooting myself (using TWRP), but wishing to try flashire)
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it is really rare that a bootloader flash is required, and a radio update is never required. if you dont flash them, then you just dont flash them, thats all.
I'd add that going to a major update you'll want to pay close attention. The bootloader probably will need updating. e.g. lollipop to MM, the bootloader had to be updated.
The radio is optional and often with trial and error, you'll find a particular one that for your hardware, in your area, you get the best signal. There is a thread with N6 flashable radios here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3066052.
Had you posted that you had an N6 in your original post, I'd have helped you, because that's what I use
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I'd add that going to a major update you'll want to pay close attention. The bootloader probably will need updating. e.g. lollipop to MM, the bootloader had to be updated.
The radio is optional and often with trial and error, you'll find a particular one that for your hardware, in your area, you get the best signal. There is a thread with N6 flashable radios.
Had you posted that you had an N6 in your original post, I'd have helped you, because that's what I use
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both mm a lollipop, i never updated my bootloader. i did update it after mm though.
ktmom said:
I'd add that going to a major update you'll want to pay close attention. The bootloader probably will need updating. e.g. lollipop to MM, the bootloader had to be updated.
The radio is optional and often with trial and error, you'll find a particular one that for your hardware, in your area, you get the best signal. There is a thread with N6 flashable radios here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3066052.
Had you posted that you had an N6 in your original post, I'd have helped you, because that's what I use
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Oh That looks interesting. My Cellular signal sucks even though I am supposedly close to some towers. I am going to try using flashfire with these (hope I don't brick myself lol)
So I assume that when N comes out officially and I need to change bootloaders, I would do so via fasboot, then afterwards I can the the updates via fashfire.
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Oh That looks interesting. My Cellular signal sucks even though I am supposedly close to some towers. I am going to try using flashfire with these (hope I don't brick myself lol)
So I assume that when N comes out officially and I need to change bootloaders, I would do so via fasboot, then afterwards I can the the updates via fashfire.
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all the radios, and bootloaders, are available in flashable zip for here on xda as well. to flash via twrp recovery
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all the radios, and bootloaders, are available in flashable zip for here on xda as well. to flash via twrp recovery
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Cool... But I only used TWRP to flash the SU binaries to root. Now that I am rooted, I figured I could simply go back to stock recovery* and use flashfire going forward.
* I figured that because I had no other use for for a custom recovery presently, I may as well stay completely stock and rooted. Furthermore, from my understanding (which can be wrong) I no longer need a custom recovery to flash/install anything, as flashfire can do it all. Of course that brings one to ask "why am I rooted if I am staying stock?". I root my device so I can simulate a power button press without cancelling smart lock operations (either through tasker shell keyevent, gravity screen, or nova prime swipe gesture). I like not having to use the buttons on my phone
Why get rid of custom recovery? Just leave it and keep a backup on hand, then when there is an issue with basically anything you can just restore your backup instead of freaking out and running here using caps and exclamation marks asking how to fix.
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Why get rid of custom recovery? Just leave it and keep a backup on hand, then when there is an issue with basically anything you can just restore your backup instead of freaking out and running here using caps and exclamation marks asking how to fix.
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1 - why use a custom recovery if I do not need to (serious question, not being confrontational - see below)
2 - I totally know how to flash to whatever I want without using any toolkits (and ofc using a custom recovery)
3 - Why would one assume that one panics? (just because I have a low post count and admittedly an Android noob - N6 1st phone - does not mean I am an idiot)
4 - Considering I am not using custom ROMs and staying stock, I would think the likelihood of things going wrong is low (could be totally wrong there lol but I have done everything myself manually since the get go (never even taken an OTA for my upgrades), and never had 1 issue as of yet. This post was a general question in nature. It was not posted because I needed something to be fixed)
If I do not need it, why have it: I am experimenting to see if I can use FF completely stock (and rooted). Please provide some rationale as to why I should keep a custom recovery so I can evaluate (you may be 100% right). The point is: from my understanding one can use FF without a custom recovery so why not try... so far, so good.
On backups: be aware (not that you should care, but you did comment)... I have nothing on my phone that requires backing up at that... I can completely wipe the phone and it only takes time to do a google restore and I am back to where I am (been there, done that. Annoying for time though lol but I have no data on the phone safe from tasker profiles which are on my google drive and easily restored).
And what happens when you flash a bootloader and something screws up? You can't fix it from the stock recovery menu, now can you. So what not have something useful on the recovery partition for that 1 and 1000 chance something goes wrong.... Just my opinion, being I've been flashing phones since the first Android device was released on T-Mobile. The g1 (still have and still flash Roms
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RLBL said:
1 - why use a custom recovery if I do not need to (serious question, not being confrontational - see below)
2 - I totally know how to flash to whatever I want without using any toolkits (and ofc using a custom recovery)
3 - Why would one assume that one panics? (just because I have a low post count and admittedly an Android noob - N6 1st phone - does not mean I am an idiot)
4 - Considering I am not using custom ROMs and staying stock, I would think the likelihood of things going wrong is low (could be totally wrong there lol but I have done everything myself manually since the get go (never even taken an OTA for my upgrades), and never had 1 issue as of yet. This post was a general question in nature. It was not posted because I needed something to be fixed)
If I do not need it, why have it: I am experimenting to see if I can use FF completely stock (and rooted). Please provide some rationale as to why I should keep a custom recovery so I can evaluate (you may be 100% right). The point is: from my understanding one can use FF without a custom recovery so why not try... so far, so good.
On backups: be aware (not that you should care, but you did comment)... I have nothing on my phone that requires backing up at that... I can completely wipe the phone and it only takes time to do a google restore and I am back to where I am (been there, done that. Annoying for time though lol but I have no data on the phone safe from tasker profiles which are on my google drive and easily restored).
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1. the only one important thing about having twrp installed.. backups and restores. before dlashing or changing anything, i akways create a backup in twrp. if something doesnt work out, you can always restore your backup, as ive done many many times. its a quicky fix it.
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And what happens when you flash a bootloader and something screws up? You can't fix it from the stock recovery menu, now can you. So what not have something useful on the recovery partition for that 1 and 1000 chance something goes wrong.... Just my opinion, being I've been flashing phones since the first Android device was released on T-Mobile. The g1 (still have and still flash Roms
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I think that was the whole point of my post was it not? What happens if you DON'T flash a bootloader while using FF (but in the case where it did change)? And like I said, in the 1/1000 chance that something does go wrong and I did not have a backup: Flash the complete package via adb? Like I said, I have nothing to backup, thus nothing to recover. Not saying I shouldn't, just saying I don't. I only used TWRP to gain root access, nothing more (no custom ROMs, kernels, optimizations, anything on my phone...not even local app data saves - I am one of those old farts who uses their phone as a PDA with phone capabilities and that is it. All "data" is cloud based for calendar info etc.)
It was a relatively simple (general) question around some experimentation I am doing to see if it would work if one was completely stock (safe from root); did not think it would turn in an philosophical argument on whether or not one should use a stock recovery (which I have been using a custom up until yesterday, but was thinking about putting it back on this evening anyways, just because)
Anyways, got my answer... thx
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1. the only one important thing about having twrp installed.. backups and restores. before dlashing or changing anything, i akways create a backup in twrp. if something doesnt work out, you can always restore your backup, as ive done many many times. its a quicky fix it.
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Thanks!... Obviously when I do venture into more with the phone I will do that. Currently it is a work and personal device so the only thing I do is flash Google stock builds instead of waiting for OTAs. Not saying I should not have a backup, but I don't. Only once after the 1st flash I re-locked the bootloader (as per instructions). What I waste of time; but it did show me that in a non-efficient disaster recovery, I can get everything back to where I was.
A restore would have been efficient, but I have found that I really have nothing to back up.. yet.
I guess a (off-topic) question I have for you is: What and Why did things not work out? In my case where I am only flashing stock loads (not waiting for OTAs), what could one anticipate going wrong that a re-flash could not recover from, but a restore could? Example a write corruption of a partition and the only thing I can do is boot into recovery as my PC cannot see the phone via adb? Can something like that happen?
Backing up system is what saves your a**
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Backing up system is what saves your a**
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cool... but... what if you are stock? Save my ass from what? Will a (re)flash of stock binaries not suffice?
Look I appreciate I am sounding argumentative, but I am curious to understand what can happen and why. I can understand the "need" to do it if customizing a device etc... but I am very curious as to why if you are stock:
example:
A stock user unlocks his bootloader so they can flash files straight from google be it OTAs or the complete package. It is not listed anywhere to have a custom recovery in their instructions which would lead one to believe it is not required if flashing said files... I assume something could go wrong of course and the most efficient way is to do a restore from backup... but I also assume one could simply re-flash and start over.
I am not devaluating the merits of a custom recovery; I was just curious if one could use (easily) flash fire without one - and one can. The purpose of the question was two-fold:
- because I was flashing stock, then reflashing twrp to get root I found the process longer than it needed to be so I thought I could use flashfire and have it do it for me.
- then I realized that flashing re-roots as well so I did not need to flash the custom recovery to obtain root. I thought "hey what if I accidentally checked "recovery" and accidentally went back to stock. No harm done as I can move on and still be rooted.
Not sure my butt needs saving to ask. You may be doing something that having backups is a good and safe idea... what if you are not? No harm in still using a custom of course, but it was just a question (I ask such questions so I know in advance why something happened and what to do so I do not come running to forums in all caps as someone else said lol)
off topic: If one has nothing to backup, what is there to restore?
RLBL said:
cool... but... what if you are stock? Save my ass from what? Will a (re)flash of stock binaries not suffice?
Look I appreciate I am sounding argumentative, but I am curious to understand what can happen and why. I can understand the "need" to do it if customizing a device etc... but I am very curious as to why if you are stock:
example:
A stock user unlocks his bootloader so they can flash files straight from google be it OTAs or the complete package. It is not listed anywhere to have a custom recovery in their instructions which would lead one to believe it is not required if flashing said files... I assume something could go wrong of course and the most efficient way is to do a restore from backup... but I also assume one could simply re-flash and start over.
I am not devaluating the merits of a custom recovery; I was just curious if one could use (easily) flash fire without one - and one can. The purpose of the question was two-fold:
- because I was flashing stock, then reflashing twrp to get root I found the process longer than it needed to be so I thought I could use flashfire and have it do it for me.
- then I realized that flashing re-roots as well so I did not need to flash the custom recovery to obtain root. I thought "hey what if I accidentally checked "recovery" and accidentally went back to stock. No harm done as I can move on and still be rooted.
Not sure my butt needs saving to ask. You may be doing something that having backups is a good and safe idea... what if you are not? No harm in still using a custom of course, but it was just a question (I ask such questions so I know in advance why something happened and what to do so I do not come running to forums in all caps as someone else said lol)
off topic: If one has nothing to backup, what is there to restore?
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its all a matter of choice, period.
flashing stock, you dont need to do anything. flashing different mods, custom roms, gapps, or supersu, you need to use twrp recovery. you can even flash twrp to be permenant or flash twrp for a one time use. if you are flashing custom roms/mods regularly, its convieniant to have twrp, if your not it doesnt matter. but the one thing twrp is great for is backing up, in case. and you dont need many back ups, just one recent backup. so you can back up, then get rid of twrp until needed again. anyways, its all a personal choice, and thats all it is. for me, flashing twrp then leaving it makes sense, since ill never ever do anything stock. for you, you have your own needs and wants.
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its all a matter of choice, period.
flashing stock, you dont need to do anything. flashing different mods, custom roms, gapps, or supersu, you need to use twrp recovery. you can even flash twrp to be permenant or flash twrp for a one time use. if you are flashing custom roms/mods regularly, its convieniant to have twrp, if your not it doesnt matter. but the one thing twrp is great for is backing up, in case. and you dont need many back ups, just one recent backup. so you can back up, then get rid of twrp until needed again. anyways, its all a personal choice, and thats all it is. for me, flashing twrp then leaving it makes sense, since ill never ever do anything stock. for you, you have your own needs and wants.
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Thank you for answering the question.
I figure when this phone (or whichever phone) is not my daily driver and no longer linked to sensitive stuff I will start venturing into the domain of custom ROMs and Kernels.
RLBL said:
Thank you for answering the question.
I figure when this phone (or whichever phone) is not my daily driver and no longer linked to sensitive stuff I will start venturing into the domain of custom ROMs and Kernels.
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custom recoveries just make things easier for you, overall, to do stuff. but kernels, that could be the bomb. but you will need to learn about how to use governors/schedulers to make any kind of headways. for example, i use a completely different governor/scheduler(ondemand/deadline) than any other nexus kernel, and i feel that my way makes my phone much better/faster than any other setup. and thats whats important to me
Update: test passed (I knew it would)
With a stock recovery, I was able to use flashfire and upgrade to the latest update and re-root.
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Top man!
Any one got a working recovery and supersu/superuser that works with 4.2?
Since I've heard people losing 3G and stuff when they rooted, and I kinda don't want to have to set my stuff up again
WarningHPB said:
Top man!
Any one got a working recovery and supersu/superuser that works with 4.2?
Since I've heard people losing 3G and stuff when they rooted, and I kinda don't want to have to set my stuff up again
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You've probably heard that from idiots who don't know what they are doing.
The latest version of TWRP works perfectly fine with 4.2 (3G and not). I'm using it on my 3G without any issues.
And the previous 'su' binaries and apk's should be fine. Neither of them should cause any problems with the 3G functionality as they have nothing to do with it. I installed custom recovery and rooted mine the day I got it. Everything is perfect.
Also, absolute worst case scenario, if you do screw something up, it's easy to revert without losing all of your data.
Hmm...I don't consider myself an idiot but did nothing more sinister than root and flash CWM and lost cellular data functionality completely at random two days later (unknown baseband). Had about 6 Android devices before this going back to HTC Hero, flashed all sorts, and never seen anything like it. Eventually had to flash factory image to get it back. Not especially helpful as inexplicable and not reproduced but worth saying nonetheless.
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Hmm...I don't consider myself an idiot but did nothing more sinister than root and flash CWM and lost cellular data functionality completely at random two days later (unknown baseband). Had about 6 Android devices before this going back to HTC Hero, flashed all sorts, and never seen anything like it. Eventually had to flash factory image to get it back. Not especially helpful as inexplicable and not reproduced but worth saying nonetheless.
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FYI, there seems to be a sporadic bug in JB on my GNex where on certain reboots it says Unknown Baseband and IMEI in the About menu, and then on the next reboot it's fine. I am wondering if that same bug is cropping up on the N7, and it's just coincidentally happening on some people's devices after rooting, but it goes away later. On my GNex this issue is particularly noticeable if I gave the phone a full reboot from inside software (e.g. using the app Easy Reboot). Whereas a power off / power on does not as frequently run into this issue.
I'm looking forward to getting mine Ordered today and it shipped today! I'm going to give my 16gb (bought in Aug for $249 so no price mod for me ) to either my GF or my daughter. lol
Sorry for the OT post.. I'm just excited. It will be nice to not have to tether my N7 to my phone. I just switched to the shared data plan on AT&T so it will only cost me $10 to add the N7 to my plan
Just fired up my 3g and will root it tomorrow, is there anything really different in rooting this thing vs the 16gb, anything I should watch out for?
kitsunisan said:
Just fired up my 3g and will root it tomorrow, is there anything really different in rooting this thing vs the 16gb, anything I should watch out for?
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No, they are identical from a rooting perspective. However, they do run slightly different versions of the image, so if you wind up flashing stock, use the right one.
so first my success, i have managed to get root and a TWRP recovery.
now my question in menus im seeing horizontal lines that move with the landscape. so as the phone rotates the screen, the lines also rotate. maybe its just the background design but it seems really awkward to me that they would intend from these lighter brighter lines to be there
if someone would do me a HUGE favor and get me a stock JVP15S recovery? i flashed over mine with CWM before i could back it up and now i have a 34mg OTA update i cant take because of the custom recovery image
death 90 said:
if someone would do me a HUGE favor and get me a stock JVP15S recovery? i flashed over mine with CWM before i could back it up and now i have a 34mg OTA update i cant take because of the custom recovery image
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I'm not sure that you will find someone who can give you this file, cause it contains all personal data and apps.
death 90 said:
if someone would do me a HUGE favor and get me a stock JVP15S recovery? i flashed over mine with CWM before i could back it up and now i have a 34mg OTA update i cant take because of the custom recovery image
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I don't have my N7 yet, but on most Androids the stock recovery images do not vary much or at all between minor upgrades, so any stock recovery should be fine. Try the recovery.img inside the JOP40C image straight from Google. https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasigjop40c
Worst case if the update still won't take, flash both system and boot from the stock image too (this will unroot you but so would the OTA, and you can fix that later), and then you'll be stock enough for OTAs to work the next time it prompts.
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I'm not sure that you will find someone who can give you this file, cause it contains all personal data and apps.
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The recovery partition does not contain any personal data or apps. Everything personal is in /data.
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I'm not sure that you will find someone who can give you this file, cause it contains all personal data and apps.
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im pretty sure the "recovery" partition doesn't contain any of those things. i don't want a stock rom, i need stock a recovery. twrp allows you to back up certain partitions such as boot, cache, and recovery
cmstlist said:
I don't have my N7 yet, but on most Androids the stock recovery images do not vary much or at all between minor upgrades, so any stock recovery should be fine. Try the recovery.img inside the JOP40C image straight from Google. https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasigjop40c
Worst case if the update still won't take, flash both system and boot from the stock image too (this will unroot you but so would the OTA, and you can fix that later), and then you'll be stock enough for OTAs to work the next time it prompts.
The recovery partition does not contain any personal data or apps. Everything personal is in /data.
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i just downloaded that ill try flashing it now i downloaded the "Google Nexus 7 Toolkit" and while it didn't work for me, it did provide a JRo03d stock recovery which i flashed with fastboot and that recovery did not work. when you nexus 7 arrives i believe it would be possible to recover the stock recovery using "fastboot boot twrp-recovery", ALTHOUGH im not sure when you would execute the "backup recovery" if it would read the phones actual partition or the image you uploaded and booted on
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The recovery partition does not contain any personal data or apps. Everything personal is in /data.
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Sorry for my quick answer, I haven't seen the "recovery.img". that's file system.zip or tar which contains apps and data for restore
And if you want the Factory image, go to the thread : [Index] All for NEXUS 7 - "nakasig" - (GSM/HSPA+) , it is on, ready for download
ya i grabbed it thanks. what i don't understand is what the 34mg update is for? any ideas? i uploaded two shots, one settings page showing the build mine shipped with and the other is just the update screen i got showing size. Im about to flash the stock ROM from google now. we'll see how goes
the 34mg update was "signed-nakasig-JOP40C-from-JVP15S". i was able to flash the recovery from the stock ROM JOP40C and use that to patch through android and avoid flashing usuing TWRP
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im pretty sure the "recovery" partition doesn't contain any of those things. i don't want a stock rom, i need stock a recovery. twrp allows you to back up certain partitions such as boot, cache, and recovery
i just downloaded that ill try flashing it now i downloaded the "Google Nexus 7 Toolkit" and while it didn't work for me, it did provide a JRo03d stock recovery which i flashed with fastboot and that recovery did not work. when you nexus 7 arrives i believe it would be possible to recover the stock recovery using "fastboot boot twrp-recovery", ALTHOUGH im not sure when you would execute the "backup recovery" if it would read the phones actual partition or the image you uploaded and booted on
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Honestly don't try toolkits. Just don't, because you don't know what commands or files they are really flashing, and especially because they were written for the wi-fi version. The stock recovery from the wi-fi version is not guaranteed to be compatible with the 3G version.
philos64 said:
Sorry for my quick answer, I haven't seen the "recovery.img". that's file system.zip or tar which contains apps and data for restore
And if you want the Factory image, go to the thread : [Index] All for NEXUS 7 - "nakasig" - (GSM/HSPA+) , it is on, ready for download
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System.img is also devoid of personal information because to the standard end user it is write-protected. All the personal stuff is in the data partition.
death 90 said:
the 34mg update was "signed-nakasig-JOP40C-from-JVP15S". i was able to flash the recovery from the stock ROM JOP40C and use that to patch through android and avoid flashing usuing TWRP
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Glad it worked out for you. I had a feeling it was just going to give you JOP40C anyway.
So, I have been trying to root my 3G tablet (JOP40C), but have no luck. I installed TWRP and unlocked just fine using the Google Nexus 7 ToolKit 3.2. When I use the toolkit to root it seems like it is doing everything fine, reboots, and I do not see any errors during the process. However, when I access Titanium backup, or Root Checker it cannot gain root access. I have tried all the options in the toolkit and nothing is working. Can anyone give me some pointers? Thanks!
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So, I have been trying to root my 3G tablet (JOP40C), but have no luck. I installed TWRP and unlocked just fine using the Google Nexus 7 ToolKit 3.2. When I use the toolkit to root it seems like it is doing everything fine, reboots, and I do not see any errors during the process. However, when I access Titanium backup, or Root Checker it cannot gain root access. I have tried all the options in the toolkit and nothing is working. Can anyone give me some pointers? Thanks!
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Yes - Don't use a toolkit!
Since you already have a custom recovery, put the attached file on your sdcard and install it using TWRP. Then you should be good to go.
i'm about to root my moto x dev.
i want to keep a backup of the original firmware in case i want to go back.
does it make any difference that it is encrypted? i'm guessing no...
also, any good dumb proof steps? the main info thread only mentions restoring stock by downloading a firmware not using a backed up one.
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i'm about to root my moto x dev.
i want to keep a backup of the original firmware in case i want to go back.
does it make any difference that it is encrypted? i'm guessing no...
also, any good dumb proof steps? the main info thread only mentions restoring stock by downloading a firmware not using a backed up one.
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Rooting how? What version of android are you on? These are very important considerations to be able to make a recommendation.
Assuming you intend to unlock your bootloader, you can make a backup with TWRP Custom Recovery BEFORE you root.
If you are using the PIE exploit (only current root method for 4.4.2+), you cannot flash custom recovery. If this is the case, your only option to return to stock will be to flash the official SBF file for your carrier as listed in the "Return to Stock" thread. Not really important since the changes are lost upon reboot anyways.
Regardless, we need more details.
EDIT: Just saw you are using DEV edition.
Very easy!
FIRST: When you unlock your bootloader, it ERASES EVERYTHING. Save anything important first. You cannot make a backup until after you flash twrp, which you can only do AFTER you unlock the BL.
Additionally, according to this thread, it is impossible to backup an encrypted device. So after unlock, you are advised to not choose to encrypt, otherwise no backup can be made: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/twrp-device-encryption-t2711700
Once Unlocked, flash TWRP custom recovery with mfastboot:
mfastboot flash recovery twrpfilename.img
link to download twrp here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/recovery-twrp-official-support-moto-x-t2779637
then use fastboot to reboot into bootloader:
fastboot reboot-bootloader
now VOL DOWN to "recovery" and VOL UP to open it.
There is a BIG backup button. Use it.
Afterwards, click exit. When you do, it will tell you that you are not rooted and ask if you want to flash SuperSU Installer.
Say yes! Once rebooted, run SuperSU installer and it will root & install SuperSU for you. It will give you 2 options: Choose Play Store Option.
Good Luck
@gcbxda
Keep in mind, since unlocking the bootloader also does a factory reset and puts you back to "fresh out box" the backup you do once you flash TWRP on your phone, will be no different than "Stock Rom" (except TWRP recovery). So why not use the factory firmware to flash the phone back instead of restoring such a backup?
Oh, and keep in mind, if you do backup while in TWRP, you'll want to copy that back up file from the phone to the PC for storage. Future Factory Resets and such will likely wipe the X's internal /SDcard so the backup file would be lost.
Now if your intent is to unlock the bootloader, setup your phone the way you like it before rooting, back up, and then root.... I can see the value in that.
You can also use 'adb pull /sdcard c:\' to backup any files you have
Thanks everyone!
Backing up my stuff is good, but my main concern is going back to stock if I need (what if they release a kick ass moto watch and i need the OTA stock upgrade to use it?
Also, what if I do a backup of the partitions with ADB? ...man sometimes the android community pisses me off. everything must be packaged in a app or some GUI that hides all the information. ...just wasted 2 days reading xposed source to learn that all i had to do, instead of even installing xposed, was to edit a single sql value from 1 to 0... i'm all for the nice guis, but don't hide the actual steps like it is some black magic.
When i started this thread i was thinking of a backup more on the lines of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450045
anyway, if adb pull is not an option, my plan of action:
1. backup everything i want on the fake sdcard
2. copy the files out (either adb pull or rootbrowser to move sd files to a external pendrive on the USB OTG)
3. factory reset and/or root bootloader
4. install TWRP (this will be new, always liked classic no-touch CWM on my nexus)
5. backup stock roms
6. root/flash/etc
anyone can expand on item 5 with personal experiences? ideally if you ever did a successful back-to-stock restore
Stock
gcbxda said:
Thanks everyone!
Backing up my stuff is good, but my main concern is going back to stock if I need (what if they release a kick ass moto watch and i need the OTA stock upgrade to use it?
Also, what if I do a backup of the partitions with ADB? ...man sometimes the android community pisses me off. everything must be packaged in a app or some GUI that hides all the information. ...just wasted 2 days reading xposed source to learn that all i had to do, instead of even installing xposed, was to edit a single sql value from 1 to 0... i'm all for the nice guis, but don't hide the actual steps like it is some black magic.
When i started this thread i was thinking of a backup more on the lines of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450045
anyway, if adb pull is not an option, my plan of action:
1. backup everything i want on the fake sdcard
2. copy the files out (either adb pull or rootbrowser to move sd files to a external pendrive on the USB OTG)
3. factory reset and/or root bootloader
4. install TWRP (this will be new, always liked classic no-touch CWM on my nexus)
5. backup stock roms
6. root/flash/etc
anyone can expand on item 5 with personal experiences? ideally if you ever did a successful back-to-stock restore
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Hello,
You can find all the stock roms here - - > http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
MikeNaples said:
Hello,
You can find all the stock roms here - - > http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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thanks. i also saw that motorola offer it themselves.. is this their own repository?
but regardless, it is always nice to already have your own handy
gcbxda said:
thanks. i also saw that motorola offer it themselves.. is this their own repository?
but regardless, it is always nice to already have your own handy
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Moto officially offers recovery images (full stock rom) for the GSM Dev/GSM Unlocked XT1053 and Verizon XT1060 by request on their web site here -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images They are the most currently released rom only. You wont find older versions there.
SBF.Droid-Developers.org is neither owned, operated nor sponsored by Moto. They keep every version full stock roms (SBF files) they find. I'm not going to speculate how they come across them, but they have many SBF files that Moto hasn't officially released to the public too. i.e. Sprint, ATT, and other carriers.
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gcbxda said:
Thanks everyone!
Backing up my stuff is good, but my main concern is going back to stock if I need (what if they release a kick ass moto watch and i need the OTA stock upgrade to use it?
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There are ways to get back to stock to be able to take an OTA -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-ReturnToStock.html
gcbxda said:
Also, what if I do a backup of the partitions with ADB? ...
When i started this thread i was thinking of a backup more on the lines of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450045
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You can certainly back up that way. But I haven't tried backing up that way and restoring, so I don't know.
gcbxda said:
anyway, if adb pull is not an option, my plan of action:
1. backup everything i want on the fake sdcard
2. copy the files out (either adb pull or rootbrowser to move sd files to a external pendrive on the USB OTG)
3. factory reset and/or root bootloader
4. install TWRP (this will be new, always liked classic no-touch CWM on my nexus)
5. backup stock roms
6. root/flash/etc
anyone can expand on item 5 with personal experiences? ideally if you ever did a successful back-to-stock restore
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With my HTC Incredible and HTC Thunderbolt and Moto Droid, I did backups in CWM, and restores. It was mainly for when a new upgrade came out. I would backup my current device setup, apps, etc. Apply the update, and if I didn't like the update or had problems, I could revert to my pre-update backup, rather than flash a stock rom and have to set it up all over again, install all my apps, etc. But the HTC devices had S-OFF, so downgrading wasn't an issue.
With my Droid Bionic, the bootloader wasn't unlocked, so it wasn't an option. And there were issues with GPT.Bin and other items preventing downgrading roms, even when flashing official full SBF files.
I haven't really done this with my VZW Dev X, mostly due to the fact that while the bootloader is unlocked, its not unlocked as much as a Nexus device, or an HTC with S-Off, where you can downgrade and flash any parts no matter what. Security issues, things like GPT.BIN, MotoBoot, etc can still get in the way when trying to downgrade. So I never felt it worth the risk. Not to mention the limited space on the X, and time/effort to make the back up and move the file to the PC, and then getting it back on the phone should I ever need to restore it since there is no real SD card.
If your intent of backing up stock roms is so you can revert to stock, having the Moto SBF files available elevates most users concerns. When flashing the same version, there are ways to do it without losing your Apps/Data (like in the case of running 4.4.2 rooted and modded, but wanting to get back to stock to take the 4.4.3 OTA).
If you want to do a backup/restore inside TWRP, you can. I have read many posts from users who were successful. I just advise that you keep track of the version you back up, and only restore if the same Android version is still on your phone (i.e. only restore a 4.4.2 back up if 4.4.2 is on your phone, only restore a 4.4 back up if 4.4 is still on your phone, etc)
wait, what are the limitations i will have with a unlocked Dev device?
with my nexus and touchpad i often tried 4.3 roms and went back to 4 or 2.3 even...
i tried searching the terms you mentioned but it spawn all sort of threads with OP having some flashing problem and then pages of comments starting with "i think..."
I'm extremely confused now
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gcbxda said:
wait, what are the limitations i will have with a unlocked Dev device?
with my nexus and touchpad i often tried 4.3 roms and went back to 4 or 2.3 even...
i tried searching the terms you mentioned but it spawn all sort of threads with OP having some flashing problem and then pages of comments starting with "i think..."
I'm extremely confused now
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Free mobile app
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Unlocked or Locked Moto X... you have to be concerned when flashing backwards. The Security features on the X prevent downgrading certain components. Attempting to do so will brick or set you up to brick in the future.
Please see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Downgrade.htm
Short version... once you have 4.4.2 on your phone, do NOT attempt to downgrade.
KidJoe said:
Moto officially offers recovery images (full stock rom) for the GSM Dev/GSM Unlocked XT1053 and Verizon XT1060 by request on their web site here -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images They are the most currently released rom only. You wont find older versions there.
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Lol. looking back at that thread i whish i had went ahead and did all the backups on all OTA updates before each twrp/root and did not trust motorola to have my back.
I'm a moron. Bumping this as a lesson to others
Hi, I am sure this is answered somewhere here, but there is so much cumulative information and half-answers to go through.
First the short version then some additional info.
Short;
How can I do a complete backup of a new TF701 so that I could restore it to the state it arrived in before I would unlock the bootloader, root, and install a recovery?
Info;
Although I am not an expert, I have rooted/put clockwork recovery on a few different phones and tablets. I am familiar with adb and know there are techniques to use that to do a backup.
A bit more info;
I have another TF701 that is rooted and works reasonably well, but I did something at some point that now it randomly reboots, as well as it will not install the update to go from JB to KK (I get a "not enough space" error that I assume is really a misleading error based on having encrypted the device).
On the new TF701, after turning it on, all I have done is apply the various system updates. I would like to capture the device in this state so that in the future I can restore to it. IE, that I would both be able to restore to this clean KK as well as stock recovery, and anything else (if there is) software-wise that might cause the device to misbehave. Having a re-locked bootloader isn't necessarily a requirement, as I'm not sure how hard that is, but if possible I would like the state captured to be with the device as it currently is with the locked bootloader.
If possible, I don't want to root, install a recovery, and only then be able to do a backup and have to rely on someone's post of a "Stock recovery" or image.
My main concern is not around returning the device and getting support or things like that; it is being able to return the device to a known, pristine state, since most backup methods don't seem to backup everything; they either only backup apks, or only backup the system rom, or only the "sdcard", etc.
SocketTumi said:
Hi, I am sure this is answered somewhere here, but there is so much cumulative information and half-answers to go through.
First the short version then some additional info.
Short;
How can I do a complete backup of a new TF701 so that I could restore it to the state it arrived in before I would unlock the bootloader, root, and install a recovery?
Info;
Although I am not an expert, I have rooted/put clockwork recovery on a few different phones and tablets. I am familiar with adb and know there are techniques to use that to do a backup.
A bit more info;
I have another TF701 that is rooted and works reasonably well, but I did something at some point that now it randomly reboots, as well as it will not install the update to go from JB to KK (I get a "not enough space" error that I assume is really a misleading error based on having encrypted the device).
On the new TF701, after turning it on, all I have done is apply the various system updates. I would like to capture the device in this state so that in the future I can restore to it. IE, that I would both be able to restore to this clean KK as well as stock recovery, and anything else (if there is) software-wise that might cause the device to misbehave. Having a re-locked bootloader isn't necessarily a requirement, as I'm not sure how hard that is, but if possible I would like the state captured to be with the device as it currently is with the locked bootloader.
If possible, I don't want to root, install a recovery, and only then be able to do a backup and have to rely on someone's post of a "Stock recovery" or image.
My main concern is not around returning the device and getting support or things like that; it is being able to return the device to a known, pristine state, since most backup methods don't seem to backup everything; they either only backup apks, or only backup the system rom, or only the "sdcard", etc.
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The short answer is: You can't.
You can't do anything in terms of backing up anything system related with a locked bootloader
You cannot relock the bootloader
You cannot make a nandroid without a custom recovery installed.
What's wrong with the stock recovery image and the stock rom you can find on Droidbasement????
They are just that: Pure stock. If you flash those you're tablet is back to factory specs except for the BL unlock.
Try formatting /data on your old tablet, then reflash the rom. Most likely your problems are related to the encryption....
berndblb said:
You can't do anything in terms of backing up anything system related with a locked bootloader.
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Well, I said I understand I might need to unlock the bootloader.
I don't understand why, for example;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
after an adb restore;
"You're back to normal, short of possibly some widgets on the home screen. [...] I did have an issue with not all files being restored to the Internal Storage; in particular, the Gallery still displayed all the folders and files that it had cached (which it expected to be there) as only gray boxes, and would not display the images, nor would it rescan the media. [...] this will not back up SMS messages"
Why??? Is this a bug in adb? something about not being able to lock the file system? Those questions are rhetorical, but I don't understand why everything with Android seems to be "it works, ... except ..."
berndblb said:
What's wrong with the stock recovery image and the stock rom you can find on Droidbasement????.
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Probably nothing, but what is it's provenance? It was not posted by Asus, right? How do I know it was not posted by some hacker who has added three lines of code that captures every "keystroke" I make? Most of the posted tutorials just say "go here ..,. download this ..., type this ... and there is no explanation of what is going on or why I should trust that download. If I can't get a purely stock rom, how did the person who posted that one?
SocketTumi said:
Well, I said I understand I might need to unlock the bootloader.
I don't understand why, for example;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
after an adb restore;
"You're back to normal, short of possibly some widgets on the home screen. [...] I did have an issue with not all files being restored to the Internal Storage; in particular, the Gallery still displayed all the folders and files that it had cached (which it expected to be there) as only gray boxes, and would not display the images, nor would it rescan the media. [...] this will not back up SMS messages"
Why??? Is this a bug in adb? something about not being able to lock the file system? Those questions are rhetorical, but I don't understand why everything with Android seems to be "it works, ... except ..."
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Why should something titled as experimental developed for a Samsung Nexus on ICS from 2011 not work on your current tablet?
I don't even know where to begin.......
And anyway, that post is about backing up apps and data. Doesn't backup the rom....
Probably nothing, but what is it's provenance? It was not posted by Asus, right? How do I know it was not posted by some hacker who has added three lines of code that captures every "keystroke" I make? Most of the posted tutorials just say "go here ..,. download this ..., type this ... and there is no explanation of what is going on or why I should trust that download. If I can't get a purely stock rom, how did the person who posted that one?
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Yes, you should only download from reputable sources. How do you find out if they are reputable? Google is your friend.
How could they do it? Because they know a whole lot more than you do.... or I for that matter.
But it's totally up to you to benefit or not from a boatload of work done for free in the spirit of sharing.
berndblb said:
Try formatting /data on your old tablet, then reflash the rom. Most likely your problems are related to the encryption....
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Thank you. I was trying to avoid starting over on that tablet, but that worked.
I recently received my nexus 6 a couple days ago and I LOVE it. The problem I am having at the moment is that I can't seem to get it to go decrypt. I downloaded the tool kit and my devices build isn't present. As a result, the tool kit it won't allow me to run the decrypt option on the fastboot window.
It's anyone running into this. My build is a LNX***.
First, what toolkit are you talking about?
Second, to decrypt the N6 you need to flash a modified boot image and then wipe your phone.
Thirdly, what's build LNX***?
Didgeridoohan said:
First, what toolkit are you talking about?
Second, to decrypt the N6 you need to flash a modified boot image and then wipe your phone.
Thirdly, what's build LNX***?
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I'm using the nexus root toolkit . I have the flash on my computer and LNX07M is the build I have on the device. Maybe I should install a custom ROM first?
Nexus 6....man I missed being rooted.
KappaAce2010 said:
I'm using the nexus root toolkit . I have the flash on my computer and LNX07M is the build I have on the device. Maybe I should install a custom ROM first?
Nexus 6....man I missed being rooted.
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You just need a custom kernel and a wipe.
another prime example of why you shouldn't use toolkits, if you don't understand what they are doing you shouldn't be using them.
To decrypt all you need to do is:
Backup your internal storage to a PC
Either use custom recovery to wipe everything including internal storage, install your rom and install a kernel that doesn't force
or
factory reset your phone, but before it boots up go back into recovery and flash a custom kernel that doesn't enforce
Circaflex said:
another prime example of why you shouldn't use toolkits, if you don't understand what they are doing you shouldn't be using them.
To decrypt all you need to do is:
Backup your internal storage to a PC
Either use custom recovery to wipe everything including internal storage, install your rom and install a kernel that doesn't force
or
factory reset your phone, but before it boots up go back into recovery and flash a custom kernel that doesn't enforce
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Well if you to come off as a jerk, you have accomplished your goal. All you had to do was state what was needed and none of bs personal ideals you have. It's a Q & A section, so you should expect questions like this to arise.
Thank you for the input though.
Nexus 6....man I missed being rooted.
KappaAce2010 said:
Well if you to come off as a jerk, you have accomplished your goal. All you had to do was state what was needed and none of bs personal ideals you have. It's a Q & A section, so you should expect questions like this to arise.
Thank you for the input though.
Nexus 6....man I missed being rooted.
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Although you're right, it is a personal ideal of many of us, I don't think he intended to come off as a jerk. But his point is that toolkits often remove the need for knowledge, which can become a problem for some users.
The good thing about nexus devices is that everything is pretty easy to do, so if you get stuck - continue to ask.
+1 to what rootSU said. And you should probably upgrade. That build is ancient and doesn't even have an official factory image (the reason it's not available in NRT).
Didgeridoohan said:
+1 to what rootSU said. And you should probably upgrade. That build is ancient and doesn't even have an official factory image (the reason it's not available in NRT).
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I already plan on doing this anyway. Just time is conflicting with me at the moment.
rootSU said:
Although you're right, it is a personal ideal of many of us, I don't think he intended to come off as a jerk. But his point is that toolkits often remove the need for knowledge, which can become a problem for some users.
The good thing about nexus devices is that everything is pretty easy to do, so if you get stuck - continue to ask.
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Well it happened, it's not going anywhere. Either way thanks guys for the advice. I should figure out everything tonight.
Nexus 6....man I missed being rooted.
Everything is a go. Fully decrypted and loving it. Thanks again.
Hi guys, it's been awhile.
As stated in the headline, I've been around awhile, not new to rooting, unlocking, flashing, but it's been 5+yrs since I've touched anything and I'm coming back fresh on a Pixel device (Panther), so I'm now completely oblivious, nothing is the same lol.
I've been trying to wrap my head around what's changed and I'm still in confusion, hell, I still don't understand how to navigate XDA properly with this new "look", what happened to the option to revert to the old XDA layout!?
To my question, would anyone be able to write me up, or point me to some helpful guides that could walk me through what's changed from Nexus to Pixel, recovery to these new A/B partitions, how to unlock, root, safely and effectively (god I hate that sentence lol) pass Safety Check for Google Pay ECT....I need to be taught like I'm a fool (but I'm not so much, maybe slightly).
IDK if I want to go to a custom ROM or kernel just yet, but I'd like to know I can, and can come back to stock(unlocked and rooted, once there).
Seems gone are the days of TWRP, Philz and custom recoveries....hell....how do you even go about making a full backup (assuming through adb to my PC now) and getting it back onto the phone
Thanks in advance for an old guy who's in new territory.
dirtyjersey856 said:
Hi guys, it's been awhile.
As stated in the headline, I've been around awhile, not new to rooting, unlocking, flashing, but it's been 5+yrs since I've touched anything and I'm coming back fresh on a Pixel device (Panther), so I'm now completely oblivious, nothing is the same lol.
I've been trying to wrap my head around what's changed and I'm still in confusion, hell, I still don't understand how to navigate XDA properly with this new "look", what happened to the option to revert to the old XDA layout!?
To my question, would anyone be able to write me up, or point me to some helpful guides that could walk me through what's changed from Nexus to Pixel, recovery to these new A/B partitions, how to unlock, root, safely and effectively (god I hate that sentence lol) pass Safety Check for Google Pay ECT....I need to be taught like I'm a fool (but I'm not so much, maybe slightly).
IDK if I want to go to a custom ROM or kernel just yet, but I'd like to know I can, and can come back to stock(unlocked and rooted, once there).
Seems gone are the days of TWRP, Philz and custom recoveries....hell....how do you even go about making a full backup (assuming through adb to my PC now) and getting it back onto the phone
Thanks in advance for an old guy who's in new territory.
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Here's a Pixel 7 Pro guide. The principles remain the same.
Rooting is a little different than old school nexus twrp days. You can't just flash a zip for root. On the p7 you have to extract the init_boot.img from the factory image, patch it using magisk, and fastboot flash it. (There may be other solutions, but this works for sure.)
Here is a guide... https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rooted-my-pixel-7.4505525/
And this is a good kernel to try if you want to go that route - once you are rooted you can flash it through a kernel manager app and it will retain root... https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-2023-03-16-unified-pixel7-pixel7pro.4543551/
Have fun!
dirtyjersey856 said:
Hi guys, it's been awhile.
As stated in the headline, I've been around awhile, not new to rooting, unlocking, flashing, but it's been 5+yrs since I've touched anything and I'm coming back fresh on a Pixel device (Panther), so I'm now completely oblivious, nothing is the same lol.
I've been trying to wrap my head around what's changed and I'm still in confusion, hell, I still don't understand how to navigate XDA properly with this new "look", what happened to the option to revert to the old XDA layout!?
To my question, would anyone be able to write me up, or point me to some helpful guides that could walk me through what's changed from Nexus to Pixel, recovery to these new A/B partitions, how to unlock, root, safely and effectively (god I hate that sentence lol) pass Safety Check for Google Pay ECT....I need to be taught like I'm a fool (but I'm not so much, maybe slightly).
IDK if I want to go to a custom ROM or kernel just yet, but I'd like to know I can, and can come back to stock(unlocked and rooted, once there).
Seems gone are the days of TWRP, Philz and custom recoveries....hell....how do you even go about making a full backup (assuming through adb to my PC now) and getting it back onto the phone
Thanks in advance for an old guy who's in new territory.
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The thread in the quoted post directly below this sentence is the premiere guide to all the major points of going off stock experience for the Pixel 7's. It will answer much, if not all, of your questions...
Lughnasadh said:
Here's a Pixel 7 Pro guide. The principles remain the same.
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O.J. Simpson said:
And this is a good kernel to try if you want to go that route - once you are rooted you can flash it through a kernel manager app and it will retain root... https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-2023-03-16-unified-pixel7-pixel7pro.4543551/
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One caveat you should know about flashing a custom kernel on the Pixel 7's is that you have to disable verity & verification -- which will require you to wipe your device, just for the first time -- but you will also have to put into the command to disable verity and verification every time you update through a Full Factory image.
You'll definitely be told this, so I'll be the first to tell you that using badabing2003's PixelFlasher is a GUI that will automate almost anything you'd wish to flash & do for your Pixel -- from unlocking, to firmware updating, to rooting, to custom kernals, to custom ROMs, to OTAs, and more. If you ever feel overwhelmed or want a simpler method with an interface, that is your best bet.
*Although he and I would suggest you going over roirraW "edor" ehT's guide to familiarize yourself with the methods and reasonings behind what he put a GUI to automate & do...
Happy hunting!